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#1 - heartlesschaos

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(09/16/2012)[-]

Katana are not meant to butcher, they are meant to be used to slash through flesh and meat. An experienced user (or anyone who has read a little about them) knows that the primary part of the blade meant for use is around the tip :/ I really wish they wouldn't have wasted it like that and just shipped it to someone who wanted it...Still thumbed you up because you have nothing to do with their stupidity and it's a pretty obvious result.

#3 to #1 - madred

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(09/16/2012)[-]

I am ashamed... i just saw that it is even from a german tv show. Trying to be informative but actually never reaching the niveua of a sesame street for adults...

anyways: There is no way the katana could have "won", cause the sword is fixed to a table or something solid. It doesnt take much to know that it is only a little bit of physics.

#4 to #3 - heartlesschaos

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(09/16/2012)[-]

I wonder if anyone noticed that even though it was fixed on the table and the blade was used incorrectly, The sword still received a clean cut. :/

#5 to #4 - madred

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(09/16/2012)[-]

The Katana is the gentleman of all blades. If i was to choose between sword and katana... swiftness before power.

#11 to #5 - truemox

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(09/17/2012)[-]

The katana is a brutal weapon. It's perfectly engineerd, but it's not meant for anything other than power strokes to behead/cleave an opponent.
If you can find a real (not that wushu ****) chinese jian, you'd have a more graceful sword. The jians are meant to be used with long, circular strokes and quick, fatal stabbing attacks.
If a katana is a tiger, the jian is a serpent.

#13 to #5 - anon id: ff2d2937

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Jian > all swords ever
Chinese martial arts > any other martial art

#387 to #13 - saladtongsofdeath

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(09/17/2012)[-]

**saladtongsofdeath rolled a random image posted in comment #49 at I think art students have given up ** "lets use a jian as the main character's primary wepon" said no writer ever

#308 to #13 - henkstr

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(09/17/2012)[-]

#12 to #5 - anon id: c55f07f7

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(09/17/2012)[-]

The rapier is the gentleman of blades. It's a dueling and fencing blade.

#6 to #5 - heartlesschaos

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(09/16/2012)[-]

Amen :3

#571 to #4 - jouten#280 on commentsRank#280

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(10/17/2013)[-]

They actually just wanted to disprove the Hollywood myth that Katanas can cut other swords.

Also that small cut isn't really that impressive

#373 to #1 - tulioandmiguel

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#22 to #1 - zgbgydug

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Wasn't really that bad of a hit, a katana should make contact about a third of the way down the blade. I'm surprised it snapped though, I would have guessed that it simply would have bounced off with a gash in it

#265 - itsmypenis**User deleted account**

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#270 to #265 - harleyzone

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(09/17/2012)[-]

when I was a little kid tv shows on swords were one of the few "view able" things on the history and discovery channels

#271 to #270 - itsmypenis**User deleted account**

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#278 to #271 - harleyzone

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(09/17/2012)[-]

I watched those shows too. there was a lot of viewable stuff, but for kids it's usually either sharp pointy things, guns that shoot sharp pointy things, scary animals, or dinosaurs. I liked shows on ancient egypt, if it weren't for the political collapse over there I would probably be in college for an Egyptology degree right now.

#406 - whatamidoingwithme

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Katana is an overrated weapon. If you can't hit the enemy with it, eg; they parry, block or wear heavy plate, you are going to break it.

I really hate when they show it as the superior of the superior of the superior swords. When a scimitar or kilij is just better off in a combat, or a rapier in a duel.

I blame the anime for it. Let the thumb downs ban me.

#423 to #406 - wheresthefudge

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(09/17/2012)[-]

I'd go for a smallsword instead of a rapier in terms of a duel, but whatevs.

#429 to #423 - anon id: d714f4a0

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Eh i'd go for a rapier. Quick and light attacks. Fairly easy for the opponant to block whatever you do but if you have a sheild you can easily get around defence. ^-^ But if it was just a duel and you only had a single weapon...yeah... I would say a shortsword would be better than one that could not block well. Dodging only works for so long. ^^

#432 to #429 - wheresthefudge

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(09/17/2012)[-]

I believe you misunderstand, anon.
The smallsword was a dueling weapon which evolved from the italian rapier. In comparison, it lost a lot of the extra weight and flamboyance that was inherent in rapier design. Several armies still use the smallsword as a decorative or dress weapon.
The weapon you're thinking of is a shortsword which would have been made of bronze or iron and was out of use by the time that dueling was common. They're sometimes referred to as "hand-and-a-half" swords due to their relatively small size (which was due to the softness of the metals and forging techniques).

