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#83 - mrcarpenter
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(01/12/2012) [-]
if the voting age was lowered he would so much more votes
#85 to #83 - ristycakes
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(01/12/2012) [-]
ya, a lot more stupid ones.
and before you argue with me... remember the stupidity of the average person
#86 to #85 - ristycakes
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(01/12/2012) [-]
micky mouse might actually win if that happened
#103 to #83 - mattmoshpitt **User deleted account**
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#206 to #103 - sirmctree
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(01/13/2012) [-]
Is it weird that those accidentally sentence sense make to me?
#58 - thefapperman
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#87 - GrantImahara
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Yes, because the President is the ONLY branch of government that makes laws.
Yes, because the President is the ONLY branch of government that makes laws.
#91 to #87 - anon
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(01/12/2012) [-]
I don't think the post said anything about anybody making laws. What the hell are you trying to argue?
#92 to #91 - GrantImahara
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I've been reading a lot of the comments on political posts like this one. People seem to think that the president can just magically make a law.
#93 to #92 - GrantImahara
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Point being, that even if Ron Paul gets elected, it doesn't mean pot will be legalized, or old laws will be abolished.
#109 to #93 - anon
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However it does mean that he can veto any act that the legislative branch put forward
#152 to #109 - GrantImahara
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Unfortunately, any act that is vetoed, can be over turned with a 2/3 congress majority. Which, unfortunately is possible, since congress is a bunch of people incompetent with the internet.
#144 to #91 - drcroccer
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I think his point is that people should stop pretending that the President has absolute power and stop idolizing and hypeing them and their ideas way too much when it's obvious that most of them will not be implemented because of the entire democratic process thing. It happened with Obama, and it's happin with Paul now. Even if Paul gets elected it's very likely that three-quarters of what he wants to push through will quite simply not happen, and the same people who treated him like Jesus before will now get rabidly angry and disappointed at him and use him as a scapegoat for actions in which he really didn't have any say in.
#137 to #87 - karris
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(01/12/2012) [-]
My history teacher taught my class about that with this cartoon.
#169 - denim
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#171 to #169 - borntowrite
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(01/13/2012) [-]
Clever
#207 to #169 - anon
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(01/13/2012) [-]
It's funny because it's completely unconstitutional
#52 - TheCynic
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(01/12/2012) [-]
"Because Ron Paul would be different from the other hundred figureheads we use as a scapegoat. This one is DIFFERENT."   
   
 Boy- doesn't THAT sound familiar.
"Because Ron Paul would be different from the other hundred figureheads we use as a scapegoat. This one is DIFFERENT."

Boy- doesn't THAT sound familiar.
#60 to #52 - ReeferTrees
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Seeing as how all the Corporations and Companies that back all the other presidential candidates are Shunning Ron Paul, Yes he is different.

Seeing as how Ron Paul is the ONLY one out to defend the constitution, yes he is different.

Seeing as how most of those other presidents actually did their jobs and it has only been the last few presidents to **** the country up, He is no different from an honest president who believes in TRUE freedom.
#65 to #60 - TheCynic
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(01/12/2012) [-]
> Implying that the president has any real power
> Under the illusion that the last batch of presidents are to blame for every problem in the world
> Implying that candidates actually care about people.
#75 to #65 - ReeferTrees
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Obvious troll is Obvious.

Seeing as how the past presidents have abused their powers, yeah I'd have to say they would need power in order to abuse it. Your argument is invalid.

Seeing as how I never mentioned world problems, I am under no illusion. Your argument is invalid.

Seeing as how all the other candidates DON'T care about the people (My whole goddamn point) Another of your arguments are invalid.

Please, troll harder.
#101 to #75 - TheCynic
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(01/12/2012) [-]
If I was trolling, it wouldn't be this easy.

The president has no further power than to represent the people. Congress has all the power. Anything that the president can actually do, Congress can with more authority. The president does nothing more than speak for them and get made fun of.

But since you have issues understanding that Ron Paul is no different than any other candidate, let me help you understand. Ron Paul has people twenty-four seven around the clock speaking for him and telling him what to say. Ron has people write his speeches for him and instruct him on what to tell the people and what not to tell the people. If you think he's the "freedom leader" that his campaign manager wants you to think he is, then you're a bigger fool and social tool than you realize.
#104 to #101 - ReeferTrees
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If you understood a single thing about the American government it is that there are 3 branches and they are all EQUAL in power, though their power pertains to different issues.

