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User avatar #582 to #569 - csmithyo (04/22/2013) [-]
in Canada we drink bagged milk
User avatar #586 to #582 - redclover (04/22/2013) [-]
inb4 "BAGGED MILK!?!?!?"

we've been over this FJ. Canadians are weird.
#588 to #586 - csmithyo (04/22/2013) [-]
not weird,  just different :(
not weird, just different :(
User avatar #590 to #588 - redclover (04/22/2013) [-]
Just look at your squirt guns!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhV3B-fMOBY
User avatar #613 to #590 - disregardtheponies (04/22/2013) [-]
******* Ed made that show.
User avatar #592 to #590 - csmithyo (04/22/2013) [-]
i have no response to that
User avatar #368 - maskedhippo (04/21/2013) [-]
This is just ridiculous. Speaking as someone who lives in eastern MA, the lockdown was to keep everyone safe. You guys talking about how they're oppressing people, and the man is trying to held us down, there was a very real possibility of getting killed by a deranged terrorist if you ventured outside. Furthermore, even if this was some kind of fascist scheme, to what end? Keep people in one region of one state inside their homes for a whole day? That's a pretty weak plan. But that's irrelevant, because they were doing it FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
User avatar #370 to #368 - eyesodadeep (04/21/2013) [-]
actually, it was to keep people off the streets so the only person on the streets would be the suspect.
User avatar #371 to #370 - maskedhippo (04/21/2013) [-]
yeah, that too. Having everyone inside made the search easier.
User avatar #372 to #371 - eyesodadeep (04/21/2013) [-]
youre a good person
User avatar #387 to #368 - exclamation (04/21/2013) [-]
Yer right. They weren't declaring Marshall law or the like; they were protecting the citizens in an appropriate manner.
#452 - vegetatheprince (04/21/2013) [-]
There will always be those who say "our gov't is the best ever!" and then those who say "our gov't is the worse ever!"

Both are wrong. (unless u in North Korea or some **** , I'm talking 1st world countries)

If you're here to say that, you pretty well off having a computer and internet. Generally speaking, Every gov't does the job is has to. Sure they make some ****** laws or whatever, but rarely anything extreme. I think people just like arguing.
User avatar #243 - tomtomvdp ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
That looks like the angriest milkman ever.
User avatar #377 - happygrowman (04/21/2013) [-]
and he drank in front of them and watched the thirsty children cry....
#394 to #377 - Reldinrostiare (04/21/2013) [-]
Granted the post agitated me...but this I found funny...
User avatar #191 - jokeface (04/21/2013) [-]
>Didn't read text first
>Saw picture
>Thought he was gonna smash the milk on the ground since that's the fad apparently

I've been on the internet too long.
#198 to #191 - schneidend (04/21/2013) [-]
Oh my god that **** makes me want to headbutt babies.
User avatar #599 - juicyjuice (04/22/2013) [-]
>Shows up at house
>Hey I brought you milk!
>2%? Who do you think you are!
>this **** is so thick I choke on it
>Are you trying to kill my family?
User avatar #611 to #599 - mikemont (04/22/2013) [-]
...not 2% milk
User avatar #606 to #599 - Lainge ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
You're using that wrong and on the wrong website.
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#255 to #254 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
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>mfw I tried to put sense into these stupid "centrists" on FJ and they thumbed me into oblivion

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#262 to #257 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
Thumbing while discussing politics is only going to marginalize the unpopular or politically incorrect side. That's what makes Reddit and even our political board here, backwards.

#330 to #262 - swagbot ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
Top 10 in the most succinct and insightful analysis I've ever seen on FJ, sir!

(I thumbed you back up to 0)
User avatar #256 to #254 - durkadurka (04/21/2013) [-]
Yeah we do tend to overreact when it comes to terrorists. It seems we're willing to give up our freedoms when our security is involved.

This event in particular wasn't that unreasonable because we've done worse to ourselves in the name of security.

