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#1379 to #17 - ifaptoshittedpants (04/01/2012) [-]
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biggest shitstorm evar!
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btw its cool that you answer MOST of the replies. havent seen sonething like that before.
(or i just see yours especially because of the red text)
you even replied to that anon dickhead on the bottom!
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User avatar #1350 to #17 - potatopotato (04/01/2012) [-]
I saw your comment when you first posted it and thumbed it up. I was number 3 or 4 or so. I never would have thought that you would get this many thumbs, especially from the FJ community. Usually when there is any Christian defending their beliefs, its hard to get a positive review from the users on here. But you my friend did exactly that, and I'm just amazed. I was raised Catholic, and I still am a practicing Catholic today, and I truly try to live every day the same way you are. I can tell by your comments that you really are a true Christian, you understand that people have faults, but you love them no matter what. It's just great knowing that there is more than one of us out there that is trying to bring Christianity back to the loving religion that it should be instead of the hateful and discriminating religion that it has become today because of man's selfish ways. Anyways, keep up what you're doing. Hopefully someday the both of us can influence enough people and show them the love that is Christianity.
User avatar #1343 to #17 - dualshooter (04/01/2012) [-]
Nois, you came back! I'm pretty happy about that, I was genuinely disappointed when I found out you left - you were one of the few funnyjunkies I had any real respect for.
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User avatar #1297 to #17 - maattb (04/01/2012) [-]
I am sure the bible says things about hard work and how important it is and yet.. you.. seem to not like doing homework. In4b THAT JOKE IS SO OLD OMG MAN. But in all seriousness, thank-you for such a great point.
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#1247 to #17 - devout feminist (04/01/2012) [-]
Am I the only one who finds it funny that you have red text, and and a lot of bibles, Jesus's words were highlighted in red?
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#1147 to #17 - ohaibrooooh (04/01/2012) [-]
You sir, have given me the best 10 minutes of reading on FJ EVER.
Go with Christ, bro. Pic related.
User avatar #1243 to #1147 - vanoreo (04/01/2012) [-]
That took you ten minutes to read?
User avatar #1211 to #1147 - gasster (04/01/2012) [-]
slow reader?
User avatar #1249 to #1211 - ohaibrooooh (04/01/2012) [-]
The entire thread. lol
#1039 to #17 - HolyArachnid (03/31/2012) [-]
And this is why you're awesome, Nois :D   
   
I seem to remember that we became friends over a discussion not unlike this one ( funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2693253/Facebook/42#42 if anyone wants to check it out). I said it there and I'll say it again: if more of the outspoken religious figures were like you rather than Santorum, religion would get nowhere near the shit it does on here.
And this is why you're awesome, Nois :D

I seem to remember that we became friends over a discussion not unlike this one ( funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2693253/Facebook/42#42 if anyone wants to check it out). I said it there and I'll say it again: if more of the outspoken religious figures were like you rather than Santorum, religion would get nowhere near the shit it does on here.
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User avatar #875 to #17 - iaaron (03/31/2012) [-]
Wow, it looks like you finally did your homework.

Old joke is old
User avatar #743 to #17 - inetus (03/31/2012) [-]
Hey, you should probably be focusing on that homework man
#734 to #17 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
how do you feel now?
Let me fucking point out my 2 cents, alright? If there is any GOD on this universe then the question you fuking should ask yourselves (christians,muslims,fags,dickbuts) is why did he create us? To fcking stay and pray to him for giving us life? Oh no, my friend: I perceive my life this way: If I was fucking born on this motherfucking world, I must motherfucking live it and properly fight for myself, but not forget about others, therefore the reason for my life is getting a good life and helping when necessary (ocassionaly) others.

And I don't care about gays, imo they should all burn or I dno there is some rumor that in California they are making a whole new city completly for homosexuals: now fucking leave there, I dont wanna see them, I want them disappear. I prefer seeing bullies all day long and getting beaten up. Bullies will steal your mobile phone and probably your money, gays will steal something much important.

