The Obama. OC.. Why don't we get rid of the useless and send all that money to NASA? NASA is the future.
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#482 - amazingfjer **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#469 - dornosen (04/11/2012) [-]
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#466 - radiserne (04/11/2012) [-]
**radiserne rolls 619**
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#463 to #462 - deadz (04/11/2012) [-]
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User avatar #515 to #459 - dmoneys (04/11/2012) [-]
And to think Obama still stands behind the war.
#456 - Someguywiththeface (04/11/2012) [-]
"They don't know Obama."
#451 - decoie (04/11/2012) [-]
I hate political ******** over the internet but..
User avatar #512 to #451 - I Am Monkey (04/11/2012) [-]
Nobody "inherited" anything.
Obama fought tooth and nail for the opportunity to fix the economy.
People act like the whole country just fell into his lap and he had to do the best he could with it.
He campaigned on the message that he and he alone could fix it.
Clearly he couldn't.
#477 to #451 - trollingswede (04/11/2012) [-]
im sorry, but.....
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User avatar #619 to #571 - trollingswede (04/14/2012) [-]
yeah i know, i dont even care bout thumbs. im just posting facts
#440 - anonymous (04/11/2012) [-]
#420 - kimmustonen (04/11/2012) [-]
**kimmustonen rolled a random image posted in comment #2 at True Story **

And then he cut this
User avatar #414 - jimthehellhog (04/11/2012) [-]
we can all argue about obama sucking all day
but at least we can agree that santorum out of the race is like nutmeg
its a good thing
#457 to #414 - phonerstonerboner (04/11/2012) [-]
Frankly, I'm mad at him for two things,   
1) SOPA/PIPA (granted he's not entirely at fault for that)   
2) Cancelling NASA. So much for colonizing far off planets!   
<-- now...HUMOR!
Frankly, I'm mad at him for two things,
1) SOPA/PIPA (granted he's not entirely at fault for that)
2) Cancelling NASA. So much for colonizing far off planets!

<-- now...HUMOR!
User avatar #464 to #457 - jimthehellhog (04/11/2012) [-]
#472 to #464 - phonerstonerboner (04/11/2012) [-]
It's a nutmeg poptart? LOLZ   
&lt;-- no relation at all!
It's a nutmeg poptart? LOLZ

<-- no relation at all!
User avatar #422 to #414 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
we aren't arguing about Obama

Some people are saying "WELL HE WAS HANDED **** BY BUSH" and getting thumbs up

others are saying he was bad and getting thumbs down...

So meh :\
User avatar #425 to #422 - jimthehellhog (04/11/2012) [-]
User avatar #431 to #425 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
Nutmeg... sounds delectable...
#410 - dmoneys (04/11/2012) [-]
MFW people like the guy because he is cool, and they don't research politics, and develop a reasonable opinion.
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User avatar #389 - imababe (04/11/2012) [-]
shes just like: da ***** that smell?
User avatar #388 - Ulmer (04/11/2012) [-]
******* idiot.
User avatar #379 - ultrarobbie (04/11/2012) [-]
Please tell me I am not the only person on here that hasn't really got a grasp on Politics.
User avatar #369 - eldorito (04/11/2012) [-]
Except for the whole thing about him increasing the NASA budget. He's just cutting funding for moon projects because we've been to the moon. Now, it's on to Mars.
#363 - eboloramma (04/11/2012) [-]
Terrible ******* president. I'd rather have Mittens.
#429 to #363 - flannelnleftpocket (04/11/2012) [-]
here, take mine and go away
User avatar #417 to #403 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
investing in bad programs which promote ideals that suck out individual freedom for the sake of creating a social welfare state is kinda communist :\

It's not investing in your country that's bad, it's the policies that he is investing in...
#572 to #417 - daviddares (04/12/2012) [-]
I disagree. I dont think its communist, not eve close. I am just saying this because I used to think exactly the same, but then I had to live in Canada and Europe for some years of my life, and I realized a few things. First of all, We American's have a tendency to over react with some stuff, particularly with anything that is remotely close to (or related to) communism ideology. Second, Canada and European countries are socialist, not communists, and this is recognized by the world wide community. Anyways, as I lived there I saw socialist investment in programs and facilities, and those were not communist movements, and at no point were they meant to be. However this programs and investments were really quite a lot more radical than what Obama has done, and truth be told, as far as socialist ideology goes, its quite weak. its more of a hybrid of Capitalist ideology fused with some communism.