It's a tough line to balance.
User avatar #275 to #256 - midgetnigger (04/21/2013) [-]
I'm curious. Why do you consider what they did an overreaction?
User avatar #466 to #275 - durkadurka (04/21/2013) [-]
I was speaking more towards our general reaction. This instance wasn't really an overreaction. I think the amount of equipment/manpower might have been overkill, but usually overreaction tends to present itself in mentality. We're very good at getting ourselves worked up.
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User avatar #265 to #261 - Deeticky (04/21/2013) [-]
Benjamin Franklin was never president. He was what we call a "Founding Father".

Just FYI.
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User avatar #270 to #265 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
Old Ben was too deviant to become president as his favorite weekend activity was going to whorehouses. He ejaculated inside one of his hoes, apparently making babby.

User avatar #278 to #270 - Deeticky (04/21/2013) [-]
He also liked himself some old ladies.

"Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part: The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement."

-Ben Franklin, in a letter giving advice about loving older women.
User avatar #461 to #261 - durkadurka (04/21/2013) [-]
You're exactly right with that sentiment. While this wasn't any sort of real loss of freedom, it does show what we will do/give to keep ourselves safe. It's human nature.

We walk a thin line when we try to provide security and maintain freedom. It's very easy to mess it up. I'd like to think we've done a decent job thus far.
User avatar #293 to #261 - lequigley (04/21/2013) [-]
also, concerning the pursuit of violent criminals, who while the police were chasing them were throwing homemade bombs out of their car and shooting back, it might be safer just to stay in doors. its not about giving up a little freedom its about not getting shot
User avatar #269 to #261 - Greevon (04/21/2013) [-]
Benjamin Franklin was never a President, but he was a founding father of the nation. And unfortunately there has been a large disconnect between our ideals and our actual politics since the inception of our country. But what nation does operate entirely upon it's ideals? That's just not possible with differing opinions and outside forces.
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User avatar #296 to #283 - Greevon (04/21/2013) [-]
I'd say it's specific media outlets that try to make America look perfect. And we have had Presidents in the past who themselves have said " **** if I know" when it came to national issues. Namely, President Carter. And then the nation freaked the **** out. "If the President doesn't know what to do, what the hell is going to happen to us!?" Which prompted President Reagen to start the loooong tradition of denying that there are any problems in America at all.
#215 - SuperSixONE (04/21/2013) [-]
What he did to the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev:
What he did to the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev:
#272 to #215 - ThatFuckingGuy (04/21/2013) [-]
** ************** rolled a random image posted in comment #350130 at Pokemon **
#33 - cedomir (04/21/2013) [-]
What ever happened to predictability,
the milk man,
the paper boy,
evening TV,
#322 - iluvharrypotter ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
MILK'S HERE MOTHER ******
#298 - cptsweatpants (04/21/2013) [-]
we're gonna put this whole town under lockdown and won't hesitate to shoot you if you come out, but that's okay cause we brought some kids milk!
we're gonna put this whole town under lockdown and won't hesitate to shoot you if you come out, but that's okay cause we brought some kids milk!
User avatar #633 - billybobjoeii (04/22/2013) [-]
vaulttec... why would you do this? :'(
User avatar #636 to #633 - vaulttec (04/22/2013) [-]
cos
User avatar #637 to #636 - billybobjoeii (04/22/2013) [-]
Atleast provide an angle or theta when talking about trig functions :'(
User avatar #639 to #637 - vaulttec (04/22/2013) [-]
tan
User avatar #641 to #640 - vaulttec (04/22/2013) [-]
sin
User avatar #292 - daboomee (04/21/2013) [-]
I love how you guys are defending the police even though the CISPA bill is right around the corner.
#302 to #292 - funnyjunkiefive (04/21/2013) [-]
Yep, they distract us with this stuff to push bills through
Yep, they distract us with this stuff to push bills through
#308 to #292 - rockyshand (04/21/2013) [-]
It still has to pass the Senate, which is doubtful, and even then Obama will most likely Veto it. Worst comes to worse we as a people come together and get this case sent to the Supreme Court. You're overreacting.
#299 to #292 - creepyunclebob (04/21/2013) [-]
Yeah, because the cops will be in charge of arresting your internet.
#319 to #292 - mrmamric (04/21/2013) [-]
CISPA isn't part of the polic eforce, dumbass. That's like saying we should be mad at Antarctica because of 9/11.
User avatar #364 to #319 - maskedhippo (04/21/2013) [-]
******* penguins, man. they're all in on it.
User avatar #206 - loszombis (04/21/2013) [-]
lockdown? why were they in lockdown?
#210 to #206 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
BECAUSE OMG THERE IS ONE DYING PERSON ON THE LOOSE HE MIGHT STEP ON ANT
User avatar #212 to #210 - schneidend (04/21/2013) [-]
While they were fleeing they killed a security guard at MIT and got into firefights with the police. They were well-armed and had homemade explosives. Are you trolling, or just an idiot?
User avatar #220 to #212 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
Yes, so that warranted an entire city shut down.

