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#1114 - bigdongdaddy **User deleted account**
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#1128 to #1114 - dharkmoswen
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(01/24/2013) [-]
$3 an hour is WAY less than minimum wage ANYWHERE in the country. If you know of someone making this shoddy amount, you need to call them out on this. It is ILLEGAL to pay someone under minimum wage, tips or no tips. They have a right to take it personally when no tip is made if they did in fact work above and beyond their job. People seem to think that a tip is owed to someone just because they did their job well, nowadays. A tip should be given to those who go above and beyond. (Unless like I do all to often just feel generous.)
#1191 to #1128 - originalryan
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Dude, google minimum wages for tipped employees. Different states are different, you're both right. As a bellboy in FL last year I made 4.65$ an hour from the hotel.......
#1173 to #1128 - GBird
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Actually it is legal to pay below minimum wage, but only if you get tips.
#1131 to #1128 - bigdongdaddy **User deleted account**
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#1144 to #1131 - dharkmoswen
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(01/24/2013) [-]
I will correct myself in one aspect. It IS legal to pay under minimum wage for a few certain jobs, but food service is not a case.
#1136 to #1131 - dharkmoswen
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Not in america it's not. It's called minimum wage for a reason. (under the table pay is not included in this discussion)
#1140 to #1136 - bigdongdaddy **User deleted account**
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#1148 to #1140 - dharkmoswen
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(01/24/2013) [-]
http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/minwage.htm

Look it up yourself. Also, see my earlier statement.
As I said, paying below in the food service industry is illegal.
#1155 to #1148 - bigdongdaddy **User deleted account**
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#1113 - ronyx
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(01/24/2013) [-]
There is no one particular standard "minimum wage". Rather the idea of "minimum wage" is the lowest amount an employer can pay a particular class of employees.



It's this "class" of employees that results in your question. Very specifically, "tipped employees" are a class of employee for which the standard federal minimum wage does not apply. Instead, employers must pay a tipped employee at least $2.13 / hour. HOWEVER, the law also states that if an employee's wage plus that employee's tips do not equal at least the standard minimum wage (currently $5.85 nationally, higher in some states), the employer must make up the difference.



