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#671 - vanityfair (02/25/2014) [-]
The chances of even incredibly simple life (just basic single celled organisms) being created by pure chance out of nowhere is incredibly unlikely, even through billions of years of random change in the Earth.

The chance there are aliens which are highly advanced beyond our comprehension is very likely given the amount of planets and galaxies ect...

Therefore isn't it far more likely that basic life was put here by one of them visiting Earth than it just appearing on Earth via pure chance?
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User avatar #711 to #671 - drastronomy (02/26/2014) [-]
Why can it not be pure chance? The universe is fucking huge
User avatar #693 to #671 - djequalizee (02/26/2014) [-]
Well, complex life is a lot more unlikely than simple life. And basic life, though it be unlikely, is still possible through random chance.

But i don't doubt that we were put here bu something else
User avatar #680 to #671 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2014) [-]
Also abiogenesis was not at all random by pure chance. Even the transition of very simple molecules to single celled organisms is a very gradual change that didn't just happen spontaneous.
User avatar #679 to #671 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2014) [-]
Evolution is not a random process. The genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all. The survival and reproductive success of an individual is directly related to the ways its inherited traits function in the context of its local environment. Whether or not an individual survives and reproduces depends on whether it has genes that produce traits that are well adapted to its environment.

Furthermore you're shooting yourself in the foot, how do you think these more intelligent aliens would've gotten so intelligent and complex in the first place? They need to have evolved themself.
User avatar #694 to #679 - djequalizee (02/26/2014) [-]
But a highly evolved species creating different species isn't unlikely. Maybe they put simple life here as an experiment.
User avatar #697 to #694 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2014) [-]
I never said it's unlikely, but the highly evolved species had to come from somewhere. If they could've been evolved from simple molecules then so should we.
User avatar #698 to #697 - djequalizee (02/26/2014) [-]
I agree with you there. Also, you mentioned that evolution is not "random chance". While that is true in some aspects, when you look at it objectively it IS a bit random depending on the variables. If we lived on a hotter planet, then we would evolve accordingly. I guess you could say that the evolution isn't random, but the situation in which it takes place is. Intelligent life is a good example of this, because the only reason it exists is because it was a rational course of evolution at the time. It's also why it took so long for intelligent life to exist, if at all. Other animals didn't need larger brains because they didn't apply to the current situation at the time, which involved how it interacted with other species and the world around it. This is why animals like Alligators have existed since prehistoric times and have never become intelligent. Yet we, relatively new life forms, have become intelligent in a relatively short amount of time Though i'm guessing you knew most of this. But other people can read it as well if they want. . So in many ways, evolution is a bit random. Just not in the same way other things are.
User avatar #678 to #671 - doctorhue (02/25/2014) [-]
The chance of one planet having life is slim. The chance of no planet having life is 0. You saying the chance that there are aliens further proves how likely it is that life will happen by pure chance.

The chance of some "god" creating life, against all laws we know, is basically 0, tho it is theoretically possible for aliens to have done that.
User avatar #673 to #671 - subtard ONLINE (02/25/2014) [-]
How can basic life be unlikely but super advanced aliens be super likely?
#674 to #673 - vanityfair (02/25/2014) [-]
Basic per planet is unlikely, but considering the obscene amounts of planets in all the galaxies of the universe it's really a statistical certainty that many alien species exist and some are incredibly advanced.
User avatar #675 to #674 - subtard ONLINE (02/25/2014) [-]
We do have the perfect conditions to create life from scratch though. I believe scientists have created life from inorganic matter before but I'd have to look it up again to confirm it.
And to me you're saying that given trillions of planets, some must have life. But then given that we are one, you say it's nearly impossible because we are just one and not trillions. Any planet that had aliens must have gotten them naturally anyway. And it's not that outrageous of a coincidence because if we weren't on a planet with life, well, we couldn't have this conversation.
#676 to #675 - vanityfair (02/25/2014) [-]
Earth has life, we know that, life could have come to Earth in two formats.

