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User avatar #472 - jewsburninindaoven (06/14/2013) [-]
I've heard stories about the University of Cincinnati. And these stories corroborate this statistic of 1 in 4. The RA's are trained on how to help rape victims.
User avatar #478 to #472 - reginleif (06/14/2013) [-]
data bro, we need data. I heard stories that corroborate the existence of Bigfoot.

User avatar #510 to #478 - tombombadil (06/14/2013) [-]
I'd like to point out that rape has been confirmed.

Bigfoot has not.

(But when they discover bigfoot, you should tell me.)
User avatar #513 to #510 - reginleif (06/14/2013) [-]
rape has, the prevalence of it has not.

My point still stands.
User avatar #516 to #513 - tombombadil (06/14/2013) [-]
Okay, I know anecdotal evidence isn't exactly sound, but a friend of mine said that he was friends with like, three different girls that had been raped when they were in college. That's just the ones who told him. Sure he could've known a lot of people, but still. Its hard to dispute the fact that a lot of sexual assault goes on when there are a lot of college students who leave with stories about SOMEONE they know getting raped/assaulted. Since there is a small number of people who actually report it, the people the victims trust is sort of your only way to gauge it.
User avatar #518 to #516 - reginleif (06/14/2013) [-]
I know anecdotal evidence is bad..... but here's some anecdotal evidence.

That's all I heard buddy.

I am willing to agree with you that a significant (not putting a number here) portion of rapes go unreported..... but because we must go on numbers.... the numbers agree with OP and not the feminists.

The feminists throw the one in three number around, I simply ask for the data and the collection method..... basically what I'm getting out of everyone is.

"Well we know rapes are unreported, so it must be a huge number".

;/ forgive me for not falling for that bad logic.
User avatar #521 to #518 - tombombadil (06/14/2013) [-]
I get what you're saying, but at the same time, I feel like we've all come to trust the system of studies to prove things like this too much. Nowadays its like "I know that telling someone you were raped is sort of a big deal emotionally, but I'm going to need some evidence before I believe you. Come back when you've gotten it proven by the CDC." Plus, OP provided no source at all, and he posted two private colleges, which probably have less of a population inclined to rape each other.

Not to mention, when someone starts a study, they're going to sway the results in a manner that they want it. I'd rather go off of "man, we all know a lot of people who say they've been raped. We should do something about this." than "X in Y people were assaulted this year"

I'm not saying that the feminists are right for throwing such a potentially inflated number around, but I don't think people are handling the severity of something such as rape correctly either.
User avatar #524 to #521 - reginleif (06/14/2013) [-]
I apologize for the tone of that response, I didn't mean it to sound quite as nasty as it did in retrospect.

Rape is a significant problem in college campuses, I think we both can agree on this. One rape is too much.

However I'm not willing to put a number on something I have no idea of, and can't reasonably measure.

I'd have a lot more respect for these movements if they focused more on the feeling behind their actions instead of trying to dazzle people with statistics or pseudo scientific findings (not related, but also something that annoys me.)

@Comment about the CDC: But see I prefer those more objective standards, than the ones activist groups use, sure it may leave other types of abuse out, but in my opinion you can't have a good poll without standardizing the question.

@Comment about studies: I also fundamentally disagree that people ought to go perform a study with an agenda or spin information, if you're going to carry the mantle of science, or at the very least scientific polling.... then it needs to be done right, otherwise not only do you lose credibility, but people start to lose credibility in scientific polls.

User avatar #525 to #524 - tombombadil (06/14/2013) [-]
Yeah, I'll agree with all of those points.

My issue is that there seem to be a lot of men who feel like rape is okay because they feel like it's getting back at women for....something. It's just odd to me how often you hear "She deserved it!"
Dude? She got raped. No one deserves that.