One of the things Ron Paul is fighting for is to end this "War" our other presidents with absolutely no power, as you have said, totally made up and went right above congresses head with it. Not with some flimsy excuse like "bringing home the troops" but with an actual and factual statement that CONGRESS is the one to declare war NOT THE PRESIDENTS.

So as you can see he is fighting to right the power balance in government. Something you seem to know nothing of.
#177 to #104 - TheCynic
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Yet again, you're assuming that Ron Paul is the character his campaign manager says he is. It's hilarious that you're falling for it. As "equally divided" as the branches are, in the end, the Executive is the one that approves everything. Congress has all the power. The president has none of it.

If a president could wave his magic wand and try to shift power, don't you think that would have happened by now?

You're still going by what second grade taught you. Not by reality.
#126 to #104 - drroxxo
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sorry to tell you Ron Paul hater but thecynic is right...Congress can go around the veto if they need to. if companies want something done all they have to do is let the president either veto the bill or do nothing about it within a ten day period. if he signs it as a veto they simply need 2/3 of the senate and house together to vote for the bill and it's done. it's called a veto override. the president doesn't matter in the least.
#191 to #75 - seeggul
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seeing as how you use literary devices such as anaphora, your argument must be valid
#309 - patombomb
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#155 - greatjusticeman **User deleted account**
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#178 to #155 - mavorick
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that is a double sided sword. what if a "career politician" is very good at his job. but then he cant be re elected again and will probably be replaced by someone who is not very good at all
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#368 to #254 - mavorick
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if we did everything the founding fathers intended, then where would we be?  very small gov't. hell, according to George Washington, we shouldn't have political parties. im not going to pass judgement on whether all their ideas were good.  will pass judgement on whether they are relevant of this time period of a country ocean to ocean with huge ties to the rest of the world. so i wouldn't want your average Joe who doesn't know the system running things at the top of the government. i want someone who knows how government works inside and out, and experience counts for a lot for that
if we did everything the founding fathers intended, then where would we be? very small gov't. hell, according to George Washington, we shouldn't have political parties. im not going to pass judgement on whether all their ideas were good. will pass judgement on whether they are relevant of this time period of a country ocean to ocean with huge ties to the rest of the world. so i wouldn't want your average Joe who doesn't know the system running things at the top of the government. i want someone who knows how government works inside and out, and experience counts for a lot for that
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#168 to #155 - nucularwar
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(01/13/2012) [-]
NOBODY knows how to work with both sides, unfortunately.
#175 to #168 - Alchemyst ONLINE
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#161 - weaslewes
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(01/12/2012) [-]
OP is a Ron Paul hater
#187 to #161 - wightsaw
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#162 to #161 - jamesisawesome
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#64 - rockerrocksixty
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why the **** are we wasting time and pinkies on politics? i honestly don't care in the slightest if obama, romney, or paul win. or anybody else for that matter...except michelle bachmen...she scares the living **** out of me.
#77 to #64 - reaganomix
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Smart people stay out of politics. But then they are at the whim of idiots in government.
#130 to #77 - uptheeirons
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(01/12/2012) [-]
"The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" -Plato
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#1 - inanimateobject
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(01/12/2012) [-]
I don't stay up to date on American politics because I just don't give a ****. Would anyone be willing to take time out of their day to explain to me who Ron Paul is? I could google it, but what are brothers for?
#21 to #1 - anon
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(01/12/2012) [-]
He doesnt believe in separation of church and state.
And to all you christians, no this is a bad thing, nono good.
calls himself scientist and still thinks the earth was made 6000 years ago.
is overrated.
Is against the civil rights act of 1964 wich would have increased freedom for black people and women.

Yuno, casual white collar politician ****.
#22 to #21 - junkerfunny
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(01/12/2012) [-]
He's against the clause that says someone cannot discriminate when choosing to rent a room or house to someone. He believes that people need the right to discriminate. That's how we pick our friends etc. Only the Government shouldn't be allowed to discriminate. He's against taking marriage out of the state. Which would seem to be separating church and state, but maybe that's just me
#2 to #1 - Madblaster
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He the one who's gonna save you from being thrown in jail and not go to court. Just know that for now.
#3 to #2 - inanimateobject
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(01/12/2012) [-]
I'm not American...
#4 to #3 - Madblaster
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(01/12/2012) [-]
Then you want to keep the internet? Look up SOPA. You'll care.
#5 to #4 - inanimateobject
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I already know what SOPA is. I don't know who Ron Paul is....
#6 to #5 - Madblaster
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#23 to #6 - drogon
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Isnt Obama like alright? I mean i know it isnt going so good but thats not neccecairly his fault right?
#156 to #23 - EmperorColo
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Obama bends over backwards for pretty much anyone. He'll sign anything, no matter how stupid it is, as long as the title sounds ok. That alone is terrible.

