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    #24 - breakfastlunch
    Reply+17
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Next time just use more gun
    Next time just use more gun
    #36 to #24 - maskedhippo
    Reply+2
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    GOTTA MOVE THAT GEAR UP!
    GOTTA MOVE THAT GEAR UP!
    User avatar#171 - doodogger
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    So are you saying gangsters actually know what they are doing?
    User avatar#174 to #171 - arstya
    Reply+16
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    They used to.
    User avatar#179 to #174 - shadowhorn
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    i wish gangsters were still like Al Capone
    User avatar#176 to #171 - muchasmarcos
    Reply+6
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    The difference being that they used machine gunns and not pistols that way.
    You won't hit **** if you hold a pistol sideways.
    #363 - boonfg**User deleted account**
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    #364 to #363 - boonfg**User deleted account**
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    User avatar#367 to #364 - krokot
    Reply+8
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Recoil depends on the way you hold the gun and the way it interacts with your hand. If you hold it normally, it pushes your hand backwards. You hold handle of gun vertically, so it kind of jumps up because you can't hold still. If you move gun to horizontal position, the gun bumps into your hand and back horizontally also. It can't go up, because there's no force pushing it up, just sideways.

    This is 100% true, I played a lot of Call of Duty so I'm verified gun expert.
    #376 to #367 - anon id: 44fa98a7
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    It might also have something to do with the firing mechanism. There's a lot going on inside the gun, which might send some force upward. Then again, I'm an anonymous pussy so I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
    #382 to #376 - krokot
    Reply-1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    No, there's nothing forcing it UP(not counting weight of whole body of gun....), it just goes BACK. Which means that your hands stopping it forces it to bounce around. So, the way it bounces depends on way you hold it.    
   
I played GTA too. I know all about guns bitch.
    No, there's nothing forcing it UP(not counting weight of whole body of gun....), it just goes BACK. Which means that your hands stopping it forces it to bounce around. So, the way it bounces depends on way you hold it.

    I played GTA too. I know all about guns bitch.
    #415 to #363 - techketzer
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    If the center of mass is ever so slightly off of the recoil's vector of force, the gun will pivot around it.

    That translates to the muzzle rising as the gun does a fraction of a rotation around your shoulder in most firearm designs.
    #388 to #363 - sprudlebass
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    let's assume the chinese mobsters use the type83 smg, a modified chinese version of the PM63.   
as you se int he immage, the upper reciever, bolt and all that other crap  is situated above the trigger, so when you fire the gun the entire bolt will move backwards and forwards.   
since it is situated above the trigger it will push your hand uppwards from that direction.   
that is my theory off why the recoil would pull the gun sideways.   
   
and no i am not saying all the chinese mobsters used this SMG, but the concept works on most regular SMG's
    let's assume the chinese mobsters use the type83 smg, a modified chinese version of the PM63.
    as you se int he immage, the upper reciever, bolt and all that other crap is situated above the trigger, so when you fire the gun the entire bolt will move backwards and forwards.
    since it is situated above the trigger it will push your hand uppwards from that direction.
    that is my theory off why the recoil would pull the gun sideways.

    and no i am not saying all the chinese mobsters used this SMG, but the concept works on most regular SMG's
    #378 to #363 - CorporalObvious
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Some muzzle breaks redirect some of the gases which causes the muzzle to climb
    #266 - arkensas
    Reply+12
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    "You used the recoil of the gun to create a horizontal spray, that's a skill that's common in the Chinese underground.  Just who are you?" -Snake
    "You used the recoil of the gun to create a horizontal spray, that's a skill that's common in the Chinese underground. Just who are you?" -Snake
    #159 - breakfastskippa
    Reply+12
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    MFW ******* think they invented being 'gangster'.
    MFW ******* think they invented being 'gangster'.
    User avatar#50 - hellraizr
    Reply+12
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    are we sure this fact wasnt pulled out of someones ass after playing mgs3?
    #56 to #50 - beatlestrainerwins
    Reply+4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    beat me to it   
here have this
    beat me to it
    here have this
    User avatar#76 to #50 - bubbleohseven
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Snake: (eyeing Eva's gun) Mauser Military... the "Broomhandle."

