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No Guns.

My next door neighbor
wants to BAN ALL GUNS!
Their house is
NOT ARMED!
Dot of respect for their opinions I promise NOT
to use hilt GUNS to protect THEM!
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#158 - zanekin (10/14/2011) [-]
Your house has trips?
******* win
#157 - plurality (10/14/2011) [-]
**plurality rolled a random image** his neighbor
#156 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
**anonymous rolls 865** haha their house number is triples.
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#152 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
my best friend's mom makes $77 an hour on the computer. She has been out of job for 9 months but last month her check was $7487 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read about it here LazyCash4 DOT com
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User avatar #149 - BlahDude (10/14/2011) [-]
*sigh
User avatar #155 to #149 - selectyour (10/14/2011) [-]
do you have comment that on EVERY post?
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#144 - weavedog (10/14/2011) [-]
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#140 - furyofthestorm (10/14/2011) [-]
**furyofthestorm rolled a random image** <-----related ------> Rape them
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#96 - nicesprites (10/14/2011) [-]
reminded me of Gran Torino for some reason...
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**salamk rolled a random image** Ban All the Things
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User avatar #83 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
In all honesty I'd high five the owner of this house if this sign was real. Anyone who wants to ban guns is absolutely ******* insane and clearly lacks any semblance of logic. It is IMPOSSIBLE to remove/destroy every last gun within the United States, let alone half of them. They could easily be smuggled from out of country as well as home-made. Further, even if such a pipe dream were possible, do people honestly believe that would curb crime? Criminals already use everyday objects to commit crimes, so instead of being shot you'd get to suffer a more lovely painful death by sharp objects or blunt trauma. I could go on a huge spiel and I didn't mean to belch out this paragraph but it just boggles my mind how many people I've talked to are brainwashed into the whole "GUNS R EVIL!" mindset.
User avatar #154 to #83 - captainbackslash (10/14/2011) [-]
While banning guns is impossible, I feel that applying sensible restrictions on gun ownership should be the case always. At least that'll limit the amount of untrained people who have access to guns. Guns aren't really made for protection and, in any case, function badly as such. You'll just end up shooting your family instead. The best protection is properly to get the **** away from the assailant and believe that that's what the police would recommend.
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User avatar #169 to #165 - captainbackslash (10/15/2011) [-]
I do see your point though I have no way of knowing if your numbers are right.
I still believe that there better means of protection; means that decreases the risk of death massively. And I would still say that the priority in the production of firearms is to make something that hurt people and by that the protection that follows by doing so. Of course there's firearms made for sport or show. Used to shoot for targets myself.
The example with the 6-foot-3, 250-pound violent criminal (!!!), that for some reason often pop in these kind of discussions always gives me a bad taste in my mouth. Both the view on people it expresses and the idea that, that kind of situation only can be dealt with in the manner of firearms. I could also come with a counter example where the assailant takes the gun away from and uses it to shoot you. Doesn't really provide an argument when saying "what if..?". As I wrote earlier I believe there're much more effective, yet less lethal, means of protection.
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User avatar #171 to #170 - captainbackslash (10/16/2011) [-]
I believe we pretty much agree with eachother. I would just prefer to use self-defense equipment. Both because I don't wish to hurt others, or that they use it to kill me or my loved ones.
In your last line you say that people who'd become a danger with firearms shouldn't be allowed access to them, and that's pretty much what I support. In the country I live the law dictates that you need to be member of a club or assosiation (like the one I used to be a member of where I went target shooting), where you get training in the use of firearms and if you have a record of crime, you can't legally own a firearm.
I grew up in a home with no firearms or other means of protection (other than a lock on the frontdoor (with the big glass window in it, which is pretty odd actually)), and that might be why I would prefer other means of protection.
As for the view-on-people-thing it's solely an emotional opinion. It makes me uncomfortable, when one views strangers with fear and distrust and that you need a gun to shoot that stranger who's out there somewhere just waiting to attack me. But of course there're violent people and there have always been. Again it has properly something to do with my upbringing.
#137 to #83 - adamks ONLINE (10/14/2011) [-]
American citizens are unrealisticly stupid.Thinking that guns help them to be more safe. No matter what, you cant get all guns destroyed, you can nowhere, but at least make the country a bit more safe.
#168 to #137 - anonymous (10/15/2011) [-]
Durr Amerikanz R dumb, lulz!