I won't pretend to be an expert on economy, but under Obama the deficit rose by 4 trillion dollars in about HALF the time it took Bush to, and that's just ******* ludicrous. It may not be all his fault, but he definitely has a big hand in it.
#40 to #23 - ReeferTrees
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His fault or not, he took the position of power in this country. To say that someone who has taken the seat of power is NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS is completely contradictory.
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#19 to #8 - anon
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Ron Paul opposes the civil rights act you dumb bunny. He's a racist nutbar.
#38 to #19 - ReeferTrees
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I assume you say he is a racist because of his opposed stance on Welfare and other Government programs that allow people who have never worked a day in their life to live off of others HARD EARNED money.

To say this is a racist stance is to say that being poor is part of being a minority. You have thus become a racist yourself.

Your argument is invalid, good day.
#108 to #38 - anon
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Hmm you assume i am talking about Paul's opposition to welfare, as opposed to Ron Paul's own racist writing? Why exactly do you associate welfare with racism? Do you have some sort of belief that only minorities benefit from public assistance? It may interest you to know that the majority of people in this country on public assistance are in face caucasian.

Or in other words:
THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT, RACIST
#110 to #108 - ReeferTrees
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(01/12/2012) [-]
*clears throat*

**** you melon muncher XD

But seriously, are you retarded?
#67 to #38 - minecraftforeverv
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No, to presume that anon was talking about racism in relation to benefits was itself racist and the idea that "they're stealing my moneys!!!" is irrelevant. people who deserve the money get the money, there is way more under-claiming than over-claiming

Im britfat and the Welfare Reform act has just been blocked by the house of lords, and good-riddance i say because it was written by right wing nutters like you

Your argument = stupid AND invalid
good day to you too sir :)
#81 to #67 - ReeferTrees
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So what racism was he talking about? Go on, tell me.

I never claimed anyone was stealing, I do believe the money is being distributed quite ignorantly however.

And i'm sure you know so much of the hardships of the lower class in america, being a brit and all.
#84 to #81 - minecraftforeverv
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no but i do know the benefit systems of both countries, being a law graduate who is interested by amerifat policy and politics.

both countries are involved in shocking injustices in relation to benefits (I do pro bono work at tribunals and in benefits claims advisers) and i have dealt with people having no money at all because the government turns them down, for no reason whatsoever, because they don't people to appeal against it .

And i presume anon was talking about the racism in relation to the civil rights movement in the 1960's, like he said.

What's your problem with benefit claimants anyway? Most cant work for valid reasons.

#90 to #84 - ReeferTrees
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I deal with people who have no money also, you know what they do? They look for work, and when they can't get a real job they do whatever handyman job is available in town. You know what happens when they can't get money that way? They go somewhere else, to see if they have work.

They don't beg and cry for money from the government. I'm not talking about people who CAN'T work, i'm talking about people who DON'T work.
#94 to #90 - minecraftforeverv
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most people who are unemployed WANT to work but CANT find jobs because they in themselves are non-existent. people cant work if there is no work about. People cant just move at the drop of a hat, what of family or property or friendship. You don't abandon that to search for a job that probably doesn't exist.

There are VERY few people who refuse to work, and they should be punished justly, but don't punish the majority because of the minority
#96 to #94 - ReeferTrees
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Odd how that sentiment can never be used the other way around.

Currently around 52% of people in America pay taxes. That means there is 48% not paying taxes.

So now the Majority (52%) is being told to carry the weight of the minority (48%) Where is your saying for this?
#100 to #96 - minecraftforeverv
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And out of intrest what is the current unempluyment rate for america? What about the tax bands these people are in? Or maybe even there socio-economic goups?

find these figure, and wherein you will find your answers
#112 to #96 - anon
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Those lucky, lucky people who don't even make enough money to pay federal income taxes, and only have to pay social security, medicare, sales, state, local, property and utility taxes!

Oh if only I could be one of those lucky freeloaders!
#111 to #81 - anon
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I'm talking about the racist rants published under HIS OWN name throughout the 80s and 90s. Racist rants that he defended right up until this current campaign.

Go ahead and google "ron paul's racist newsletters" and get back to me.
#69 to #67 - minecraftforeverv
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(01/12/2012) [-]
I await the red pinkies :)