And anon seems somehow stupid, but the amount of fucks I give is zero. God didn't make us to study the phylosophy in bible, which is most probably fake, therefore fucking live your life and stop talking shit and believing you are smart, cos believe me: you are 20 yo(maximum) piece of shit that think that they are unique and special and that they serve a nobile case. No you are not, all your dreams are ruined. If you think you got extra intelligence and unthought thoughts you are wrong once again, therefore don't anger anons.
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#1369 to #1344 - devout feminist (04/01/2012) [-]
Tbh, I was writing at speed, therefore I didn't check my grammar and spelling, but that aside. You were implying in your top comment that you are Catholic. And I am really nothing but an atheist overall, but I do believe in some connection with the God. I'm just laughing when I see you people getting so attached to religion and you come with ideas, concept of what he really meant in the Bible, his teachings and what he really meant by creating us. Though I think it'd be way too complicated to such intensive believers to understand what I'm saying. Therefore I'll go straight forward to "homosexuality" point. Judging from your religious point of view, God created woman and man. Happy? Or did he fucking create 2 men and 2 women, just in case you know ... If they are bisexuals. No, my friend I'm completly against gays. Why? Because 2 men will never give birth to a third man or to a daughter. They are useless.

By the way, for me it's on the contrary: I haven't lost any hope in my life and you know why? Because I don't stay and study Bible and religious stuff at all. I know that I was given intelligence to choose the right path in life and judge over it, definitely not to follow Jesus teachings (who isn't proven to be some unique creature in this universe, fuck knows - the appearance "that died or went to skies" 2012 ago might have not been unique and fuck knows what we can find on this universe - may be "Jesuses" people saw have a planet of their own with creatures with special abilites).

So if you are going to correct me and you actually corrected others, you'll be wrong. Why? Re-read your top comment: "God gave us free will to choose. Not to be forced into a set of beliefs." Therefore - judge my little "smart" friend.

Btw anons don't care about thumb up/downs
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#1387 to #1378 - devout feminist (04/01/2012) [-]
On the contrary, American believing cunt. Learn to read.
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You didn't even spell philosophy right
User avatar #724 to #17 - rennat ONLINE (03/31/2012) [-]
Didn't Satan give humanity free will when he convinced Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge?
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User avatar #1357 to #1346 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
But if we didn't have the choice between good and evil then we were being forced into following what God appointed as good, which, given his track record, isn't that good at all. They didn't have a free will to choose what they wanted by being deprived of all choices. Isn't it said that it is better to have great evil within and overcome it than to have been good all along? That sounds like a much better person to me at least. So wouldn't it be a great gift to humanity to have the freedom to choose rather than be forced into someone else's beliefs? You could talk about Gods all loving nature and say that he knows the greatest good for man to follow but he has sanctioned atrocities, which can't be absolved from him as he is supposedly omnipotent and eternal, thus saying that what he is described as in all of the books of the Bible is what he is and can never change. If this is true and he can suddenly change his mind about something then his thoughts are as human as yours or mine. If he was forcing the moral code that condones infant murdering and the conquering and destruction of societies he deemed "tainted" onto the first humans than I would have to call Satan our true savior for having released us from the grip of such a tyrant and allowing us to think for ourselves. Not trying to be an ass here, just a deduction that dawned on me.
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User avatar #1362 to #1359 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
