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#212 - hiyorin (11/11/2013) [-]
We are all equally different.
We are all equally different.
#170 - Bloodgartham ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
I think you are missing what part the equality is for. IT's for everyone to have the same opportunity as everyone else. It's so everyone can actually do something with their lives.

TL;DR - Same opportunity for everyone.
User avatar #202 to #170 - missmieze (11/11/2013) [-]
yeah but the way 'equality' is actually going is this:

two people apply for a job, one is a man, the other a woman. The company already employes more men than women. So because of 'equality' the comany has to employ the woman, because they need to fulfill a certain 'rate' EVEN if the man has a better education and fulfills the requirements better than the woman.

this is not equality
#295 to #202 - Bloodgartham ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
That is true, but that dosent happen a lot here. Maybe your equality is flawed?
User avatar #162 - ancientchaos (11/11/2013) [-]
because legal equality is totally the same as social equality
User avatar #306 - djjeroenski (11/11/2013) [-]
true, nobody is equal to another person, but we do deserve to be treated equelly for the things we do
#301 - alphahelix (11/11/2013) [-]
Yeah! **** equality!
Look at my skin! It determines who i am mentally!
look at my sexual partner, no not who they are person wise but their gender! check that out! Oh yeah, and my Rippling biceps! that makes me different than you guys! oh yeah and check out my AWESOME B+! u only got a C! Ha! don't group me in with you, ya pleb.

Protip: you are allowed to fully appreciate the differences that make us unique while simultaneously treating everyone with equal respect and fairness.
#317 to #301 - fragman ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
reading only the lines on top doesn't really let you grasp the concept of what I'm saying.
Or didn't you understand the "learn to accept that" part?

Also, while you try to make a blunt statement it basically is what we see day to day. Social circles usually form with people who are similar in many ways while the members still are different. And if you're really telling me that you respect everyone equally you're a *********** ... respect is earned, not given.
#321 to #317 - alphahelix (11/11/2013) [-]
so if you meet someone you have never met before you will treat them with 0 respect. treat them like complete **** ? all people should be treated with respect to the fact that they are a fellow human being.
Whether you are tall, skinny, fat, plagued with down syndrome, black, white, asian, or rainbow colored, i will treat you with fairness, and equality, in general.

then again "equality" is a pretty broad statement. not really sure what you mean by it. im using it generally.
#323 to #321 - fragman ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
that's not what I said and you know it.
If I meet you for the first time, I will treat you like a neutral. From there the respect I have for you will go up or down. But since this happens really fast I think it's stupid to call that "equal respect". For example: If you bring before me 10 randomly selected people I'll probably have much higher regard for some of them than others within 2 seconds... The same actions don't get the same amount of respect. And that's normal due to each individuals perception of other people. A fat guy running ten miles will earn him much more respect in my book than a very athletic guy doing the same thing.

I work with mentally challenged people, some of them severely. For some of those people even properly asking a question is very demanding and therefore I respect them for giving all they can to do it. If my boss manages to ask me a ******* question it's not that much of an achievement though...

What I'm trying to say is that everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, noone is equal. If you compare two people both of them will be superior and inferior to the other at the same time, it's just a matter of what you're looking at.
#285 - promor (11/11/2013) [-]
Was gonna post about the difference between individuality and equality in the comment but it looks like you guys got it. Good job funnyjunk.
Was gonna post about the difference between individuality and equality in the comment but it looks like you guys got it. Good job funnyjunk.
User avatar #283 - inuyuru (11/11/2013) [-]
I think you're getting the wrong idea of what we mean be "equality"
User avatar #282 - stultum (11/11/2013) [-]
There is a difference between equality and being the same.

Everybody is different. I will sooner believe a doctor who tells me that I just have a bad cold, than a concerned friend who tells me I have lung cancer, because his father had lung cancer, and it started the same way.

There are other things my friend will be better at though. Being my friend, for one. He may know several languages, have a good sense of right and wrong, be able to see in the dark better than others, be a really good football player, or have a killer sense of humour.

And even if he isnt... He's still a human being, and is equally important as the aforementioned doctor. Which makes them equal.

As equals, they both have the right to live, to work to their live goals, and get help if they need it.

