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#133 - rakuuj
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#130 - serterazi
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(02/13/2014) [-]
He even has look-alikes.
#124 - daentraya
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(02/13/2014) [-]
Well, i suppose i will finish those three drawings i have lying on my desk..
#123 - daentraya
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People who don’t work hard don’t have the right to be envious of the people with talent. People fail because they don’t understand the hard work necessary to be successful.
Yukino *********** (My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU)
#131 to #123 - calyptus
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The Hard-Work fallacy is one of the most dangerious fallacies in existence as it creates an unfalsifiable framework, when it's perfectly explained in psychology by the attribution effect.
#132 to #131 - daentraya
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I would hardly say it's dangerous. In by far the most cases, hard work can achieve great results in skills like art and maths (art being the subject of this thread). If you have a functioning brain without serious disorder, you possess the ability to learn.
I posted it here to back up Bob Rosses comments; dont just say 'ooh i will never be as good as you sadface i should just put down my pencil Ive actually seen this type of comment on the odd art video ', just ******* try and throw yourself into it; with hard work and dedication, you too can do art
#155 to #132 - calyptus
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Again, attribution effect. Google it.

#156 to #155 - daentraya
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Shall we just throw fallacies at each other? I havent bothered to memorize them, but I'm pretty sure there is a name for 'dude who just learned a bunch of fallacies and now uses it against everything thinking he is now in the right'. Well, having a specific word isnt what counts here; you are that guy anyway.
lesswrong.com/lw/he/knowing_about_biases_can_hurt_people/ but googling is easy, so you can take it from here without my guidance
#157 to #156 - calyptus
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No, as I've presented you the observable cause of the fallacy prestented, not the fallacy itself.

And I'm fully aware anti-populism can hurt what you say, but here's the problem: I don't really care. I care about what's true.
#158 to #157 - daentraya
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And here is what relevant; I dont care about the finer details of fallacies in a motivational quote, i care about what it inspires in the people who read it.

So go around and demolish everything motivational; just about all of them can either be counteracted with this <-- or be plucked to pieces. I kinda doubt you'll achieve anything useful, though. Pick your battles, Truth Crusader; it's worthy motivation.
For everyone else; Do art if you want to.

Theres a fine point to the whole truth thing. While i sorta cherish the whole 'that which can be destroyed by truth should be', i still find it unnecessary in this case. It's a fact that anyone with some movable appendage can do art. Would you care to amend your statement, since this little fact is the point of this whole thing?
#159 to #158 - calyptus
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"And here is what relevant; I dont care about the finer details of fallacies in a motivational quote, i care about what it inspires in the people who read it. "

Which is why we disagree.

Oh and I don't really care about art, as I see no objective way of measuring it.

I do care if you say math is hard work, when I pick my nose with universitary level mathematics, while I teach others who have the hardest time passing the basic courses, and they still fail. I don't like it, but it's the prime example of the hard-work fallacy.

#160 to #159 - daentraya
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What I'm trying to get at is that arguing here is pointless, since the only point there is, is that anyone can do ******* art, and shouldn't feel jealous if they havent even tried.   
you can realize just about anything you can visualize, once you get the technical skills down, and that is often fairly simple stuff. Simple believe and stay at it, and dont ever loose hope    
I dislike having arguments that are utterly pointless, and I'm trying to get you to say, 'This quote was indeed motivational, and this context meant to convey a truth, and i will now stop this argument and leave it at that'.  I have a stupid need for wrapping things up like that, so please just say that we're both right
What I'm trying to get at is that arguing here is pointless, since the only point there is, is that anyone can do ******* art, and shouldn't feel jealous if they havent even tried.
you can realize just about anything you can visualize, once you get the technical skills down, and that is often fairly simple stuff. Simple believe and stay at it, and dont ever loose hope
I dislike having arguments that are utterly pointless, and I'm trying to get you to say, 'This quote was indeed motivational, and this context meant to convey a truth, and i will now stop this argument and leave it at that'. I have a stupid need for wrapping things up like that, so please just say that we're both right
#112 - kingderps
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(02/13/2014) [-]
Boss Rob post? **** yeah I'll green thumb this ****.
#164 to #112 - anon
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(02/14/2014) [-]
Thumbs up this red thumb away on my comment if you like Bob Ross. Who ever thumbed down me for this comment can suck a dick.
#108 - robbyarcane
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(02/13/2014) [-]
this thread is amazing
#114 to #108 - anon
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(02/13/2014) [-]
"thread"
#104 - wildberk
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(02/13/2014) [-]
No matter how hard you practice, you can never be a real stig
#81 - frostbeard
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(02/13/2014) [-]
Well thanks Bob, that's nice of you.
#80 - karlKroenen
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(02/13/2014) [-]
Bob Ross Painting

If you haven't seen this, you're missing out.
Happy little bodies, rotting in the sun.
#76 - atrocitustheking
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(02/13/2014) [-]
I have been saying this for years, and it's nice to see a famous, cool person like Bob Ross agree with me.
#102 to #76 - wobblyloo
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(02/13/2014) [-]
youre agreeing with him,not the other way around
#74 - slapchoppin
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(02/13/2014) [-]
talent is more natural and skill is something you need to work for

otherwise the saying "hard work beats talent when talent refuses to work hard" doesn't make sense
#71 - chism
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(02/13/2014) [-]
not always true
#44 - lionti
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(02/13/2014) [-]
Oh Bob you do know exactly what to say
#43 - cactusphalus
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(02/13/2014) [-]
This guy's voice was so soothing
#18 - include
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(02/13/2014) [-]
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#10 - littlepolski
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(02/12/2014) [-]
Supposedly Talent is overrated and with enough hard work and practice you can be as good as someone who is naturally talented.

though to reach elite levels it will supposedly take 10,000 hours. K. Anders Ericsson and Geoff Colvin have written on this subject.

Just in case any of you fellow FJers felt that you'd missed the boat on that dream of yours.
#3 - nemoilily
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(02/12/2014) [-]
his hair is magic
#1 - whatdafuq
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#88 - kdtreyfive
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(02/13/2014) [-]
PRACTICE?
#46 - pollepolle
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(02/13/2014) [-]
but why gif?