3 DEAD PEOPLE = 600,000 PEOPLE ON LOCKDOWN

That's nice. I might try being a terrorist one day to cause such havoc.
User avatar #227 to #220 - schneidend (04/21/2013) [-]
> "might try being a terrorist"

Ah, gotcha. troll, then.

0/10
User avatar #232 to #227 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
What did the Boston lockdown do except make terrorism a virtue for all the rejects? 2 guys make some very simply bombs and detonate them at an event, only killing 2 people and wounding 100, but seriously wounding less than 10, and they became gods.
User avatar #285 to #232 - Greevon (04/21/2013) [-]
"they become gods"
Try "they become wanted men who are despised by everyone the world over." You know, everyone except sociopaths who want to kill random innocents.
#225 to #206 - baconmansenior (04/21/2013) [-]
... you dont american news much do you
User avatar #229 to #225 - loszombis (04/21/2013) [-]
what?
User avatar #236 to #229 - brenton (04/21/2013) [-]
He meant to say:

You don't America much, do you?
#242 to #236 - schneidend (04/21/2013) [-]
The Surgeon General recommends that you America your America at least once a day. Freedom.
The Surgeon General recommends that you America your America at least once a day. Freedom.
User avatar #251 to #206 - breadstickez (04/21/2013) [-]
You probably have googled it by now due to all the hate below, but just in case you didn't:

-Two men from Russia bombed the Boston Marathon in the US
-Once their identities were discovered they were believed to still be in the town, which caused a massive police search.
-After realizing their identities were public the two men robbed a store, killed an MIT police officer, and got into a shoot-out with US police involving explosives.
-During that shootout the older suspect was killed by police fire and the other suspect (his brother) ran over him to escape.
-The younger suspect escaped and was loose in the town of Watertown, causing the entire town to be put on complete lockdown to prevent anyone from leaving their homes and make it easier and safer to search for the second suspect.
-After a day in full lockdown the suspect was located in a person's boat in their yard, and arrested/taken to the hospital in critical condition.

Don't listen to the others, not everyone stays up to date on foreign news. Hope I helped :)
User avatar #666 to #251 - loszombis (04/24/2013) [-]
Thanks for letting me know.. i knew about the boston bombing but i didnt know the rest. just after posting that i left for another few days..
User avatar #553 to #251 - defender (04/22/2013) [-]
chechnya not russia
User avatar #561 to #553 - breadstickez (04/22/2013) [-]
Chechnya is under Russia's rule, so many consider them Russian. Either works I suppose.
User avatar #290 to #251 - brenton (04/21/2013) [-]
-Officials have confirmed that they were not involved in the convenience store robbery. The younger one just came in to buy something earlier, then someone else coincidentally robbed the same store later.
-Officials have also confirmed that he escaped on foot after the shootout, did not use the car, and did not run over his brother.
User avatar #303 to #290 - breadstickez (04/21/2013) [-]
Close enough to give him an idea. I was just basing it off of recent articles I have read, but there is so much information that its hard to remember which is the new truth haha. Thank you for clearing it up :)
User avatar #286 to #251 - guiguito (04/21/2013) [-]
i stoped at "russia"
i am not russian myself, but wans't the two ****** chechens?
yeah they were chechens i am sure, russians are too busy mating with bears and drinking vodka to do terrorism.
User avatar #295 to #286 - brenton (04/21/2013) [-]
Chechnya is under Russian rule, so it's considered part of Russia.
User avatar #329 to #295 - guiguito (04/21/2013) [-]
so we can call anyone that live on the us arab right?
User avatar #348 to #329 - brenton (04/21/2013) [-]
What? I'm sorry, I think you broke your English.
User avatar #408 to #348 - guiguito (04/21/2013) [-]
So, we can call anyone that live on the U.S.A Arab, right?
User avatar #465 to #408 - brenton (04/21/2013) [-]
That doesn't make any sense. It would be more accurate to say something like "Anyone who lives in Florida lives in the USA."