1) Just happening by pure chance, right chemicals come together at the right time with some kind of catalyst and boom, first single celled organism comes into being.

2) We were put here by some sort of alien species that wanted to grow life on planets to observe (Not really an unreasonable thing to do for a species of that level).

Purely considering Earth here, why would you believe that life was spawned out of non-organic matter via pure chance over a species that would want to create life to test and had the ability?
User avatar #685 to #676 - subtard ONLINE (02/25/2014) [-]
Because life had 4.54 billion years to develop on earth.
And there's no evidence whatsoever that aliens flew lightyears to come to a random ass planet, leave without a trace, and also not observe the species because they aren't here watching us. To me it's completely ridiculous and I give it exactly a 0% chance of happening.
#666 - garymotherfingoak (02/24/2014) [-]
I hereby compel and purge these unholy trips in the name of religion board
User avatar #667 to #666 - nigeltheoutlaw ONLINE (02/24/2014) [-]
sick tripz bruh
#660 - tauntaun ONLINE (02/24/2014) [-]
What's an experiment/study that I can do for my psychology class? My previous experiment was disapproved by my professor for being unethical.
#695 to #660 - huntergriff ONLINE (02/26/2014) [-]
...Did your last experiment involve starting a war and working both sides against each other, then turning a jedi against the jedi order with promises of new powers that can potentially save that jedi's wife and kids, then using that jedi to help with the purging of the jedi order and creating a new galactic empire?
...Did your last experiment involve starting a war and working both sides against each other, then turning a jedi against the jedi order with promises of new powers that can potentially save that jedi's wife and kids, then using that jedi to help with the purging of the jedi order and creating a new galactic empire?
User avatar #664 to #660 - doctorhue (02/24/2014) [-]
Look into suggestion
User avatar #661 to #660 - eight (02/24/2014) [-]
Study the gullibility of mankind. Look into the reasons people believe in conspiracies, religion, magic, or creatures of legend like Bigfoot, lochness monsters. Figure out what they all have in common. Then try to fool people by setting up your own scenario of your choosing. Try to convince them to believe something and then afterwards break the ice and record your findings.
User avatar #654 - revengeforfreeze (02/23/2014) [-]
Gravity doesn't exist, does it?

People usually describe it as one of the four forces but I'd just say that gravatons sound like phlogistons: Not actually necessary, for the things that occur don't need an elementary particle, they just 'happen' because of natural reactions in the world.
Like; gravity happens because we have mass, and mass pulls together other mass, so gravity is just our way of describing that phenomenon, and not something fundamental and constant

Much like the existence of fire is dependent on oxygen and, heat and fuel. There is no 'fireforce' in the universe that makes fire happen.

What do you think? I'm tired as all hell now so maybe I'm wording it badly
User avatar #699 to #654 - djequalizee (02/26/2014) [-]
Could you elaborate a little more on this? I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say exactly. If i had to answer your question from what you said, gravity does exist. Well the observable aspect of it, anyway. That's pretty apparent, seeing as we experience it every day. But the reason behind gravity, why it occurs, still remains unproven. The reason speculated behind this lies within how atoms interact. Atoms release a series of particles called "virtual particles". These particles extend out of an atom and snap back to the parent particle after a very short amount of time. However, this is only because they have mass. Gravitinos (hypothetical, yes), on the other hand, do not have any mass. And therefore can extend forever into space. This is why the force of gravity is seen as infinite. It's considered one of the 4 forces because it's a fundamental way that atoms interact with eachother.

With your logic that the force depends on mass, much like fire depends on oxygen, you could say things such as time depend on perception. Or electromagnetism depends on relativity. I think you might be confusing the theory of gravity with the law of gravity.

Feel free to correct me as i am not a scientist
User avatar #705 to #699 - revengeforfreeze (02/26/2014) [-]
What's the difference between law and theory of gravity, by the way?

