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#43 - kkiiim (01/15/2014) [-]
exposion of any classified document is illegal,
should we just allow everyone to go on about secret operations etc etc?
#69 to #43 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
well that just it they are claim it opration info when its after that by that i mena it oprtaion were done they tell you hwat has ahppend thye are no longer valid or even of use to any enemy other than using understand tatics but second you us somthing agasint an enemy thye know baout so you have little to no point to make i mean at all
#81 to #69 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
You guys don't have a ******* clue what you're talking about, do you?
#121 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
Oh just shut the **** up... Stop overreacting to little **** that's going on. Let the government do what they think is best for this country.
#24 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
Only one problem... nothing was illegal...
User avatar #41 to #24 - ewl (01/15/2014) [-]
i agree with this, and also see this as being a problem.
User avatar #78 to #24 - playerdous (01/15/2014) [-]
Yes some stuff was illegal, not all of it but some.
#80 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
The reason it's illegal to reveal these secrets is because said people sign legally binding contracts and also swear not to reveal the secrets. Thousands of people have access to those secrets but they agreed not to divulge them.
User avatar #4 - trollins (01/14/2014) [-]
I support the NSA and their actions.

If I had to guess, the main reason most people are upset with this is because they think that if they ever get in trouble with the law, some guy in a suit's gonna show up in the court and talk about the defendant's addiction to horse porn or whatever.

To put your mind at ease, they just have a program that searches for keywords that suggest illegal activity.
User avatar #32 to #4 - burningchimera ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
would you like it if someone was watching you go to the bathroom while taking notes of everything you did? Or have you ever walked by a policeman worried, even if you know you did nothing? yeah it's kinda like that
User avatar #36 to #32 - thebaseballexpert (01/15/2014) [-]
If you believe the NSA has the manpower, funding, and time to personally watch everything that goes on at every moment of everyones day, then you need to do a little more research.
User avatar #37 to #36 - burningchimera ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
i meant that that's how it feels like with that knowledge, not what their actually capable of. going back to the policeman thing, you still feel uncomfortable, even though you know you did nothing wrong.
User avatar #38 to #37 - thebaseballexpert (01/15/2014) [-]
I personally like the analogy that i think was a picture on the front page at one point:
"NSA spying is like finding out your neighbor is a sex offender; It's a little uncomfortable, but you wont do anything about it"

Personally, I don't care what the NSA is doing, and it's not a recent thing like everyone's making it out to be... It's publicly known to have been happening AT LEAST since the Reagan presidency, and I'm willing to put money that it's been going on since telephones and/or radio was invented.
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User avatar #73 to #4 - huszti (01/15/2014) [-]
the problem's also that the NSA is spying on basicly every of their european allies.

honestly, spying on Merkel's phone doesnt help fighting terrorists at all.
User avatar #74 to #4 - dawggz (01/15/2014) [-]
In (former) Soviet Eastern Europe, we (try to do) surveillance on the Government.
User avatar #101 to #4 - jukuku (01/15/2014) [-]
Let's just skip all the anecdotal crap. The company Snowden worked for, had a contract for $56 000 000 000. They recently cut veterans benefits, food stamps and have cut research grants and things that will ensure a healthy economy for futures to come. Instead, they gave out a contract to collect data on just about everyone. What has this accomplished? Absolutely NOTHING. They have nothing to show for it, no stopped attack, no increased security, just the power to manipulate people. It's a cancer, a total waste. The spending would save more lives if it was given to companies for medical research, so don't even try and pull the ******** that it saves lives, it doesn't. It does NOTHING for the whopping cost of $56 000 000 000. What a super ******* deal.
User avatar #102 to #4 - durkadurka ONLINE (01/15/2014) [-]
No, people have an issue with it because they treat everyone like they're guilty.
I'm almost positive that I'll never be directly impacted by the surveillance, but what they're doing is just so against my principles. It goes so far past the bounds of government's role.
#106 to #4 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
And the US military just have some guns.
User avatar #110 to #4 - vonjackindigo (01/15/2014) [-]
leave my addiction to horse porn out of.......this
User avatar #42 to #4 - shaddz (01/15/2014) [-]
What trollins is trying to say here is simply "hurr durr I believe in my brainwashings because the governmoont has told me it is worth catching some bad people by takings away alls of my freedams... *picks nose with a steak knife*"
User avatar #59 to #42 - konradkurze (01/15/2014) [-]
funny and true at the same time
#75 to #4 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
Are all people in the USA this stupid? Or is it just this guy?
#100 to #75 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
Just this guy, and a few others
User avatar #26 to #4 - heartlessrobot (01/15/2014) [-]
Personally, I don't care what they're looking for or why, I just don't want them looking.
User avatar #31 to #26 - threeeighteen (01/15/2014) [-]
Unless they're positive or at least got good reason to suspect someone is doing something illegal, child porn, etc. I agree, just adding that bit.
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User avatar #6 to #5 - trollins (01/14/2014) [-]
Then what is it?
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User avatar #8 to #7 - trollins (01/14/2014) [-]
Is it really that bad if the president of Uruguay knows you have a poop fetish? The information is used to capture terrorists. Anyways, it's not like everyone's pone is tapped, it's mostly throwaway cell lines and discrete online chat boards.
User avatar #105 to #8 - baaltomekk (01/15/2014) [-]
So you tell me that the NSA taps phones of the Leaders of various european countries to catch terrorists? Don't be silly
User avatar #10 to #8 - trollins (01/14/2014) [-]
woopsi phone*
User avatar #11 to #10 - atrumaliger (01/14/2014) [-]
"The ongoing publication of leaked NSA documents has revealed previously unknown details of a global surveillance apparatus run by the United States' NSA in close cooperation with its Five Eyes partners: Australia (ASD), Great Britain (GCHQ), Canada (CSEC), and New Zealand, along with cooperation from the security agencies of "most other Western countries".