Jeez can you guys get any more predictable. Here's the thing, England has more violent crime per capita than the US does (85.5 per 1,000 as opposed to 80), and they have some of the strictest gun rules around, but LETS IGNORE THAT because I know a place with MORE violent crime per capita and stricter control.

Lets talk penitentiaries. You know, that place that's monitored by law enforcement 24/7, on lockdown, with no weapons of any type allowed. Yeah that place. Sounds like it'd be safe right? OH **** ! That's right, VERY violent place that you don't want to be. Hell even home-made guns make it in there.

And that's a place with a high-law enforcement saturation, not the dwindling saturation that exists on the street.

Fact of the matter is, Supreme Court ruled that law enforcement is NOT for your protection (Bell v. Thompson, No. 04-514). Law enforcement is the clean up organization that scrubs your blood and guts off the walls of what was once your home. No you're responsible for your OWN protection.

And this is totally neglecting the corruption rate of police, which is ALSO rather high.
User avatar #141 to #137 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
I am sorry to hear that you are resorting to insults and are also among the handful of people here who need to learn how to look at the bigger picture.
Also, while I agree that plenty of my fellow American citizens can be quite stupid, I do not consider myself among them. Guns are a valuable asset in the right hands and very important for protecting one's self from enemies both foreign and domestic.
#151 to #141 - adamks ONLINE (10/14/2011) [-]
They are not, leave lethal weapons to the authorities, no reason for normal people to be that afraid, if you have a gun and the one who rob you have a gun, you are not more safe than if none of you did, acctually you would probarly be more safe without the guns.
#145 to #141 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
No doubt good sir.
Firstly, of course you don't Ive yet to meet a guy who admits to being an idiot.
Second, true. guns can protect people when in the right hands. But the problem occurs when it comes into the wrong hands, and that seems to happen all too often in America don't you think.
My country has strict gun control. Like. really. no guns. unless you're a soldier/policemen, you'll go your whole life without ever seeing one. And so far, we've never had any incidents (bank shootouts, crazed gunmen, gunpoint robbery, kids shooting themselves accidentally) that seem to occur so often in the USA. like. never. literally.
Sure, people can use other objects to kill each other, but it makes it that much harder. The victim can still defend himself. I'd also like to bring up the fact that we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world.
I admits the USA is a pretty big country, so gun control may be harder to carry out, but i'm still quite positive the world would be better off without em. But in the end, it's your country. You guys suffer the danger/consequences. I don't. So all i can do is hope my country's government keeps this **** up.
User avatar #146 to #145 - stukka (10/14/2011) [-]
Which country are you from?
#162 to #146 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
singapore.
User avatar #167 to #162 - stukka (10/14/2011) [-]
Fair enough. Cancelled out your red thumb - not sure why someone would thumb you down because of where you're from.
User avatar #134 to #83 - stukka (10/14/2011) [-]
The people that do damage with guns (armed robbery, ****** etc) wouldn't care about a law banning guns anyway. Here, only some of the police and some of the criminals have guns and although we have a lower gun death rate here, I'm not sure we're truly any safer.
#130 to #83 - tjmwatton (10/14/2011) [-]
you are massively missing the point and massively right wing and it will be impossible for anyone to ever encounter a real dialogue with you and in an unrelated note, you will probably die alone. of blunt trauma. good.
User avatar #138 to #130 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
Ironically enough I am actually a Neo-liberal, placing me left-of-center. I just happen to use logic and rationale rather than sensationalism to support my decision on allowing responsible citizens to own and protect themselves with firearms. But thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to insult me and wish me my imminent demise!
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#136 to #111 - stukka (10/14/2011) [-]
Guns don't kill people, wrappers do.
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#94 to #83 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
well considering that the USA has a higher ****** rate then almost every single country where guns are illegal i think it would probebly be a good idea to illegalise guns there

and dont give me any **** about oh but you wont get rid of all the guns because in britain guns are illegal and the usa has a far greater number of guns per head then we do not to mention gun crime rate
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User avatar #110 to #94 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
The first thing you should do is take a look at the USA's population and compare it to every country. If you were to apply a basic rate of "1 death per 100,000 people" to both countries then you would find that the United States would obviously be higher by the sheer population.