I don't really understand the need for two separate things?
User avatar #706 to #705 - djequalizee (02/26/2014) [-]
The law of gravity is the mathematics part of it. Like how things accelerate towards Earth at 9.8 m/s^2, and the gravity constant (i.e. Gm1m2/r^2 ) that we can use to calculate the force of gravity on different planets and such.

The theory of gravity is the reason behind it. Why it even exists in the first place. Although we have an idea, we haven't proven it mathematically yet. We still cannot call it a law because all the ideas we have for it are still hypothetical
User avatar #709 to #706 - revengeforfreeze (02/26/2014) [-]
That's the one that spurred my thinking

Now, Im' not sure if we're saying the same thing though

People seem to be disagreeing with him
User avatar #707 to #706 - revengeforfreeze (02/26/2014) [-]
Thanks, anyway, I have a video for you
User avatar #704 to #699 - revengeforfreeze (02/26/2014) [-]
I am not either but alright, kind of hard for me to comprehend.
User avatar #662 to #654 - subtard ONLINE (02/24/2014) [-]
Apparently when thinking of the whole universe in field theory, gravity/mass warps space time to create attraction and so it isn't technically a force. But in the simpler sense it is.
We don't know if gravitons exist yet, so I guess we can only observe the effects for now. But if gravity is just our interpretation of natural reactions, I don't think we know the first thing about those reactions.
User avatar #659 to #654 - rainbowrush (02/23/2014) [-]
Gravitation is the phenomenon of mass attracting mass. We use gravitation as a force, but since it doesn't have mass, it's not technically a force. I might be completely wrong here, I'm not an expert on this matter.
User avatar #663 to #659 - subtard ONLINE (02/24/2014) [-]
It technically is just an acceleration by the units. But if you think of it as a force per unit mass it makes more sense to me.
#626 - anonymous (02/22/2014) [-]
Anyone in here a science major? I'm thinking of dedicating to a physics major.
Anyone in here a science major? I'm thinking of dedicating to a physics major.
User avatar #650 to #626 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/23/2014) [-]
Zoology major here. Physics is a good subject to study, i would recommend going for either a B.S or a double major with engineering.
User avatar #633 to #626 - rainbowrush (02/23/2014) [-]
Just job wise, I would advice to study to become something something engineer. If you already have a plan, or you really burn for heavier stuff, you can go plain physics.
User avatar #625 - acemcgunner (02/22/2014) [-]
science is for gay nerdy little bitch ass fags, that drink milk of their father's dick for money to buy pokemans...
User avatar #655 to #625 - revengeforfreeze (02/23/2014) [-]
>saying that from a computer
User avatar #656 to #655 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
duh geek just bad at trolling
#635 to #625 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #636 to #635 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
yes this is my troll bored since jerk circle have the other one..
User avatar #637 to #636 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
It's only a circle jerk when people agree with each others opinions because of the label that comes with it, rather than the arguments content. I don't think anyone on the religion board does that.
User avatar #638 to #637 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
yeah you lie a lot too...
User avatar #639 to #638 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
Oh, do I? Can you give a single example?
User avatar #640 to #639 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
the people on religion is always like" where is your poof" when knowing full well that god doesn't have to say shit to them... and I didn't wrote the bible , they make look like a ass by term ,"where the logic?" I don't fucking know or care...can science find human soul? no? good...
User avatar #641 to #640 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
Well, evidence happens to be important. If you had evidence for your beliefs, you would never use faith. That is the entire point.

You shouldn't feel like an ass when someone challenges your beliefs. Frustration is normal, but if you feel like an ass, it might be your ego, which should be a red flag.

'I don't know' is a great response, very appropriate. 'I don't care' might not be depending on the context. As an athiest, I do care whether or not my beliefs are true. For instance, if you can find something that I believe in without evidence, I will stop believing in it.

