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#2282 - thewillow has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #2293 to #2282 - synchron (07/05/2014) [-]
The will to live usually comes from the fear of death.
User avatar #2283 to #2282 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
You've gotten several answers. I suspect you may be depressed.
User avatar #2284 to #2283 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
Yeah, I am. Life hasn't been very kind as of late.

Going through an existential crisis isn't fun, either.
User avatar #2285 to #2284 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Let me see if I know my psychology right.....
1. Some traumatic event happened
2. You're now questioning your ''self-image'' as a competent, rational and compassionate person. Also called an existential crisis. I've had a few. You know what I did to feel better?

I went to the bottom with my childhood problems. School today is very bad, actually, it's built on industrialist ideas that the mind is mechanistic and linear. What are you questioning the most? The meaning of life? Been there, done that. You're not going to get through this easily, but I'll find a few videos... QualiaSoup (Why live without God?) Sam Harris (Meaning of Life and the strange objection that you can't have meaning without eternity) Daniel Dennett (Creating meaning in life) Richard Dawkins (We are going to and that makes us the lucky ones) Carl Sagan (We are capable of greatness) Symphony of Science (Our Place in the Cosmos)

User avatar #2288 to #2285 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
You're right.

I have had a fear of death ever since I was young, and as the years went by, the fear manifested itself into crippling anxiety.
Last December, I had a major panic attack. It left me in a fragile state of mind.

Then, when I began contemplating it all, I stumbled upon this channel

I really wish I hadn't.

I began using his arguments as my own, in an attempt to prove them wrong.
I was only able to refute so many of his claims on my own. W whenever I tried presenting these ideas as anything other than an argument, though, people were receptive, and agreed that life is meaningless, that all we do is merely a fabrication of the human mind.

I don't know anymore. These past few months have been hell.
#2368 to #2288 - amnitioe has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #2291 to #2288 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
This channel fucking sucks. It's your run of the mill "blah blah ape materialism science"
User avatar #2290 to #2288 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Lol dude. Such things are incredibly subjective whether or not life is pointless. anyway, you need to realize that you are suffering from confirmation bias. Did you watch any of the videos I sent?
User avatar #2292 to #2290 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
Yes, I just finished watching the video "Dan Dennett on creating meaning in life".
It reminded me that our morality system could be described as natural selection.

A lot that we do is natural, like ascribing value to things.

Thank you, cognosceteipsum, these videos are helping.

And I know, many of WhyLifeIsPointless' statements were overly reductionistic.
User avatar #2294 to #2292 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Glad to help really.
User avatar #2295 to #2294 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
Well, thank you. I had almost given up until now.
User avatar #2296 to #2295 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Damn. Well, people just don't understand that you need to be nice to people who feel down and are trying to spread their feeling down to others.
User avatar #2298 to #2296 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
You're right. But, I can't blame them; I was acting like a true Nihilist, which was my intention.
They responded accordingly.
User avatar #2300 to #2298 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Not really. Just a straw nihilist. Nihilism is about reengineering your memes in your brain. To remove certain unwanted remnants of lies and replace it wit the truth. People think a nihilist is some pissed off, self destructive person like Rust Cohle or Niklas Kvarforth, but it couldn't be further from it.
User avatar #2304 to #2300 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
Really? Well, what is the truth? That is the question that I ask myself the most.
User avatar #2305 to #2304 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
We can probably never see or experience or in any way sense THE truth - maybe with higher cognition. But there is a lot of different truths out there about different stuff. So, just go with the flow and find the truths. Isn't it more important, though, what our personal, subjective truth is? Like what we call meaning of life and what we call purpose and so on.

I value both. I value both opinions and Truth. Going on a journey to find the truth is probably the greatest journey you can embark on.
User avatar #2286 to #2285 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
We are going to die and that makes us the lucky ones*

I can bring as many more as you want, thewillow. Well, maybe not right now, but later. Just.. don't fucking kill yourself. You are a part of a family of 7 billion members of which part of them have started to probe the deepest secrets of the universe.
User avatar #2289 to #2286 - thewillow (07/05/2014) [-]
I will never kill myself. Don't worry.
User avatar #2280 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Does anyone know anything about how meditation works on the level of the brain?

I meditate and get into a trance like state where I feel very different from when I started. It's a little bit like what Buddhists call Nirvana, or enlightenment, inner peace, call it what you will.

I've heard it changes the blood flow of ones brain. Could that possibly be dangerous?
How do strokes work? A stroke is some kind of .. blockage in the brain that prevents the blood from flowing to the right places with oxygen, right? This lack of oxygen is what causes the... Stroke, which feels like a really intense headache or something like that, then you sometimes hear a loud bang I imagine.