If God was angry then, he has to be angry now. That isn't debatable because that is a core concept of the Bible and without it you are changing into something other than the original idea. He is said to be eternal, thus he must stay as is stated in the books. Now if we get into books that have been altered or changed to fit man then how do we know that the entire thing isn't manufactured from the start by man. The only reason one would have for believing something like this is faith. I personally condemn faith. It asks for a belief in something without any reason to believe it. I think the whole thing is probably a construction, first to control people through fear, then altered to lure people in to be pacified. We see this pretty clearly with the earlier ideas of Jesus in some ancient writings. The ones that tell of a man named Jesus who was the son of god but was born several hundred years before the now taught date. Scholars presume that this was the first time the tall was tried out but didn't take hold so it was altered and set much closer to the date we now see. And you must see that the myth shows that Satan allowed for more free will in mental faculties. There was an entire chunk of morality that humanity was deprived of by God. Whether good or not this is something humanity would have needed to grow. Without a reason to change and move forward, a culture completely stagnates. And still, you haven't told me why God doesn't just change us back. If he believes that the suffering is needed for humanity to grow then you would have to say that God was wrong and Satan was right.
User avatar #1363 to #1362 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
Ignore the last bit, hadn't read the next message yet.
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User avatar #1360 to #1358 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
So God is omnipotent in your religion? Then why doesn't he just return everyone to a "pre-apple/fig/whatever" state? He obviously found the previous state better and according to your beliefs he wants everyone to be good. He condones violence and allows it to continue. If he wanted it to stop he could get rid of it without removing any of our free will (according to what you have told me). My biggest issue is why we should worship such an evil being in the first place. He has the means to remove our suffering but instead allows it to continue. And I know that they say he wants us to willing turn to his love by choice, but that would require Satan's intervention in the Garden to give us a choice in the first place. So he either planned this all along and Satan was as integral in his plan as anyone or he is unable to stop the "evil" that has befallen us and not a God by any definition.So he is either as bad as Satan or weaker and one would think that Satan is the one in charge. In terms of abortion, everyone should have their own choice. The child can't be considered a person, at least by my definition, until it is self aware which isn't until near the end of the pregnancy. Otherwise you are removing a piece of biomass from a body that can someday become a human. No different than eating an egg. It could have someday been a fully self-aware chicken, but instead we removed that chance and turned it into food. It isn't an exact parallel because of the difference in intelligence between the two but it is a decent one.
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User avatar #1364 to #1361 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
But if it was Gods will in the first place for us to not have the knowledge we gained then he could remove it. Plus, if he were omnipotent he could remove the evil without removing the good. Now I never said a child wasn't considered a person. I said very clearly that an abortion is fine until self aware, which isn't until the third trimester. Vegetative state, I think they should be put out of their misery, assuming they can still feel misery. Consider the torture of never feeling another persons touch, the guilt of the burden placed on the family, and being unable to reconcile anything you may have done to a person. It is just like being dead, except you can see all the pain of the people around you. If I were ever like that, I would want to be taken off of life support. And if we want to get into the "Ive never experienced it so I can't be sure" areas, its rendered moot. The saying is "I think, therefore I am. Beyond this I cannot know.". If you show me a fetus that is in its first trimester that can write a sonnet, paint a paining, or sculpt a person, then I will say it shouldn't be killed. A person of another language can do these, a paralyzed person can, and someone of low IQ doesn't exist as the tests used to determine IQ are outdated and only measure problem solving and unusual thinking, not social, physical, personal, interpersonal, or auditory intelligence.
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User avatar #1366 to #1365 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
On vegetative states, I'm saying it is impossible for someone to want to live that way. Hardened criminals who are put in solitary confinement can't stand it for more than a few days and they often times go insane from it. And that is why it says in my will that I don't want to be supported in a vegetative state. Others should have it in theirs as well but if they don't then you have to put yourself in their shoes and decide. Would you really be a happy person knowing that you could never express yourself to anyone, ever? No one can ever understand you, you can never share a connection with the outside world, never fulfill any dreams you had. Again, I find this the worst kind of existence and I wouldn't want to be tortured with this.

