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#3 - schnizel
Reply -149
(08/05/2013) [-]
Being gay is a choice, but I do not think the gays deserve to be mistreated nor praised.
Rape happens for a reason, yes, that is true. Because that power hungry no luck with women idiot wants sex but does not deserve it. And you can't cry rape when you cheated on your bf in a party. That is not rape, it's irresponsibility.
#128 to #3 - mostlyshits
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(08/06/2013) [-]
you dun ****** up noaw.gif
#330 to #3 - skeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnd here we have a typical example of a retard.
#407 to #330 - schnizel
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(08/09/2013) [-]
Thanks
#97 to #3 - alexrider
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Being Gay is a choice, yet it's not as simple as yes or no. It's like an addiction that you can't drop. If I had a brother that was an alcoholic, I would still love him but I wouldn't like the decisions he made, same thing with homosexuality

Pic unrelated.
#109 to #97 - rieskimo
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(08/06/2013) [-]
No, that's just about equally offensive as saying sexual preference is a choice.

Being gay isn't bad, there's nothing wrong with two adults finding love with another. Race, gender, religion...none of that matters with love. It will find you, and as long as you embrace it that's great.

There's nothing wrong with being gay, being gay or straight is the same as being male or female. It was something that was foisted on us, you didn't choose to be straight and I didn't choose to be a boy. Being gay is not being addicted to dick, that's asinine and belittles those who are gay because it implies they don't have the ability to love. It implies they are obsessed with dick, not that they can only feel romanitc love in the arms of somebody of the same sex. No, your view is perverse not people who are gay.
#43 to #3 - ugottanked
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(08/05/2013) [-]
....it aint a choice
#264 to #3 - dangertits
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
#324 to #3 - marcinthedarc **User deleted account**
Reply -1
(08/06/2013) [-]
You are a ******* stupid cunt.
You are a ******* stupid cunt.
#207 to #3 - seymourtets
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(08/06/2013) [-]
#268 to #3 - dickeating
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Do me a favour. Right now, I want you to choose to like men. Choose to be attracted to men. If other people can, why can't you?
Get back to me on that one.
#277 to #268 - schnizel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I chose not to.
#281 to #277 - dickeating
Reply +1
(08/06/2013) [-]
Prove to everyone here that it is a choice.
#283 to #281 - schnizel
Reply -6
(08/06/2013) [-]
I chose not to.
I chose not to.
#53 to #3 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
So being gay is a choice eh? Okay.

Take your most disliked food. The food that makes you sick just by thinking of it. Okay, got one?

Okay, now make that exact same dish into your favorite food all of a sudden. The type of food someone could wake you up for in the middle of the night.

That's right, you can't. It's a built in preference. You're born with a taste. Both in food, and in sexual attraction and everything else. Can you control what you like? No. You either like something or you don't.
#38 to #3 - anon
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(08/05/2013) [-]
So, all the time when i was gay, and wanted to be straight, i just had to chose to be it?
#4 to #3 - imus
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(08/05/2013) [-]
If being gay really is a choice, try to choose to be gay for a day. I dare you 'cause I sure as moat can't.
#6 to #4 - schnizel
Reply -18
(08/05/2013) [-]
Ok.
All I do is sit in front of my PC all the time and make ****** stuff.
#241 to #3 - jackii
Reply +4
(08/06/2013) [-]
found the repressed homosexual
#75 to #3 - nogphille
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(08/06/2013) [-]
if your penis gets hard thinking of/looking at someone of the same gender, you're homosexual.

if your penis gets hard from both males and females, you're bisexual.

if your penis gets hard thinking of other people of the same gender, yet you never act on it and marry someone of the opposite sex, then it's your choice to be a closet homosexual.