What is the soul? How do you know it exists? I don't think science even considers the idea of a soul a possibility, unless you define the soul as human consciousness.
User avatar #643 to #641 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
souls are untouchable by the living...you can't see them, ghost are perfect examples of this
User avatar #645 to #643 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
So souls are untouchable and unseen...Aren't you just describing non-existence?

I don't accept ghosts either. Lots of assertions, lots of anecdotal evidence, but nothing solid thus far.
User avatar #647 to #645 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
you won.... I should stop believing in god and kill myself cause I am a waste of human life to think their is a god, right?
User avatar #648 to #647 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
Why must you kill yourself if you stop believing in God? I don't think you're a waste of human life if you believe in God. Like most of the world, they only believe in their religion because that is how they were raised. And if you decided to believe in a religion without being indoctrinated, then maybe you just went for whatever seemed most comfortable to you.
User avatar #652 to #648 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
troll..
User avatar #642 to #641 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
I don't... I mean, really it like saying "hey you should believe that" I never said that plus..I never said anything that god hasn't said...
god doesn't need to give you shit,or proof you understand this right?
god can easily destroy this and make a new one which in the bible it said that...
User avatar #644 to #642 - eight (02/23/2014) [-]
Right. God is the biggest non-answer anyone can ever give. It's called God of the gaps.

Lucy: "I don't understand how the sun comes up."
Bob: "God did it."
Lucy: "Oh, wow!"
Lucy: "But wait, what created the sun?"
Bob: "God, of course."
Lucy: "Amazing!".
Lucy: "Is there evidence for any of it?"
Bob: "No, but that's okay, you don't need any. Just have faith. "
Lucy: "Wow, it all makes sense now! Praise the lord!

User avatar #646 to #644 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
I'll stop believing since you said I shouldn't...
User avatar #630 to #625 - rainbowrush (02/23/2014) [-]
You mean that's not normal?
User avatar #631 to #630 - acemcgunner (02/23/2014) [-]
hush, fag!
User avatar #624 - revengeforfreeze (02/22/2014) [-]
So, /sci/s lil bro.

Am I right when I assume that we have certain things that sort of highlight in our vision?
For example, seeing a computer generates some sort of feeling more than seeing a stone does. Or seeing food, friends, porn, thumbs up, real people naked etc. Or for example, another thing like that, would be when you saw your moms car come to get you at the daycare center when you were young.

For me, my biggest thing like this was seeing a new album, that thing highlighted above all things and there was some special feeling of seeing the new songs on Spotify.

Do you guys understand what I mean?
User avatar #629 to #624 - caerulea (02/23/2014) [-]
Are you trying to ask if there's a scientific explanation as to why things can mentally stand out?
User avatar #651 to #649 - caerulea (02/23/2014) [-]
Well, I don't think I can scientifically answer this in depth, but,

It has to do with how we see faces in things that don't really have faces. Like you see a car smile, or dots on the wall having eyes, nose, and a mouth.

And also that thing thing where, when you hear a song and forget about it, then hear it a month later, You recognize it even if you don't remember anything about it.

I'm sorry I gave a really stupid answer, but that's all I could do. I deal a lot with subconscious work, but never in any official science, or in any documentation. It's sort of a hard thing to really measure and mark fact of, and I'm no professional. I'm sure it just brought up more questions, if anything, but no one else seemed to be answering, and I didn't want a good question to go to waste.
User avatar #658 to #651 - revengeforfreeze (02/23/2014) [-]
Well, this board is less popular than it should be I get a feeling

Anyway yeah, I guess thanks.