Now onto "I think, therefore I am". I was just using it to show that you can never truly know anything, even the existence or lack thereof of a God, outside yourself to show that it is pointless to talk about.

Now about the wanting to live in a life at all. Until the fetus can think, which is late in the third trimester, it isn't human. If we go further into the we'll get bogged down in the semantics of when "Consciousness" truly begins and lose the point so I will just say that until it has brain function beyond basic reaction to stimuli it is unable to think. And sadly, a child can be a burden. A family women might have made a bad choice and the father left and now the child will grow up in a broken home. Is that fair? No, and the father is an ass for doing it, but is the mother wrong to not want to bring a child into a broken life that will bring so much pain to her and the child through their suffering? I think not. I don't think she should be free of guilt like some women who get abortions seem to be, but someone shouldn't be condemned to a life of hardship, both mother and child, for a mistake she made years earlier. Now I'm sure you don't see any child as a burden but some truly can be in certain situations.
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User avatar #1368 to #1367 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
On the vegetative state, it really is impossible to make a decision for someone else and if they haven't left anything for us to use to determine their wishes I say we make no decision at all. In a world where a God exists he obviously wanted this guy dead but we then kept him alive using machines. By your own faith you should allow the man/woman to die.

And on the abortions, you gave a somewhat best case scenario for the kid. In real life the child will likely suffer trauma from neglect by the mother as she desperately tries to keep her and the child feed, abandonment issues from the father leaving and will in all likelihood end up in drugs or committing suicide. Neither of the cases we present are going to be accurate to everyone so we have to use our heads to make a choice. The woman has to think, can I provide everything this child needs, physically and mentally, to give it a good life. If she really can't then she should get it aborted. And most women will likely try again later in life if they want a child, thousands of people have led happy lives and have left grand legacies without ever having a child.
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User avatar #1388 to #1377 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
I'm looking through this from my angle, and I have known suffering my entire life. A father caught up working to keep the family going, a mother that cheated on my father a couple times a year and abandoned us, a handicapped sister that died when I was 10, and a massive depression complex that has left me on the brink of suicide several times. I've lived through the suffering of a bad life and I know that many could have it worse. I'm just saying that it is a cruel thing to force a child into a life like this. And about the 2 year old situation,then you keep the child. I am saying ONLY before late in the third trimester of pregnancy, after that it is a human life and has rights of its own.

And about your question, by your faith you would allow the man to die. The man was in an accident that was obviously part of your Gods "plan" and resuscitation him would be against your beliefs. The belief that man shouldn't interfere in Gods plan for a person. I would support using the defibrillator to save his life because he is alive and has all the faculties of a human. If a fetus had all these cognitive functions at conception then I would oppose abortion but they simply do not. I understand that it has the potential for life, but it isn't a life yet, the man in the question is a breathing, thinking, human.
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User avatar #1394 to #1392 - rennat ONLINE (04/01/2012) [-]
If your God is all about healing people, then why has he never healed an amputee?

And the answer to your question, what makes a human? For you I am sure it is defined as the soul in a person. I say it isn't anymore than the series of neurotransmitters in the brain firing and arranging in sequence to create a personality. Now we go into what is the "Spark" of life. At what point is a biomass inside someone considered human? I just say that it isn't human until it can think on its own. Which doesn't take place until late in a pregnancy.

And about the man, he still has a fully capable brain that has formed a personality in it, it is just "unplugged" to a degree. A fetus doesn't have this.
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User avatar #1396 to #1395 - rennat ONLINE (04/02/2012) [-]
But what about the people that are unable to receive a prosthetic limb? Why does God just abandon them and not heal their wounds?

I was referring to a personality of a person, which is infinitely more complex then that of a dog. Although I don't agree with the slaughter of animals as they do have higher levels of thinking. Again, I only condone saving something that will live a better life than otherwise.

And the man your describing couldn't be brought back, clinically dead refers to someone who still has residual activity in the brain and body. You are describing a corpse.
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User avatar #1400 to #1398 - rennat ONLINE (04/02/2012) [-]
But we didn't cause cancer. There is no reason for Him not to get rid of cancer. He created to cause suffering. I know you would say that people grow from the experience but it is torture. Anything that advocates something so cruel isn't a God in my eyes and shouldn't be considered one in anyone else's. And God could end war if he wanted to, but instead he allows people to fight kill over petty disputes? He could stop it, he just thinks we'll learn better the other way? That is a case of the ends justifying the means which is widely seen as the worst way to teach anyone anything. Ex. the recent kidnapping of a group of church kids by church officials to teach them the dangers of kidnapping. A minister put a real AK-47 to a kids head and said he would kill her.

And we aren't talking about potential here. Everyone has a potential for something. You could argue that he could be the next Mozart and I would argue that he could be the next Hitler. Potential is a moot point here.

And now your using semantics. When we say that someone has "no personality" we aren't saying they literal lack any emotional reaction and cognitive function, it is used to describe someone who enjoys things we find boring.
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#352 to #17 - yomommabinshoppin (03/31/2012) [-]
As a fellow Christian, that was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen that was said among a religious crapstorm, I love you man (no homo)
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User avatar #1272 to #334 - Ruspanic (04/01/2012) [-]
It has very little to do with political ideology, although there's a definite correlation. If you believe unborn children have a right to life, then abortion is murder and and opposing it is entirely reasonable and even morally obligatory. That belief often (though not always) has to do with religion. Especially if you believe in souls.
On the other hand, if you see a fetus merely as a lump of tissue without sentience, you may believe in a pregnant woman's right to abort.
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User avatar #1278 to #370 - Ruspanic (04/01/2012) [-]
Catholicism and Methodism are both branches of Christianity.
#963 to #370 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Just because his opinion is different to yours, that doesn't make it 'wrong'. Just because he disagrees with you it doesn't make your opinion correct and his incorrect.
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#503 to #382 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Not to say you're wrong or anything, but where you aware of the fact that by posting what you did, which I wholeheartedly commend you for, you've just created a religious shitstorm?