i can't believe people think it's a choice.
#150 to #75 - srapture
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(08/06/2013) [-]
You missed one out. If your penis gets hard from both males and females, but you want to appear like you're a better person than bisexuals because you are somehow sexually attracted to personality rather than physical appearance despite the fact sexual attraction doesn't work like that, you're pansexual.
#234 to #150 - nogphille
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(08/06/2013) [-]
i've missed waaaaaaaay more than one.. i've chosen to take the most common (imho) examples...

i could've gone on about necrophilia, beastiality, pedophilia,...
(illegality aside, i doubt these are choices too..)

orrrr.. transgenders, hermaphrodites,...
(something you're definitely born with)
#8 to #3 - teranin ONLINE
Reply +14
(08/05/2013) [-]
schnizel, your theory flies in the face of all scentific research done on the subject, and in the face of logic. When did you decide you were straight? I certainly don't remember there being a decision involved, just sort of turned out I was attracted to women.
#11 to #8 - anon
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(08/05/2013) [-]
*tips fedora*
#13 to #11 - teranin ONLINE
Reply +14
(08/05/2013) [-]
I don't wear fedoras, they look ******* retarded. I prefer giant sombreros.
#34 to #13 - heartlessrobot ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
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It's Jester hats for me.
#9 to #8 - schnizel
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(08/05/2013) [-]
I like men, like bros, is that gay. Even if I was gay, I would fight it. I see no future in being gay.
#10 to #9 - teranin ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
that part is a choice, whether or not to struggle against your own sexual preferences. But the sexual preferences themselves aren't a choice. However, it's a pretty **** choice to have to make, don't you think?
#14 to #10 - schnizel
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(08/05/2013) [-]
Oh it is a choice, you think gay babies come out of the vagina all fabulus. Sexual preferences is a choice just like a sexual position. Well to know that I will damage my race by being gay, I would not be gay. Well, I'm not saying that gay people are criminals or degenerates but even spartans were gay(but for a reason (morale)). But they must have a waifu and a son to carry on his name.
#15 to #14 - teranin ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
negative, sexual preferences are not a choice. Otherwise I would not have chosen certain preferences that I have, which other people having knowledge of would destroy my reputation. I would simply choose to not have interest in them. The actual desire is not a choice, acting on it is however.
#16 to #15 - schnizel
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(08/05/2013) [-]
I use a lot of wells.
Many men and women have a desire to rape or to get raped, but that does not make it okay, mkay? I have many desires, and my brain is pervert. But you don't see me walking down the road and rapeing people.
Nor do I **** men because I like it. Choices are made by the mind, a strong mind will not give in to something that will damage it and the people around him. I can decite to be gay, but I won't. For the a single reason cuz I love my waifu (she is real, 100%) and the act of having sexy time with a man disgoust me. It may be a desire, boy do I have many, but the mind must decide what is good for you and what is not. Do not give in, do not retreat, do not surrender, we are the fury of the Emperor, we are doom, we are steel, we are SPES MAREHN!

#17 to #16 - teranin ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
again, no, wanting gay sex is not a choice, having gay sex is. I have never felt any attraction of any kind to another male, not due to the obvious social and biological reasons but simply because my brain does not find such things to be sexually stimulating. The desire itself is involuntary, not a choice. The action is a choice.
#18 to #17 - schnizel
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(08/05/2013) [-]
Oh you did. Don't lie to me. I don't like when people lie to me.
#19 to #18 - teranin ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
Wow... I'm really sorry Schnizel, but I'm not lying to you.  Did you really think that every man actually is capable of finding other men attractive?  Wow I hate to be that wake-up call.  You're a good guy and I enjoy a lot of your posts, so I didn't want to be the one to let you know that no, most men are completely incapable of finding other men attractive.
Wow... I'm really sorry Schnizel, but I'm not lying to you. Did you really think that every man actually is capable of finding other men attractive? Wow I hate to be that wake-up call. You're a good guy and I enjoy a lot of your posts, so I didn't want to be the one to let you know that no, most men are completely incapable of finding other men attractive.
#119 to #19 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
What you claim is not fact, nor scientifically proven.
#20 to #19 - schnizel
Reply -24
(08/05/2013) [-]
Luv you too.
Deep inside your head, it is, lying there, a sexy mexican man waiting for sexy time.
#54 to #20 - mistlarousse
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(08/06/2013) [-]
You're an idiot
#246 to #54 - schnizel
Reply -6
(08/06/2013) [-]
I'm like the villan of FJ.
#145 to #20 - kanbabrif
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(08/06/2013) [-]
#410 to #18 - jackii
Reply -2
(08/15/2013) [-]
i came back jus to thumb you down some more <3
#412 to #410 - schnizel
Reply 0
(08/15/2013) [-]
And then again, I don't give a ****. When people chose to be stupid(liberal), that is their thing.
#413 to #412 - jackii
Reply -1
(08/16/2013) [-]
>doesn't care
>replies twice
#414 to #413 - schnizel
Reply +1
(08/16/2013) [-]
Changed my mind.
#415 to #414 - jackii
Reply -1
(08/16/2013) [-]
>doesn't care
>changes mind

