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#31 - tuckthisphit (04/21/2013) [-]
Oh,the Iron E!
User avatar #359 - lulzdealer (04/22/2013) [-]
When did the Confederacy ever try to execute large amounts of people?

User avatar #369 to #359 - combatarms (04/22/2013) [-]
when they encountered black soldiers and their officers
User avatar #370 to #369 - lulzdealer (04/22/2013) [-]
That =/= genocide
User avatar #372 to #370 - combatarms (04/22/2013) [-]
you didn't ask about genocide, you asked about executions.
User avatar #376 to #372 - lulzdealer (04/22/2013) [-]
"execute large amounts of people". That is genocide, by it's very definition. That's also what this content is about.
#371 to #369 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Shooting at opposing forces invading their lands, the monsters.
User avatar #377 to #359 - pajamashark (04/22/2013) [-]
He said he knew who history's "next bad guy" would be. In that respect, the Confederacy could fit with the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany as "bad guys". At least to the U.S.
#378 to #377 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
It does say "any time a country has tried to kill everyone" as well.
User avatar #301 - jdsalenger (04/22/2013) [-]
WWIII will start when Germany goes evil again.
#242 - nsfwbrowserv (04/22/2013) [-]
guise guise guise

north korea flag has red

pic related: it's flag of north korea
we must stop them now
freedom bay here we come
User avatar #246 to #242 - animedudej (04/22/2013) [-]
we will drop carpets of freedom on their heads!
#219 - jakeharman (04/22/2013) [-]
Why is there a talking pokeball in the last frame?
User avatar #236 to #219 - numbersixtyseven **User deleted account** (04/22/2013) [-]
That talking pokemon represents either Holland or Luxembourgh. And no, not France, since the French stripes are vertical.
User avatar #254 to #219 - teoberry (04/22/2013) [-]
Das Poland. It's intentionally like that.
User avatar #195 - dawgfan (04/21/2013) [-]
Technically the Union started the US Civil War.

The South succeed because the social and economic differences between the South and North were so great. The Union invaded For Sumter and the Civil War officially began.

User avatar #205 to #195 - nerdrugger (04/21/2013) [-]
fort sumter was a union fort and the confederacy attacked it on april 12 1861

and the main social and economic difference between the north and the south was slavary
and the south succeeded because of lincoln's views on slavery
User avatar #220 to #205 - dawgfan (04/22/2013) [-]
Way to show how little you know about US History there champ
User avatar #257 to #220 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
No he's right. Fort Sumter was a Northern Fort, it was attacked by the South.
He was technically right but worded it wrong when he said the South seceded because of Lincoln's views on Slavery. The South believed that Lincoln was going to instantly abolish slavery when in reality he was going to completely leave the issue alone.
The North actually needed the South's cotton and other agricultural products due to its high level of Industrialization and low amounts of land capable of being used to grow food and other products. The South wasn't really even thinking about its economic disadvantages when it seceded and planned to win with the support of Britain by selling them a bunch of cotton for weapons and other supplies.
The South did secede because of social differences. i.e. Slavery. The North had already abolished slavery and was feverishly trying to do so in the south as well. They believed, as did the South, that Lincoln was going to abolish slavery, but he didn't. The Emancipation Proclamation was actually pointless as it abolished slavery in places that it didn't have the jurisdiction to.
Try to argue with me. I read my history book, cover to cover.
#260 to #257 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
After the secession the union had no rights to Fort Sumter, since it was then in Confederate territory.
User avatar #280 to #260 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Maybe now, but back then not so much. Britain still had forts in America until the 1800s.
Plus the fort was filled with union soldiers. The South could have at least given them a chance to leave, but it instead attacked while a supply ship was on its way down the river.
#285 to #280 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
The union soldiers had no rights to be there past the date of secession. And if the US asked Britian to leave it would've been legally compelled to.
User avatar #291 to #285 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
The union soldiers didn't have a CHANCE to leave past the date that the land they were in had seceded. Boats aren't exactly the fastest things in the world you know, especially not back then. And the US did ask Britain to leave. When we started our own country and won the Revolution part of the terms of the Treaty was that Britain would renounce ALL landownership it had in the Americas.
Anyway secession occurred over a long period of time, each state seceded at its own time so saying "the date of secession" is a little bit idiotic.
#295 to #291 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
The date of secession where the fort was located, and yes, South carolina ordered them to abandon the fort, they had knowledge of the secession and had plenty of time to prepare ships in case secession passed.
User avatar #300 to #295 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Ships are still slow. The soldiers didn't actually pose a threat to the South. They could have been given more time, but the South was too trigger-happy and started the war.
No matter what the South is still responsible as they attacked first, the North had no plans or reasons to attack the South as they could have imported food as they had been doing even before secession.
#303 to #300 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Keeping troops in a sovereign nation against its will was considered an act of war at the time, so technically speaking, no the union started the war when it refused to leave SC.
User avatar #304 to #303 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Well you just bring your reasons to the people who revise the history books and see if they take your case.
#305 to #304 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
I've seen history books that state the south started the war and some that say the north did, I guess it comes down to perspective.
User avatar #239 to #220 - dawgfan (04/22/2013) [-]
Just realized I'm a dumbass at spelling
User avatar #307 to #220 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
you joking right?
#310 to #307 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Not sure how you attack a fort you legally own.
User avatar #312 to #310 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
when you are shooting cannons at people i think that is safe to say you are attacking someone
#316 to #312 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Attacking the forces inside that are illegally occupying a structure you own.
User avatar #323 to #316 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
their act of succession itself was illegal
you cant just declared yourself a new country and then attack the troops that were station their to keep you safe
#326 to #323 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
1.Secession was legal at the time, there was no laws against secession until after the civil war.
2.A sovereign nation has every right to forcibly remove a foreign force refusing to leave.
User avatar #334 to #326 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
yahhhhhhhh that isnt trueeeeeeeee