Help? Lots of questions here, but if I could get one answwer from each person then, yeah, that would probably be sufficient.
User avatar #2269 - thebritishguy (07/04/2014) [-]
I'm wondering about getting e-cigs, I don't smoke but I would like to, does anyone know if it is really harmful though? I mean in comparison to say, alcohol?
User avatar #2355 to #2269 - freshpound (07/07/2014) [-]
lol, I hate this guy.
User avatar #2356 to #2355 - thebritishguy (07/07/2014) [-]
Where do you know me from?
User avatar #2357 to #2356 - freshpound (07/07/2014) [-]
I've seen you posting retarded shit in the past.
User avatar #2358 to #2357 - thebritishguy (07/07/2014) [-]
Where? in religious board? sometimes it is hard to contain my euphoria, you'd understand, oh no wait because you are betaswagfag *hashtag" BETA
User avatar #2359 to #2358 - freshpound (07/07/2014) [-]
haha, I don't even remember. Is your profile actually a picture of you? Is your whole profile just some sad trolling attempt?
#2360 to #2359 - thebritishguy (07/07/2014) [-]
Indeed, this is my final form. I only troll haters.
User avatar #2361 to #2360 - freshpound (07/07/2014) [-]
Bloody hell. The hat in your profile picture, do you wear that in public?
#2362 to #2361 - thebritishguy (07/07/2014) [-]
If I did Womynfolk would ovulate upon my arrival, usually I walk around bare chested to express my dominance, both in intellect, strength and my moral superiority to the faith heads and pop culture philosophers. I must hide my uphedora because other wise I will be far too aRrogiant. cum at me bro@
#2364 to #2363 - thebritishguy (07/07/2014) [-]
Even as a yunglin you could recognise my unique quirkyness, this is my main strength in the mating groundfs
#2365 to #2364 - freshpound (07/07/2014) [-]
You are not a person I would ever want to meet.
User avatar #2366 to #2365 - thebritishguy (07/07/2014) [-]
Kudos, although it should be noted I am le troll and so our meeting is impossible as this is simply an archetype, you can never meet someone who is just an act, boggle off.
#2367 to #2366 - freshpound (07/07/2014) [-]
no, u. kill yourself.
#2271 to #2269 - youregaylol (07/04/2014) [-]
"I don't smoke but I would like to"

Idiotic. The vapor is meant to simulate the experience of already addicted smokers seeking to quit. Now to my knowledge there is no definite proof that it can serve as a cessation device, but still thats what it's meant for. E-cigs have no tobacco, but they still retain nicotine which is what causes dependence. I would guess that they are "better" than cigarettes in regards to health simply because there is no tobacco, but you literally get NOTHING out of it if you're not a smoker.

I think you can also get them without nicotine, but honestly whats the fucking point? To look tough or something? Smoking is used for stress relief, not as a status symbol. Besides, nobody is going to think you're cool when they realize you're puffing water vapor.
User avatar #2273 to #2271 - thebritishguy (07/04/2014) [-]
I want to do it because I want to try the flavours and make smoke rings, I don't want to do it in public, I want to do it while reading and listening to music, I'll do the no nicotine one of course.
User avatar #2332 to #2273 - thegamerslife (07/06/2014) [-]
this is the most retarded thing I've read all week...
User avatar #2265 - nsfwcontent (07/03/2014) [-]
Biology Question

Okay, I'm looking to get a tattoo on my chest (you'll see why this is relevant shortly) but i'm not sure if it's safe for me.

I have a Ventricular Septal Defect (hole in heart) which is rather close to the aortic valve and my doctor said something about being careful of air bubbles? I have no idea what they meant by that but would it be safe for me to get a tattoo?
User avatar #2267 to #2265 - subtard (07/04/2014) [-]
I think you should probably ask your doctor instead of funnyjunk.
User avatar #2266 to #2265 - valve (07/03/2014) [-]
this is the first mention I've gotten that didn't involve videogames
#2262 - anonymous (07/03/2014) [-]
*roll number*
#2263 to #2262 - anonymous (07/03/2014) [-]
#2261 - greatgranpapy (07/03/2014) [-]
So I just watched the Cosmos finale. Sweat mother of Mendeleev that was amazing.
User avatar #2270 to #2261 - thebritishguy (07/04/2014) [-]
Every episode of Cosmos is pretty god damn euphoric, Sagan or Tyson.
User avatar #2253 - ihatem (07/03/2014) [-]
This may be a weird question, but can you break your eyes if you look too far in any direction? Or stretch too far?
User avatar #2264 to #2253 - ehzio ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
No, your lateral and medial rectus stops that shit from happening.

plus why would you do that
User avatar #2268 to #2264 - ihatem (07/04/2014) [-]
For sexual reasons
User avatar #2260 to #2253 - Mortuus (07/03/2014) [-]
Your eye muscles don't have the strength to tear themselves through voluntary movement.
User avatar #2254 to #2253 - ecomp (07/03/2014) [-]
what do you mean
Like moving them to the side or like looking at something far away?
User avatar #2256 to #2254 - ihatem (07/03/2014) [-]
To the side really really hard
User avatar #2258 to #2257 - ihatem (07/03/2014) [-]
I don't mean pain, I mean like if it's actually possible to break the muscle and go too far
User avatar #2259 to #2258 - ecomp (07/03/2014) [-]
Possible, but only with severe head trauma.
#2229 - improbable (06/30/2014) [-]
**improbable rolled image** I was level 231, i posted two content and both got negative thumbs, now im level 232.
how is this scientifically logical?
User avatar #2235 to #2229 - whatley (07/01/2014) [-]
Comment level.
User avatar #2236 to #2235 - improbable (07/01/2014) [-]
yeah i noticed after i got 34 thumbs down on a comment lol xD
User avatar #2221 - toncheky (06/30/2014) [-]
Google 5676977
Smart people of FJ, what do you think of this?
User avatar #2255 to #2221 - ecomp (07/03/2014) [-]
thats my phone number
User avatar #2232 to #2221 - Mortuus (07/01/2014) [-]
That's an extremely old topic of discussion.