Secondly, you need to learn that whether guns are illegal or not are only a tiny piece of the puzzle, as I explained to powerfrog. Why does everyone fail to take into account that a stronger presence of racism, poor quality of living, failure to teach one's children even the basic principles of human decency, and the rampant sense of self-entitlement are what causes people to commit crimes in the first place?! News flash! Happy, well-behaved people don't go around on killing sprees with guns! All you people see are "guns killed X number of people therefore we must ban them so no one dies!" instead of "half the ******* country is either morally bankrupt or in self-survival mode so they're using whatever they can get their hands as weapons and stealing and killing!".

I can promise you, crime and ****** rates in the USA wouldn't budge an inch even if we outlawed guns in all 50 states, because guns aren't the underlying problem here, ITS THE PEOPLE. Guns are tools, just like knives and sharpened pencils, but i don't see you squealing "EEEVILL!" over ******* caused by knives and everyday objects.
#119 to #110 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
if you count crime rate as it should be per capita then population numbers mean nothing as you have written the crime is counted per 100.000 therefore americas larger population does'nt come into it
as for reasons such as racism you are correct that the people comiting the crimes are the real reason that such things happen not the guns but the simple fact that guns are so readily available means it is far easyer for these people to commit these crimes
britain has its fair share of bigots haters and racists but we have a lower crime rate because the tools to commit the crimes are far harder to come by
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#120 to #117 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
thats where your wrong
these studies that you speak of were carried out when the potential criminal had easy acces eto guns. if guns were illegalised the criminal would be far less likely to have a gun
using cases where the residents simply choose not to have a gun where the criminals of the area can legaly carry them is just corrupted research
if you want to find out how illegalising guns would affect the country accuretly look at other countries where guns are illegal and you will find that they all have a lower crime rate
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#92 to #83 - titsshallberound (10/14/2011) [-]
UHH.. i wanted badly to comment a counter argument to that post, but cleary you already got raped by the first tree comments to it, so i just let it ignore.
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User avatar #100 to #85 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
Consider this: England has a population of 51,000,000.
The United States has a population of 307,006,550. Our population is nearly 6 times greater. Going by just that alone, would you not assume that our crime rate would be higher based on simple math?
One would assume based on that principle alone, we should be worse off right? Well looky here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7922755/England-has-w orse-crime-rate-than-the-US-says-Civitas-study.html
England's crime rate, worse.

Further, you fall for the same trap many other people do: you confuse correlation with causation. Having more or less guns is only a tiny piece of the overall puzzle. The biggest influencing factor is the culture itself. A disgustingly large portion of my country FAILS miserably at even basic human decency. Removing guns will only punish the decent and responsible citizens. Criminals will still be criminals without them, and again if the police can get their hands on firearms you can guarantee criminals will too.

I must admit, the "handheld death machines" bit never stops being humorous. Guns are tools, just like knives and sharpened pencils. All are capable of killing in the wrong hands, yet you fear and only want to ban guns. Amazing display of selective judgement.

Further, your assumptions on criminal minds are rather naive. A criminal is far more likely to use lethal force simply by you being around rather than hiding in a room, assuming it's a petty burglar. Violent rapists and ********* however are a different breed entirely, they are prone to killing whether or not you resist them.

I'm not sure how old you are but I suspect even if you're my age (22) or older, you have been shown only the brighter side of life and constantly bombarded by the media into believing "guns are only for killing" and "police are always on your side and can handle all the bad guys" when neither are true.
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User avatar #115 to #107 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
A gun is built for two things: self defense and hunting animals. That is the intended purpose of firearms. Just because people misuse them doesn't mean you ban them, it doesn't solve the issue. The underlying problem are the PEOPLE themselves. A gun doesn't automagically turn a person into a psychopath and put voices into their head telling them to kill, they are already willing to commit crimes or kill. Banning guns is simply applying a bandage to a damn dismembered limb; the real problem isn't solved.
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#93 to #85 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
Yes because crime is caused by guns right? Total rubbish. Those that are inclined to commit crimes can source guns and other weapons regardless of any ban. A criminal should not be stealing anyones belongings or tresspassing in the first place. You go on to ******** about how they are likely to use lethal force on you if they perceive you as a threat. What so now they're some wild animal? Pull your head out of your ass, if they break into you home then they deserve whats coming to them, point is they shouldnt ******* be there in the first place. Don't make excuses for this **** , they give up thier rights when they willingly cause harm and disruption to others. You are probably into political correctness. Anyone with thier brain switched on would know it's a load of cock. Infact political correctness has kept racism alive an well, and it gives ******* crooks rights, it also stops you from properly defending yourself because the poor darling crooks might get hurted. and don give any **** about tough upbringings, or cant get work because of whatever piss-poor excuse, because thats all it is.