also
thumbing you down doesn't make me "liberal"
you're so stereotypically American it's funny
#416 to #415 - schnizel
Reply +1
(08/17/2013) [-]
Cool. You are way of.
#417 to #416 - jackii
Reply -1
(08/17/2013) [-]
**off

Stupid 'merican
#418 to #417 - schnizel
Reply +1
(08/17/2013) [-]
I do what I wan. I'm a free African American womyn and I need no grammer.
#411 to #410 - schnizel
Reply 0
(08/15/2013) [-]
Ok. Why?
#310 to #14 - noschool
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(08/06/2013) [-]
i think the human race would be better off if you were gay because then we'd have less people like you running around spreading ignorant nonsense.
#30 to #3 - xdeathspawnx
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(08/05/2013) [-]
If being gay was a choice, why would anyone choose to be gay with all of the discrimination and hatred against them?
#33 to #30 - heartlessrobot ONLINE
Reply +5
(08/05/2013) [-]
Because, getting pounded in the ass feels good.
I still don't think it's a choice.
#100 to #33 - zorororonoa
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Strapons
#101 to #100 - heartlessrobot ONLINE
Reply -1
(08/06/2013) [-]
I know those exist, but it lacks the throbbing sensation followed by a hot, sticky, squirt filling you up.
#23 to #3 - inxtcy
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(08/05/2013) [-]
WTF? A choice? Oh, ya, I'm sure homosexuals CHOOSE to have bigoted assholes hate them. Jesus.....what a stupid thing to say.....choice. I suppose I "choose" to be attracted to men with dark hair as opposed to blonds?
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#373 to #224 - inxtcy
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(08/06/2013) [-]
lol...Sorry!
#235 to #23 - dermustang
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Found the gay vegan
#371 to #235 - inxtcy
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(08/06/2013) [-]
You're a moron. Straight female, non-bigot who LOVES a bloody steak for dinner here. Thank you very much.
#403 to #371 - toosexyforyou
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(08/07/2013) [-]
You're pretty retarded.
#40 to #23 - anon
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(08/05/2013) [-]
who the **** cares if it's a choice or not?
#96 to #23 - toosexyforyou
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Kids write on walls for attention. The people giving them attention are upset with them because they wrote on the walls but the kids still just wanted that attention, they didn't care that it was negative. And just like that, your "oh it'd be stupid that people choose to have others hate them" argument is invalid.
#89 to #23 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
It is a choice to go out of your way to **** men, stupid.
Sure, a dick in your ass is gonna feel really good, but you can supress those feelings, just as you can any other sexual urges.
It's a psychological thing to be gay, so in a way it is a choice. However if you are raised under the circumstances that you become gay then it is not your fault.
#147 to #89 - stanleys
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(08/06/2013) [-]
You pretty much just admitted that your gay bay saying a dick in your ass is gonna feel good
#252 to #23 - dmagen
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(08/06/2013) [-]
and even if they do choose to be homosexuals what's wrong with that?
#190 to #23 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
It is. what kind of logic is a world where you cant choose who you are? grow up.
#24 to #23 - schnizel
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(08/05/2013) [-]
Why do you chose to be such a big faggot?
Damn you shure got me with that amaizing argument and the thumb down.
#37 to #24 - vicsix
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(08/05/2013) [-]
Go out and **** a man and enjoy it fully you ass hole.
#247 to #37 - schnizel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
No thanks. I chose not to.
#184 to #24 - ThePhysGun
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(08/06/2013) [-]
You sir, are being a faggot. An ignorant faggot. Congratulations.
#25 to #23 - schnizel
Reply -25
(08/05/2013) [-]
Please tell me you are SRS.
#280 - anon
Reply 0
(08/06/2013) [-]
Gay marriage is a trick question to begin with, its just something to get everyone pissed off about. If you're actually in love with somebody, you don't need to pay some dude with a bible a bunch of cash to tell you can smack lips with your other half.

