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#24 - breakfastlunch (02/12/2013) [-]
Next time just use more gun
#36 to #24 - maskedhippo (02/12/2013) [-]
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User avatar #378 to #363 - CorporalObvious (02/12/2013) [-]
Some muzzle breaks redirect some of the gases which causes the muzzle to climb
#388 to #363 - sprudlebass (02/12/2013) [-]
let's assume the chinese mobsters use the type83 smg, a modified chinese version of the PM63.
as you se int he immage, the upper reciever, bolt and all that other crap is situated above the trigger, so when you fire the gun the entire bolt will move backwards and forwards.
since it is situated above the trigger it will push your hand uppwards from that direction.
that is my theory off why the recoil would pull the gun sideways.

and no i am not saying all the chinese mobsters used this SMG, but the concept works on most regular SMG's
User avatar #415 to #363 - techketzer (02/12/2013) [-]
If the center of mass is ever so slightly off of the recoil's vector of force, the gun will pivot around it.

That translates to the muzzle rising as the gun does a fraction of a rotation around your shoulder in most firearm designs.
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User avatar #367 to #364 - krokot (02/12/2013) [-]
Recoil depends on the way you hold the gun and the way it interacts with your hand. If you hold it normally, it pushes your hand backwards. You hold handle of gun vertically, so it kind of jumps up because you can't hold still. If you move gun to horizontal position, the gun bumps into your hand and back horizontally also. It can't go up, because there's no force pushing it up, just sideways.

This is 100% true, I played a lot of Call of Duty so I'm verified gun expert.
#376 to #367 - anon (02/12/2013) [-]
It might also have something to do with the firing mechanism. There's a lot going on inside the gun, which might send some force upward. Then again, I'm an anonymous pussy so I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
#382 to #376 - krokot (02/12/2013) [-]
No, there's nothing forcing it UP(not counting weight of whole body of gun....), it just goes BACK. Which means that your hands stopping it forces it to bounce around. So, the way it bounces depends on way you hold it.

I played GTA too. I know all about guns bitch.
#266 - arkensas (02/12/2013) [-]
"You used the recoil of the gun to create a horizontal spray, that's a skill that's common in the Chinese underground. Just who are you?" -Snake
#159 - breakfastskippa (02/12/2013) [-]
MFW ******* think they invented being 'gangster'.
#50 - hellraizr (02/12/2013) [-]
are we sure this fact wasnt pulled out of someones ass after playing mgs3?
User avatar #53 to #50 - TheSock ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
i was just thinking the same thing
User avatar #76 to #50 - bubbleohseven (02/12/2013) [-]
Snake: (eyeing Eva's gun) Mauser Military... the "Broomhandle."

Eva: It packs quite a punch. Nice to have when you're on a bike.

Snake: You held it sideways, and used the muzzle jump to create a horizontal
sweep; that was impressive.

Eva: Bet you've never seen that technique in the West.

Loved this game, glad I picked up the HD collection
#80 to #76 - hellraizr (02/12/2013) [-]
i had the hd collection but had to sell it(broke student syndrome) but i still have it for ps2. never shot the kerotans, but i did finish without any alerts or kills (the active camo is sooooo much fun) and i caught the mythical tsuchinoko...aarrrgg nostalgia
User avatar #82 to #80 - bubbleohseven (02/12/2013) [-]
same here. i love running around with stealth camo, sorrow's camo, and infinity face paint. as long as you have enough suppressors, no one will ever see/hear you lol
#86 to #82 - hellraizr (02/12/2013) [-]
my personal favorite is slapping enemies in first person and watching them look around clueless ahhhhaaahahaha but it pissed me off bosses will still spot you instantly.... i also enjoyed eating the ends parrot lol
User avatar #113 to #76 - ARandomSpoon (02/12/2013) [-]
I've got a 1911 very similar to the one Snake finds in that game and when ever my friend comes over he always grabs it and goes "Hmm, polished feeding ramp, mmmhmm..." over and over again. Give me some laughs lol
#56 to #50 - beatlestrainerwins (02/12/2013) [-]
beat me to it
here have this
#185 - bombadeli (02/12/2013) [-]
The first time I heard that was in MGS3 (www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeBzVkgsrY) minute 3:50. But any way ***** GANGSTA POSE
#205 to #185 - pleeyer (02/12/2013) [-]
my thoughts exactly!
User avatar #187 - willindor (02/12/2013) [-]
I thought that they did it because the Type 17 had the nasty habit of getting jammed if you held it vertically.
#190 to #187 - icedcarbon ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
My good friend that is exactly what I was thinking.
#84 - jedisquirrel (02/12/2013) [-]
But you'll make him dizzy!
But you'll make him dizzy!
#222 - meuk (02/12/2013) [-]
works like a charm.
works like a charm.
#172 - bazda (02/12/2013) [-]
Recoil is the force going backwards, into the shooter.
The muzzle jump is what creates a horizontal sweep when the gun is held sideways.

Technicalities, I know.
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#30 - MCPO (02/12/2013) [-]
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#77 to #30 - anon (02/12/2013) [-]
That is my favorite movie. Is anybody else getting the game Aliens: colonial marines? i preordered the collectors addition.
User avatar #78 to #77 - MCPO (02/12/2013) [-]
I want it. Just becasue of the M41A Pulse rifle
#79 to #78 - anon (02/12/2013) [-]
what system would you get it for if you did get it?
User avatar #81 to #79 - MCPO (02/12/2013) [-]
X-Box 360. nothing too special.
#83 to #81 - anon (02/12/2013) [-]
cool cool. unfortunately im getting it for ps3 so theres no way we could kick alien ass together fellow funnyjunker.
User avatar #87 to #83 - MCPO (02/12/2013) [-]
I can't afford online, so...
#46 to #30 - dafuqman (02/12/2013) [-]
Good old Aliens.
Good old Aliens.
#353 - snakefire (02/12/2013) [-]
I knew there had to be a reason behind that gayness

Psst, ******* ... it doesnt work with pistols.
#394 to #353 - emptysuperman (02/12/2013) [-]
Psst, urban white minor... saying ****** on the internet doesn't make you edgy.