    Eva: It packs quite a punch. Nice to have when you're on a bike.

    Snake: You held it sideways, and used the muzzle jump to create a horizontal
    sweep; that was impressive.

    Eva: Bet you've never seen that technique in the West.

    Loved this game, glad I picked up the HD collection
    User avatar#80 to #76 - hellraizr
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    i had the hd collection but had to sell it(broke student syndrome) but i still have it for ps2. never shot the kerotans, but i did finish without any alerts or kills (the active camo is sooooo much fun) and i caught the mythical tsuchinoko...aarrrgg nostalgia
    User avatar#82 to #80 - bubbleohseven
    Reply-2
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    same here. i love running around with stealth camo, sorrow's camo, and infinity face paint. as long as you have enough suppressors, no one will ever see/hear you lol
    User avatar#86 to #82 - hellraizr
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    my personal favorite is slapping enemies in first person and watching them look around clueless ahhhhaaahahaha but it pissed me off bosses will still spot you instantly.... i also enjoyed eating the ends parrot lol
    User avatar#113 to #76 - ARandomSpoon
    Reply-1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I've got a 1911 very similar to the one Snake finds in that game and when ever my friend comes over he always grabs it and goes "Hmm, polished feeding ramp, mmmhmm..." over and over again. Give me some laughs lol
    User avatar#53 to #50 - TheSock
    Reply-1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    i was just thinking the same thing
    #185 - bombadeli
    Reply+11
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    The first time I heard that was in MGS3 (www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeBzVkgsrY) minute 3:50. But any way ***** GANGSTA POSE
    The first time I heard that was in MGS3 (www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeBzVkgsrY) minute 3:50. But any way ***** GANGSTA POSE
    #205 to #185 - pleeyer
    Reply+4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    my thoughts exactly!
    my thoughts exactly!
    #357 - famouspork
    Reply-6
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    and this is on the front page because?
    and this is on the front page because?
    #370 to #357 - atma
    Reply+10
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    well you're the one planning to masturbate to it
    well you're the one planning to masturbate to it
    #383 to #370 - ttallonn
    Reply+2
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    **ttallonn rolled a random image posted in comment #183 at I have an Idea ** and least he wont masturbate to this
    **ttallonn rolled a random image posted in comment #183 at I have an Idea ** and least he wont masturbate to this
    #385 to #383 - atma
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    **atma rolled a random image posted in comment #592201 at Friendly **  more like hfw he masturbates to it
    **atma rolled a random image posted in comment #592201 at Friendly ** more like hfw he masturbates to it
    #387 to #385 - ttallonn
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Do you use this to masturbate?
    Do you use this to masturbate?
    User avatar#389 to #387 - atma
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    It's pretty conducive to my weekend schedule of masturbating from 9 AM to 11 PM, and then being forced back into my masturbateless job on Monday.
    User avatar#401 to #389 - ttallonn
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    You barely masturbate at all, i feel bad for you
    User avatar#187 - willindor#74 on commentsRank#74
    Reply+10
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I thought that they did it because the Type 17 had the nasty habit of getting jammed if you held it vertically.
    #190 to #187 - icedcarbon
    Reply+8
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    My good friend that is exactly what I was thinking.
    My good friend that is exactly what I was thinking.
    #84 - jedisquirrel
    Reply+10
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    But you'll make him dizzy!
    But you'll make him dizzy!
    #222 - meuk
    Reply+9
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    works like a charm.
    works like a charm.
    User avatar#19 - lilnuggetbob
    Reply-24
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    FFS HOLDING A GUN SIDEWAYS DOES NOT MAKE THE KICK GO HORIZONTALLY, OP YOU EVER EVEN FIRED A GUN?!?!!?!
    #20 to #19 - silvercow [OP]**User deleted account**
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    #38 to #20 - vparrish
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    full source?
    User avatar#22 to #20 - lilnuggetbob
    Reply-19
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Well, i gave fired more guns than most of you have seen, and all of them, when fired sideways (the ones i could fire sideways) ALWAYS had vertical recoil.
    #23 to #22 - silvercow [OP]**User deleted account**
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    User avatar#26 to #23 - lilnuggetbob
    Reply-16
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Here is a list: Gallil, p90 (rented it to fire at a gun shop), and a few other hadguns that i dont remeber the name to, and have you even fired a gun?
    User avatar#32 to #26 - schwerdaddy
    Reply+4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Here's a list: 2 guns I probably heard of on Call of Duty and I don't know the rest.