well im pretty sure you're not an idiot with no understanding on how a country works and just tryin to "troll me" otherwise why would you be an anon posting here

#346 to #334 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Show me anywhere in the constitution before 1869 any mention of secession, maybe look into the laws a little bit next time you go off stating something as fact.
#207 to #205 - John Cena (04/21/2013) [-]
After the secession the Union had no claim to anything within confederate territory.
User avatar #249 to #195 - Lulzilla (04/22/2013) [-]
I don't think you understand. An area cannot just go "Oh hey, We're going to be a completely different country now" without any ramifications. The south leaving destroys the norths economy. Plus having an area that is completely different and is known for it's violence is a complete threat. The moment they decided to succeed is the moment Civil war occurred. No shots need to be fired for a war to start.
User avatar #259 to #249 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
The Northern Economy actually exploded during the Civil War. It grew by about 90%.
The Southern Economy was the one that was destroyed.
#252 to #249 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Legally at the time, yes any state could leave if they voted on it.
User avatar #269 to #252 - Lulzilla (04/22/2013) [-]
Yeah it was legal for a state to leave when ever it wanted to but I'm pretty sure the people who created it had NO idea that half the country would become a different country. Regardless if they had the right in order for any country to survive and become anything they needed to stay together which the North understood. The north(Union)'s reason for civil war was to preserve the country. Ending slavery was just an additional thing.
#272 to #269 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
The people who created it seceeded to create their own country, they knew full well it could happen. And the point still stands the south had every right to leave the union, regardless of the ramifications.
User avatar #279 to #272 - Lulzilla (04/22/2013) [-]
It's so much easier to say that when you look at yourself as a regular civilian. Think about if you were high up in the government. Imagine yourself as the president. Half of your country leaves and becomes a different country. HALF of it. Half of England didn't leave. Only a tiny bit. Also they became a different country. The north let the states succeed. When they attacked (Yes the south attacked first) the President had to do something.
#282 to #279 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
The 13 colonies were what 3 times bigger than england? The south went to claim land within their boundaries northern troops refused to leave, taking back land on their jurisdiction was completely justified.
User avatar #287 to #282 - Lulzilla (04/22/2013) [-]
I'm sorry but that's just foolish. If there were 3 times more people in the colonies then in England it wouldn't be called a colony anymore. Hell they'd just call that England. The amount of people in the colonies during the war for Independence were 2 to almost 3 times LESS then in England.
#289 to #287 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
The landmass was 3 times bigger.
User avatar #292 to #289 - Lulzilla (04/22/2013) [-]
That's something COMPLETELY different. Granted I said the land was as important or more important. Also regardless of what I said England invaded and tried to keep us from leaving. How is whatever your trying to tell me going towards not my opinion because it sounds like your backing MY opinion up.
#298 to #292 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
My point was it wasn't a tiny bit of england that left as you stated.
User avatar #281 to #279 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
It wasn't really half. Most of the population was in the North at the time and a huge percentage of the southern population was slaves, who couldn't even fight until they were forced to towards the end of the war.
User avatar #283 to #281 - Lulzilla (04/22/2013) [-]
I'm not talking about population wise. Even to this day most of the population is in the North. I'm talking about land wise which itself is equally or more important.
User avatar #286 to #283 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Ok then. It was still a bit under half though as not all of the landmass had been claimed yet. Almost all of the agricultural land was in the south however so it was a pretty big hit.
#197 to #195 - mulletmafia (04/21/2013) [-]
kinda related..

i guess
#61 - SuperSixONE (04/21/2013) [-]
Even Iraq and Afghanistan!
#45 - ackrap (04/21/2013) [-]
User avatar #374 - klick (04/22/2013) [-]
Canada is totally the next world terror.
#328 - garymfnoak (04/22/2013) [-]
Not Voltorb!
#315 - ghouleyed (04/22/2013) [-]
**ghouleyed rolled a random image posted in comment #3954797 at My Little Pony fanfiction, backgrounds, songs, lyrics, and GIFs. ** <- Me when WWIII starts
**ghouleyed rolled a random image posted in comment #3954797 at My Little Pony fanfiction, backgrounds, songs, lyrics, and GIFs. ** <- Me when WWIII starts
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User avatar #206 - ilikethisusername ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
who the **** would canada want to hurt? canada is such a nice place D: eh?
User avatar #187 - Loppytaffy (04/21/2013) [-]
It's almost as historically inaccurate as Hetalia. But not nearly as enjoyable.