I didn't say that all Russians are Chechens, just that all Chechens are Russian.
#10 - anon (04/21/2013) [-]
This is nice, I admit, but it doesn't justify what they did. Violating rights to catch one man isn't forgivable through one act of kindness. I'm sure police states around the world have these sort of stories. We just choose to ignore them because the actions of one man won't define the country.
A hair in your soup doesn't ruin the soup, and putting salt on a turd won't make it a meal.
User avatar #47 to #10 - alfjnn (04/21/2013) [-]
>mfw growing up in Yugoslavia
>mfw you think America is ****** .
>mfw no face.

Get a life, op.
User avatar #11 to #10 - pockyrin (04/21/2013) [-]
how did they violate anyones rights by saying they should stay indoors while a guy with a gun was running around.
#13 to #11 - anon (04/21/2013) [-]
That was perfectly reasonable, entering people's homes without the homeowners permission however, is not. Pointing an assault rifle in an innocent persons face and demanding to be let into their house is extremely unjustified.
User avatar #14 to #13 - pockyrin (04/21/2013) [-]
Well if they were entering people's homes while they weren't home, I'd say given the circumstances it was necessary, he might have been hiding out in a house and threaten/kill the family when they came home. However yea the second part no, pointing a gun into a families face is horrible.
#15 to #14 - anon (04/21/2013) [-]
Well I'm glad we reached an agreement on the matter. Good day to you, sir.
User avatar #19 to #11 - dingojohn (04/21/2013) [-]
"When a guy with a gun is running around"

Isn't people with guns pretty widespread in America?
Isn't the defensive line of any gun-owner "We have to be able to protect ourselves", but as soon as some guy with a gun who killed some people is running around, everyone has to hide in their houses?
User avatar #31 to #19 - therealtjthemedic (04/21/2013) [-]
What about a terrorist with explosives?
User avatar #39 to #31 - heraske (04/21/2013) [-]
Well then I suppose at the end of the race of being chased, he's going to blow up.
User avatar #40 to #39 - therealtjthemedic (04/21/2013) [-]
Well then I suppose at the end of the race of being chased, he's going to blow up.
Without the italics it isn't even funny.
With it's like a 3/4 out of ten.
User avatar #41 to #40 - heraske (04/21/2013) [-]
You're a 3/4 out of ten.
User avatar #24 to #10 - alalalalal (04/21/2013) [-]
A hair in my soup ruins it op
#342 - ManicalMayhem (04/21/2013) [-]
Yea because you know it wasn't Gov't that made them unable to get Milk in the first place. That's the typical patter with all government before they go corrupt. They are creating the problem so they can seem like the hero's when they solve the problem that they created in the first place.

I Praise them man for helping the family, but I still despise the situation they were forced in to by the police state.

<<< Soviet Russia rationing bread due to shortage, Heroes to us all </sarcasm>
User avatar #375 to #342 - ManicalMayhem (04/21/2013) [-]
I apologize for my misspells, only noticed them after I posted, but i am aware of them
Pattern*
the man"
User avatar #378 to #342 - Kazseppi (04/21/2013) [-]
I think the point is that the police did something they clearly didn't have to, just to help someone out a bit.
#388 to #378 - ManicalMayhem (04/21/2013) [-]
Of course that man went out of his way, and I do praise that he helped them in the situation, however how logical does it seem to lock down and create a martial law over 2 boys one of them barely a teenager.
User avatar #549 to #388 - defender (04/22/2013) [-]
well maybe because they had improvised explosives already shot two cops and a crap ton of ammo and blew up two bombs earlier in the week so I would think they took the correct route
#529 to #388 - anon (04/22/2013) [-]
> those teenagers killed a security guard at a university
>engaged in a gunfight vs cops
>injured a few cops
>were throwing out explosives out the suv they stole
>kidnapped somebody and took their suv
>one teenager ran at the cops with a bomb strapped to his chest
NOPE I don't see a single reason why there would've been a lockdown. I mean besides the whole teenagers kidnapping people while throwing out explosives out the car window and strapping bombs to themselves.