As far as the statistics go, every one in this post is probably very manipulated. That being said, we could probably go to help women come out and speak about assault/rape instead of letting the rapist get away with it. True, there will be cases that won't be able to be proven with DNA and such and there will be a lot of "This guy did it." And there will probably be a lot of people lying about being raped because someone pissed them off. Those crazy chicks will be the minority though. The very very loud minority.
#469 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
But 60% of rape victims report it, asshole.
#470 to #469 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
I, uh, mean don't report it...
#464 - turbodoosh (06/14/2013) [-]
As a matter of fact most people who go to college get raped on a monthly basis..by student loans
#463 - dinkeldurp (06/14/2013) [-]
You are welcome to take your right to free speech and shove it up your arse. Facebook is a private company. They make the rules. If you don't like, you are most welcome to leave
#458 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
Very few rapes are actually reported, ****** . There is a reason Facebook might not allow **** like this post. Wake the **** up
User avatar #453 - ponchosdm (06/14/2013) [-]
well divorces technically the man get raped finnancially by woman...
#452 - sonicserver (06/14/2013) [-]
honestly. who gives a **** if they lie about how many women are being raped. one woman being raped is one too many. what difference does it make to you if it's actually 500 and they say 50,000. that's still 500 more than there should be.

besides. none of this gets at the heart of how to end the rape of females in our culture. people have got to stop focusing on females being able to protect themselves (because they physically cant in the vast majority of cases), and start putting the emphasis of the anti-rape movement on educating men as to what rape is, why men rape women, how they get to that point, and how they can (yes, it's possible) unintentionally rape a girl/woman. personally, i'd rather hold my nut than cause any kind of psychological distress to anyone. it's just a goddam nut. like it'll never happen again.

TLR: this is ******** , the feminism movement is ******** , rape is ******** , it's all ******** .
User avatar #487 to #452 - dekyrptonian (06/14/2013) [-]
is that a conspiracy i hear?
User avatar #515 to #487 - sonicserver (06/14/2013) [-]
no, it's logic. i know it's hard to recognize.
User avatar #442 - rapebear (06/14/2013) [-]
Rape culture isn't ******** . Most of these "feminists" are hated by actually feminists because they hurt all civil causes. Rape culture isn't just about rape, it's about how people (men and women) continue to make bodies objects and possessions and not human beings.
Bring on the red thumbs.
#436 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
Wow. And here we`d gone three whole days without anti-feminist posts on the front page.

C-C-C-Combo breaker?
#435 - bigpear (06/14/2013) [-]
What no rape jokes? I guess ill have to force some.
#434 - Lintutu (06/14/2013) [-]
#433 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
Its 20x more funny because Carnegie Melon is full of Indian men
User avatar #432 - baine (06/14/2013) [-]
My mom says feminism is the biggest joke women have ever made since eve ate the fruit.
User avatar #415 - shinypokemans (06/14/2013) [-]
No OP, 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted in their lives. 1 in 6 will be raped.


Also, you only used examples of 3 colleges, and high end ones at that. If you'd actually put some effort into your statistics, such as using more colleges and different standards of colleges, you'd get very different results.
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User avatar #438 to #426 - sailorstarsun (06/14/2013) [-]
You say "most women" as if you actually know most women.
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#455 to #451 - sonicserver (06/14/2013) [-]
so you make retarded generalist statements often?
#424 to #415 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
No only that, but theirs a difference in reported rapes and actual rapes...
User avatar #422 to #415 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Sexual assault is incredibly vague.