I don't see why it's so hard for people to STFU with the "but that's wrong." Basic transcendentalism teaches us that by doing so you're forcing other people to accept what YOU believe keeping them from being their own person...

And basically if you do that, you're being worse than so many of the Christians that give Christianity a bad name.

/Anon's two cents
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#256 to #17 - icytime (03/31/2012) [-]
Nois, on this day, I will not make a homework joke.
User avatar #185 to #17 - thelastafrican (03/31/2012) [-]
I'm a Muslim, and I love the way you talk.
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#355 to #187 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
It is much more beautiful in Arabic. Arabic has always had a poetic vibe to the words and that is largely in part due to the oral culture that surrounded the region at that time. The Quranic verses are exponentially better written and more beautiful than the best Arabic epics and poems in history.
#155 to #17 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
If you think like that you aren't really a catholic. Just sayin'
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#87 to #17 - finni (03/31/2012) [-]
Hi. I'm a protestant and I think you're right
#85 to #17 - SunilCCXXXVII **User deleted account** (03/31/2012) [-]
Good to see a Christian with open views.

Anyway, I don't know if I'm right here, because I haven't read the bible, but to my understanding the New Testament says nothing about homosexuality, not for or against. And even though the Old Testaments do, Christians don't follow them because of the obvious horrific acts in them.. If it's true that it has no mention in the NT, why would some Christians follow just some of the teaching of the OT.. I don't get it.

As I said, I don't know if it's true, because a lot of sites give different quotes and interpretations it's hard to know what to trust.
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#231 to #163 - SunilCCXXXVII **User deleted account** (03/31/2012) [-]
"homosexuality. It should be located in timothy."
MFW, Lol couldn't help myself there.

I like you type of Christians, you don't deny yet you don't make stupid excuses either. I like religion in the hands of people like that, it gives religion some meaning.

I'm agnostic, but I think religion is a very powerful tool, motivator, and guide to those who need or want it, I hate seeing religion being used wrongly where it causes more damage while it's being justified as gods law, religious people need to be more like you and use their common sense and even the morals instilled by religion to dictate right from wrong.

I get what you mean in your answering too, but from now on I think if I ever join a conversation about this I'd rather ignore it, just because the ones that would believe and insist that they don't count the OT wouldn't be open enough to see a different interpretation.
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#73 to #17 - auesis (03/31/2012) [-]
I go to a Catholic school, not because of faith (I'm an atheist), but because of the quality of the education (to my surprise, the sciences are not affected). I have come in to contact with many strong believing and practising Catholic members of staff while studying there, and none of them have been as accepting as you. Their doctrine is stiff, unaccepting, insensitive, arrogant and disrespectful to all but the "desirables" ie. straight, uptight, sexually inactive unless for reproduction (no making love in this neighbourhood), the list goes on.

I'm not sure if you're saying that homosexuality is a choice (which I would disagree with), but that doesn't really matter. You have single-handedly restored my faith in religion. You are the prime example of what a believer SHOULD be. It's just a shame that there are so many crazy zealots out there, and they make all you look like a bunch of lunatics, when you're really not.

Here is my thumb. Take it. Cherish it. You deserve it.
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User avatar #71 to #17 - ArmorG (03/31/2012) [-]
I bet other people forgot about it.

But not me.

I've been waiting a very long time.




Do your homework.
#69 to #17 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
>thinks that abortions are murder
>says that murderers should be respected
>totally not contradictory
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#522 to #180 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Good point! still, i believe abortion is justified in some cases. Imagine for example your impregnated fiancee is going to have a child with down syndrome, cystic fibrosis, or any similar genetic illness. The fetus has no brain activity until the beggining of the third trimester. Wouldn't you consider the abortion as an option? Don't get me wrong please, Of course they have the same right as anyone to live. But would you, as a loving parent, let your kid live up to 20 years attached to a machine and see him suffer more and more every day? Or see your kid cry every day due to rejection and social ineptitude? I dont think i could... Just want to know your opinion, i found your posts interesting.
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haha I fucking lold... Good one Anon +1.
#67 to #17 - fedor (03/31/2012) [-]
You must be the first religious person who has ever been accepting.
When I ask christians etc, about the Norse Gods (My gods and the northern gods) they say stuff like: "Hurr they doesn't real, fake gods hurr jesus is the way durr".
You don't seem like that kind of person. I mean, whose to say which religion is the "right" one. No one. Because no religion is the "right" one.
User avatar #1281 to #67 - Ruspanic (04/01/2012) [-]
Dude, believing in one's own religion and rejecting the accuracy of others doesn't make one intolerant. You can't expect Christians to accept Christianity AND other religions that directly contradict it.
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User avatar #206 to #181 - fedor (03/31/2012) [-]
If you believe that your religion is the "right" one, then what about all of the other religions?What about my religion?