****** you just went full retard.
User avatar #557 to #529 - ManicalMayhem (04/22/2013) [-]
oh yea cause cops never try and justify overreaction... So have you seen these explosives being chucked out of the SUV? of seen them kill that security officer? I'm not saying they did or didn't I'm just saying no one can know exactly what happened except people who were there, but no one could be there because the city was locked down.
User avatar #404 to #388 - Kazseppi (04/21/2013) [-]
Yeah that is pretty laughable. heheh
User avatar #374 to #342 - ronyx ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
Stop watching so many movies. I mean just hear yourself, you're saying that Obama is going to turn into a corrupt government? then sooner or later we're all gonna be round up on the streets and enslaved by our own government?

Sounds about right, do you also believe in the illuminati?
User avatar #379 to #374 - ManicalMayhem (04/21/2013) [-]
Right... Movies, So tell me how's the EU doing for Europe?
User avatar #386 to #379 - ronyx ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
I would love to tell you all about it, but since Merica is turning into a fascist country I better not speak against Merica you know in case I get killed when I go outside by the police or military. I sure hope government officials don't come and knock down my door for posting this comment!
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User avatar #46 to #5 - alfjnn (04/21/2013) [-]
Guy.
I lived in one of those bombed countries.
**** man, I lived near Kosovo, I watched American Bombs Fall.

You want to talk about useless violence? Let's talk about Ethnic Clensing. American Foreign Policy saved the Region, man.

And I'm a ******* Serb.

Personally I'm thankful that some country actually gives a **** . America did more for this world than any other nation out there, in terms of foreign aid, acceptance of refugees, and bailouts.
User avatar #54 to #46 - multimedia (04/21/2013) [-]
I'm favoriting your post because I liked to remember that 'Murica does help sometimes.
User avatar #55 to #54 - alfjnn (04/21/2013) [-]
Why thank you :D

#73 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
So the $500,000,000 that was spent to put Boston under a form of martial law didn't have much efficiency, I see? The officer is obviously a nice person to give the family milk, but putting Boston on "lockdown;" the Feds showing their maximum force, as if there were a rebellion, for one guy, is a bit excessive.

I'd be concerned if what happened in the ultra-libturd city of Boston becomes conventional amongst Police. But, of course, to the libturds on FJ, they would love having their door broken down over the "probable clause" some Jew lawyer said would apply to a minor situation, via the 4th amendment.
#121 to #73 - anon (04/21/2013) [-]
ITT: byposted being a complete ******* retard whack-job YET AGAIN
#146 to #73 - fukkentyranitar ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
This "one guy" was responsible for the deaths and severe mutilation of well over 150 people. How was the lockdown in anyway excessive? The situation seemed very well handled. You are the only person I know of who is unsatisfied.
#93 to #73 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
The greatest threat to our freedoms as Americans and human beings is loyalty to political ideals and parties. You allow those that share your views to commit various sins and yet do not judge them under the same perimeters. Good job ranting on the internet, not going to change opinions just lower yourself on a public stage.
#114 to #93 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
Says the person who probably thumbed me down, but is certainly part of that mindhive,  for voicing a concern which many people share.
Says the person who probably thumbed me down, but is certainly part of that mindhive, for voicing a concern which many people share.
#119 to #114 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
I'm part of the hivemind yet you respond with cookie-cutter conservative 			********		 you pulled from the internet. Good job.
I'm part of the hivemind yet you respond with cookie-cutter conservative ******** you pulled from the internet. Good job.
User avatar #297 to #73 - elcreepo (04/21/2013) [-]
Um... I live in Boston. I was put on lockdown.

The police came to my door and knocked first, we let them in and they did a sweep that took less than half an hour. They were actually pretty nice, and all of my neighbors were fine with it too. It wasn't excessive force they used, and we definitely wanted to be safe.

Plus they made my little brother's day by giving him a high five (he wants to be a cop).