Basically, it's Bullshit Trioxide. Crazy claims left and right with so little evidence to support any side that it might as well just be worshiped by some cult somewhere in a shed.
User avatar #2234 to #2232 - toncheky (07/01/2014) [-]
Alrighty, thanks.
User avatar #2220 - ribocoon (06/30/2014) [-]
If mass increases as velocity increases, and. velocity is relative to the observer, than is mass relative to the observer?
#2369 to #2220 - spikeasdfaak (07/08/2014) [-]
mass itself doesn't change, just effective mass. it'll look like it has more mass, but it doesn't actually.
User avatar #2222 to #2220 - toncheky (06/30/2014) [-]
Since gravitational force changes with mass, maybe it is but it's very small.
User avatar #2215 - codyxvasco (06/30/2014) [-]
I saw a video of perpetual motion machines and it had me thinking. Are these things real? Can I just set up a wheel with a bunch of internal ball bearings that will rotate forever until it physically deteriorates?
User avatar #2218 to #2215 - whatley (06/30/2014) [-]
No, perpetual motion is impossible, there will always be energy lost to the surroundings in some form of heat, friction or sound.

The closet we probably have are flywheel energy storage devices, which are high speed spinning wheels that store energy, and lose very little energy to the surroundings.
User avatar #2224 to #2218 - bluenebula (06/30/2014) [-]
Nigger open your profile to friends.
User avatar #2225 to #2224 - whatley (06/30/2014) [-]
You can always mention me on your profile, or message me on Skype or Steam, or over private messages, or over the chat system here.
User avatar #2226 to #2225 - bluenebula (06/30/2014) [-]
But I can't stalk you on any of those. =(
User avatar #2227 to #2226 - whatley (06/30/2014) [-]
I rarely ever make comments to be honest, not enough to be worth stalking.
#2228 to #2227 - bluenebula (06/30/2014) [-]
Worth it!
Worth it!
User avatar #2189 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Neuroscience and the hierarchy of which neurotransmitters are most important in my opinion
1. Serotonin. This little bastard is what makes us feel good when in social situations, which I believe had an evolutionary basis in that
a) group psychology since our time as primates. Imagine that you are a stupid monkey (which you really are but lets not go into that now) that touches fire. You touch something dangerous like, a thorn or you almost get killed by a dangerous predator. Your brain is smarter than you are, it creates certain pathways to make you not touch the thorn or whatever again. This happens over the course of several millions of years. Present day, we are VERY dependent on social validation thanks to the evolutionary boon it had.
b) Confidence, optimism and good judgement springs out of this chemical.
Battery is running low so I'm thinking of handing it over to the folks who can charge it, I hope you read some of what I said and most importantly give pertinent criticism.
User avatar #2200 to #2189 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
Bitch where's glutamate on this list. If you didn't have glutamate you'd just straight up die. It's responsible for carrying out like... Almost all excitatory post synaptic potential transfers of nervous depolarixation during a resonance cascade.
User avatar #2201 to #2200 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
I have a long way to go and in currently locked in an irrational mental hospital..
User avatar #2237 to #2201 - thebestpieever (07/02/2014) [-]
That explains everything.
User avatar #2238 to #2237 - indone (07/02/2014) [-]
Can you fuck off on to your dad and make useless, worthless art that isn't going to improve humanity already? Stalker. Fuck off.
User avatar #2239 to #2238 - thebestpieever (07/02/2014) [-]
M80, I haven't been on for a couple of days on and off 'cause reasons. How can I be the stalker when I just saw you entered my profle?
User avatar #2241 to #2239 - indone (07/02/2014) [-]
Blah blah blah spelling blah blah robot blah blah
User avatar #2240 to #2239 - indone (07/02/2014) [-]
Lol. Stalker has nothing to do with duration, dumbass. A stalkker is a person who gods on the profile of someone then responds in s discussion he wasn't invited to.

How unselfaware are you, dude?
User avatar #2242 to #2240 - thebestpieever (07/02/2014) [-]
Except a stalker is commonly defined as a pursuer. Which does require length. And I did not enter your profile, I clicked on a board. A public place of speech, in which one does not need to be invited to butt in.
User avatar #2243 to #2242 - indone (07/02/2014) [-]
Commonly known as is the key word.

Shut the fuck up and eat shit coward and admit you only came here because of your crippling inferiority complex.
User avatar #2245 to #2243 - teoberry (07/02/2014) [-]
Yeah bro you need your pills
User avatar #2244 to #2243 - thebestpieever (07/02/2014) [-]
... You may want to take your medicine, revy.
User avatar #2202 to #2201 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
Hmm what's so irrational about it?
User avatar #2204 to #2202 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
I expressed myself badly. I only feel sad because I am forced to be here by law, against my will and my own reason, their will and lack of reason. I am more strong willed though, I've fought through plenty and I'm not going to give up. I still feel pretty happy from time to time, but then the depressing realirty of my situation sets in. I feel as though I'm never going to get out, though I suppose I rationally know that I will eventually get out. Hey, the worst case is that my atoms get torn to shred in the big rip, right? Lol
User avatar #2205 to #2204 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
... A real pity... A real pity...