Equality is not giving everybody a fish, it's learning fishing those who don't know how to fish, and helping those who already know how to fish to put this skill to good use.
#259 - inch (11/11/2013) [-]
you do realize that everyone should be equal in the sense that everyone has the right to vote, if 2 people do the same job they deserve to have the same amount of pay and vacation days. NOT everyone should have the same amount of strength, dumb ass.
User avatar #229 - riddlerenigma (11/11/2013) [-]
Yes. Because we all just love hearing people saying they are better than us.
#205 - takkun (11/11/2013) [-]
Relevant
#253 to #234 - takkun (11/11/2013) [-]
He's the emperor from Code Geass, and he gives this big speech about people not being equal.
#200 - ivoryhammer (11/11/2013) [-]
Or we could just not give a **** about race at all.
User avatar #157 - friendlyanon (11/11/2013) [-]
"Equality" refers to legal rights, obligations and personal treatment. Nothing more.

But i get your point, people seems to have twisted or lost track of what "equality" means.
User avatar #195 to #157 - nospyonme (11/11/2013) [-]
It's the gradual moral decline of culture. Years ago people decided the Golder Rule was a bad idea, and did away with its teachings because it appeared to be dubiously worded. Eventually "created equal" will no longer mean what it did when it was written, and then it too will be abolished. When that happens we will be in a much sorrier state then when we found ourselves lacking the Golden Rule.
User avatar #97 - tmbg (11/11/2013) [-]
Equal opportunity is what's important.
User avatar #69 - tronbot (11/11/2013) [-]
Let me guess, OP is a white, straight, male, right?
#73 to #69 - caplocker (11/11/2013) [-]
Leave it to a ****** bitch to point that racist **** out.
User avatar #74 to #73 - tronbot (11/11/2013) [-]
Is that your attempt at trying to be a troll? Go home, come up with better ideas, and then come back a try again. I'll wait.
#75 to #74 - caplocker (11/11/2013) [-]
You're a black woman, of course you'll be waiting. It's not like you're going to work or anything.
User avatar #76 to #75 - tronbot (11/11/2013) [-]
Meh. Got anything else?
#78 to #76 - caplocker (11/11/2013) [-]
A paycheck at the end of the week and the ability to piss standing up without making a mess.
#263 - selfdenyingbeggar (11/11/2013) [-]
Equability and union come from difference, that's the paradox.

If you had a puzzle and all pieces where the same, you couldn't create anything.

If you feel that everyone must be the same then people lash at each other because of their differences. When you come from a place that knows every piece as different from the other, then you have acceptance for all the different pieces and you don't judge (compare).
User avatar #264 to #263 - paradox (11/11/2013) [-]
no i am paradox
#254 - satansatan (11/11/2013) [-]
"Equality" isn't about being the ******* same kind of people, it's about having the same opportunities in life...
User avatar #61 - komandantmirkoo (11/11/2013) [-]
equal rights =/= everyone equal
User avatar #46 - bushingenna (11/10/2013) [-]
I agree with everything accept race. We invented that concept. The only human race out there is called human.

And people are preaching for equal RIGHTS. Obviously we have differences, but people should have the same freedom.
#54 to #46 - Rascal (11/11/2013) [-]
No, faggot, there are many different races. This "only race is the human race" **** is the worst idea I've every heard. We are all different, and unique. As a society, we should embrace these differences in culture and celebrate them. Every race is equal and should be treated as such, but we are not all categorized under one race. Shut up.
User avatar #57 to #54 - bushingenna (11/11/2013) [-]
Identifying someone as a different race is what starts racism. Black skin? Still human. African decent? Thats the cultural difference.
#63 to #57 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
racism is stating one race is superior/inferior to another.
saying black people ar black, and white people are white isnt racist.
User avatar #66 to #63 - bushingenna (11/11/2013) [-]
i never said it was.
#67 to #66 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
maybe i mistook it...

somehow seemed that way to me.
identifying someone as a different race is what starts racism.
i thought you meant its racist to see a black or asian or white person and know they are black, asian, white...
#64 to #46 - Rascal (11/11/2013) [-]
There are however different human species. Just like the black and brown squirrel, Blacks and Whites and Asians have very different physical and mental qualities. We are not the same and it is natural for different species to fight. To deny this is to remain ignorant
#94 to #64 - Rascal (11/11/2013) [-]
flynn effect
#65 to #46 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
you know that there are different traits with the different races?
its not an invention that different races are different... its not an invented concept to see a white man and know he's white and then to see a black man and realise there is some difference!