Again, I am just saying what I have learned from experience.
User avatar #579 to #572 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/12/2012) [-]
I live in canada... our welfare state is idiotic and the communists are on the rise... literal communism... not even wearing the mask of socialism... the amount of pointless striking and support the the NDP agenda for taking down individual freedoms for the sake of creating... well a commune system, for lack of a better term, is bloody terrifying for me. I just don't want what happened to Canada to happen to the states... our Socialist system needs to be scaled back a tonne and judging by the current NDP momentum it doesn't look like that will happen
#580 to #579 - daviddares (04/12/2012) [-]
Is it? I dont see it that way. I have been keeping up to date with the up comings of canada. But thats an other story. The fact is that, as a country, Canada is doing excellent, and that being said, Obama's reforms are pretty mild compared to what what would see in canada and sweden.
User avatar #588 to #580 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/12/2012) [-]
Canada is doing excellent temporarily because the Conservative majority gov't is curtailing the NDP agenda. However, the amount of abuse of the welfare system, the conservative government, and the right to protest is absolutely out of control. In the past 10 years BILLIONS have been invested into improving the wait times in our health care system. No marked improvement has been made. It still takes half a year to get life saving surgeries.
#600 to #588 - daviddares (04/13/2012) [-]
The problem also lies in the Medical community. I know for a fact that they make things extremely difficult for any immigrant with a any type of medicine degree to work there, regardless if they were PHD students or just nurses. Its actually quite sad. I have a great friend, who's dad has a pHD in medicine, and he was recognized world wide, but they wouldnt let him work in surgery or any field of studies. If he wanted to work as he did in Italy, he would have to redo ALL of his medicine studies. in the end he chose to just take a teaching course and teach Medicine in a univeristy rather than spend 14 years going back to his previous standing.

Anyways, that said, I agree that he system isnt perfect, but its definitely better than others.
#444 to #417 - feelythefeel ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
Says the one standing up for Bush, the president with one of the largest records for recent military spending in countries where it isn't even necessary, big government policies during a time where the current government was (and is) incompetent and of course is a grand defender of corporate interests. And no, Obama isn't creating a social welfare state, he is one of the few politicians who actually gives two more ***** about his country than his wallet. Most of the bad decisions that "He made" are results of the Republican strong arm policies and, admittedly, the fact that Obama backs down to easily. TL:DR He may be a ***** , but at least he isn't a lunatic.
#465 to #444 - phonerstonerboner (04/11/2012) [-]
Fun fact, The debt that he has created in his four years has surpassed the collective debt of all 43 presidents combined.
#487 to #465 - feelythefeel ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
That's because of three things.
1: We are dealing with bigger and bigger numbers. You think people dealt in trillions of dollars during colonial times?
2:He is taking the helm from a recession. Not many presidencies taking place during a recession and multiple wars like this is going to be Lincoln strong.
3:He is being strong armed by Republicans. If I have said this once I've said it a hundred times, many decisions made in congress today are not made by the president, but by the congress. This is because of the fact that although Obama is at least competent, he also backs down from confrontation.
#511 to #487 - phonerstonerboner (04/11/2012) [-]
Frankly, I dislike all of the presidents, okay? I just said that because i found it amusing trivia.    
If I wanted to have a political argument, I would've been a lot more harsh. And I dont care what factors contributed to the deficit. All I know is baby animals are cute as 						****					.
Frankly, I dislike all of the presidents, okay? I just said that because i found it amusing trivia.
If I wanted to have a political argument, I would've been a lot more harsh. And I dont care what factors contributed to the deficit. All I know is baby animals are cute as **** .
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User avatar #460 to #444 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
Nah, I'm defending Bush as a person, his policies were plenty awful and he definitely had to be replaced by someone. Not Obama. Now let's ask why Bush decided to invest in huge military campaigns... oh ya... because of 9/11. If he didn't go to war after the towers fell, how do you think America would have felt? Ya in hindsight it sounds barbaric! Shock and Awe in the first week alone more than repayed the damage done to us tenfold! But you know... we asked him for that war... WE BEGGED to go into the middle east and show those terrorists that you don't mess with us. Yes... he put us into insane debt, and that was bad, but he as a person is perfectly decent and the demonization of him is entirely unnecessary.