If you weren't there, you wouldn't know.
User avatar #307 to #301 - elcreepo (04/21/2013) [-]
No proof of that, it's just one anti-government guy hearing a rumor.

You believe everything you see on the internet? It says gullible on your shoe.
User avatar #88 to #73 - shazmothree (04/21/2013) [-]
I'm sorry were you in Boston during the past week? No, then shut the **** up
#90 to #88 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
lel, I could only imagine how scared you libturds were; scared enough to let the Police trample over any American virtue.

#123 to #90 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Actually I wasn't scared. Wasn't there to be scared. However if I was, I still have my M3. She's a beauty and will never be considered an "assault weapon" but the unenlightened.
User avatar #98 to #90 - thedutchs (04/21/2013) [-]
libturd, jew lawyer, 'MERICAN VIRTUES.

You've got to find a way to make nuances if you have any dreams of actually convincing people...
#91 to #73 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Yes the evil liberals obviously support a police state. Tell me what's your proof? Better yet what gives you the right to belittle your countrymen for having a different opinion? A right given to them by constitution I add. Better yet how was this martial law? They were request to stay inside but folks were still out. It was entirely possible to go about business as usual if you chose to do so. And before you lash back accusing me of being a "liberal" I'm a centralist. Conservatives are dangerous to America as are Liberals. You are disgusting.
#108 to #91 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
Oh, you're a centrist! A typical fat American who has no ideology but is swayed by which candidate gives them an erection. Nice to know! I'm sure your biggest issues are gay marriage and the Dream Act.

How was what happened in Boston, Martial Law? How does it reflect a failure to represent what our country is?

The Police brought in teams of soldiers along with armored vehicles, tanks, and helicopters. They went door to door in a pretty sizable radius without warrants; going so far as to knock down doors if nobody answered. This was a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and the 4th amendment, mind you. The terrorists won in terrorizing us. They made us disregard the fact that we aren't a militaristic society and made the whole US scared. Cities like Los Angeles and New York has huge police presences. What did this result in? Nothing. A civilian found the perp and all those rights that were violated amounted to nothing.

Identical bombings which happened during the Red Scare, nearly 100 years ago, did not result in the shutdown of entire cities. Public Transport and Taxi service was dead since the bombing. During those bombings, which targeted government building, it was common for 2,3,4 people to die in them. We did not declare martial law, then.

And what about the bombers? Just look at how Graham started the banwagon which went on the premise that suspect 2 should be treated as a war-criminal.
#118 to #108 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
My biggest issue is reregulating the financial sector. This can be accomplished by working with criminals (White collar criminals) and using their expertise to right air tight laws.    
   
As for Boston, since you were not there can you confirm they did not request to enter the properties? If the home owners consented they are in the right. Where's the massive violation of rights you speak of? Citizens of Boston of went on with their lives, though many stayed in. There's whole pages dedicated to the pictures they took of an abandoned city, how they found it haunting and unnatural.   
   
If you want my opinion on gay marriage and the dream act well: My family came over here in 1863 (drafted into the union army for citizenship), and in 1901. Both went through the proper channels and became citizens. Members of my family are gay and I wish the best for them, but as a heterosexual man I have no opinion on the matter as it does not effect me. I do believe that it's not the government's place to deny them to live and marry how they choose.   
   
Again you're ranting and making accusations. Just making an ass of yourself. Conservatives are so prideful it's disgusting. The same pride forced Lucifer from heaven. Liberals are convinced socialism is the answer, but the soviets only advanced scientifically/culturally because they had a rival (USA). Without that they would stagnate and humanity would not advance. Both are dangerous and will kill this country.   
   
As for you well, you wrongly believe you are more intelligent than the &quot;sheep&quot;. Because of this you see yourself as worthwhile and better. In truth you are ignorant, and a slave to the ideologies of others.
My biggest issue is reregulating the financial sector. This can be accomplished by working with criminals (White collar criminals) and using their expertise to right air tight laws.

As for Boston, since you were not there can you confirm they did not request to enter the properties? If the home owners consented they are in the right. Where's the massive violation of rights you speak of? Citizens of Boston of went on with their lives, though many stayed in. There's whole pages dedicated to the pictures they took of an abandoned city, how they found it haunting and unnatural.