If everyone minded their own business we wouldn't have these issues, but no, we have being gay people trying to cause a huge ruckus because they suck more dick than the rest of us. That's fantastic, keep it to yourself and nobody will care.

******* hate this society.
#296 to #280 - wernstrom
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Sadly, you have a valid point..haha
#334 to #280 - payseht
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(08/06/2013) [-]
You can have marriage outside of the church, and the benefits to this are to a degree pointed out by the anon below me, so your argument is null.
#312 to #280 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I agree with everyone minding their own business, but the thing about marriage is we have given it weight as a process in which people are able to tie their possessions together, and inherent said possessions after death. It also gives them rights to make medical decisions and a whole slew of other perks which they are being denied because we've decided that marriage is the one thing that makes these rights a given, without having to spell it out in a will.
#242 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
-homosexuality is a choice not a disease
-pedophilia is choice not a disease
-obesity is choice not a disease

stop making excuses and accept that there are people out there who **** little fat guys
#243 to #242 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
im tolerant of both pedophiles and homos.

i encourage child pornography to be one day legal to view and distribute, then we can stop child molestation from actual happening.
#288 to #243 - bigboyblue
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(08/06/2013) [-]
That's a great idea to lower the rate of child molestation, but I'm sure most children don't want that kind of attention or pictures/videos taken of them, and even if they did, there's all sorts of reasons why their consent wouldn't be valid. So either way, child pornography will never be accepted or legalized. Until then, loli hentai will have to do. Unless you live in the 4th circuit of the U.S., because that ****** illegal there.
#244 to #242 - bronybox
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure neither pedophilia or homosexuality are a choice.
Homosexuality CAN be a choice, but it almost always isn't.
I'm pretty sure pedophilia is never a choice.

Obesity is a choice. I mean, you can be naturally inclined to be more overweight, but it's your choice whether or not you want to put in the effort to change your lifestyle/eating habits.
#270 to #244 - yetaxaa
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(08/06/2013) [-]
homosexuality is NEVER a choice. It's just not possible to choose feelings like that. Homosexual BEHAVIOUR is usually a choice, but the actual homosexuality itself NEVER is
#275 to #270 - bronybox
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I mean in the sense that some people are bisexual, and attracted to both, but they chose to identify themselves as only one for some reason or another.
#260 to #244 - upyourarsinal
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(08/06/2013) [-]
"you know what? i feel like touching children now"

wat
#273 to #260 - anon
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(08/06/2013) [-]
you know what? i feel like im attracted to women

wat.
#39 - oddboyaj
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(08/05/2013) [-]
I'm sorry, but where is this verse condoning rape from?
#55 to #39 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.
-Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB

Among others.
#64 to #55 - Bad Man
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Did you somehow miss the blatant sense of punishment mentioned in that verse? That's far from condoning it.
#67 to #64 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I suppose I did.
#68 to #67 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Mostly because I still can't see it.
#71 to #68 - Bad Man
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Protip: next time you try to use something in an argument, make sure you know its context. This is describing one of many times when God condoned the razing of Jerusalem for all the **** they pull, namely adopting false gods, adultery, child sacrifices, etc.
#73 to #71 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
As I said below, I think God telling his followers to rape people is condoning of rape regardless of context.
#94 to #73 - Bad Man
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(08/06/2013) [-]
He didn't tell his followers to rape anyone, he was outlining a law to punish rapists and to allow women to be provided for, otherwise they would've faced an even harder life in the face of society.
#95 to #94 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I don't see that.
#105 to #95 - Bad Man
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(08/06/2013) [-]
-_- You don't see a lot of things...
#108 to #55 - oddboyaj
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(08/06/2013) [-]
This is my quick answer, from what I'm getting this is God telling the people of Jerusalem of something devastating that will happen. He's not condoning the act of rape he's saying how horrible this is going to be. He even gives a picture of Jesus in this war that he goes on to speak of. Rape is a sin, that's shouldn't get mixed up though. God is just giving a picture of something horrible, I'm not certain but you may be able to look at it as warning. In any case here's a good commentary on the subject if you're interested,
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but as far as suffering goes, there is no easy answer to it. I have one that I like though, it's something Tim Keller said once, and I'm sure many others. Christianity has something a lot of other religions do not, in that we have a God who came down as a servant, humbling himself, suffering like us, walking as we do, being tempted as we are, getting stressed out like we do, weeping like we do. We do not know why God allows suffering to happen, BUT we do know it is not from lack of care because of God's suffering. Jesus Christ can sympathize with use, so there is no lack of care. We just don't know why.
#84 to #55 - oddboyaj
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Hey, man. I'm gonna do some research and get back to you on all of that okay? Someone did say something helpful, but brashly. That being, always use context in reading the bible, even in Genesis "Who is this being written for, why, etc, what's the situation".
#58 to #55 - timmywankenobi
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(08/06/2013) [-]
That only applies to jeruslam plus that already happened several thousand years ago mate.
#61 to #58 - feelythefeel
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If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
-Deuteronomy 22:28-29

Also, I think God telling his followers to rape people is condoning of rape regardless of context.
#62 to #61 - timmywankenobi
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(08/06/2013) [-]
yep thats jewish law alright you can rape but then you have to take care of her for the rest of your life . plus that old testament besides the ten commandments that whole book is gay.
#63 to #62 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
-Me 90:01-69
#65 to #63 - timmywankenobi
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I'm saying it says you can rape but then you have to take care of the woman for the rest of your life as a reminder and punishment. also the old testament says a lot of crazy **** mate.
#69 to #65 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
I wouldn't consider getting married getting married a punishment, especially if I lived back in the biblical time and location.
#70 to #69 - timmywankenobi
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(08/06/2013) [-]
but wouldn't she nag you about how you raped her for like ever ?
#76 to #70 - feelythefeel
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It wouldn't matter nearly as much back then.
#83 to #76 - timmywankenobi
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(08/06/2013) [-]
fair enough .you know the old testament alo says you should kill or castrate all non jews/choosen people of god too. we don't followm that advice either.
#87 to #83 - feelythefeel
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Whether or not it's taken into consideration still doesn't change that it's supposedly "God's will".
#90 to #87 - timmywankenobi
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(08/06/2013) [-]
true enough.
#5 - andywazowski
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(08/05/2013) [-]
In some way homosexuality is a choice. But it's not like you wake up one day and decides to like the same gender as one self.
#41 to #5 - krasnogvardiech
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(08/05/2013) [-]
Ralph did it.
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#7 to #5 - teranin ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
no, you're born liking that, so you just inherently know it. Much like I just inherently knew I was attracted to women.
#32 to #7 - heartlessrobot ONLINE
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(08/05/2013) [-]
I'm sure one person decided to like dudes, but that doesn't mean it's a choice for everyone.
#12 to #7 - niggastolemyname
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#117 to #7 - teoberry
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(08/06/2013) [-]
>teranin
>attracted to women