Have you met any psychiatrists yet? Or have you just been manhandled by orderlies and physician's assistants?
User avatar #2233 to #2205 - indone (07/01/2014) [-]
I realized I was pretty manic... I actually DO need the medicine.. or at least some of it.. :|

So, I was exaggerating in the heat of the moment there
User avatar #2206 to #2205 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
I've met a few. Funny, turns out I know more than them. I'm talking reciprocal altruism, they're talking pills (their highrst authority. Pills) They are all pretty mediocre and I'm both emotionally and intellectually healthy. You know, as healthy as one can be in an institution like this.
They ALL take the easy way out (hey, take these pills and all will be OK!) Yeah, lets not mention the fact that my dad never was there for me and EVEN neglected me when I became depressed
User avatar #2207 to #2206 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
Ask about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy next chance you get...

how are you on the net right now?
User avatar #2208 to #2207 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Yeah, I've heard it's great things about it.

Cellphone smartphone thingie.

Do I seem..... Intelligent?
User avatar #2209 to #2208 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
Well you don't seem stupid...
User avatar #2210 to #2209 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Ghost of dunning and Kruger chases us all, rite?
User avatar #2211 to #2210 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
mmm That happy bridge between knowing so little you don't realize how little you know and knowing enough to realize how little you know.
User avatar #2212 to #2211 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
I've crossed it, as you probably see below. =) I was pretty pleased with these comments, though this board is more or less dead... : (
User avatar #2213 to #2212 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
Of course... because everyone likes science, but nobody actually wants to study it... At least not on FJ...
#2216 to #2213 - anonymous (06/30/2014) [-]
Don't humour him, really, don't get sucked down that hole.
User avatar #2217 to #2216 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
the kid is in an asylum. If we treat him any less like a human how will he ever improve?
#2219 to #2217 - anonymous (06/30/2014) [-]
Probably not the best way, yes, but I don't think dignifying or encouraging his going against doctor's orders is in any way beneficial either.
User avatar #2230 to #2219 - Sethorein (06/30/2014) [-]
I never encouraged him to disregard medical orders, only to ask about a specific therapy.
User avatar #2203 to #2202 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
They want to give me mood stabilizers just because I experience both ends of the spectrum of, say, happiness and sorrow. They don't understand that I'm fine and the reason I'm here is a very long cause and effect chain involving hugely stressed out and overprotective parents/grandparents. I stopped taking some meds because they were doing literally nothing, what do my neuroscientifically/psychologically ignorant relatives do? Panick, call the very extreme psych ward and force drive me into the big city, threatening to call the police unless I comply, and here I am, have not been able to even go on a permission home for any number of time at all.

I've also been forced down on the bed and they gave me a shot in my ass and I feel like I'm never going to get out of here alive, so I threatened with suicide earlier today. Yep, I'm that desperate. The walls are all white, I can't sleep much at all part because I don't go into the sun and get melatonin a lot and part because the sun is out for too long to fall asleep for a longer amount of time.

The one of the staff members gave me lithium when I expected it to be calcium tablets and I'm generally miserable, yet I'm here because the laws state I'm supposed to be here. And that's the deepest reasoning I get from them: "LAWS SAY THIS, LAWS SAY THAT, RULES SAY THIS, RULES SAY THAT"
User avatar #2194 to #2189 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
2. Endorphins. They give a lasting sense of comfort and are commonly experienced whenwe have sex and hug. Also working out and self damaging behaviour
3. Oxytocin. RThe mediator for trust and for morality... When it's the right amount. Too much and you become clingy. One can also use their mirror neurons to make oneself trust a person who. They previously hated.
4. Dopamine. Most commonly from .. physiological needs too, but I'm pretty sure only masturbating or sex is the only common denominator for both endorphins and dopamine.
There are probably many more neurotransmitters.. oh right
5. Adrenaline. This is what makes us active in a f/f situation. Though both this one and number 6 more often than not have a negative effect in our modern technological society.
6. I hate this one, bwcayses it causes people to be stubborn. Norepinephrine.
User avatar #2197 to #2194 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Sethorein, you're studying neuroscience and psychology. Could we have a little chat?
User avatar #2188 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Different versions of the multiverse
1. The many worlds interpretation if quantum physics which is.. isn't it the opposite of the Copenhagen interpretation (named after danish physicist niels bohr)? The Copenhagen interpretation states
a) that one timeline collapses as another is observed.
While the many worlds interpretation states that as
b) there are... Infinite universes parallel to us, right?
ba) are they temporally or spacially parallel or
bb) If they are both, that would explain the feeling of deja vu, which basically is the slamming together of parallel selves (I think that it is God that shows us that we are doing the right thing and therefore is rewarding us with a somewhat.. strange feeling it something. Idk.
(X. Bonus. Quantum immortality. How's it work?)
2. String theory (developed by Dr. Michio Kaku)
a) a whole 9 different dimensions. Or something along those lines.
b) a multiverse too, no? I've heard something like it
c) a solution to the question of what the ultimate constituent of matter is, thiugh, I think it us naive to think that we will understand just because.. we exist and we have no electron microscope powerful enough to measure them. It's called electron microscope for a reason.
3. M-theory (I know Stephen hawking was big on that one for a while or maybe still is, not.sure
To my knowledge, M-theory is simply a concept for extra dimensions.