People shouting "Ayo honey, back dat ass up!" counts as verbal sexual assault...

took a soc. course which kinda bugged me when it tried to pass that off as legitimate assault... Even worse when everyone was agreeing... even the guys...
User avatar #425 to #422 - shinypokemans (06/14/2013) [-]
Catcalling is a verbal assault. It's not a compliment to leer at a woman you've never met and creepily tell her how much you want to have sex with her. Of course it's not nearly as bad as (legitimate) rape, but it's still awkward and creepy as **** . I know a lot of guys mean it as a compliment, but it almost never comes out that way.
#459 to #425 - verby ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Catcalling is sexual harrasment. Sexual assault is " unwanted intentional sexual contact characterized by the use of force or when the victim does not or cannot consent." I would know I sat through the SAPR brief like 20 ******* times
User avatar #429 to #425 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
It just feels so misleading... When I imagine sexual assault I imagine groping or some kind of situation where a woman is completely compromised and helpless but not quite to the degree of rape...

saying some lewd comments... eh... I mean... just have some thick skin y'know? Guys say stupid **** to each other all the time, putting women on a pedestal seems kinda off. Why treat them any different than men?
User avatar #440 to #429 - shinypokemans (06/14/2013) [-]
It's not really putting women on a pedestal, it's telling women to watch out for themselves. Guys saying stupid stuff to guys is a whole different situation than guys saying stupid stuff to girls. Women have been told since childhood to watch out for strange men, and that guys are only after sex. Yes, most catcalling doesn't lead to rape, but most women are raped by men, and they don't want to take the chance.

Every woman I've known hasn't taken a catcaller to court with an assault charge. They'd just like the guy to stop so that they can get along with their day.
User avatar #450 to #440 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Most men are raped by women but no one likes to talk about that.

What you'd like and what you should enforce through law and rallies are two different things.

What you're implying is that freedom of speech be curtailed because it makes women uncomfortable. Why not help women understand that there's a fine line between a rapist and an idiot. Maybe if we remove this culture of man hate and fear women won't feel so threatened every time someone whistles in their direction. Take it as the idiotic compliment that it is and move on.

Legitimate rape and assault are horrible things, but more and more women are become enticed by this crazy feminist notion of the sex driven man. That men need to be controlled, that men are only after sex. That men are animals. The worst of which will make such great comments as "I'm a feminist because while everyone knows no means no, sometimes yes means no too".

People need to know where to draw the line between helping legitimate victims and discriminating against men. Not all men are rapists and thugs. Catcalls and lewd comments are not sexual assault.
User avatar #466 to #450 - shinypokemans (06/14/2013) [-]
Can I get a statistic on how men are raped by more women than men? Because I have heard that most male rapes come from other males while in prison. I'm not saying that the rape of men isn't important to take into consideration; it completely is and all real feminists are working to end it as well. It's just that I think your statistic is skewed.

I did not imply that we have a culture of man hate and fear. I said that women have to watch themselves and be on guard. Women are more likely to be physically assaulted than men, so it only makes sense that women should be weary of verbal assault as well. Most women don't have the notion of "the sex driven man," but when some guy is leaning out of his truck making racy comments at you, it can get pretty damn threatening. How a woman reacts or feels in one high-stress situation doesn't influence how she lives her normal life.
User avatar #480 to #466 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
So all those Liberal Arts majors are walking by construction sites and depots where trucks refuel right?

What I'm trying to get across is that "more likely" may be true, but "more likely" is still much less likely than people are being lead to believe. The extension of the definition of assault is part in parcel to the misconception. Persistent sexually indecent comments made in a threatening manner are completely different from a catcall in the same way that raping a girl is different from the girl getting hammered and having sex with a guy that she regrets later. You don't need to make mountains out of mole hills. Radical feminists keep trying to make the issues seem bigger than they really are. This isn't helping the cause it's just creating unnecessary fear and distrust of men.

Look at how you're portraying the life of a woman. You make it seem like she's fighting battles just to walk outside. This is NOT causal day of a woman. Some women, yes. But the idea that these kinds of situations are present all over in horrifying numbers is a gross exaggeration. 1 in 4 women are going to be sexually assaulted in their life time in North America. Let's just deal with Canada. We have 35 million people. That's 17.5 million women. You are saying around 4.5 million women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.

They will be repeatedly harassed in a sexual manner to the point where they feel worthless and ashamed. They will be dominated, though not to the extent of rape, to the extent of severe emotional trauma. 4.5 million women in Canada alone.

