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User avatar #295 - allamericandude (05/18/2013) [-]
It's only very rarely that people actually go to war over their religion. The vast majority of wars are about land, resources, power, etc. Religion just colors the jerseys. Jews, Christians, and Muslims used to live perfectly well together--even in Palestine, of all places--because they realized that trading with each other was better than killing each other.

Trade is the world's greatest peacemaker.
#276 - confusedasian (05/18/2013) [-]
Religious battles are so entertaining though.
Religious battles are so entertaining though.
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#304 - phoenixtc (05/18/2013) [-]
Heretic you say?
Heretic you say?
User avatar #294 - unoriginalaccount (05/18/2013) [-]
So are we ignoring the fact that this guy is ******* immortal or what?
#331 to #294 - giustobuffo (05/19/2013) [-]
I know, bro. I was like "That's gotta be damn close to 2,000 years right there, and he just changes his outfit but won't age."
#204 - ewqua (05/18/2013) [-]
I actually believe that there is some kind of power that created us for a purpose (even if the purpose is to watch how stupid we are), I just don't believe it's some father-figure who simply said "So be it." and so it was.
What does it make me? An atheist? Or agnostic? I don't know...
Anyway, the idea of religion was very nice, how people wanted an explanation over everything that happened, but human nature turned it into a complete ********* and meaningless wars. (As it did with almost everything.)
(pic kinda related, it's how I imagine the controlling force)
#263 to #204 - drooms ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
How I imagine it
How I imagine it
User avatar #351 to #204 - RandomAnonGuy (05/19/2013) [-]
You believe there was an external entity that created the universe but is currently unconcerned with our existence?
Deism.
You believe it is concerned with our existence?
Theism.
An unnamed god is still a god.
User avatar #354 to #351 - ewqua (05/19/2013) [-]
To be honest, I don't know which one I believe in. Thank you for enlightening though.
#328 - arrrbie (05/19/2013) [-]
hey whats going on in the.....comments...
hey whats going on in the.....comments...
#332 to #328 - SemiAnon (05/19/2013) [-]
Intellectual debate, of course!
User avatar #274 - konradkurze (05/18/2013) [-]
mainstream religions were created as an extension of the state
when it became clear that not all men would bow to man's laws, the powers that be created religion to make all fear the invisible power in the sky that no man could challenge, thus making people fear something they could not confront or control

the commandments and the bible as a whole are designed to enforce compliance and subservience to a faceless higher authority just as law and politics work

jesus was just as much a puppet voice as a king or president...either way speaking on behalf of the silent puppetmasters above them who make the rules
User avatar #325 to #274 - redblackstar (05/19/2013) [-]
I'm doing ancient history at college, it's actually quite scary to what extent the ancient empires controlled the state religions. Although both Persians and Romans were quite tolerant of their subject's religions they encouraged emperor worship and certain moral values through it. Religion was and is a simple form of propaganda, deal with it.
User avatar #327 to #325 - konradkurze (05/19/2013) [-]
yes and propaganda is a tool of the state to influence and control people
User avatar #287 to #274 - foelkera ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
Didn't the first mainstream religions start within the slave classes of gigantic empires though?
User avatar #289 to #287 - konradkurze (05/18/2013) [-]
well thats just it, religion was designed to keep slaves compliant with their slavery, with an ideal of "life i **** but if you obey, you'll be rewarded in the afterlife" a fictional paradise for the dead to make up for hell on earth

just when the slaves became free and got better lives, they were so programmed into the religions, they took them with them and kept practising them with less need to

in the case of the jews, when they got freedom from egypt, they took the religion, and rewrote it into christianity to make themselves the masters and all faithful the slaves
pretty much making them as bad as their former masters
User avatar #293 to #289 - foelkera ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
The monarchy in Egypt hated Judaism though.
#314 to #293 - anon (05/18/2013) [-]
Everyone everywhere hated judaism.
User avatar #311 to #293 - redblackstar (05/18/2013) [-]
Because they had their own state religion and Judaism was different, kinda like Windows and Linux
User avatar #309 to #293 - konradkurze (05/18/2013) [-]
exactly, since the egyptians treated the jews so bad, when the jews got their chance they became the fascist overlords
#310 to #309 - foelkera ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
Jews didn't come into power until 1948 tho
Jews didn't come into power until 1948 tho
User avatar #319 to #310 - konradkurze (05/19/2013) [-]
no theyve always been in power, just they never came out into the open till 1948

how else did england just up and take 60% of palestine away from the palestinians and mark it as 'jews only' without any objections from the rest of the world
User avatar #323 to #319 - foelkera ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
Say you buy a house. You then are kidnapped and forced to work in north africa for several years. One day you escape from captivity and spend a long trek heading home. You arrive on your doorstep and find the locks have been changed, and that muslims are in your house. You try to kick them out, but they only reluctantly agree to share it with you.