**** it thats enough, no ones reading mah **** anyway
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User avatar #118 to #101 - cybertoyger (10/14/2011) [-]
Upon skimming over this massive wall of a thread I noticed my name in a reply not made to me. I'm afraid that anonymous isn't me, I've been signed in this entire time replying to other people :/
I may use swear words sparingly but I don't resort to flaming people like he/she did.
#97 to #93 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
you say those inclined to comit crimes would be able to source guns regardless of a ban and you are probebly correct however the number of criminals willing to risk that would be far lower then the number who would have guns without a ban
america has one of the highest gun crime rates in the world in fact if you look at the statistics every country that has legalised guns has a far higher gun crime rate then those in which guns are illegal
the simple fact that guns are easyer to get means more criminals have accese to them
#108 to #97 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
guns and other weapons. The point is that instead of getting a gun pulled on you it will be a knife or you 'll get king hit or somthing. The threat doesnt go away and the crooks know your not likely to have a means to defend yourself.
#116 to #108 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
you're right there criminals whould just use other forms of weapon such as knifes but it is far easyer to defend or flee from a knife then a gun as a result ****** rates mugging rates and general crime is lower in countrys like britain where guns are illegal then in countrys like the USA where they arnt
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#114 to #106 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
if you think that the availability of guns "always" lowers the crime rate iv got some bad news for you
you are retarded
look at the global statistics the countriys which have legalised guns have far higher ****** rates and general gun crime rates so sort out your facts before you spread stupidity
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#91 to #85 - DangerToManifold (10/14/2011) [-]
i'm from england and i agree with this to some extent but here i am not even allowed to carry around the likes of pepper spray or a baton, i'm a grocery delivery driver in some really rough areas and i the most i can protect myself with is the maglight where as most of the idiots that start trouble are carrying knives

i think the law needs amending for people who genuinely need protection, for instance, i think the securicor drivers should be armed
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#98 to #91 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
battons and pepper spray arnt illegal here m8
i know they are hard to get but they arnt illegal you are allowed to carry them
#99 to #98 - DangerToManifold (10/14/2011) [-]
they are, the baton is 100%, ive got one and i looked into carrying it but it just isnt allowed

apparently anything that serves no other purpose than to cause harm is illegal and classed as an offensive weapon
#104 to #99 - bigmanblue (10/14/2011) [-]
you could probebly substitute somthing else then
shouldnt be to hard to find a similiar shaped object :)
User avatar #89 to #85 - selafyn (10/14/2011) [-]
Support for great justice. Have a statistic...

In the US there are 15.22 fatalities due to guns per 100,000 people. I'd hope that guy can do the maths, but maybe he can't so i will do it for him, US population is 307 million. That makes about 46,725 deaths a year due to guns.
In the UK it is 0.4 per 100,000. that is 280 deaths.

BUT WAIT theres more. out of that 0.4, 0.33 is suicide, 0.07 is homicide. so about 5 people a year are ******** with guns.

Ofcourse, i am clearly a brainwashed person... As opposed to having a different opinion to OP.
#102 to #89 - anonymous (10/14/2011) [-]
It's clearly because of the guns and not the poeple using them
User avatar #127 to #102 - selafyn (10/14/2011) [-]
The gun presents the oppurtunity.

Either america has nearly 10,000 times as many psychopaths as the UK or guns are helping a bit.. i mean in the words of eddie izzard

'Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Well, let's be honest. the gun helps. I mean pointing at someone and going boom rattatatatata boom bang booom is unlikely to kill them'
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