That's a 7th of the population. Do you think that's not a bit of an exaggeration? Do you think telling women that a 7th of the population and a quarter of women are sexually assaulted has no effect on their perception and inherent fear of men?

Exaggerating numbers doesn't help a cause it just leads to distrust and hate. That's all I've been trying to say tonight.
#462 to #450 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
Let me guess - you've never in your life received a catcall or lewd comment in public that made you feel uncomfortable and ashamed of yourself.
User avatar #471 to #462 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Ashamed of yourself... because positive attention albeit idiotic attention would for some odd reason evoke SHAME...
User avatar #492 to #471 - pickingAnameSUCKS (06/14/2013) [-]
If people can be offended by it, prepare for it to be illegal. People are too ******* stupid to understand that you CAN just brush things off and ignore them. Because they AREN'T right just because they're offended by it. Because 'MURICA: The land of the fat, and the home of the easily offended crybabies. Nobody wants the truth, they just want things their way.
That being said, Their ARE times verbal assault is a very real problem: when it's consistent, when it's extreme, and when it gets to be more than verbal. Get some common sense people.
User avatar #495 to #492 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Reminds me of Louis CK and his idea of first world problems

See people in North America have it so ******* good they don't have anything real to complain about anymore. Like, a kid in Africa will complain that its been 3 days since his last meal. A guy in America will complain that ATM's only give out 20's! How dare those machines not give out 50's or 10's! I'm a god damn American, I pay my taxes, I deserve different increment choices!

It just bugs me that women willingly victimize themselves. These guys are idiots but they don't mean harm, yet women convince themselves that they are rapists waiting to happen and that catcall was just moments away from rape... It's not healthy and its because a small, radical contingent of the feminist population controls the nature of feminist activism.

These are the lesbians with serious man issues (not saying all lesbians are like this, just a contingent of them) and the unemployed and usually single Women's Lib. student with a chip on her shoulder. They spread propoganda and fear because they feel like it empowers women when in reality they're portraying women as weak and in need of government protection.

If a guy says "Ayo baby, you wan' sum **** ?" just shout back "Suck a ******* chode you cockmongling piece of **** !"

Bam! Problem solved. If the guy persists then you can pull out the pepper spray and start considering labelling it as assault, but teaching women that just making the comment in the first place was assault is just leading them down the road to becoming the dainty little flowers of the '50's who would jump on chair's and squeal for daddy to kill the mice. Only this time they'll be jumping on soap-boxes telling government to imprison (or kill!) the men who offend them.
User avatar #505 to #495 - pickingAnameSUCKS (06/14/2013) [-]
Well, maybe someday things will turn around and people will start realizing what's going on...
Being a bit more realistic though, things will probably just keep getting worse.
User avatar #508 to #505 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
I just want the radical contingent to go too far and become the new westboro baptist church.

I was proper studies to be made with proper definitions for the terms rape and assault. I want them to be regional studies not broad ones like "1/4 North Americans". When stuff like this comes out the upper middle class white women won't be as afraid of the rape that they'll probably never experience and the real victims will be able to actually receive the help they need in a targetted manner.
#479 to #471 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
some creep wolf whisling at a chick is not "positive attention. it makes women feel shameful because it's making them feel like a piece of meat without enough wax paper covering them up. it's calling attention to their bodies and for SOME REASON women might not want that
User avatar #482 to #479 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Not buying it.

I'm just trying so hard to imagine... Some fat chick sitting on a bench being all like "Woo man! Damn you're fine, I know I'd like to party with you tonight!"

Ya she's gross. Ya it's weird. But have some thick skin. Blow it off like the grown up you are. Or would you prefer that freedom of speech be curtailed to make you feel more comfortable?