If you want my opinion on gay marriage and the dream act well: My family came over here in 1863 (drafted into the union army for citizenship), and in 1901. Both went through the proper channels and became citizens. Members of my family are gay and I wish the best for them, but as a heterosexual man I have no opinion on the matter as it does not effect me. I do believe that it's not the government's place to deny them to live and marry how they choose.

Again you're ranting and making accusations. Just making an ass of yourself. Conservatives are so prideful it's disgusting. The same pride forced Lucifer from heaven. Liberals are convinced socialism is the answer, but the soviets only advanced scientifically/culturally because they had a rival (USA). Without that they would stagnate and humanity would not advance. Both are dangerous and will kill this country.

As for you well, you wrongly believe you are more intelligent than the "sheep". Because of this you see yourself as worthwhile and better. In truth you are ignorant, and a slave to the ideologies of others.
#126 to #118 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
As for Boston, since you were not there can you confirm they did not request to enter the properties? If the home owners consented they are in the right. Where's the massive violation of rights you speak of? Citizens of Boston of went on with their lives, though many stayed in. There's whole pages dedicated to the pictures they took of an abandoned city, how they found it haunting and unnatural.
They used, as I said in the OP, the "reasonable suspicion" clause to do the searches without warrants. The homeowners had no say in the Cambridge, Watertown, and New Bedford neighborhoods. Yes, they, "went along with their lives," but what I am saying is that WHAT HAPPENED SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.

As for you well, you wrongly believe you are more intelligent than the "sheep". Because of this you see yourself as worthwhile and better. In truth you are ignorant, and a slave to the ideologies of others.
Says the person who is okay with the Feds kicking down your door and shooting your dog if he comes running to greet them. How can such an enlightened centrist be in favor of what happened in Boston?

To tickle your fancy, the greatest supporters of this lockdown were so-called "Conservatives" like McCain and Graham along with liberals who have no means of protecting themselves since they hate guns.
User avatar #132 to #126 - pandation (04/21/2013) [-]
Lol retards who call others "sheep". Not thinking critically and accepting everything you hear immediately without thinking things through is a sheep. Coming up with absolutely retarded ideas and perceptions just because it's "different" doesn't make you seem intelligent, it makes you look like you drank a gallon of bleach after being dropped on your head
User avatar #135 to #132 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
May you answer something: who are you? When did I ever call anybody a sheep? I agree with what the person I'm arguing with is saying, that mainstream Conservatives and Liberals are not good for America, and themselves. I am a Conservative and see how our political livelihood is limited and am scared at how FJ, although it is probably anons using proxies, are so eager to accept a Police state.
User avatar #143 to #135 - pandation (04/21/2013) [-]
Who am I? Kid, let me remind you where exactly you are spilling your mouthful of ******** . It's a public comment section where literally anyone can find and comment. What kind of a ******* question is that?
When did I ever call anybody a sheep?
"As for you well, you wrongly believe you are more intelligent than the "sheep". Because of this you see yourself as worthwhile and better. In truth you are ignorant, and a slave to the ideologies of others." posted literally 13 minutes ago.
Police State? Bitch please, you know nothing if you are honestly afraid of the possibility of America becoming a police state existing. Just the fact that you're using the Boston search as support proves how you can't analyze the crux of a situation and instead twist it to fit your own retarded agenda. Go work for FOX
User avatar #149 to #143 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
"As for you well, you wrongly believe you are more intelligent than the "sheep". Because of this you see yourself as worthwhile and better. In truth you are ignorant, and a slave to the ideologies of others." posted literally 13 minutes ago.
I didn't post that, you dumb ****** .
#167 to #149 - pandation (04/21/2013) [-]
You stupid **** . Comment 126 dumb ass
User avatar #180 to #167 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
The bolded text is me quoting my companion. Look at comment 118
User avatar #193 to #180 - pandation (04/21/2013) [-]
Ah I see. I apologize for the sheep mix up. I still think you're retarded for everything else you're saying
#151 to #149 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Says the white ****** ^.^
#140 to #135 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Look dude there's only one way this end: I won't back down, you'll basically go Cartmen and say "Screw you guys I'm going home" in some form and bounce out. Can we fast forward and be done with it?
#131 to #126 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
What precedent? Lock down and search? Buddy I live in South Jersey. Three years back a bank was robbed in Cherry Hill, and a cop was shot. People held up in their homes and the police did searches this is nothing new.