User avatar #2198 to #2188 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Bluenebula please respond when you can and you're free.
User avatar #2223 to #2198 - bluenebula (06/30/2014) [-]
This board is deeeaaad
User avatar #2231 to #2223 - indone (07/01/2014) [-]
User avatar #2187 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Harnessing the force of gravity like we have harnessed the strong/weak nuclear force
Say, lets discuss a few ideas behind gravity.
Gravity is
1. One of four known fundamental forces in the universe. Gravity was one of the forces that split away from the prime force that held them all together like a crystal.
2. Gravity is surprisingly enough the weakest force in this universe to my knowledge, which some physicist explain with the multiverse
3. The mechanisms behind gravity are not very well understood, I've heard
a) That it is simply the attraction of mass to other mass without any actual me... That doesn't make sense. Scrap this proposition
b) an elementary particle called "gravaton" "gravitron" and so on.
4. Dark energy, I believe if I'm not wrong, excerpts antigravity somehow. This is noticeable because galaxy clusters are being forced away from eachother at an alarming rate
User avatar #2246 to #2187 - givememoarpony (07/02/2014) [-]
There has been no grand unified theory that conclusively combined and derived all 4 interactions that can even be tested, and certainly not one that hypothesizes that the forces were held together like a crystal. The general idea is, as with the Higgs mechanism that gave rise to the weak and electromagnetic forces, as well as the Higgs boson, from the single electroweak interaction (which is not a thing, but a system of equations mapping the entire possibilities of interactions), that there exists a single force in energy levels high enough, and the force breaks apart into differently acting components when the energy levels become minimal compared to a ground level energy state. The most correct analogy would be a change in dimension once the spontaneous symmetry breaking occurs and the ball falls from the top of the Mexican hat, not some crystal. This analogy makes the most sense physically because the three forces of the Standard Model are defined in terms of a mathematical group, a concept in abstract algebra. For example, rotation in 2D space (more specifically, conservation of a value or equation in 2D rotation) is defined by the group SO(2), consisting of orthogonal matrices with determinant 1. Likewise, the electromagnetic force is defined on the group U(1), the weak force on SU(2), the electroweak force on U(2) and the strong force on SU(3). The Higgs mechanism breaks U(2) into SU(2) x U(1). But a similar thing cannot be done with general relativity because gravity is too nonlinear to be fit into the specific type of equations that reveal these groups (they are derived from the Yang-Mills Lagrangian).
User avatar #2250 to #2246 - indone (07/02/2014) [-]
Crystal was just a metaphor for them being unified once
User avatar #2248 to #2247 - givememoarpony (07/02/2014) [-]
Gravity is perfectly explained by the Einstein field equations of general relativity, which attribute the gravitational field to acceleration in space-time caused by space-time curvature, which is connected via the equations to the stress-energy tensor, which is a representation of the total energy, momentum and stress of an object. Problems arise when these equations are treated as quantum fields, where the energy levels cannot be rounded to any finite number (by a tweak called renormalization, which is a whole 'nother problem on its own) like they can in other forces, but end up resulting in infinities. This is because the equations for gravity cannot be reduced to the Yang-Mills equations. I speculate that this fundamental disparity in how these forces act is due to the three standard model forces being defined as projections of discrete space coordinates onto Minkowski space-time coordinates, while general relativity is defined on the Minkowski coordinates themselves. This is typically solved by bringing in tetrads, which represent a projection of the ideal flat space-time coordinates (or Lorentz coordinates) onto the curved Minkowski coordinates, but that complicates equations even more. That is why theorists generally do not use tetrads in their failed attempts at quantizing the gravitational force, and instead use low-energy linear approximations, by using a Higgs-like mechanism of separating the curved metric into the constant flat metric plus an anomaly, like the Higgs field being separated into the ground level energy state plus an anomaly and expanding the equations. Still, these failures strongly suggest that gravity is of a fundamentally different nature than the other forces. Gravity is the weakest for the same reason: its ground energy state is the Planck energy, while the energies of the other forces are vastly lower, because no such energy can be greater than the Planck energy.

User avatar #2249 to #2248 - givememoarpony (07/02/2014) [-]
Because of this, those energies are far more easily passable, so those forces become much stronger and yet with much less range. That's the best explanation I can think of right now.