    10/10 quality list-making skills. You're really making yourself more credible.
    User avatar#41 to #32 - Auric
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I laughed more at this than the rest of the argument (and anything else on FJ today if I'm honest).

    That is a poor list though, son.
    #27 to #26 - silvercow [OP]**User deleted account**
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    User avatar#28 to #27 - lilnuggetbob
    Reply-14
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Im sure you do.
    #29 to #28 - silvercow [OP]**User deleted account**
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    User avatar#43 to #28 - einhetvin
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    bob, please stop
    User avatar#52 to #28 - dafuqman
    Reply-1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I don’t give a **** who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your ******* life to a hellish end. I’ll put you in so much ******* pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a ******* back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a **** how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many ******* guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll ******* show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the **** out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a ******* heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my ******* car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could ******* destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great ****** length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a living, breathing ******* hell. It’s too late to save yourself, but don’t bother committing suicide either… I’ll ******* resuscitate you and kill you again myself you bitch-faced phaggot. Welcome to hell, population: you
    User avatar#51 to #26 - dafuqman
    Reply+3
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    What the **** did you just ******* say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little ****. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ******* dead, kiddo.
    #192 to #51 - farticle**User deleted account**
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    User avatar#75 to #26 - thatguywhohasbacon
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Wonderful list, now name one not from call of duty. Do you even own a single gun?
    #68 to #26 - thatguywhohasbacon
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    User avatar#47 to #19 - Zarke
    Reply+4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Basic physics:
    The recoil force is applied in a vector equal to the direction of the barrel. When dealing with handguns, the only part of your body resisting the recoil is the hand, which is situated below the barrel. This causes a rotational movement, commonly seen as muzzle flip. A handgun will always rotate in the same direction relative to the shooter's hand, regardless of its orientation.
    #40 to #19 - Mortuus
    Reply+2
    (02/12/2013)[-]
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    User avatar#74 to #40 - lilnuggetbob
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    lots of replys, and i when i posted all of this, i only had -1 on each, not -15
    #314 - bulwark
    Reply-31
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    ********!!   
   
The origin of holding your guns sideways came from the soldiers of Normandy back on the gool old medieval ages. Their archers started holding their bows sideways, for whatever ******* reason. And this later made them invent the crossbow! BAM! That is where it comes from!   
   
On another note, the word "Thug" comes from a gang of bandits that roamed India many many years ago called the "Thugee"
    ********!!

    The origin of holding your guns sideways came from the soldiers of Normandy back on the gool old medieval ages. Their archers started holding their bows sideways, for whatever ******* reason. And this later made them invent the crossbow! BAM! That is where it comes from!