ahahahahahahhaha
#118 to #117 - teranin ONLINE
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#248 - strictlycommenting
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Homosexuals who claim that "it's not their choice" are setting themselves up for rejection. If they say that it wasn't their choice/fault, others will believe they are just excusing themselves and will lose whatever respect they have for them.
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The only way to effectively come out of the closet and stand your ground is to be firm about it, and claim that it IS your choice, that others don't have a say about the way you live your life. After all, if you don't have the courage to stand up for yourself, others will stomp on you.
#257 to #248 - BerwindTwentyFour
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(08/06/2013) [-]
Well, it isn't their choice to be attracted to the same sex and not the opposite.
However, it is their choice to live an open homosexual life or to live a straight one.
Whether or not they have the ability to choose depends on what is meant in the situation.
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#256 to #251 - strictlycommenting
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Treating a person like it's not their choice is like claiming they have a disease, it's completely dismissing their perspective or opinions. If things affect what you choose, it's still your choice at the end. Homosexuality is not a disease nor a mutation, and shouldn't be treated as such.
You're right, you don't choose one day that you like dicks in your ass. You progressively change, aware of what you're doing.
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#265 to #262 - strictlycommenting
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You say it like it's wrong to be gay. As if nobody would choose that path if they could. That's what I mean about dismissing other people's opinions.
There will always be discrimination agaisn't new ideals, like how the Pope hanged Galileo for saying Earth wasn't flat.
Like I said, it's not a disease, it's not a mutation, it's not a wound. The person isn't crazy or genetically wrong. It's just a person.
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#271 to #267 - strictlycommenting
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I don't know, ask them :l
I'm saying that for discrimination to stop, first they have to be accepted as people, that they are perfectly fine in their heads and can do as they please with their life. The first step is always acceptance.
#292 - GodOfGodz
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I dont think being gay is a choice or genetic. I think it depends on how you were raised. I know this kid who only hung out with the girls in elementary school, only talked to the girls, and then in high school, I find out hes gay now. My cousin was raised in a house with 3 women, and his dad. His dad (my uncle) is an INSANELY manly man, he hunts, you name something manly, hes done it. Anyway, he kind of forced his manly lifestyle onto my cousin, but he didnt like it and stayed with his mom and sisters, and now hes gay. Just my thoughts.
#341 to #292 - nucularwar
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if it was how you were raised, then the guy with the manly dad would be manly.
#306 to #292 - monkee
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I think it's the other way around, your sexual orientation is decided before you're even born which affects your life decisions. If you look up some of the info into brain sexing, you'll find most gay males have brains very similar to that of a female. No one theory fits everything, but I would see this as the reason your cousin avoided his manly man father before he himself knew he was gay.
#366 to #306 - angrytoilet
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Male brains and females brains are remarkably different. Gay male brains only share one trait with female brains, and that is a relatively small hypothalamus.
#36 - hopskotch
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I feel the presence of homosexual characteristics in other species is some good evidence leaning in the genetics arguments' favor. I don't personally care either way, whatever makes ya'll happy.
#51 to #36 - anon
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Wouldn't that make homosexuality a mental illness?

No offense.
#52 to #51 - hopskotch
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I wouldn't say mental illness is the right term. A different from the majority that are heterosexual, yes, but "illness" refers to an affliction.
#158 to #52 - angrytoilet
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A more appropriate analogy would be eye color. A far smaller percentage of people have blue or green eyes than brown eyes. This can be related to a far smaller percentage of people being homosexual than heterosexual. It's genetic variation, plain and simple. And, because we no longer have to worry about natural predators and reproduction is not so urgent a drive to continue the species, heterosexuality has little evolutionary superiority as it comes to humans in this epoch.
#211 to #158 - hopskotch
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Perfectly said
#263 - anon
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Its awful when a 21 year old guy can get his life ruined by a lying 17 year old.
#28 - anon
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The whole premise of 'choice or genetic' is stupid. We don't know whether it is a genetic trait, or situational from upbringing or some sort of unconscious 'choice.' If a 'gay gene' were found then that would end the debate but it hasn't so it's incorrect to make the assertion that it is (Thats not how the scientific process works folks.)