Now for Obama. What do you think a welfare state is? Here's a hint, it's not one with rich politicians like you seem to think with those comments like "gives two more ***** about his country than his wallet". A welfare state is one in which there is a class of society that can live solely off handouts. They have no incentive to seek employment because they are given so many benefits when they are out of it. That's his policy agenda. It's not hidden, it's out in the open. It's a socialist structure that Liberals are infatuated with. Throw money at the poor and downtrodden so they can fix themselves... rather than invest in industries so that if the poor and downtrodden can pick themselves up they have a place to go..

Never said he was a lunatic, just that he makes terrible policies
#480 to #460 - feelythefeel ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
I see that you are a follower of the "Trickle-Down" Policy, that giving money the the CEOs and such will cause them to increase wages for the middle and lower class. This policy in itself is ******** , as in these situations there is a good chance that these wages will, in fact, decrease. There is a difference between a welfare state and giving aid to those that have been screwed over by the "1%". Really the difference between your argument and mine, and at the core of it, Left and Right, is that the right puts money in the upper class, Left the lower. In case you disagree, lets look at the extremes. Communism: In it's most pure form, extremely left wing and very lower class oriented. Fascism: In it's most pure form, extremely left wing and very upper class oriented. So to remain basic, theoretically that is the difference Bush and Obama. I just so happen to be a working class guy, and that's the group I believe in. What about you?

P.S. You keep saying Communist as if drawing policies from that way of thinking is a horrible thing. Why?
User avatar #489 to #480 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
Communist policies defy human nature. We drive to compete, Communism tries to kill our competitive instinct... it's just unsustainable...

I don't believe in funding CEO's, I believe in funding INDUSTRIES. There can be measures put into place to ensure funding goes to the right people. My only problem is when people are just handed money because they are unemployed they aren't EARNING the cash, they are GETTING it. You lose a lot of your drive to keep looking for employment when you know you'll get free money in the mail so long as you're unemployed. I'm Canadian and we've already sunken into a welfare system that won't be able to maintain itself more than a few decades if it continues the way it is now. My cousins are terrible representations of abusers of the system. Not a single one of them works. My uncle washes his cars all day, my aunt spins discs on occasion but hardly often enough for it to be considered a "job" more like temporary gigs to get some extra cash, and both of their kids don't work. "How do they live?" You might ask. Off money from the mail. Sure they don't live on the ritz, but they live well enough. So they are contributing nothing while taking everything. That's my fear. America doesn't have this yet, but Obama's policies really tend towards that kind of "give free money to the poor to make them happy and vote Liberal" approach... You aren't getting employment, you aren't getting a steady income... your getting a bandaid handout for your vote which doesn't seem right.

I'm not saying CEO's need more money. I'm saying that the hiring sectors of essential services could be funded in isolation of their CEO's. Give them funding for more job slots and suddenly money is being earned, not handed out. You still get your money, but you're earning it, you know? I hope this is making sense X_X
#499 to #489 - feelythefeel ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
Just to let you know, I'm Canadian as well. I agree that there exist people who abuse the system, yet a good majority of people who receive money from the government really need it. If the majority were just abusing it, then it would be stopped. But a lot of lower class have been economically raped by corporate interests, this being the core problem with American politics, it seems to simply be another source of revenue for the higher class. I think we can both agree though, tougher regulations on welfare are definitely a requirement for future progress.

Also, I admit to agreeing with the basic tenants of Communism, that is, a working class-driven society without self interest taking precedence over the well being of your country. Of course, it rarely works out that way, but the idea is nice.

