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#199 - maxsexington
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(06/13/2013) [-]
This city needs a better class of console
#204 to #199 - merrymarvelite
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And I'm going to give it to them.
#146 - breaken ONLINE
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(06/13/2013) [-]
There is no way they said that...
#151 to #146 - penguinsarecool
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(06/13/2013) [-]
he did, just saw the video
#153 to #151 - breaken ONLINE
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How stupid are these people.
#155 to #153 - penguinsarecool
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beyond belief. i hope no one buys their console and they fail epicely.
#212 to #155 - mcknyte
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They've already moved most of the pre-order stock. THEY HAVE TO MAKE MORE
#160 to #155 - stocxt
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Too bad chances are a lot of people are still going to by it.
#165 to #160 - mutzaki ONLINE
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Yeah, unfortunately. Way too many Xbros who don't even care about the product, and only the brand.
#157 to #155 - breaken ONLINE
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This will be interesting to see how consumers respond.
#158 to #157 - penguinsarecool
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too bad xbox fan boys still exist
#166 to #158 - breaken ONLINE
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True, but that is still a small percentage.
#170 to #166 - kingultra ONLINE
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I want to punch this smug ****** in the face but i'm still buying the damn console for the games.
#175 to #170 - breaken ONLINE
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Exclusives saved it, but it's still not for everyone. That price point is gona make a big difference. Also how is the "cloud processing" gona work if your internet is crap.
#177 to #152 - breaken ONLINE
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Ho ly crap
#172 to #146 - osimonmagus
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Even the interviewer laughed at disbelief.
Viacom and Microsoft tried their hardest to erase the videos but the internet caused it to spread WAY too fast. People just kept uploading the video over and over again on multiple channels and websites.
Do.not.****.with.your.consumers.
#50 - LiveDie
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Did they seriously say this on camera?
#307 - anon
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(06/13/2013) [-]
I'll just stick with my PC lol.
#319 to #307 - tmdarby
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Me too, i kind of picture us pc gamers watching this debate like this....
Me too, i kind of picture us pc gamers watching this debate like this....
#242 - pulluspardus
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Don Mattrick always been a jerk, even when he was in EA.
#105 - killerblue
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#456 - wonderlandian
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(06/14/2013) [-]
New gaming console?

why not zoidberg?
#119 - pvtdancer
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Fortunately, there is a product for people who aren't able to stay connected!

It's called a PS4

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#173 - yuukoku
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So, basically, they're telling us that if we honestly can't use their device, we should **** off?

Oh, I'm switching to Sony. I'm switching to Sony RIGHT NOW.
#195 to #173 - methirtyseven
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He's saying if you can't use the device, don't buy it. What would be the point?
#200 to #195 - yuukoku
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No, he's saying that if we can't use it, still buy a Microsoft product because there seems to be nothing better than Microsoft products (sarcasm).

That's not going to help them for business. We know that we're not going to buy it if we can't use it. We're not going to go buy an Xbox 360 or keep playing our old ones because we love Microsoft so much. We're going to go get another ******* next gen console so that we can play the next gen games that we ******* want to play and there's nothing they can do about it. Sony and Nintendo are going to support most of the games that we want to play, so we might as well go for them if Microsoft is too stuck-up to let us play on the Xbox.
#215 to #200 - methirtyseven
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The point is, he was asked, in an interview, what Microsoft will do about people without a reliable internet connection. He didn't come out and say that "We have this amazing device that people can buy". The fact is he answered the question that he was directed. Sure if you "need" a next gen system, but don't have reliable internet, you should go for the PS4. No one is arguing that point. But he can't just tell you to buy the competitors machine. Nor would that have answered the question
#220 to #215 - yuukoku
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Exactly, which is why Microsoft should have not required that we have internet access to use their product. Then they would never have been in the situation to be asked that question.
#229 to #220 - methirtyseven
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No, they are well within their rights to make a console that is designed to work with the internet. They are innovating and moving forward with new ideas. People are still ultimately allowed to make their own choice on consoles.
#297 to #229 - thewaronbeingcool
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How is it an innovation if it offers no benefit to the consumer whatsoever?
#303 to #297 - methirtyseven
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It does offer a benefit to the consumer. Storing your games digitally saves space and allows you to access it all without carrying everything with you. Being able to keep your games despite the physical wear and tear on the disc. The seamless transition between games and judging from their sale a couple months back, the possible opportunity to offer discounts on their games such as steam does
#304 to #303 - thewaronbeingcool
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But all of that could be offered without forcing you to connect once a day.