The Guardian's editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger said in November 2013 that only one percent of the documents had been published.[108] Officials warned that "the worst is yet to come", a sentiment echoed by Glenn Greenwald and by Lon Snowden."

Goes a little further than just 'Finding keywords". Like Inferny said, they're gathering whatever information they can get.
User avatar #12 to #11 - trollins (01/14/2014) [-]
You provide a very good argument for your case. While I still believe what I said, you're a good guy. I have to go know and I won't be able to reply.
User avatar #13 to #12 - atrumaliger (01/14/2014) [-]
S'all good. Enjoy your day.
#23 to #13 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
What a twist
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#14 - funnyjunkexplainer (01/15/2014) [-]
**** the government hur durh

I'd be so much better off without them

User avatar #33 - Cipher (01/15/2014) [-]
I must be the only person that couldn't give 2 ***** if they monitor my every movement. so what, if they aren't using this info to imprison me why even care if some creep is watching you fap to ponies from the other side of your webcam?
#46 to #33 - shrolen (01/15/2014) [-]
1984, read ************ .
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User avatar #63 to #48 - skumbaner (01/15/2014) [-]
US declaration of independence? :S
#64 to #63 - yeorey (01/15/2014) [-]
Revolution, silly billy.
User avatar #108 to #64 - StickyTissueLoLz (01/15/2014) [-]
rip mastur ch33f
User avatar #65 to #64 - skumbaner (01/15/2014) [-]
Ah... Thanks
User avatar #66 to #65 - yeorey (01/15/2014) [-]
No prob, bro.
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User avatar #61 to #55 - thrakerzad (01/15/2014) [-]
what happened in 1984
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User avatar #71 to #61 - vigorion (01/15/2014) [-]
It's a book.
User avatar #77 to #55 - Cipher (01/15/2014) [-]
Dude that's a book, not real life. There is no reason to believe any of that will actually happen. All you conspiracy theorist need to calm down. Honestly all of this surveillance has no effect on our daily lives so again why care?
User avatar #39 - kwanzalord (01/15/2014) [-]
Everyone is parading around that snowden and **** is a hero.
I don't really think so...since he's not so much disclosing illegal government **** to us the US people as much as selling them off to other countries....
#82 - cacachaud (01/15/2014) [-]
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User avatar #104 to #82 - priestoftheoldones (01/15/2014) [-]
How dare you do what he once did, filth.
#111 to #104 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
What who once did? Sorry can you please fill me in on what I'm missing?
User avatar #112 to #111 - priestoftheoldones (01/15/2014) [-]
Geckosandcheerios ,search it
#113 to #112 - John Cena (01/15/2014) [-]
Thank you!
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User avatar #89 to #82 - LookinHereWhy (01/15/2014) [-]
how dare you post what he posted?
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#86 - adamks (01/15/2014) [-]
That's hipocrisy and not irony isn't it?
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#47 - TheInvader (01/15/2014) [-]
I love how FJ is now full paranoid people, who ******* cares that NSA is spying on us, be happy that at least someone acknowledges you (though they see you as threat)
#15 - kanedam (01/15/2014) [-]
a state needs to do things that shouldnt be legal for others... especially in a democracy i cant openly say those methods are needed.

of course it can go overboard, but generally i think that a gov needs a bit of freedom and secret to work.
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