Then they try to murder you because they don't want you in the house.
User avatar #339 to #323 - konradkurze (05/19/2013) [-]
hmmmm compelling.....
makes me think of how the judeo-christians handled america

say you and your family own a big house, then someone from the next town over comes over, you open the door for him and welcome him in, he punches you in the face then while you reel back in surprise, he kills your family in front of you, you run and lock yourself in the attic, as you wait, the man sets up his family inside your home, after a time of starvation from lack of food and diseases from lack of hygiene, you finally come out of the attic, only for the man to punch you a few more times, as you beg for leniency, he says you can live in the closet as your specially reserved space

yep, the judeo christians sure were different to native americans than the egyptians were to jews

not all jews were slaves in egypt, they just like to falsify things to bring world pity on them, like the holocaust deaths were faked
User avatar #341 to #339 - foelkera ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
Dammit I'm trying to have a serious debate here but I read judeo christians as judo christians and then imagined people coming to america and using judo on the natives
#246 - WizardOfTheLawl (05/18/2013) [-]
I never get to use this
User avatar #151 - ivoryhammer (05/18/2013) [-]
Islam actually is a religion of peace, it's just the extremists. Have you ever met a Muslim person? ******* nice people.
User avatar #162 to #151 - tormain (05/18/2013) [-]
well then I expect him to return my wallet the next time we meet
User avatar #297 to #151 - napalmpie (05/18/2013) [-]
I don't know any religion who claims "UARG WE WANT WAR WE GONNA KILL YOU"
Basically, every religion is a religion of peace.
User avatar #94 - rarityrarityrarity (05/18/2013) [-]
OHMYGOD is this another athiesm post?
1. These posts aren't funny.
2. There are no christians on this site to piss off.
3. I'm a very butthurt athiest tired of your **** .
4. **** you
5. ????
6. Die of cancer.
#97 to #94 - AnonymousDonor (05/18/2013) [-]
i am a christian on this site

and while these posts dont butthurt me, there might be a chance that i can butthurt you

have a nice day
User avatar #98 to #97 - rarityrarityrarity (05/18/2013) [-]
The only thing is Christians don't spam their views on religion. Only these autistic 12 year old 'athiests' who are trying to prove something.
#101 to #98 - AnonymousDonor (05/18/2013) [-]
aye
well, good christians dont spam it at any rate

weve all seen plenty of assholes on both sides
#108 to #98 - anon (05/18/2013) [-]
"Christians don't spam their views on religion."
>Christians
>don't
>spam
>views

***** you gotta be joking. I've had a guy physically attack me because I made a comment about the pope, after he spent nearly a year harassing me to convert.
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#270 to #118 - anon (05/18/2013) [-]
It was a negative comment.
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User avatar #45 - icameheretotroll (05/18/2013) [-]
Damn that guy can live so long
User avatar #140 to #45 - horribleperson (05/18/2013) [-]
Obviously, they were right to call him a witch
User avatar #47 to #45 - alalalalal (05/18/2013) [-]
Why do you think the church was trying to kill him?
User avatar #50 to #47 - icameheretotroll (05/18/2013) [-]
Church was trying to kill everything back then

they burned cats thinking they were demons in disguise
they burned gingers thinking they were vampires
they burned left handed people thinking they were unnatural
#83 to #50 - lyphowut (05/18/2013) [-]
(Pretty sure he was making a joke about him being a witch for living so long)
User avatar #85 to #83 - icameheretotroll (05/18/2013) [-]
(I also made a joke about them being paranoid)
#86 to #85 - lyphowut (05/18/2013) [-]
(I also thumbed up your joke, because it was funny. good day sir)
User avatar #87 to #86 - icameheretotroll (05/18/2013) [-]
I lol'd at your joke too
User avatar #88 to #87 - icameheretotroll (05/18/2013) [-]
GOD DAMNIT THESE SMILEYS
#32 - kiwirulestwo ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
User avatar #248 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
Christians kind of evolved and recognized that, in the past, they were kind of dicks. Don't get me wrong, a lot of them still are. Islam is seriously the most barbaric **** I've ever seen, though. I do not give a **** about political correctness, when I see something that is wrong, I let people know it's wrong. We should not be accepting of people of every religion, as not to offend. **** them, they have to adapt to our culture, we should not be molded by minorities. By the way, people that say gays need to adapt to our culture, need to adapt to our culture, our culture as in most of America, because the majority of people I've spoken to on the issue support gay marriage, gays have adapted. Also, why shouldn't we adapt to gays, but we should accept a religion of woman-killers and suicide bombers into our society? Sorry for spouting off, I had to get that off my chest.
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User avatar #252 to #248 - drooms ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
Kind of...
KIND OF?!
User avatar #254 to #252 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
"Christians kind of evolved and recognized that, in the past, they were kind of dicks." Learn to read.
User avatar #255 to #254 - drooms ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
They weren't kind of dicks.
They were dicks!
User avatar #256 to #255 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
I know, but kind of is a more subtle way of saying, "Hey, these guys were totally complete assholes!"
User avatar #260 to #256 - drooms ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
Theres no "subtle" way to go about it.
User avatar #261 to #260 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
There is, if you say "kind of".
#337 to #261 - giustobuffo (05/19/2013) [-]
This is the BEST way to end an argument.
This is the BEST way to end an argument.
User avatar #338 to #337 - majortomcomics (05/19/2013) [-]
Thankee.
User avatar #278 to #248 - konradkurze (05/18/2013) [-]
judaism is the most barbaric