Like a smartphone or something. Yeah, it's infinitely better if it's connected, but it doesn't have to be.
#308 to #304 - methirtyseven
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I actually agree with the 24 hour thing being somewhat excessive. I do see them changing that in the future, but not removing it completely. It is a core part of the Xbox One to be connected to the internet, and they aren't going to change that, especially as almost ~80% of the people complaining are not even going to be affected by it. Because they are complaining about it. On the internet. Daily
#311 to #308 - thewaronbeingcool
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I have good internet, I'm just worried about what will happen to my games when Microsoft switches off the servers in 10 years to focus on the xbox two.
#317 to #311 - methirtyseven
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But that won't happen. The point in focusing on improving their live service is that it will be maintained through the next generation. The only scenario in which the servers will shut down and no one will be able to play their games is the extremely unlikely event that Microsoft goes out of business. It's the same (unlikely) risk people take when using Steam
#324 to #317 - thewaronbeingcool
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Well with Steam at least Valve has said they'll make a way for you to play your games without it should they ever need to shut it down.

Of course if they didn't do that, I'd still be able to find all my old games on pirate bay or something.
#331 to #324 - methirtyseven
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They also haven't specified in any way what that would entail. If they went out of business they would have no feasible way of ensuring that everyone will still have access to all the games tied to their steam account.
#332 to #331 - thewaronbeingcool
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Well like I said, there's still pirate bay.
#337 to #332 - methirtyseven
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Which isn't an issue until such time that Microsoft/Valve goes out of business.
#341 to #337 - thewaronbeingcool
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Well yeah I guess. But I'm hesitant to trust Microsoft, considering my XBLA games won't carry over to the Xbone.
#348 to #341 - methirtyseven
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(06/13/2013) [-]
I understand and fully support not trusting companies like Microsoft. It's the opposite though, the blind hate towards them, that's just been annoying me about people over the last few weeks
#236 to #229 - yuukoku
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Yeah, and most people are not going to choose the Xbox One because of the required internet. There are people who travel and take it with them to hotels or just don't want to always be on the internet or have bad connection, etc, etc. Don't you think that consistent internet thing will hinder them?

It would be moving forward with new ideas if everybody agreed to it. If Nintendo and Sony both agreed to do the same thing, then maybe Microsoft would not see this mass exodus of people leaving them for their competitors. It's an innovative idea, yes, but it's innovation for the sake of innovation. It was not going to make them money, it was not going to make gaming easier, it's just pushing people away and making more hoops to jump through before we can just play out ******* games.
#250 to #236 - methirtyseven
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So your saying that it's only okay to innovate if everyone is doing it? I hope you see how silly that statement is. If that were the case, nothing would get done. And it is going to make them money. People are still going to buy this console overwhelmingly. The people that travel around a lot are not the mass consumer base that you're making out that they are. And improvements to technology should not have to wait for the minority.
#259 to #250 - yuukoku
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You're not seeing what I'm telling you. If they do this while nobody else is, it will most likely fail. Not only are people afraid of new things, it's simply more difficult to use than the products of competitors. Most people I know on Xbox are going to switch to PS4 when it comes out.