Gravity does have a mechanism in its present conception and it is the curved space-time of general relativity. These equations detail how the metric (which represents the curvature of space-time) is affected by the presence of energy and how the energy would move on the space-time in line with the tendency to move toward the state with the least energy. Dark energy comes from a certain application of those equations in a certain metric (called the FLRW metric) that makes certain plausible assumptions about the universe (like homogeneity and isotropy) to approximately describe the evolution of the universe as a whole. When Aleksandr Friedmann first did this, he showed that general relativity implied that the universe was expanding. Einstein found that nonsense and corrected his equations with a little tweak called the cosmological constant which modified the Friedmann equations enough to exert a negative pressure that keeps the universe constant. But when Hubble then showed that the universe was, indeed, expanding (i.e. the spatial coordinates were expanding and moving apart from each other, not that Hubble actually saw the borders of space getting expanded), Einstein erased the cosmological constant and deemed it the biggest blunder of his life. But when it was revealed that the expansion of the universe was accelerating, the cosmological constant was revived and its value is actually known (~10^-120 Planck energies). People speculated on whether this constant is related to the cosmic inflation which is thought to explain the accelerated expansion (and has evidence behind it). Dark energy is a possible source of the cosmological constant that does not change density as the universe expands, thereby creating a negative pressure as shown by the equations.

You might want to look into it.
User avatar #2251 to #2249 - indone (07/02/2014) [-]
This is too much for me right now, but I'm gonna learn it some day. The ghost of dunning Kruger chased me there.
#2252 to #2251 - anonymous (07/03/2014) [-]
Really? really? really kid? face it, you didnt think you knew this stuff, you were just bullshitting and hoping someone would think you are smart if they didnt actually read your stupid dribble
User avatar #2181 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
I have a few theories on dreams.
1. Glances to parallel universes as spoken of in the many worlds interpretation of quantum physics
2.psychodynamic way of dealing with emotions too strong for the conscious mins to handle
3. The activation of the... Pineal gland secreting dimethyl tryptamine? SSomething like that?

All of the above, one of the above, or two of the above.
User avatar #2191 to #2181 - Mortuus (06/30/2014) [-]
Alternatively, the effect of the sub-conscious brain digesting information during REM sleep.
User avatar #2192 to #2191 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Which is basically another side of the psychdynamic idea, isn't it?
User avatar #2193 to #2192 - Mortuus (06/30/2014) [-]
That's a resounding maybe. It's all a best educated guess type of deal, at the moment.
User avatar #2196 to #2193 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Thanks for not insulting me like all the other people though
User avatar #2195 to #2193 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Yeah, I guess I need to make a combination of neuroscience and psychology in order to understand fully.
#2160 - saltybanana (06/29/2014) [-]
quick question to anyone who knows a bit of radiology   
i wanna major in Rdio tech, but im not sure what classes to take.   
so fgar i have already taken    
-bio 3 n 6   
- soon to take physiology   
but thats all i know so far ive heard to take chemistry is an option but idk?    
ive tried talking to my counsleors at my school, but have to be in this program, and to be in it must have to have a GPA of 2 and over my gpa is bad cause when i started school i really didnt pay much attention, cause i was very undecided     
so my question is what should i take as in classes?
quick question to anyone who knows a bit of radiology

i wanna major in Rdio tech, but im not sure what classes to take.
so fgar i have already taken
-bio 3 n 6
- soon to take physiology
but thats all i know so far ive heard to take chemistry is an option but idk?

ive tried talking to my counsleors at my school, but have to be in this program, and to be in it must have to have a GPA of 2 and over my gpa is bad cause when i started school i really didnt pay much attention, cause i was very undecided

so my question is what should i take as in classes?
User avatar #2140 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Now, I want to convince you why we need more Jungian psychology in the world than we need Freudian. Freud basically built the psychiatric systems we have in place today. He used cocaine because he thought that introducing chemicals to your consciousness was the only thing that could cure patients, so that has built up how we treat psychiatric problems today. By quetiapine, sertraline and so on. I think this is a fundamental mistakes.

Lets face it. Most diseases are complexes or personality disorders ( transsexuality, homosexuality, dissociative identity disorder, borderline disorder and fill me in on if there are more). I don't actually think that chemicals in the brain are everything when it comes to life. I believe complexes are tied to our soul, rather than our physical mind. If the soul is not used as it is supposed to be (creating, exploring, experiencing) one develops an inferiority complex due to the lack of personal individuality. We are created to be individuals and not to be conforming, yet, this mass conforming to various things is like a psychosis.
User avatar #2199 to #2140 - indone (06/30/2014) [-]
Damn. I really ducked this one up. Embarrassing
User avatar #2214 to #2199 - teoberry (06/30/2014) [-]
>ducked up
That made me puke in my mouth a bit. It's a word. It's not gonna hurt anyone you pussy.
#2143 to #2140 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
"Now, I want to convince you why we need more Jungian psychology in the world than we need Freudian"
>Proceeds to ramble incoherently, unknowingly of psychology's evolution and when the cocaine method was dropped, and how it doesn't relate to the current drug scene in clinical psychology.
>Labels homosexuality as a "disease/personality disorder/complex"
>Science and facts board
>"Let's talk about our soul"
>wat is psychosis (yes i know the definition, but psychosis has very clear symptoms and patterns, none of which can be applied to a mass society, so save up your "it's a loss of touch with reality)

Is this what universities are teaching now? When I strudied psych it wasn't great, but we weren't this fucked up either.
User avatar #2146 to #2143 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Problem is that we are looking in the wrong places. Everybody is dead set on that we are simply made out of matter.
#2148 to #2146 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
No we are not. But until you can give me facts to the soul, then it's useless to discuss about it. We work with what we can. If you tell a surgeon there's a magical healing orb in the centre of the sun, then he obviously will want to work with that, but we can't attain it, so we stick to what we've got.
User avatar #2150 to #2148 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
What if you have faith? You need faith in all other areas of life. Why not have faith in the soul just because? What harm can cone out of that? We barely know anything about complexes, except that it holds our subconscious desires. Therefore creating the roles in our lives. For example, I am some random idiot to you, but to me I am smart. Which is fine, as long as you don't act on what it negatively.