Myabe not the best answer but yeah, it gave some enlightenment. We create patterns in our thinking, we see for example the computer and feel highlighted
User avatar #623 - dragx (02/22/2014) [-]
Help me Science Board Pl0x.
I have to do a project for a way to change Computer Science for the better, make a discovery or something that will be new, exciting and better for Computer Science, Ideas will be very much appreciated.
User avatar #634 to #623 - rainbowrush (02/23/2014) [-]
Make a way for people to slap other people through their screens.
#620 - captaincapital (02/22/2014) [-]
For the longest, people have decided to for believe that someone has been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. But I has find this statement are irrelevant.
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1. Can't Even Science

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Science provs no one has gone can for are to rock decide jump thus to from a jetpack. [ You need to login to view this link

If scientists can't decide whether destroy for look even, did he? No. I'm common sense.
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If the economy depends are for lift quickly, then where are we expect one going far even as to decide not to eat bankruptcy?
A massive deficit for to even go could accidentally the entire economy. When one goes do for the can't fathom, good for it that no one watch for invest in one going so far even.
Thus, one could not decide to look even as to go want do look more like because the barrier are odd inherently increase.
Conclusion: You am false to statements.
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If it partially is possible for someone to go from are statue to be for carrying mountainous loaded are to be, then philosophical argument 69 fro states not even are for possibility:

P1. People have ambitions.
P2. Ambitions create passion.
P3. People have passion.
P4. People can not pursue all passions appropriately.
P5. Nobody could go are for when there is something that she doesn't life for going in events of going far even to even decide wanting to go want do more like...

C. No one has ever been far even as decided to use even go want do look more like.
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User avatar #700 to #620 - djequalizee (02/26/2014) [-]
Yes
User avatar #622 to #620 - revengeforfreeze (02/22/2014) [-]
... is this gayobliteratorhere's alt account?
#621 to #620 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/22/2014) [-]
I'm not sure how to respond to this.
User avatar #617 - icameheretotroll (02/22/2014) [-]
If there are multiple universes then what about this

where's the universe where my soulmate can travel through universes and is destined to find my universe and meet me and marry me

I know, I'm retarded but this sounds so legit when you're sleep deprived
User avatar #739 to #617 - bouazizforever (03/01/2014) [-]
What about "Everything has already happened and will happen"?
User avatar #714 to #617 - rokkarokkaali (02/27/2014) [-]
They died
User avatar #607 - logickid (02/22/2014) [-]
ITT: Theories you have made up
1. We started out in the 1st dimension
2. Since there is an infinite amount of universes that means that (insert anything you want here) has an universe
User avatar #613 to #607 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
1. you mean as a singularity? If so, that is not one you made up
2. that is also true if the multiverse theory is correct.
#615 to #613 - anonymous (02/22/2014) [-]
The multiverse theory can't be correct. If there's an infinite amount of universes, there must be people who've found out how to travel between them. Since there are infinite universes, there would be infinite of those, and the chances of none of them traveling here would be slim.
User avatar #619 to #615 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
Laws bruh

impossible to break bruh
User avatar #618 to #615 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/22/2014) [-]
It depends on how you interprete infinite possibilities. Since the universe is still bound by natural laws it would mean that in an infinite amount of universes there are an infinite amount of possibilities as long as they are bound and possible on the properties of nature, going faster than the speed of light would be an example of an impossible feat even among infinite universes.

So all it would prove is that the ability to travel across universes is not bound by the natural law of the universe thus making it impossible in all infinite universes.
User avatar #632 to #618 - rainbowrush (02/23/2014) [-]
It is theoretically possible to travel faster than light, tho. The problem is that neutrinos is a tricky business, so we're not quite sure yet.
#616 to #615 - logickid (02/22/2014) [-]
Holy shit your fucking right.   
But maybe this is the universe where no cross universe travelers come to, and just be happy it isn't an alien race like the Combine from Half-Life 2.
Holy shit your fucking right.
But maybe this is the universe where no cross universe travelers come to, and just be happy it isn't an alien race like the Combine from Half-Life 2.
User avatar #594 - kanaka (02/22/2014) [-]
Can i have a discussion with a user about the Multiverse Theory? I have been thinking about it nonstop, and i want to know the probability of it being factual
User avatar #677 to #594 - factual (02/25/2014) [-]
It's a fact
User avatar #599 to #594 - Mortuus ONLINE (02/22/2014) [-]
About the same as it being impossible, in a few universes.
User avatar #600 to #599 - kanaka (02/22/2014) [-]
thats a paradox
User avatar #601 to #600 - Mortuus ONLINE (02/22/2014) [-]
So is the multiverse theory.