yes islam and muslim have their problems, but in their past, when they conquered others, they merged them into the one people
with judaism, when they conquer, they take a steaming piss on the conquered
User avatar #282 to #278 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
Islam is the same as Muslim, just for your information. As for the rest, I agree that Judaism was brutal, maybe even more so than Christianity, but now, in the 21st century, the Muslims' expressions of savagery is disgusting.
#286 to #282 - konradkurze (05/18/2013) [-]
well its hard to make a fair judgement since israel wont let media into palestine to get full information
User avatar #290 to #286 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
True, I would not say them obliterating Muslims isn't justified. They push on into their country, and try to take the Gaza strip, they deserve to get their **** wrecked like they do, in my opinion...
User avatar #301 to #290 - konradkurze (05/18/2013) [-]
you WANT them to obliterate all muslims?
nice to hear youre on the side of the fascists
User avatar #305 to #301 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
I actually don't, I want them to kill the ones that invade them, using the Koran to justify sending missiles toward Israel killing innocent people. They do not go out of their way to kill muslims, they are on the defensive, they kill the ones that attack and attempt to overtake their land because an outdated book tells them to.
User avatar #322 to #305 - konradkurze (05/19/2013) [-]
well it all comes down to zionism

the average israeli is peaceful, its the zionists who follow the same policy of the Nazis, believing in their right to conquer all, are the problem
#281 to #248 - bigrog (05/18/2013) [-]
so hate all muslims for that reason only.
User avatar #217 - randomserb (05/18/2013) [-]
Perversions of religion happen because of personal agendas and mindless individuals that follow them. The crusades, split churches and witchhunting all apply.
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#3 - oedad (05/18/2013) [-]
The whole concept of life is incompatible with peace. Every species is competing against their own and other species to survive and pass on their genes resulting in a universal struggle that is infinite and brutal.
User avatar #17 to #3 - nooc (05/18/2013) [-]
Peace within a species is something worth working for, if you want to continue existing that is.
#35 to #3 - anon (05/18/2013) [-]
that why I put "peace" due the afact everone og the won idea of it mine is wereno relgoin has any control but pwople can still worship it while other I thre relgoin to tbe breach and followed by everone
User avatar #18 to #3 - toughactintinactin (05/18/2013) [-]
Peace is the brief moment where everyone is reloading.
#60 - anon (05/18/2013) [-]
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
#70 to #60 - luiselvergas (05/18/2013) [-]
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading."
- Thomas Jefferson
PIC semi related
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#226 - onefuckingskurut (05/18/2013) [-]
ITT: Accepting our lord into our house.
User avatar #320 to #226 - taintedangel (05/19/2013) [-]
Here's a translation for people who don't want to have their ideals associated with the "I'm 13 and I'm trying to be cool!" people.
It's about self-empowerment, not worshiping Satan. Satan doesn't exist and is just an image, nothing more. It's also against sacrifices, especially of children and animals. But IMO, it's the nietzschean philosophy made into a religion.
The Nine Statements:
- Don't be abstinent and deny yourself things.
- Worry about the physical self and forget about the 'after life', it doesn't matter.
- Don't be a hypocrite.
- Be nice and kind to people who deserve your kindness, and **** the douchebags who are undeserving of it.
- If someone ***** with you, **** with him so that he won't **** with you ever again.
- Be responsible for your actions and don't blame others for them.
- Man is an animal, and only better because he is more vicious.
- The concept of 'religious sin' is ******** , and it denies you emotional, physical and mental satisfaction.
- The idea of 'Satan' as a real being kept the church in business for years.

The 11 Rules:
- Shut up about your opinions and advice unless someone asks you about them.
- Shut up about your problems unless you are sure someone wants to listen to them.
- Show respect when in someone else's home, otherwise GTFO.
- If a guest in your home shows you disrespect, disrespect him/her worse than they do to you.
- No forcing yourself on another sexually.
- Don't steal unless the person doesn't want the item in question.
- Admit you were lucky when you get rich, or else you will lose it all.
- Don't complain about things that don't concern you.
- Don't hurt children.
- Only kill non-human animals in self-defense or for food.
- Don't bother people. If someone bothers you and you politely ask him to stop and he doesn't, kick his ass.
User avatar #335 to #320 - taintedangel (05/19/2013) [-]
The nine sins of satanism
- Stupidity
- Pretentiousness
- Solipsism
- Lying to Yourself
- Herd Conformity
- Lack of Perspective
- Forgetfulness of past Orthodoxies
- Counterproductive Pride
- Lack of Aesthetics

Basically, if people want to educate others on satanism, they should cut out all of the 'satanic' and 'gothic' wordplay and just present it in regular english.
#234 to #226 - ravenger (05/18/2013) [-]
I remember when i was 13 too.
#239 to #226 - teoberry (05/18/2013) [-]
how's middle school?
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