If you think that your is right, and others is wrong, then you are not as good of a catholic as people here might want to think.
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User avatar #730 to #246 - fedor (03/31/2012) [-]
My religion is the Norse Mythology. I know what you mean about what you're saying, but I can never say that my religion is right, because that makes me unaccepting of other religions and it makes me pretty arrogant because it means I believe my religon is "better" and more important that anyone elses. I respect people's beliefs and people's opinions, but you can't say that your religon is right, no matter what. Because there are so many of them out there, even some that are older that the Christian/Catholic teachings.

Take as an example this: the sumarian writings, the oldest written text ever written, speaks about beings who came from the skies (Universe) to Earth and created us it THEIR image (Annunaki). Sumarian is a lot older than any other writings in the world. And all religons are so related to eachother and to what the sumarian text describe that I would follow the Sumarian texts.
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User avatar #1370 to #1334 - fedor (04/01/2012) [-]
I see. But let's not use our time on ramblings about each others religions. It'll get us no where. Have a good life!
#65 to #17 - robotgoose ONLINE (03/31/2012) [-]
You, sir, are the ultimate representative for religion. Some faith in Catolicism restored.
#57 to #17 - coonmix (03/31/2012) [-]
Looks like someone did their homework.
#53 to #17 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Logic and faith, you're awesome.

Though I'd wish you'd get off Funnyjunk and become Pope and sort some people out.
#52 to #17 - itsjustmeinca (03/31/2012) [-]
try being raised a christian and everyone thinks you are crazy like rick perry, westboro baptist, etc. when i just dont care. pic not related i just have no use for it.
#289 to #52 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
well a lot of cristians are actually cool people who arent finatics and force things down everyones throught but they think everyone will get pissed at them if they say anything about them because everyone comes to a conclusion that every cristian is like that, just how they come to conclusions with americans
#44 to #17 - conordalymcr (03/31/2012) [-]
Do your homework
Do your homework
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Thumbed down
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User avatar #1284 to #37 - swimmingprodigy (04/01/2012) [-]
I was gonna thumb THIS down
#38 to #37 - dutchbag (03/31/2012) [-]
To thumb up twice!
To thumb up twice!
User avatar #1285 to #38 - swimmingprodigy (04/01/2012) [-]
Until I read this :)
#102 to #38 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
AH! You got me, stay awesome!
User avatar #30 to #17 - herecomesjohnny (03/31/2012) [-]
Nice try, Jesus, we know it's you!
#24 to #17 - shadowstepone (03/31/2012) [-]
the bible doesn't say anything bad about homosexuality. "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Leviticus 18:22. a gay guy doesn't bed with a man in the way he beds with a female, does he?
#327 to #24 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Just wanted to say, he doesn't lay in bed with a man as he should a woman but that's because he can't. If men could physically have sex like men and women could, I bet they would do it regardless. Here's another verse just for reference:
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders--
It's not saying it is a sin but its saying that it is being wicked. Which is saying bad about homosexuality. And normally being wicked is a sin.
#36 to #24 - albinosmurf (03/31/2012) [-]
Darby: (J.N. Darby Translation, 1890): "And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them."
KJV: (King James Version): "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."
LB: (Living Bible): "The penalty for homosexual acts is death to both parties. They have brought it upon themselves."
NASB: (New American Standard Bible): "'If {there is} a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. "

-Leviticus 20:13 in a couple versions...there are dozens of different ones.

All in all, I am not a religious person even though I have had some theological training. The bible has so many versions, and each version almost conflicts itself.

That being said, Nois, I will say that you seem intelligent, and have a true christian spirit, for whatever good it will do you in this cold world.

Wait...you have a good chrisitian spirit.