What doors were kicked down? If they homeowners give permission to search the police may search if they so no they need a warrant. This is a very basic rule of our law. Again I demand proof they were denied this right. Your word means NOTHING!

Actual liberals are very few and far between. There were not hordes of scared folks huddled together with their doors bolted. Even the armed should stay in doors as a large amount of armed and panicked individuals is dangerous to themselves and others.

I believe it was all handled well, the citizens of Boston would be the first to complain if they felt they were mistreated or their rights were violated. You have NO RIGHT to speak on their behalf, or on the behalf of anyone.
User avatar #133 to #131 - pandation (04/21/2013) [-]
^ this is logic. Learn from it
#134 to #133 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
You I like.
User avatar #154 to #131 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
What precedent? Lock down and search? Buddy I live in South Jersey. Three years back a bank was robbed in Cherry Hill, and a cop was shot. People held up in their homes and the police did searches this is nothing new.
Bringing in the military which is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, which is an irrelevancy, anyway. What happened in your town was not anything like what happened in Boston, WHERE THE ******* MILITARY CAME IN! How could you compare these two instances?

What doors were kicked down? If they homeowners give permission to search the police may search if they so no they need a warrant. This is a very basic rule of our law. Again I demand proof they were denied this right. Your word means NOTHING!
I was showing you the precedent you can't seem to understand because Obongo loves all of his children and would never agree with taking what happened in Boston a step, or five, in intensity, further, if say, 9/11 happened again. If 9/11 happened again there would probably be actual martial law in effect.

Obviously we are at a fault. I think these types of "lockdowns" will become common and that it sets a dangerous precedent; the disenfranchisement of our civil liberties. You have the utmost trust in the government and cannot fathom them ever doing anything wrong, as an enlightened centrist.
User avatar #163 to #154 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Also I can't help but notice you're not popular here, maybe you should find other social circles to share you radical ideals with?
User avatar #165 to #163 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
Not wanting the military to patrol our streets is a radical believe? You're the radical, I'm afraid.
User avatar #169 to #165 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Were they even military? Or did they fall under SWAT/National Guard which would be under the command of the state/city. If they deployed these men it is their choice to do so. Debating the would be in violation of their "state rights".
User avatar #176 to #169 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
It was excessive force. And yes, it would be classified as military via what they deployed.

User avatar #183 to #176 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
SWAT and National guard have access to armour. Including APCs, and tanks. Federal would be easy to trace, would need to find were they originated (Which would have to be close since they were on scene early).
#160 to #154 - dwarfman (04/21/2013) [-]
Pardon where did Barry come in to this? Also the government is often wrong. It is the duty of her citizens to question her actions, her motivations in every issue no matter how small. However when it descends into paranoia you find individuals like yourself, whom only see it as an evil imperialist empire out to take away your liberties.
User avatar #75 to #73 - darthblam ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
The only reason for this that I could think of was that.. they didn't know what this kid could possibly do.. or if perhaps others may be involved. There was just too much unknown, so they expected the worst and went at it with as much force as possible.

Excessive in hindsight, but at the time.. they kind of had their reasons.
#79 to #75 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
The Boston bombing was the prerequisite to make "lockdowns" a normality. What happened in Boston was neither acceptable nor warranted for the situation. It was frighting to see the Feds having military parades and going into dozens of homes without warrants over a distorted crisis.

The Bostonians loved it, of course, but sane people must see the implications of what happened.
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#130 to #99 - byposted (04/21/2013) [-]
>CITIZENS CAN'T HAVE GUNS BECAUSE I AM SCARED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OVERTHROW MY ****** ASS
>LET'S BRING IN HUNDREDS OF MILITARY PERSONAL AND VEHICLES TO FIND ONE GUY, I'M SURE THOSE REDNECKS WILL THINK NOTHING OF IT AND STILL GIVE AWAY THEIR GUNS
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