also in a lot of scientific fields it is simply beeing accepted (especially in medicine, because there are differences that are important and need to be taken into concern when treating people so they dont have the luxury to act all political correct and say there are no races... if they acted that way people might suffer.)
User avatar #84 to #65 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
Technically, people aren't genetically varied enough to classify people as clear cut subspecies, and even when individuals are, the differences are usually just relics of our ancestors' histories.
#87 to #84 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
But among dogs, which are well known for their hybrid (or mongrel) varieties, different breeds can mate and have viable offspring, so they are all found under the umbrella of a single species, Canis familiaris.

i'm not quite sure how to say it in english since i'm not a native speaker.
the word "race" in my language is the same for "breeds" and "race". so the term fits perfectly to the different human "breeds". they can have offspring, they are genetically very close but still have different traits and clearly different paths of descendents.

And to keep my analogy with the dogs: you also know that different breeds share different medical problems (of course a lot are the same) but you know for example that the german shepard has a much higher likeness to have troublem withthe waist than the husky, where the husky needs more movement to stay healty.
(with humans black populations for example have a higher risk of sickle sell anaemia than white people.)
User avatar #88 to #87 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
Dogs are extremely more genetically varied than humans, in fact, people are some of the least genetically varied organisms around. Differences in medical needs require very, very little difference in genetic makeup, we're talking like one recessive gene.
#91 to #88 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
its exactly the other way round...
different dogbreeds are genetically closer to each other than two humans from different ethnics. for humans it's around 0,1% of the genome that is different, in dogs its just a few hundred (mainly 70) genomes that are different that result in such a wide spread of different breeds.
the only reason the word "race" isn't used is because of political reasons. anthropologues clearly use and state that there are races among humans.
also as stated before, medicine sees them differently (meaning in some ways they need different treatments too, and the anatomy is different. from simple visible traits down to cellular construction of the body)

but even if you ignore all that: are you seriously saying that everyone is equal...? or that there is no difference between the different ethnics of humans? (not meaning every single one from a race is different, but the average has clearly a different trait than the average of another race.)
User avatar #93 to #91 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
I'm afraid I can't take the top paragraph seriously, since my experience is completely different. The reason people are so genetically invaried between individuals is because there are so many genomes, not in spite. That is how probability works. Dogs have such drastic differences because each of their genomes has a much more profound impact on complete genetic makeup.

Remember that it's the prevalcence of these differences that matter.

And no, I have already contended the opposite, that is a strawman. Obviously people of the same ethnicity are usually genetically similar, but it is also completely possible to be more genetically similar to others of different races than to others of the same.
#95 to #93 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
i am not quite sure what you meant in the first paragraph...
do you mean humans have so much more genomes than dogs?

and may i ask, where do you got the information from that dogs are so much more varied than humans?

but to the last sentence: its true, people from different races can be closer than people from the same race. thats true.
User avatar #96 to #95 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
By varied I meant between individuals, figured that was implied. I thought it was silly to bring up social races since even if we were somehow so genetically bland that there were literally no subspecies among us, we'd still be more genetically similar to those who look like us on average.
#99 to #96 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
ok now i am really confused. lol, sorry...

did you mean two people of the same species (two whites, two blacks, etc) and not two eprson from different races (one white, one black) when you were talking about variation because you assumed that people that look more alike (whites, blacks, asians, etc) would of course be more genetically different?
User avatar #100 to #99 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
I'm a bit confused here, too.
#101 to #100 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
the two of us...
the two of us...
User avatar #122 to #101 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
Well, I'm sure you got my point.
#123 to #122 - kanedam (11/11/2013) [-]
nope i didnt... i think.
or at least i'm not sure...
User avatar #124 to #123 - Shiny (11/11/2013) [-]
Oh well.
#47 to #46 - icefried (11/10/2013) [-]
race =/= species
race =/= species
User avatar #48 to #47 - bushingenna (11/10/2013) [-]
you know what i mean though
User avatar #230 - foelkera ONLINE (11/11/2013) [-]
If race is a social construct, then why are there minorities?
#235 to #230 - sabotagesam (11/11/2013) [-]
if ketchup equals londonderry, then how come earthworms faked the moon landing?
#256 to #235 - trailoftears (11/11/2013) [-]
That's a good question, Sam.
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