I never said that innovation should only be done with the consent of others! You're not getting it! I'm saying that innovation should not be done just for the hell of it. Granted that our culture is becoming more centered around the internet, Microsoft should not have made this decision because it's too early. We're not ready for always being connected yet and I think that by forcing it on people, Microsoft has opened the idea to always being viewed in a negative light.
#274 to #259 - methirtyseven
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It's not about not seeing what you're telling me. I understand it completely, it's just not pertinent. They aren't innovating for the hell of it. They're innovating because, as you said, we're becoming more centred around the internet. PC gaming made the leap years ago. Microsoft aren't the first to do it at all, but they are first to do it with console. Despite what all these people on the internet are decrying, the Xbox One will most likely not fail and go on to be a very successful machine. Putting your fingers in your ears and saying "nobody is going to want this, it will fail" is not going to change a thing.
#581 to #274 - yuukoku
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No, the PC doesn't require that you have internet! PCs have become very central around the internet, yes, but it doesn't require the internet to play absolutely every game. Why would you buy a console that is only somewhat functional as a console and somewhat functional as a PC if you're going to use it as a console? The fact that other consoles with the same games at lower prices with their own line of perks exist and are strongly contending with Microsoft's Xbox One is a great indication that people will probably not go with Xbox unless they hold some kind of cult-like attachment to it like people such as yourself. They'll find any reason they can to defend the illusion that they are using the better console because of some attachment they've made to the company or the console or some kind of investment they made with it and will not grow the nuts to switch to a better console for a better experience. I'm not going to change your mind, but I'm going to just let you know that you're brainwashed and let you sit on it for a while.
#588 to #581 - methirtyseven
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Where did you get the idea that other consoles are offering the same games at lower prices than the Xbox. That's pure nonsense. And how dare you call me brainwashed because I prefer the Xbox One. I happen to prefer it because not only do I buy all my games new anyway, I have a pretty strong internet connection and like the idea of being able to download games day one and have a digital library. PS4 is by no means a "better" console. Granted it is a good console, and a different experience, but it isn't better. I think you'll find I only started this comment chain because you were claiming Don Mattrick was telling everyone "**** you". You were spreading sensationalist attacks against Microsoft because you have been swept up in the hate against them
#600 to #588 - yuukoku
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Once again, you aren't reading what I'm saying. I never once said the other consoles were offering games at lower prices. I said that the other consoles are cheaper. If you have been paying attention at all, you would notice that the PS4 is 100$ less than the Xbox One and the WiiU is being sold at retail presently for even less. I qualify the PS4 as better in that it doesn't require you to jump through hoops in order to play it. Furthermore, not everybody has the connection of the Gods as you do, and not everybody prefers a downloaded library of games over a physical library of games. I also think that you should consider that attacking Microsoft has become a sensation for a very good reason.
#601 to #600 - methirtyseven
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"The fact that other consoles with the same games at lower prices". You literally did say just that. If it's not what you meant, then you worded it badly, but you can't blame me for that. And peoples preferences isn't the point. If it was people would just choose the PlayStation 4 and be done with it. What is going on though is people attacking Microsoft for going in a different direction. The reason it's become a sensation is because people are easily swayed by large groups of people on the internet. No one is forcing you to buy an Xbox One, so you can't act like you're being personally insulted and inconvenienced by it.
#602 to #601 - yuukoku
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Please read the full sentence. If you'll notice, it was worded as a list with several points. The points of "same games," "at lower prices," and "line of perks," add up to "exists," which pertains to "other consoles." This is to be read as a list, not strung together. Think of the subject paired with each point separately, though it can be interpreted in either way based on how you read it. So, I technically can blame it on you seeing as though you simply interpreted it wrong.
I know how groupthink works. I don't need an explanation. The fact is that Microsoft made a decision that I and many other people out there feel was the wrong one. You feel like you are being some kind of "nonconformist" by not admitting that Microsoft has ****** us on this deal, but you're not. You're one of the inevitable minority that will defend Microsoft to the death because of some kind of blood oath you took to it.
It was flagrantly insulting that he would tell this guy off by saying that he should buy an Xbox 360 if he couldn't use Microsoft's Xbox One. I can't see how you can defend him after he basically told him that if he can't use Microsoft's Next-gen console, then **** off. This was a slap to the face and people are right to be outraged. I don't know how you could sit back, as a consumer, and take that.
I know that nobody's forcing it on me. That's not the point. The point is that this guy representing Microsoft just basically ignored a question. Yes, we know that we can play the ******* 360 to solve the problems caused by the new system, but we want to play the new system, not the ******* 360. It was a response that was insulting to our intelligence and he knew that. He just didn't care because Microsoft has ****** the group that does not want to use their new internet-based system.
#198 to #195 - corso ONLINE
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Basically a nicer way of saying what he just did.
#201 to #198 - methirtyseven
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Yes, but his way was making it out as if they were being intentionally antagonistic. This clearly isn't the case. They've made a device that has been designed to be used with the internet. He's saying that if you don't have internet, you shouldn't buy it. He isn't saying "lol, you don't have internet **** you".
#203 to #201 - corso ONLINE
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Knowing that they likely won't support the 360 for very long, it doesn't seem like he was saying something nice.
#209 to #203 - methirtyseven
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They've already come out and said that they plan to support the Xbox 360 for at least the next few years. And past then, who knows how they will have tweaked their system. It's new ground so there will likely be some changes involved up to and past release. He is basing it on current facts.
#437 - andyshandy
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#134 - foreverporkchop **User deleted account**
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(06/13/2013) [-]
I tried so hard to stick by Microsoft since the X1 announcement... and they did so well at E3... But I can't do it anymore. Already pre-ordered and paid off my PS4.
#139 to #134 - razzar
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It's 2k13 why even buy a console? Pc's are superior in every way, but it's your choice to waste your money on consoles
#159 to #139 - warwolfrider
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Because consoles get more games then PC now and some people just like siting down turning on the tv and pulling out a controller and having fun with there friends.... so how many friends can play at once on your gaming PC if you were to invite them over and have a LAN party ...oh im sorry just you ? well its a good thing you dont have friends...
#183 to #159 - articulate
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That's why I don't play console games*, because I dislike single player. I have Skyrim, but after ******* around with PC commands I stopped playing.

