GOTTA MOVE THAT GEAR UP!

They used to.

i wish gangsters were still like Al Capone

The difference being that they used machine gunns and not pistols that way.
You won't hit shit if you hold a pistol sideways.

Recoil depends on the way you hold the gun and the way it interacts with your hand. If you hold it normally, it pushes your hand backwards. You hold handle of gun vertically, so it kind of jumps up because you can't hold still. If you move gun to horizontal position, the gun bumps into your hand and back horizontally also. It can't go up, because there's no force pushing it up, just sideways.

This is 100% true, I played a lot of Call of Duty so I'm verified gun expert.

No, there's nothing forcing it UP(not counting weight of whole body of gun....), it just goes BACK. Which means that your hands stopping it forces it to bounce around. So, the way it bounces depends on way you hold it.

I played GTA too. I know all about guns bitch.

If the center of mass is ever so slightly off of the recoil's vector of force, the gun will pivot around it.

That translates to the muzzle rising as the gun does a fraction of a rotation around your shoulder in most firearm designs.

let's assume the chinese mobsters use the type83 smg, a modified chinese version of the PM63.
as you se int he immage, the upper reciever, bolt and all that other crap is situated above the trigger, so when you fire the gun the entire bolt will move backwards and forwards.
since it is situated above the trigger it will push your hand uppwards from that direction.
that is my theory off why the recoil would pull the gun sideways.

and no i am not saying all the chinese mobsters used this SMG, but the concept works on most regular SMG's

Some muzzle breaks redirect some of the gases which causes the muzzle to climb

beat me to it
here have this

Snake: (eyeing Eva's gun) Mauser Military... the "Broomhandle."

Eva: It packs quite a punch. Nice to have when you're on a bike.

Snake: You held it sideways, and used the muzzle jump to create a horizontal
sweep; that was impressive.

Eva: Bet you've never seen that technique in the West.

Loved this game, glad I picked up the HD collection

i had the hd collection but had to sell it(broke student syndrome) but i still have it for ps2. never shot the kerotans, but i did finish without any alerts or kills (the active camo is sooooo much fun) and i caught the mythical tsuchinoko...aarrrgg nostalgia

same here. i love running around with stealth camo, sorrow's camo, and infinity face paint. as long as you have enough suppressors, no one will ever see/hear you lol

my personal favorite is slapping enemies in first person and watching them look around clueless ahhhhaaahahaha but it pissed me off bosses will still spot you instantly.... i also enjoyed eating the ends parrot lol

I've got a 1911 very similar to the one Snake finds in that game and when ever my friend comes over he always grabs it and goes "Hmm, polished feeding ramp, mmmhmm..." over and over again. Give me some laughs lol

i was just thinking the same thing

my thoughts exactly!

well you're the one planning to masturbate to it

**ttallonn rolled a random image posted in comment #183 at I have an Idea ** and least he wont masturbate to this

**atma rolled a random image posted in comment #592201 at Friendly ** more like hfw he masturbates to it

Do you use this to masturbate?

It's pretty conducive to my weekend schedule of masturbating from 9 AM to 11 PM, and then being forced back into my masturbateless job on Monday.

You barely masturbate at all, i feel bad for you

My good friend that is exactly what I was thinking.

full source?

Well, i gave fired more guns than most of you have seen, and all of them, when fired sideways (the ones i could fire sideways) ALWAYS had vertical recoil.

Here is a list: Gallil, p90 (rented it to fire at a gun shop), and a few other hadguns that i dont remeber the name to, and have you even fired a gun?

Here's a list: 2 guns I probably heard of on Call of Duty and I don't know the rest.

10/10 quality list-making skills. You're really making yourself more credible.

I laughed more at this than the rest of the argument (and anything else on FJ today if I'm honest).

That is a poor list though, son.

Im sure you do.

bob, please stop

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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Wonderful list, now name one not from call of duty. Do you even own a single gun?

Basic physics:
The recoil force is applied in a vector equal to the direction of the barrel. When dealing with handguns, the only part of your body resisting the recoil is the hand, which is situated below the barrel. This causes a rotational movement, commonly seen as muzzle flip. A handgun will always rotate in the same direction relative to the shooter's hand, regardless of its orientation.

lots of replys, and i when i posted all of this, i only had -1 on each, not -15

Holding a longbow sideways is a really great way to reduce your draw lenght and thus range meaning that you can't hit the enemy but they can hit you.

butbutbut a bow isn't a gun.

They were still the first guys to hold their weapon sideways and that is where it comes from! google is for fuck sake!

But the fact stated that the chinese mafia were the first one to use GUNS sideways

Inspired by the normands I guess

Bows don't have recoil.

No, they just figured out the best way to shoot. This affected how well their aim was, but they could spray and manage recoil, which is good for gang members.

Well, the reason they held bows sideways, is because A. It supported the arrows, and B. less downtravel.

Hell yeah! Thats where i learned it from too.

Good old Aliens.

I want it. Just becasue of the M41A Pulse rifle

X-Box 360. nothing too special.

I can't afford online, so...
Damn.