/thread
User avatar #602 to #601 - kanaka (02/22/2014) [-]
(fuck /thread)

How is the entire theory a paradox? Elaborate please
User avatar #603 to #602 - Mortuus ONLINE (02/22/2014) [-]
Because if the theory is correct, then every possible universe would have to adhere to the law, which is in direct conflict with the theory itself. Therefore, there are universes in which the law does no apply.

There was a discussion about this on a post back in 2011, but I'm a tad lazy to find it at this moment.
User avatar #604 to #603 - kanaka (02/22/2014) [-]
Intradasting.
#592 - anonymous (02/21/2014) [-]
Schrodinger's dick.
The dick can either be flaccid or erect.
Discuss, my niggas.
User avatar #596 to #592 - kanaka (02/22/2014) [-]
always flaccid until further arousal
User avatar #588 - haroldsaxon (02/21/2014) [-]
I want a car engine with over 90% efficiency, but I'm not quite sure how to get there, yet. Any ideas/thoughts?
User avatar #653 to #588 - robinwilliamson (02/23/2014) [-]
Thorium
User avatar #609 to #588 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
Use a VASMIR engine

it has high isp
User avatar #614 to #609 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
it has 98% efficiency
User avatar #610 to #609 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
also put wings on the car
User avatar #611 to #610 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
and a pressurized cockpit

and lots of fuel
User avatar #612 to #611 - drastronomy (02/22/2014) [-]
then go to mars
User avatar #591 to #588 - subtard ONLINE (02/21/2014) [-]
90% efficiency isn't even close to being attainable. Most are less than 30%
User avatar #597 to #591 - haroldsaxon (02/22/2014) [-]
We are somewhat close, but not quite there. Which is why I'm gonna make it
User avatar #595 to #591 - rainbowrush (02/22/2014) [-]
Electric cars get up to around 80%
User avatar #598 to #595 - subtard ONLINE (02/22/2014) [-]
Ah okay. Didn't even think about that
#587 - anonymous (02/21/2014) [-]
Ok so i was just thinking.
If brain transplants were possible, you could remove a freshly dead or dying persons brain, keep it active somehow, then put into someone elses body somehow, that brain will have all the memories and experiences of the person that died so you could possibly give someone a new body.

Or it could also be used for biologically perfect sex change simple get two willing participants, a female wishing to become a male and a male wishing to become female and swap their brains somehow.
User avatar #593 to #587 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/21/2014) [-]
It depends, the genetic code and cellular structure will be completely foreign and different from the body making it possible that the immune system will reject the brain cells.
User avatar #589 to #587 - Mortuus ONLINE (02/21/2014) [-]
If they were possible, yes. However, the brain controls every system of an individuals body -- CPU, essentially. Much like how CPU sockets work on motherboards, a different generation of CPU cannot be placed in a motherboard that wasn't designed for it.

So, it will likely not be possible to do, but it would be immensely interesting if it were.
#580 - azinfoo (02/21/2014) [-]
Doing chem homework, why don't ionic compounds conduct electricity in their crystalline form?
User avatar #590 to #580 - Mortuus ONLINE (02/21/2014) [-]
They're too closely compacted together for any energy to transfer. Awesome is also correct in his statement.
User avatar #581 to #580 - awesomerninjathing ONLINE (02/21/2014) [-]
they don't move
#577 - endercrew ONLINE (02/20/2014) [-]
Science
#576 - minibeep (02/20/2014) [-]
knowledge suck
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