Our society is solely focused on the lowest step of the pyramid of needs that maszlow made.
#2153 to #2150 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
You need faith. In recovery, in treatment, in therapy, in people and in your capacity. Those are things you see and deal with every day, you see fail, and you see succeed. The soul? I've never seen it. I've never heard it. I've never treated with it. Does it exist? Maybe. But I don't know how to treat a soul, so I treat people. I don't know what therapy a soul needs, so I give therapy to people. Do slip pills work on a soul? I don't know. Does a soul benefit from stress balls? I don't know. Does a soul need to vent? Who the fuck knows, but people do, so I treat them.
User avatar #2145 to #2143 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
I know what psychosis is. The religion of money is a psychosis.
#2151 to #2145 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
Does "the religion of money" cause hallucinations? No.
Does it cause catatonia? No.
Is the "religion of money" tied to other common disorders? no, because everyone has it and not everyone has disorders.
Does it cause delusions? Secondary ones, yeah, not strong enough to be diagnosed.
Does it interfere with thought? Philosophically yes, scientifically no.
Is the "religion of money" most commonly tied to drug use? No, because everyone has it but less than half of the population consumes drug on the capacity that ties them to a psychotic disorder.

It is not a psychosis.
User avatar #2158 to #2151 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
What if I want to improve upon the concept of psychosis?
User avatar #2157 to #2151 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
The religion of money is tied to inferiority/superiority complexes which are really dangerous, so yes.
#2159 to #2157 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
Losing a bit of sleep is not insommnia, therefore, not another disorder.
Inferiority and superiority complexes, dangerous things, usually not a mental disorder, can be treated with therapy in even the most extreme of cases. Usually secondary ones, however, so again, it can't be treated as a sympton.
And how do you plan to improve the concept? We've got symptoms, we've got treatments, we've got common correlations and causations for the disorder, we've got even many different types of psychotic disorders.
Your big contribution is gonna be what? "I said this thing that can't be called psychotic disorder is, so take it and tell me I'm smart"? Where's the research. Where's the terms? Where are the symptons? Where are the correlation and causations? Where are the term definitions? Your only argument is "I said so, I'm smart, whoever contradicts me is wrong".
User avatar #2162 to #2159 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
What do you mean by secondary?
#2163 to #2162 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
... You call yourself a psychologist yet you don't even know how to categorise hallucinations and delusions? m8, you really need to go to a better school and sue your psych teacher because he's ripping you off
User avatar #2166 to #2163 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
I.. don't go to school. School is an effective creativity ans curiosity murderer. I find those to be virtues to live by, therefore, I consider school as overall detrimental to the well beingof the sstudents AND teachers. Which, to me, is insane since rveryones miserable by their own fucking doing.
#2169 to #2166 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
... Well then youre shit at reading, because anyone whos spent 10 minutes on wikipedia or any other site would understand what a fucking psychosis is and the history of clinical psychology with much more depth than you do
User avatar #2171 to #2169 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Why so aggressive? I'm trying to learn here and prune flaws from my mental world. Shiuldnt you be happy that I'm showing interest in a science that almost solely focuses on how to attain well being? It's unpleasant these insults.
#2172 to #2171 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
No, because you are not trying to learn, you come here presenting "stone" facts and diagnosing a grave disorder to the entire human populous when its horribly obvious you havent even passed the second line on the wikipedia article on the matter
User avatar #2175 to #2172 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
I believe psychosis can take on different levels of severity. Or would that be addiction? Cause, I imagine that being addicted IS a form of psychosis. Sounds logical enough
#2177 to #2175 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
Being addicted is not a form of psychosis. An adiction is a phisiological or psychological drive to replicate stimuli derived from certain activities. A psychosis is a mind not in denial, but in plain desynchronised with reality. They may come together but they are not related. So no, it is not logical, at all.
User avatar #2179 to #2177 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Damn son. They really got to you.
#2180 to #2179 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
"They got to you" says as he plunders knowledge so simple he could acquire it within 10 minutes of reading any article on the matter, he who does not know the symptoms of addiction or psychosis, nor does understand the medical definition of either. He who cannot fathom what a secondary dellusion is even though he claims to study pshychology.
User avatar #2182 to #2180 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Epistemology. How do you know which one of us are right?
#2183 to #2182 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
Because I'm the only one who's arguing psychology based on psychologic theory. The only thing you've said this whole time is "If you disagree with me is because you are too dumb to understand" or "Eye of the beholder". The problem is, you are diagnosing established diseases with established symtoms and established behaviour patterns when it's very obvious you don't know any of them. And you're relating two different types of disorders and saying "one is just a version of the other" with no foundation. You're just talking out of your arse and saying "eh, it's my perspective" with absolutely nothing to back you up. Shit dude, do the world a favor and at least read the entire wikipedia article before pretending you know about it.
User avatar #2184 to #2183 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
That's how you interpret it. I don't believe you're dumb, you're just not at my level yet as I spend hours at end thinking about these concepts and their implications.
#2185 to #2184 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
I've been practicing psychology for two years. And you say you've spent hours thinking bullshit as if that concedes you any authority that even I don't have. you try to rewrite medical cannon by sheer force of "i said so" and have no understanding of how symtoms or diagnosis of diseases work. The only thing you seem to know is the larouse, one sentence long definition of these complex psychological issues you're mutilating left and right.
User avatar #2186 to #2185 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
That tells me nothing. If you've been asking the wrong questions, you don't stand a chance of being right. I believe Jung is actually the way to go in this case and not so much Freud
User avatar #2161 to #2159 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
No, but I'm saying we STILL have this social psychosis that we are SO dependent on external stimuli in the form of chemicals to sleep, which is incredibly dangerous
#2164 to #2161 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
It is not a psychosis, a psychosis doesn't mean a bad thing, a psychotic disorder has symptoms, none of which are there
User avatar #2165 to #2164 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Psychosis: lack of touch with reality aka the collective unconscious
#2167 to #2165 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
The collective unconscius is a theory. It is not stone fact, therefore you cannot lose touch with it.
Again, I fucking told you, give me the symptoms. If all you've got is a diccionary definition instead of the medical symptoms of a psychotic disorder to prove your retarded point, then it doesn't hold any water because you're arguing semantics not medicine. Give me the symptoms of a "social psychosis" because of "the religion of money". Give me symptoms, give me facts, give me medical reasoning.