*not including portable consoles.

#171 to #159 - razzar
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So? Stick with the 360 then ;)
#143 to #139 - foreverporkchop **User deleted account**
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It's just my own preference. My PC isn't the best (inb4 'doesn't cost that much to upgrade your PC blahblah'), and I've grown up playing and watching friends on consoles. There's just some games I prefer plopping back with in my gaming chair, and many others (typically FPS) that a keyboard/mouse combo is the best for.
#178 to #143 - warwolfrider
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Mouse and Keyboard is Best when it comes to controlling and anyone who says otherwise is a ******* idiot But ive gotten so used to using a controller its gotten hard from me to get back in to my pc games now that i have a pc that can run the games i want to play don't like spend 1000-3000 every few years so my pc can handle a game and the is the real reason why people play consoles i spent 900 on my laptop and it just a OK gaming pc 6gb ram, 4core amd, 2gb amd video card or its a 1 gb dont remember just dont feel like checking...
#484 - tankijay
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(06/14/2013) [-]
I'm ripped up in a decision here.
My whole life I've been an Xbox fan, I got the original (still works too) and I have a 360 (up to my 3rd one, other two red ringed), but here is the problem.
I'm a huge Halo fan. I mean HUGE. Not so much of 4, but i played the **** out of the old ones, and I still wanna know what happens in the new ones.
BUT for what I use consoles for, I'm better off getting a PS4 because I know it's going to be so much better.
#488 to #484 - ishmari
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(06/14/2013) [-]
I'm in a similar situation, and it's killing me.
#492 to #484 - blarglestheclown
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well 5 is going to be more similar to 4 than 3 and 2......so If you didn't love 4 why buy a console you are hesitant over for 5?
#500 to #492 - tankijay
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I know the game will be similar, but I still want to experience the story of Chiefs fave getting ****** up, because that never happens.
#582 to #484 - AirborneAlpha
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Same but with Gears. I'm sticking. In college, I don't have much time to game anyway. The whole 'entertainment center' thing actually appeals to me greatly.
#445 - aeric
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(06/14/2013) [-]
Does Microsoft even want people to buy their Xbox One?

Are they even trying?
#453 to #445 - kittygerman [OP] ONLINE
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This is just my thought on this whole thing. Something tells me it's just one whole big business practice to see if people will still buy it by making is ****.
#524 to #445 - aldheim
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Presumably they're looking at a 'people will but this because it's our franchise' market rather than a 'people will buy this because it's good' market.

And the former market loves stupid gimmicks.
#531 to #524 - aeric
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(06/14/2013) [-]
That's honestly a horrible outlook :\
#532 to #531 - aldheim
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If it works, it works.
#384 - biggrand
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#240 - themtaw
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Anyone else think EA paid Microsoft to try and make them look better by comparison ?
#244 to #240 - pulluspardus
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Don worked for EA.
#243 to #240 - friendlyanonymous
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Notice EA cancelled online pass, and then the Xbox one is revealed with used game fees?
Then EA had a huge part of Microsofts event?
#211 - anonymouzx
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(06/13/2013) [-]
All the cons of the Xbox one won't affect me except that it is $100 more. I will get it only for gaming and that's it. Kinect isn't always on and watching you, and I want it for minecraft and halo. (I have minecraft on pc but still prefer xbox)
#223 to #211 - anonymouzx
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(06/13/2013) [-]
Though if I can play the Ps4 with the Xbox controller I may consider getting Ps4. I'm still not 100% but most likely i'll get the xbox one if I can't play ps4 with the controller.
#181 - vampireinarm
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(06/13/2013) [-]
*PS4
#174 - tenmillionbears
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(06/13/2013) [-]
This is pretty much MFW watching this video...
Even the way he says this phrase during the video, it's like he's just saying "I don't know what else to tell you, just **** you, you have to stay behind." Just makes me so mad..
#482 - awesomenessdefined
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(06/14/2013) [-]
Consumers think they're Microsoft's customers, but they aren't. Publishers are Microsoft's customers, you're they're customers' customers.