Lewd comments don't need to make you feel bad. But media, feminist activists, and society in general have instilled in us this shame in sexual attention. To be complimented for your sexual appeal is apparently something you should feel shame for. Not only that, but those who say sexually indecent things are committing assault far worse than that of the westboro baptist church of which the rights of free speech are always defended.

Don't get me wrong. I don't approve of catcalling. But there are things to be traumatized by and things not to be traumatized by. The off-handed sexual remark by a stranger that you'll never see again is not one of those things to dwell on.
User avatar #405 - meganinja (06/14/2013) [-]
Along with what everybody else is saying about women not reporting rape, there are also 2 flaws with your example. First off, you only used three specific colleges, which makes me suspiscious about whether you may have used the ones with lower rape figures, or if they were the only colleges with figures available.

Also, when it said "by the time they finish college", I don't think it meant during their college career, I think it meant from the time they're born to the time they're finished with college.

Also your profanity may have been the reason it was taken off Facebook. You sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist that thinks that everything that happens points toward feminists dominating our society. No. Only feminazis agree with feminazis, nobody else actually takes them very seriously.
User avatar #411 to #405 - meganinja (06/14/2013) [-]
Also what a company does not allow you to say on their website is not your free speech being taken away. Companies can not be forced to let you say something using their company as a medium for your speech.

Sorry if I sound butthurt, i'm not, but you have a horrible argument.
User avatar #397 - unncommon (06/14/2013) [-]
Okay OP, what kind of rape jokes ya' looking for?

Drunk rape jokes
Children rape jokes
Church rape jokes
Transvestite rape jokes
Celebrity rape jokes
Ancient Egyptian rape jokes?
Penguin rape jokes?
Baby rape jokes?
Pre-marital rape jokes?
Police rape jokes?
Xbox One rape jokes?
UFC rape jokes?
Cookie-cutter rape jokes?
Clint Eastwood rape jokes?
Cosmic dust trail rape jokes?
okay I'm done, I'm sorry...
User avatar #402 to #397 - teranin ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
The content says there are no rape jokes within the content. It does not claim that no rape jokes exist.
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User avatar #388 - Loppytaffy (06/14/2013) [-]
Can we take a moment for all the poor males that are horrendously raped, sodomised, and overlooked because feminists believe men cannot be raped?

Honestly, I'm sure even women woudl agree that if they were to be raped, they'd rather it be the front than the back. I know I would.
User avatar #439 to #388 - candance (06/14/2013) [-]
Actually true feminists are very focused on ending rape in general not just for women. Feminism is about equality and the right to live safely in your environment for all genders (including ones that don't fit on the out dated binary system). I think a big issue is men don't view rape as rape. If asked almost all my male friends if a women drugged him or held him down somehow and raped him would he view it as rape (which I very much think it is) and they pretty much had the "didn't matter , had sex" mentality. Maybe they would feel different if a male raped them, but I just know it's a highly unreported crime due to the embarrassment factor that men feel (which is sad bc you should never feel embarrassed by someone committing a violent crime against you), which I think leads to a lack of communication and awareness about it.
User avatar #421 to #388 - writeroftoast (06/14/2013) [-]
The problem is that all feminists - the radical, extremists (who are unfortunately the loudest, as they are with any group) and the average feminist who believes in gender equality - are all lumped together under one group.

I consider myself a feminist, and of course, of course, males are raped. As well as people who don't identify along the gender binary. I am in no way trying to erase the non-women who are raped.

However, statistically speaking, women are raped at considerably higher rates, and this why many discussions of rape tend to center around women.
User avatar #417 to #388 - shinypokemans (06/14/2013) [-]
That's very true. Real feminists are working to end all rape.