    On another note, the word "Thug" comes from a gang of bandits that roamed India many many years ago called the "Thugee"
    #345 to #314 - reteip
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Holding a longbow sideways is a really great way to reduce your draw lenght and thus range meaning that you can't hit the enemy but they can hit you.
    User avatar#318 to #314 - heeveejeevees
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    butbutbut a bow isn't a gun.
    User avatar#320 to #318 - bulwark
    Reply-22
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    They were still the first guys to hold their weapon sideways and that is where it comes from! google is for **** sake!
    User avatar#324 to #320 - heeveejeevees
    Reply+7
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    But the fact stated that the chinese mafia were the first one to use GUNS sideways
    User avatar#329 to #324 - bulwark
    Reply-22
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Inspired by the normands I guess
    User avatar#346 to #329 - daftiduck#266 on commentsRank#266
    Reply+4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Bows don't have recoil.
    #377 to #329 - ShockedNazi
    Reply+2
    (02/12/2013)[-]
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    #399 to #377 - anonymousdoctor
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
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    User avatar#335 to #329 - teoberry
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    No, they just figured out the best way to shoot. This affected how well their aim was, but they could spray and manage recoil, which is good for gang members.
    User avatar#334 to #329 - someponynew
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Well, the reason they held bows sideways, is because A. It supported the arrows, and B. less downtravel.
    #172 - bazda
    Reply+7
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Recoil is the force going backwards, into the shooter.
    The muzzle jump is what creates a horizontal sweep when the gun is held sideways.

    Technicalities, I know.
    #54 - comeatmebrother
    Reply+7
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    enlarge
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    User avatar#107 - supercweepy
    Reply+5
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    That actually makes sense. It reminds me of Eva from Metal Gear Solid 3, who fires a Chinese machine pistol (looks like a Mauser c96) sideways.
    #111 to #107 - thetick
    Reply+6
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Hell yeah! Thats where i learned it from too.
    Hell yeah! Thats where i learned it from too.
    #30 - MCPO
    Reply+6
    (02/12/2013)[-]
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    #46 to #30 - dafuqman
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Good old Aliens.
    Good old Aliens.
    #77 to #30 - anon id: 3ea5bbbd
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    That is my favorite movie. Is anybody else getting the game Aliens: colonial marines? i preordered the collectors addition.
    #78 to #77 - MCPO
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I want it. Just becasue of the M41A Pulse rifle
    #79 to #78 - anon id: 3ea5bbbd
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    what system would you get it for if you did get it?
    #81 to #79 - MCPO
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    X-Box 360. nothing too special.
    #83 to #81 - anon id: 3ea5bbbd
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    cool cool. unfortunately im getting it for ps3 so theres no way we could kick alien ass together fellow funnyjunker.
    #87 to #83 - MCPO
    Reply0
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I can't afford online, so...
    Damn.
    #45 to #30 - dafuqman
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    #409 - thegreatbizzo
    Reply+5
    (02/12/2013)[-]
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    #353 - snakefire
    Reply+5
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I knew there had to be a reason behind that gayness   
   
   
Psst, *******... it doesnt work with pistols.
    I knew there had to be a reason behind that gayness


    Psst, *******... it doesnt work with pistols.
    #394 to #353 - emptysuperman
    Reply-6
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Psst, urban white minor... saying ****** on the internet doesn't make you edgy.   
   
And if you want to see some gayness, just look at this cancerous faggot snakefire trying to get laid over the internet.
    Psst, urban white minor... saying ****** on the internet doesn't make you edgy.

    And if you want to see some gayness, just look at this cancerous faggot snakefire trying to get laid over the internet.
    #395 to #394 - snakefire
    Reply+4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    >saying ****** doesnt make you edgy   
>calls me gay trying to be edgy
    >saying ****** doesnt make you edgy
    >calls me gay trying to be edgy
    User avatar#397 to #395 - emptysuperman
    Reply-4
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    Right, because people only say "faggot" against gays. Clearly you are a lonely straight virginfag, faggot.
    #398 to #397 - snakefire
    Reply+1
    (02/12/2013)[-]
    I just don't give a **** man.
    I just don't give a **** man.
    #146 - undercow
    Reply+5
    (02/12/2013)[-]
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