With that said, why the **** does it matter HOW it comes about? Homosexuality really should be a non-issue because the only people that have problems with it are bigotted idiots basing their thoughts on fear or archaic ********. By even trying to combat the 'It's a choice and therefore somehow bad!' brigade by saying - without the proper evidence - that it's genetic, you simply fuel the bigot fire. What you should say instead is 'So ******* what?'
#57 to #28 - feelythefeel
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

It's not cemented, but completely scoffing off the idea of a "gay gene" (Which in and of itself is a gross over simplification of the subject) is just stupid.
#88 to #57 - anon
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Way to completely miss his point. He was pointing out that it's redundant to even acknowledge someones negative oppinion and give them a debate because it's an inherantly flawed perspective to begin with. There's also no 'scoffing' at the idea, but a simple statement that it hasn't yet been discovered or proven to a scientific standard and therefore should not be presented as such. That is what separates science from bigotry.
#91 to #88 - feelythefeel
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I'm not denying his other points (I in fact agree with them), I'm just saying that he should treat the idea of a "gay gene" with a little more validity.
#303 - dinosaurballs
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I don't understand why homosexuality CAN'T be a choice. A lot of lesbians go gay because men don't cut it or something traumatizing has happened to them involving men. They can choose to trust men again and keep being straight or they can choose to drop the D completely and go gay. I suppose it's the same for gay men as well. Sometimes people are just horny son of bitches that'll **** anyone and all it ever is about is sex, not necessarily "preference" whether or not the sex their having at the time is homo or hetero. I don't think homosexuality is something that's genetic or passed on through family but I do believe it can be developed in your chemistry or mind set when you're a kid. Anyway, Christians who are well educated in their religion don't actually care about what you do in bed or who you do it with. They aren't all bigots...
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#113 - angelmatvey
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a god who cares about petty things like the sexual orientation of humans isn't a god I'd like to worship
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#343 - KungFuZerO
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This is just a guess, so feel free to critique, but I feel like although homosexuality is almost never a choice, it can be. My sister was born with a bad set of genetics that make her physically unattractive to men (dark arm/leg/facial hair, medically untreatable acne, relatively tall, etc) and she has recently come out after living in an all-female co-op. My guess is that her lack of male attention her whole life and her feeling of acceptance and belonging with rougher, manlier women has led to her choosing to be gay. I could be completely wrong about it too.
#315 - jackbrook
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things will only ever happen one way. if you played the same scenario out a million times, with every variable kept exactly the same each time, all of them will be identical. so choice is an illusion and that goes for everything and everyone. we make decisions based on past influences, events, and actions - and since these will never be any different, our present choices are inevitable.

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#362 to #315 - faroeseguy
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what about flipping a coin?
what about flipping a coin?
#370 to #362 - jackbrook
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well if you played the EXACT same scenario of flipping the coin over and over again, it would always flip in the same way, and land on the same side.
#309 - skubasteve
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For a majority it isn't a choice. But for a few they make it one, because they are attention whoring little divas.
#279 - roflcopterkklol **User deleted account**
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I have no idea what is going on here.
#272 - anon
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God does not command what is shameful. Both sins this man is discussing are shameful and abominations. This is where Satan comes in. Inviting people to sin. That is where free will comes into play. You have the choice to do so or not. Satan can only invite you to sin, he can not force you. That goes for every and any type of evil sin you can think of. Be it big or small. Allah knows best.
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