According to this, 1 in 10 rape victims were male, which is about 3% of all American men. That's a sizeable portion, which must be taken into consideration.
User avatar #410 to #388 - slapchoppin (06/14/2013) [-]
i feel like being male and being raped in the front would be worse than getting raped in the back
#400 to #388 - veryspecialagent (06/14/2013) [-]
How many times do I have to apologize loppy?! I'm SORRY! I thought you were saying oooh ohhh. not nooo, nooooo!
User avatar #536 to #400 - Loppytaffy (06/14/2013) [-]
If it weren't rape, I'd much prefer it in the back. But without proper preparation...I mean...it's like like jumping on a bouncy castle before it's inflated; you know it can be fun when it's ready, but until then you're only gonna get hurt.
#387 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
I see a lot of people talking about drunk women saying yes, and then regretting it in the morning.
Now, I've been thinking about it, and here's what I've come up with. Let's just all stay the hell away from drunk chicks. I mean, think about it, nothing good ever comes from hooking up with drunk chicks.
Either you get blamed for rape when she said yes and regrets it, or you wake up in the morning and she's ugly as hell and stalks you for a month.
So just as an overall general rule, let's keep the hell away from drunk chicks.
User avatar #423 to #387 - writeroftoast (06/14/2013) [-]
The fact of the matter is, if a person is heavily intoxicated, that person CANNOT consent to sex, even if they say yes.

That's it. Easy solution: Don't take advantage of intoxicated people, men or women. Don't rape.

Having sex with a person who is really ****** up is a despicable thing to do.
#461 to #423 - verby ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
And if it ever does happen, ensure that you are also ********* so that you can claim you were the one being raped
User avatar #489 to #461 - writeroftoast (06/14/2013) [-]
Okay well, I mean, I guess so.....??

But my point isn't that you shouldn't do it because you might get in trouble.

You shouldn't do it because having sex with someone who's heavily intoxicated is a horrible, ****** up thing to do.
#529 to #489 - verby ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
it was jokes
User avatar #428 to #423 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
I completely agree with you. I think that having common sense it the best protection. Use your judgement. Think about a mother or a sister. Would you be okay with someone getting down with them if they were as ****** up as the person you're trying to get with?
#391 to #387 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
yeah you know except for the sex and when it's a hot chick and when it's a good looking chick and you end up hooking up a few more times and become **** buddies, but besides that awesome stuff nothing good comes from it.
User avatar #394 to #391 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
Yeah, I'll admit that would be pretty sweet.

But on the opposite end of the spectrum, said drunk chick wakes up in the morning and accuses you of rape because she regrets it. It's a little bit of a gamble.
#404 to #394 - Rascal (06/14/2013) [-]
Well roll the dice, if you never play you'll never win.

On a more serious note though you can usually tell when a chick has had too much too drink and it's pretty easy to avoid those types of girls, know when to hold em, know when to fold em
User avatar #408 to #404 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
That's definitely true. If she has 19 beer cans laying around her, probably a good idea to stay the **** away.

I wish you luck in your endeavors, friend.
#390 to #387 - paracelsus (06/14/2013) [-]
Your views on this matter make me think you might not have a whole lot of experience with the issue
User avatar #393 to #390 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
I'm not saying they're not accountable for their actions, because they are.

What I'm saying is a whole ********* could be avoided if you at least try to avoid drunk chicks, especially ones that seem...shifty.
#403 to #393 - paracelsus (06/14/2013) [-]
Yeah, good luck with the whole "avoiding drunk chicks" thing. As a man in college, let me assure you its nowhere near that easy
User avatar #407 to #403 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
I am in college. I'm just a severe recluse, and I don't go to parties. When I do get drunk, it's with close friends and maybe a few acquaintances.

All I'm saying is I've never been accused of rape using this tactic.
#412 to #407 - paracelsus (06/14/2013) [-]
neither have I. Its nowhere near as common as you probably think. That being said, it does happen, and is still an issue you have to be aware of
User avatar #413 to #412 - thecharliesheen (06/14/2013) [-]
Well, I was just saying because this website seems to think it's pretty common.

It was just some advice on being really careful. You don't have to follow it if you don't want, I guess. To each his own, friend.
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