Don't just say "I believe this, other people do, everyone who doesn't is a loss of touch with reality, therefore they have a psychosis even though they don't present symptoms and are not denying any stone facts".
User avatar #2168 to #2167 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
So, you are one of those fact guys? Which personality does that fit under now again? I forget
#2170 to #2168 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
Yes i need facts because i can diagnose a psychotic disorder to the entire human population
not just some dude who says "i believe this, you don't, by semantics that means you are psychotic"
User avatar #2174 to #2170 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
And no. I'm talking about where they believe it to the point that they NEED it in order to function as human beings which is quite depressing actually.
#2176 to #2174 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
You said you believe its a fact. The rest of people dont. Therefore, by semantics, you are diagnosing them with a psychotic disorder without presenting any symtom, except a very loose interpretation of the diccionary definition of a psychosis.
User avatar #2178 to #2176 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Wow. Are you autistic? You lack the capability to truly think outside of the framework of already existing psychiatry. Mostly Freud, I imagine? Because you are VERY stubborn and compulsively labeling my behaviour and thoughts. Also, protip: Isaac Asimov: The Relativity of Wrong.
User avatar #2173 to #2170 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Well. It's very hard to actually extract hard facts like that on something like the collective unconscious, but I have fairly good reasons to believe in it which I will attempt to write down tomorrow as night is approachng wher I live. I know that just becausse a scientist is skilled in one area, it doesn't mean he's skillled in the other, that's probably something to do with dunning-kruger
User avatar #2156 to #2151 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Well.. inadvertently, it does. It causes people to lose sleep (how can I pay x and x and how will college fund x and x) which make people very tired and has a terrible toll on people's sleep. I will respond to your comment with various different comments.
User avatar #2144 to #2143 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Arthur Schopenhauer used to say that each individual takes the limits of his vision/cognition as the limit to the world. In other words, you haven't attained a high enough form of consciousness / studied enough to know.
#2147 to #2144 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
In other words "I am brilliant and you disagree with me, ergo you are dumb" great support of argument. There's this wonderful thing called wikipedia, read it for 15 minutes and half of your incoherencies will be erased. It's miles better than whatever backwater university youve been going to. But seriously, get into a better school, dude.
User avatar #2149 to #2147 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
School is an institution that creates illusions.. the illusion that we are fact memorizing machines... We are learners, thinkers and feelers. Do you think Aristotle went to school Einstein hated school.
#2152 to #2149 - anonymous (06/29/2014) [-]
Aristotle went to school, under Plato.
Einstein hated school because he outlearnt it, not because of the institution itself.
User avatar #2155 to #2152 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Exactly, under Plato, another great mind. Not under separate persons who have an incredible dissonance.
User avatar #2154 to #2152 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
I think it was both. He outlearnt it BECAUSE it was a defunct institution.
User avatar #2141 to #2140 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Oh, and significance, autonomy, purpose and mastery are also fundamental needs of the soul, none of which are being fulfilled in todays society
User avatar #2142 to #2141 - indone (06/29/2014) [-]
Nigeltheoutlaw. Looking forward to hearing your opinion on this. Also, we need human connection as closely as we can (e.g. sex, hugs, kisses, handshakes, high fives)
#2138 - nimblewalrus (06/24/2014) [-]
I'm sure this applies to something here.
User avatar #2135 - lulzfornigeriagirl (06/23/2014) [-]
Sir Isaac Newton vs Bill Nye. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 3. Science related.

Don't be hatin planetary fly
User avatar #2137 to #2135 - kanadetenshi (06/24/2014) [-]
We got a le badass over here. xD
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