#416 to #406 - nitrofire

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Finally someone thinks the same as I do. Thank you for pointing that out good sir.

#415 to #406 - metajunky

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(09/17/2012)[-]

well i am more partial to heavy cavalry sabers myself though

#461 to #415 - whatamidoingwithme

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Saber is a kilij design. Made for cavalry. I was talking about infantry.

#464 to #461 - metajunky

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(09/17/2012)[-]

just like how it looks too. it is like the sword of the wild west

#410 to #406 - iessimon

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(09/17/2012)[-]

on the contrary i agree with you

#527 to #406 - mrdivdiv

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(09/17/2012)[-]

I do agree that scimmy's or kilij are better, except i the case of Zoro from one piece. Also I think katana's look more badass unless its the dragon scimmy from runescape.

#476 to #406 - beerterror

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Sure I'd go for a lightsaber. But katana is made to be used in a specific way and against specific targets.

After all, standard European longsword, 1,5 handed, seem to be the most diverse of swords. But swords aren't the best slashing melee weapons, and such are not the best melee weapons. I'd prefer medium size axes, arabic scimitars, or Chinese-designed swords with many fancy assets, that katana or European swords never had.

#434 to #406 - anaklusmos

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(09/17/2012)[-]

i personally like the galdius or maybe a claymore.

#542 to #434 - whatamidoingwithme

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(09/18/2012)[-]

Heavily curved weapons such as scimitar are better in combat because it is hard to block or parry them, even if you do you still are pretty much overwhelmed. Kilij is slightly curved and most work with counterweight principle. They deal a deadly blow.

When it is in combat, it is not a duel really. It was medieval ages, people just hacked, pierced and slashed whatever it was on their way.

#38 - Shotgoat

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Post gif about breaking swords, everyone becomes weapon specialist

#110 to #38 - daentraya

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Well, look at how wrong it is. Its a slashdash blade, not a block and thrust

#277 to #38 - xnotcreative

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Well... you don't really need to be a weapons specialist to know about this kinda stuff. It's just kinda common sense.

I don't know much about history in general, but I do know that in the feudal era in Japan, they didn't really wear that heavy of an armour. They wore stuff to keep them cool in the hot temperature, as to where in the medieval era in Europe, they would wear heavy ass armour.

I'm pretty sure the weapon made to kill people in iron armour would be much more durable, compared to the weapon that was just made to cut down people quickly.

#104 - ShadeElement

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(09/17/2012)[-]

You really can't can't CAN'T do a general comparison between a Japanese "Katana" and a European Broadsword.

WHY?
Two reasons:

1.) Different tools for different jobs. Comparing a Katana to a Broadsword is like comparing a Sports Car to a 4x4. Put the two next to each other on a race track, and the Sports Car will appear far superior. However try taking both off road and see which seems better. You're trying to compare apples to oranges.

2. When it comes to quality and performance of a blade, just like with cars, it all depended on who made it. Sword smiths (Both Euro and Japanese) were artisans. Some were masters of their art, others not so much. Some specialized in mass producing, others crafted one blade at a time, sometimes taking years to fulfill a commission. Also, crafting a sword was a bit like making wine. It all depends on the quality of the materials available at the time. Smiths back then weren't metallurgists, Chemists, or Engineers. They knew what worked, but they didn't know WHY or HOW it worked. So there were lots of random factors beyond their control. So even with the same smith, the quality of their blades could vary dramatically from sword to sword.

So basically the age old debate of European vs Japanese swords is pointless. Even if you were to compare specific blades, (for example The River Witham Sword vs. Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi) you would struggle to find a fair comparison between the two, as both were developed in entirely different environments for entirely different uses.

#119 to #104 - BroadSword

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(09/17/2012)[-]

This whole discussion of weaponry has given me soooo many notifications.

#132 to #104 - lolzordz

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(09/17/2012)[-]

#139 to #104 - PlagueDoctor

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(09/17/2012)[-]

kusanagi-no-tsurugi is not a katana

#500 to #139 - ShadeElement

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Actually, its unclear what specific type of Japanese sword it was...or whether it ever even existed at all. I was simply naming the first Japanese blade that came to mind for comparison purposes.

#522 to #500 - PlagueDoctor

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Okay

#131 to #104 - souldere**User deleted account**

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#336 - lazypaul

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Almost every comment is some ****** acting like they are an expert on swords just because they've seen an episode of ******* naruto.