What Dafuq are you doing on fj?!
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User avatar #1333 to #25 - danniegurl (04/01/2012) [-]
your name is Gaelic isn't it?
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User avatar #1336 to #1335 - danniegurl (04/01/2012) [-]
lol, that name is in the celtic myth "Deirdre of the Sorrows" and is pronounced "neesh"
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User avatar #1345 to #1339 - danniegurl (04/01/2012) [-]
wait, oops, it's naois not nois. but he it the guy that deirdre falls in ove with and they get married behind the king's back. so, long story short, the king gets revenge and naois and his brothers die. then deirdre kills herself before she has to marry the king. the king orders their graves be at opposite ends of a meadow, but a tree shoot (i think fir) comes out of each grave and unites in a knot and they are forever tied together.
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User avatar #1351 to #1348 - danniegurl (04/01/2012) [-]
except for all the dying, yeah
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User avatar #1354 to #1352 - danniegurl (04/01/2012) [-]
yep, me too.
User avatar #1347 to #1345 - danniegurl (04/01/2012) [-]
is* love* my l button is broken
#258 to #25 - junter (03/31/2012) [-]
You are my new favorite person. Move over, NPH. There's a new hero in town.
User avatar #27 to #25 - shadowstepone (03/31/2012) [-]
actually, as long as i've got you here, what is actually wrong with sex? i know that people need to be more careful about it, but why is it inherently a bad thing? also, why do we need to reproduce so much? after all, we've already got too many people to feed properly.
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#223 to #28 - ravenfyra (03/31/2012) [-]
Holy fuck, a well-thought out and respectful religion debate!

On the internet!
#182 to #28 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Nice to see a Christian with the same beliefs as me.
#108 to #28 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Aww and it was going so well. Child Poverty has fallen in absolute terms drastically in the last century, so your statement is just false.

Also, with contraception and family planning is a key tool of the the UN in reaching the Millennium Development Goals, see Indonesia for more information.

(I volunteer with Engineers Without Borders UK)
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#115 to #108 - nouder (03/31/2012) [-]
Looks like nois...

*puts on sunglasses*

didn't do his homework
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User avatar #103 to #28 - zastavooo (03/31/2012) [-]
Hey Nois, DO YOUR MOTHERFUCKING HOMEWORK AND GET OFF FUNNYJUNK. Just kidding, old joke is old.
User avatar #29 to #28 - shadowstepone (03/31/2012) [-]
thank you. this has been one of the most civilized internet conversations i've ever had with a catholic.
#54 to #29 - Berzer (03/31/2012) [-]
you just have not had the opportunity to talk with the sane ones, most of us are like nois, we just aren't as loud as the insane ones...or have signs...or get ignored by the media because we are too plain and don't cause enough controversy...
User avatar #22 to #17 - lordalpaca (03/31/2012) [-]
If I become a Catholic, will I get red text?
User avatar #191 to #22 - theomegaman (03/31/2012) [-]
Replace "free PSP" with "red text".
#193 to #191 - theomegaman (03/31/2012) [-]
Forgot the .gif.
Forgot the .gif.
#363 to #193 - fuckingtrolls (03/31/2012) [-]
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You're breaking my balls man. But sure no problem.
User avatar #353 to #347 - theomegaman (03/31/2012) [-]
You the man. Could you also change the PSP to an FJ logo, if you can? That would be even cooler.
User avatar #365 to #353 - fuckingtrolls (03/31/2012) [-]
Which logo? There are several.
User avatar #366 to #365 - theomegaman (03/31/2012) [-]
Just the regular one in the top left.
#594 to #366 - fuckingtrolls (03/31/2012) [-]
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Sorry it took a while i was having an argument with sunset.
He's a fucking asshole.
User avatar #635 to #594 - theomegaman (03/31/2012) [-]
That is so awesome man.
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#98 to #23 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
You should have told him he would, you'd have converted the whole of FJ...
#20 to #17 - devout feminist (03/31/2012) [-]
Thoughts like this are the only reason i havnt bombed a church yet :)

THE ONLY REASON
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User avatar #372 to #232 - axlsummer (03/31/2012) [-]
nois for pope!
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User avatar #379 to #374 - axlsummer (03/31/2012) [-]
still, i have never seen anybody makes points about religion so interessting to read and also respectful, nice and informative! you have alle my respect for that!
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User avatar #387 to #384 - axlsummer (03/31/2012) [-]
thanks, i wish you a happy life !
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