You are making sense, I think this is getting to a Ketchup Catsup issue, so lets just stop this.
User avatar #503 to #499 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
apparently my Catsup is angering the red thumb fairy xD
#380 to #363 - eboloramma (04/11/2012) [-]
http://www dot postlibertarian dot com/2012/03/218-reasons-not-to-vote-for-obama/

Yea he's so goddamn good. Definitely keep him in office.
#370 to #363 - anonymous (04/11/2012) [-]
true, but i still think bush ****** us harder than any president ever will.
#382 to #370 - anonymous (04/11/2012) [-]
Bush was just wrong place, wrong time. Besides, the president is just a puppet to the party bosses anyways.
User avatar #387 to #382 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
shhh, we're on the internet, you're not allowed to be republican and believe in individual freedoms unless it's about stealing stu-- I mean pirating things that totally should be free... and stuff... DOWN WITH THE uhhh... ******* uhhh... RICH PEOPLE...and stuff o.o
#348 - posalad Comment deleted by I Am Monkey [-]
User avatar #391 to #348 - I Am Monkey (04/11/2012) [-]
That's like asking someone to fix your computer and they start banging it with a hammer.
Republicans want to cut funding to the money pits that Democrats dump all our tax dollars into.
They want to cut things like welfare and wasteful regulations, not useful organizations like NASA that offer huge returns on their investment.
User avatar #452 to #391 - adunsaveme (04/11/2012) [-]
What did he say to get 20 thumbs up
User avatar #486 to #452 - I Am Monkey (04/11/2012) [-]
He said Republicans told Obama to spend less therefore they're responsible for cutting NASA.

I know I look like a tool deleting it, but I had to do it for the sake of my own sanity.
A die a little inside whenever one of these "herp derp blame republicans" comments gets thumbed up.
User avatar #517 to #486 - posalad (04/11/2012) [-]
SHE said nothing of the sort, but I am going to stop commenting because it's futile to argue with a child who deletes opposing opinions.
User avatar #488 to #486 - adunsaveme (04/11/2012) [-]
We don't have that kind of democratical system in Australia so I really don't know what all this democrat/republican stuff is

But Obama is a pretty chill president
#402 to #391 - posalad (04/11/2012) [-]
Because assisting the people that were hurt most in our economic recession is oh so wasteful.
User avatar #428 to #402 - I Am Monkey (04/11/2012) [-]
I'm sorry, but seeing that comment getting thumbed up was making me lost faith in humanity.
User avatar #421 to #402 - I Am Monkey (04/11/2012) [-]
If he believe that you have to spend your way out of a recession then you need to use that money to put those people to work. If you just shell out Obama dollars for them to bum around you're literally flushing that money down the toilet. There is zero return on the investment. If you let people get money for nothing, then they have no reason to get up off their asses.
User avatar #443 to #421 - posalad (04/11/2012) [-]
I'm sorry, I wasn't going to assume **** and actually thought that you actually had a good argument for opposing welfare. But nope, you're just as ignorant as everyone else. Most people who use welfare do not abuse it, and the average welfare user is a middle aged single mother who uses it for 2-3 months maximum. It keeps alot of people off the streets, and i would gladly pay for that rather than rockets to the moon/
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#413 to #364 - anonymous (04/11/2012) [-]
Exploration and discovery can wait when we've got huge problems that threaten what we already have.

Survival first, progress later.
User avatar #392 to #364 - posalad (04/11/2012) [-]
I feel as though it was necessary; millions and millions of dollars thrown at a program to send 2-3 people up to go to the moon ( when they may or may not get there) or some other location every few years is not progress in my mind. I believe at this point in time there's other government programs that need more time, attention, and resources that could help us cure, or at least treat our current problems.
#361 to #348 - anonymous (04/11/2012) [-]
btw NASA isn't gone, only the space exploration part of it
User avatar #395 to #361 - Sethorein ONLINE (04/11/2012) [-]
...which is a bloody large part of it... look at the federal budget, barely ANY of it goes to NASA whereas a butt tonne of it goes to aid programs for the poor... now I love poor people, I really do... but you know... call me a heartless Utilitarian... but I'd like to keep services that may improve the lives of all humans rather than ones that only temporarily help those who cannot help themselves...
#359 to #348 - anonymous (04/11/2012) [-]
It's because science is a major driver or economic growth, and cutting it is like finding out you have too much weight in your car so you pull out the spark plugs
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