#350 to #336 - patmccrow

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Being someone who has applied literally thousands of hours into sword fighting, against hundreds of different opponents from all over the world... I must say that, that it is quite near the epitome of my pet peeves.

#454 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#481 to #454 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

It's nice to see you at least creddited where someone else in the comments mentioned it.
Have some furries playing video games in return (this is one of my favourite pictures ever.)

#574 to #481 - anon id: a18f9dd1

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(07/10/2016)[-]

Where did you get this image from?

#490 to #481 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#495 to #490 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

you kidding me? The only reason I still have this picture is because that one comic is rip with reaction images.

#499 to #495 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#507 to #499 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

You know when you say things in your head and it sounds good, and then you say it and it sounds retarded?
yeah.

#457 to #454 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

you blinded me with science , let me return the favor (sort off)
- you are getting sleepy , your blind!

#459 to #457 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#463 to #459 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

i might have used a to powerful gif for your feeble mind....

#467 to #463 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#473 to #467 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

...........i read a **** load of manga but i have never seen this , and i am pretty happy about that. oh well have a nice evening random internet stranger

#480 to #473 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#493 to #480 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

not my cup off tea , my tip for you is : www.mangareader.net/girls-of-the-wilds

#497 to #493 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#498 to #497 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

i guess we are to different my foxy friend, lets see if we can find some thing we both read
. because i am bored and this will eat some time.

what kind of manga do you like?

#501 to #498 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#503 to #501 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

i like alot of different manga mostly shounen fight manga (like HSDK ) , but some shoujo as well (favorit is fruitbasket)
my all time favorit is manga Hellsing (it dosent get more sennin than that)

#505 to #503 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#523 to #505 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

in that case you should try reading fruits basket and ouran high school host club.
lets not get stuck in a demograph , after all you are a brony right?

#528 to #523 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#545 to #528 - danielesq

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(09/18/2012)[-]

#543 to #528 - danielesq

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(09/18/2012)[-]

thank you for that seizure i always wanted to piss my self

#487 to #480 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

alrighty then mangafox here i come (using mangafox to celebrate your name)

#477 to #457 - Mozzak

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(09/17/2012)[-]

you're*

#479 to #477 - danielesq

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(09/17/2012)[-]

#384 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

To all the people whining the Katana lost, it's common ******* sense.
When the Katana was built, armor was not an issue. Armies would literally fight in wood, rope, and bamboo armor for minimal protection from ARROWS. Melee fighting was skill based, one reason why armor would've slowed down the combat on one side. But then you look at the Longsword and realize it was designed to puncture and slice through plate and scale armors, things Japan and China had never heard of at the time. Katana's were good for slicing through flesh in 1 on 1 combat, but would fail if brought up against any form of protection from Europe.
They were both great swords for their era, and great swords for their area, but in the end, the Longsword was designed to do more than slice through flesh.

#404 to #384 - smokedmeatlog

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(09/17/2012)[-]

very true BUT bamboo is actually stronger than steel, especially when treated with oil like that from the tung tree, so the Katana still had to be sturdy and very very sharp.

#408 to #404 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

>bamboo is stronger than steel
Then why do they use steel machetes to cut it down?

#413 to #408 - smokedmeatlog

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(09/17/2012)[-]

i don't know that in depth about it, all i do know is that in terms of compression and tension, bamboo is stronger than steel.

#417 to #413 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Bamboo can't stand up to steel wielded by a swordsman.
Steel doesn't stand up to steel when you're using swords.

#422 to #417 - smokedmeatlog

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(09/17/2012)[-]

well than, i have learned something today.

#428 to #413 - bloodyfox**User deleted account**

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#412 to #408 - pizzapastasaurous

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(09/17/2012)[-]

HAH.

#395 to #384 - patmccrow

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(09/17/2012)[-]

You, you actually get it... I'm honestly amazed that there is anyone else on this site with that sort of esoteric knowledge.

#396 to #395 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

I've wielded them. You can tell from the balance and weight of the blades what they're made to do.
Like the Scottish claymore or Zweihander. It was made to cut through multiple people with no extra effort. You can tell from the awkward balancing, but you can still swing it fine.

#402 to #396 - patmccrow

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(09/17/2012)[-]

Being a swordsmen for the past eight years I thoroughly appreciate seeing someone who understands what it is they are meant to do, and how they do it.

#427 to #402 - sirformidio

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(09/17/2012)[-]

I still prefer the Rapier personally. I will fill you full of ******* holes.