And if you want to see some gayness, just look at this cancerous faggot snakefire trying to get laid over the internet.
#395 to #394 - snakefire (02/12/2013) [-]
>saying ****** doesnt make you edgy
>calls me gay trying to be edgy
User avatar #397 to #395 - emptysuperman (02/12/2013) [-]
Right, because people only say "faggot" against gays. Clearly you are a lonely straight virginfag, faggot.
#398 to #397 - snakefire (02/12/2013) [-]
I just don't give a **** man.
User avatar #107 - supercweepy (02/12/2013) [-]
That actually makes sense. It reminds me of Eva from Metal Gear Solid 3, who fires a Chinese machine pistol (looks like a Mauser c96) sideways.
#111 to #107 - thetick (02/12/2013) [-]
Hell yeah! Thats where i learned it from too.
User avatar #171 - doodogger (02/12/2013) [-]
So are you saying gangsters actually know what they are doing?
User avatar #176 to #171 - muchasmarcos (02/12/2013) [-]
The difference being that they used machine gunns and not pistols that way.
You won't hit **** if you hold a pistol sideways.
User avatar #174 to #171 - arstya (02/12/2013) [-]
They used to.
User avatar #179 to #174 - shadowhorn (02/12/2013) [-]
i wish gangsters were still like Al Capone
#357 - famouspork (02/12/2013) [-]
and this is on the front page because?
#370 to #357 - atma (02/12/2013) [-]
well you're the one planning to masturbate to it
#383 to #370 - ttallonn ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
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#385 to #383 - atma (02/12/2013) [-]
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#387 to #385 - ttallonn ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
Do you use this to masturbate?
User avatar #389 to #387 - atma (02/12/2013) [-]
It's pretty conducive to my weekend schedule of masturbating from 9 AM to 11 PM, and then being forced back into my masturbateless job on Monday.
User avatar #401 to #389 - ttallonn ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
You barely masturbate at all, i feel bad for you
User avatar #19 - lilnuggetbob ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
User avatar #74 to #40 - lilnuggetbob ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
lots of replys, and i when i posted all of this, i only had -1 on each, not -15
User avatar #47 to #19 - Zarke (02/12/2013) [-]
Basic physics:
The recoil force is applied in a vector equal to the direction of the barrel. When dealing with handguns, the only part of your body resisting the recoil is the hand, which is situated below the barrel. This causes a rotational movement, commonly seen as muzzle flip. A handgun will always rotate in the same direction relative to the shooter's hand, regardless of its orientation.
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#38 to #20 - vparrish (02/12/2013) [-]
full source?
User avatar #22 to #20 - lilnuggetbob ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
Well, i gave fired more guns than most of you have seen, and all of them, when fired sideways (the ones i could fire sideways) ALWAYS had vertical recoil.
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User avatar #26 to #23 - lilnuggetbob ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
Here is a list: Gallil, p90 (rented it to fire at a gun shop), and a few other hadguns that i dont remeber the name to, and have you even fired a gun?
User avatar #32 to #26 - schwerdaddy ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
Here's a list: 2 guns I probably heard of on Call of Duty and I don't know the rest.

10/10 quality list-making skills. You're really making yourself more credible.
User avatar #41 to #32 - Auric (02/12/2013) [-]
I laughed more at this than the rest of the argument (and anything else on FJ today if I'm honest).

That is a poor list though, son.
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User avatar #28 to #27 - lilnuggetbob ONLINE (02/12/2013) [-]
Im sure you do.
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User avatar #43 to #28 - einhetvin (02/12/2013) [-]
bob, please stop
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User avatar #51 to #26 - dafuqman (02/12/2013) [-]
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User avatar #75 to #26 - thatguywhohasbacon (02/12/2013) [-]
Wonderful list, now name one not from call of duty. Do you even own a single gun?
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#314 - bulwark (02/12/2013) [-]
******** !!

The origin of holding your guns sideways came from the soldiers of Normandy back on the gool old medieval ages. Their archers started holding their bows sideways, for whatever ******* reason. And this later made them invent the crossbow! BAM! That is where it comes from!

On another note, the word "Thug" comes from a gang of bandits that roamed India many many years ago called the "Thugee"
User avatar #318 to #314 - heeveejeevees (02/12/2013) [-]
butbutbut a bow isn't a gun.
User avatar #320 to #318 - bulwark (02/12/2013) [-]
They were still the first guys to hold their weapon sideways and that is where it comes from! google is for **** sake!
User avatar #324 to #320 - heeveejeevees (02/12/2013) [-]
But the fact stated that the chinese mafia were the first one to use GUNS sideways
User avatar #329 to #324 - bulwark (02/12/2013) [-]
Inspired by the normands I guess
User avatar #346 to #329 - daftiduck (02/12/2013) [-]
Bows don't have recoil.
User avatar #335 to #329 - teoberry (02/12/2013) [-]
No, they just figured out the best way to shoot. This affected how well their aim was, but they could spray and manage recoil, which is good for gang members.
User avatar #334 to #329 - someponynew (02/12/2013) [-]
Well, the reason they held bows sideways, is because A. It supported the arrows, and B. less downtravel.
#345 to #314 - reteip (02/12/2013) [-]
Holding a longbow sideways is a really great way to reduce your draw lenght and thus range meaning that you can't hit the enemy but they can hit you.
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