Also Montenegro, Isle of Man, Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey, Vietnam, Indonesia/Monaco/Singapore (depending on which one that one isn't), Poland, Angola, Burkina Faso, Gibraltar, Haiti, Leichtenstein, Bahrain, Malta, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria, Latvia, Lebanon, Peru, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Myanmar, Samoa, Taiwan, Bermuda, Trinidad and Tobago, Belarus, Nepal, Suriname, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Spain, French Polynesia, Albania, Cambodia, Tonga , Malta, Norway, and the Orkney Islands are all red on at least half their respective flags. Just sayin.

And North Korea. Thought I'd throw that out there.
User avatar #202 to #187 - bahrain (04/21/2013) [-]
he's right you know.
#5 - Suckafied (04/21/2013) [-]
you think canadians play hockey for fun? heh heh heh
#18 to #5 - John Cena (04/21/2013) [-]
*hyuk hyuk hyuk
User avatar #8 to #5 - tenaciousjon (04/21/2013) [-]
You think those fist-fights are just part of the game?

That's combat training, buddy.
#231 - solarisofcelestia (04/22/2013) [-]
I'll just leave this here. Also an important thing to remember is that history is written by the winners of war, not those who are truly correct in the causes they support. War does not decide who is right, war decides who is left.
User avatar #308 to #231 - ghouleyed (04/22/2013) [-]
It would be nice if everything happened like in Bioshock Infinity in the end
#256 to #231 - JHDog (04/22/2013) [-]
this might be stupid, but is that from bioshock?
#296 to #256 - solarisofcelestia (04/22/2013) [-]
Yes it is from Bioshock.
Yes it is from Bioshock.
#342 - fractalius (04/22/2013) [-]
But germany was one of the countries that tried to kill us
#348 to #342 - SemiAnon (04/22/2013) [-]
Pft, as if they'd try the same thing twice.
User avatar #351 to #348 - smokedmeatlog (04/22/2013) [-]
Three time* unless that was the joke, at which point i apologize
User avatar #358 to #355 - smokedmeatlog (04/22/2013) [-]
Then statement retracted.
#349 to #348 - fractalius (04/22/2013) [-]
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User avatar #217 to #213 - threedogification (04/22/2013) [-]
The Confederate.
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User avatar #221 to #218 - threedogification (04/22/2013) [-]
It would be the CSA, just use the abbreviation.
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User avatar #226 to #222 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
Probably the north, more industrialization, better tech.
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User avatar #234 to #229 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
I haven't really read up much on the the civil war lately, but I'm fairly sure the North would of had more foreign backing as well. Not to mention, would not be nearly as susceptible to a revolution as the south, when you oppress people it doesn't lead to a stable country/government.
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User avatar #240 to #237 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
If their economy continued to depend on it long enough, they wouldn't allow them to immigrate, so it just kinda depends on how the South would've continued on. Not to mention strong ideals like that don't die down easily, so there would've been strong support in the South to keep slavery, purely out of personal beliefs if anything.
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User avatar #253 to #248 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
Refer to comment #247

Also, While people may not have owned slaves, many people had racist ideals against African-Americans and had a very low opinion of them. Not everyone though, there were people who lived in the South that risked their lives to help them escape.
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User avatar #273 to #264 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
Probably, but the north was a safer place for blacks to be, at least safer than the south. Not to mention from the north they could go up to Canada. Btw, thumbed all your comments for being polite and mature, a refreshing change from most of funnyjunk.
#258 to #253 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Most people everywhere had racist ideals against blacks at the time.
User avatar #262 to #258 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
The difference is the political standpoints of the North and South, which is in part why we had the Civil War. In my opinion it was a case of who the people in power were and what they believed. Not entirely of course, but at least partially.
#243 to #240 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
Most likely the south would've ditches slaves as soon as mechanized farm equipment became available.
User avatar #247 to #243 - asschwitz (04/22/2013) [-]
One could argue that they would not let the ex-slaves ascend to any stature in the South, that they would've been made to do other things (Maybe maintaining the machines?) and kept as a working class, where they would've been underpaid and mistreated. As I said, strong ideals don't die down easily, especially ones that deal with race.
#250 to #247 - John Cena (04/22/2013) [-]
You'd be surprised how many southerners were sympathetic to blacks, remember after the war both the north and south treated blacks like **** .
User avatar #225 to #222 - threedogification (04/22/2013) [-]
Just what race are you, exactly? Purely research.
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User avatar #230 to #228 - threedogification (04/22/2013) [-]
Ok, because if you were African-American, you would still be a slave. Anyhow, I agree with asschwitz.
#126 - John Cena (04/21/2013) [-]
"Kitten is many fun" ? Implying that we Danes are bad at English? That's horrible. If anyone sucks at American native language, it's the Americans.
User avatar #134 to #126 - ChronoBoost (04/21/2013) [-]
Pretty sure its Poland that said that.
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