Therefore, it is never correct to state that "waitresses make less than minimum wage." No, they don't. Their NORMAL hourly wage may in fact be less than minimum wage, but the amount of money they earn from wages and tips will always be at least minimum wage (or if not, the employer is breaking the law).
#1134 to #1113 - dharkmoswen
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(01/24/2013) [-]
In america at least, minimum wage is determined by state, and no business or employer can pay ANY employee under said amount.
#1167 to #1134 - verby
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(01/24/2013) [-]
...No. Waiters here get paid less than minimum wage, and federal minimum wage is like $7 or something. I personally make $1.35 an hour cause **** my life
#1120 to #1113 - YoDawgWeHeard
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(01/24/2013) [-]
It's corrupt, but a lot, and I mean a lot of companies don't make up the difference even though it's required by federal law.
#1102 - myaaahhh
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#1100 - superhoney
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(01/24/2013) [-]
I don't tip.
#1179 to #1100 - jbanana
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(01/24/2013) [-]
I'll tip if they earned it. I mean if they really put forth the effort, sure I'll throw in a few bucks..... but just tipping automatically? It's for the birds.
#1142 to #1100 - nuuuuuuuuu
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(01/24/2013) [-]
I bet you don't seed torrents either ye bastard
#1110 to #1100 - kamehamehanurd
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(01/24/2013) [-]
You are the scum of the Earth.
#1141 to #1110 - futtef
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(01/24/2013) [-]
To tip or not to tip, that's anybody's individual decision.
#1221 to #1141 - kamehamehanurd
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(01/24/2013) [-]
The waiter/waittress works off of tips. If they don't get tips, they don't get payed very well.
#1224 to #1221 - futtef
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(01/24/2013) [-]
So? And my money to pay the food in the first place comes from trees or what? If the waiter/ess is friendly I am gonna tip her but if not (what mostly is the case) then she won't receive more than the spare change. And even if I give a tip 5 dollar is maximum imo.
#1097 - gangstafish
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(01/24/2013) [-]
**gangstafish rolls 49**
#1096 - anon
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(01/24/2013) [-]
god I love having rich parents
#1094 - rpursley
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(01/24/2013) [-]
i instantly thought of south park
#1090 - shredmaster
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(01/24/2013) [-]
I see both sides here. She got stiffed hard, 5$ for a $138 ticket might as well not even be a tip. Venting about it on facebook, however, seems to be a stupid idea, and I'm not a big fan of that sense of entitlement either. But I've never been a waiter, so I can't judge how stressful the job really is (I've heard it sucks **** though).
#1086 - combatplatypus
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(01/24/2013) [-]
She had every right to complain about a ******* 3.5% tip...
#1125 to #1086 - ghettojelly
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(01/24/2013) [-]
none of us know how good of a server she was either.. she could've been terrible. i know I personally tip bad waiters less then I do good ones.
#1153 to #1125 - dharkmoswen
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Why do you tip bad waiters?
#1122 to #1086 - mandon
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(01/24/2013) [-]
who knows maybe she gave terrible service... if the service sucked then the tip would reflect that
#1112 to #1086 - kamehamehanurd
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Yeah, but this is very over the top.
#1115 to #1112 - combatplatypus
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(01/24/2013) [-]
I just don't think it's grounds to hunt her down and get her fired.
#1091 to #1086 - Keoul
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(01/24/2013) [-]
But what if the diners were poor and that visit was a special treat!
Maybe they had barely enough for the bill let alone a tip...
#1098 to #1091 - combatplatypus
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Keep in mind they spent $140.
#1105 to #1098 - Keoul
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Most people go all out on a special treat, heck they could have been saving up for that!
#1108 to #1105 - combatplatypus
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Then save enough to tip the waiter/waitress!
#1118 to #1108 - Keoul
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(01/24/2013) [-]
But poorness D:
#1085 - pgeno
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(01/24/2013) [-]
WAIT STAFF UNITE!
#1084 - FourchansChosenone
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(01/24/2013) [-]
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#1082 - freakaleak
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(01/24/2013) [-]
id be mad too, with that ****** of a tip. but she should of bitched about it on facebook.
i dont know who to side with on this one, jimmy rustles or the chick.
#1081 - anon
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(01/24/2013) [-]
That's why I went to college, so that I'm the chef.
#1080 - pgeno
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Wow, thats so ******! if someone stiffed me like that ide be pissed too. **** you jimmy rustles.
#1079 - LocoJoe
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(01/24/2013) [-]
All that entitlement.
"I didn't go to school and am a stupid ****! Please give me handouts!"
#1088 to #1079 - lordaurion
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(01/24/2013) [-]
What the **** are you talking about? She attended college. And a 5 dollar tip for 140 dollar meal is pathetic.
#1095 to #1088 - misticalz
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Maybe she was a ****** waitress?
#1127 to #1095 - CanadianNuts
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#1092 to #1088 - LocoJoe
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(01/24/2013) [-]
How is it pathetic? Person probably saved up enough to even go out. If she wants to get paid properly then she should get a hourly wage job, not one where she has to beg for money. Perhaps waiters should start a union, unfortunately they are too busy complaining about tips to do anything.
#1104 to #1092 - lordaurion
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(01/24/2013) [-]
15% is the normal rate. That's less than 4%. And if you can't pay the tip, you shouldn't go out at all. And get an hourly wage job? What do you think a waitress is? Besides, lets see you find a good job just like that.
#1106 to #1104 - LocoJoe
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(01/24/2013) [-]
What do you mean normal rate? Is it a ******* law? And why shouldn't I get a product because I don't want to pay for some skirt extra for doing her job? Construction my friend. $10 an hour to carry some crap around, nothing much.
#1116 to #1106 - lordaurion
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Are you ******* dense? That's how it works in the US. 15% is the standard tip, it's always been that way. And you don't /have/ to tip, it just makes you look like a huge faggot. And construction? For a woman? Are you stupid?
#1126 to #1116 - LocoJoe
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Well I aint tipping ****. You want money, take it up with the people who made it a decision to cut your wage and expect tips to make it up. I thought women were supposed to be equal and such. If she's too weak to carry 200 lbs of cement in a wheelbarrow she can work fast food, same skill level than being a waiter.
#1077 - anon
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Everyone that is saying that she got what she deserved has obviously never worked in the food industry.
Or if they have, they're just self-righteous assholes.
Waiters and waitresses, especially at a franchise like chili's, live off tips. Restaurants get away with paying below minimum wage because of this. If you order $138 worth of food, and you only tip $5, either she was a terrible waitress to you, or you are just a ******* douchebag.
#1124 to #1077 - futtef
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(01/24/2013) [-]
so that justifies the implied spitting into someone's food? Good sir, if that's your opinion and you have been working in the food industry I sure as hell hope that I never encountered you because I definitely don't tip like 15 bucks on a 100+ dollar bill.
#1072 - anon
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Please understand she didn't actually carry out her threats, it's a dumb thing to fire a girl over.
#1071 - capnwinkelman
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(01/24/2013) [-]
Dr. Jimmy Rustles. Had me floored hahaha
#1065 - drunkasaurus
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(01/24/2013) [-]
This is so ****** up. Waiters are paid under $3 an hour, and we use the tip system so that good waiters make more, bad waiters make less (some places make waiters split the tip and that just defeats the whole point). Unless your couldn't eat your meal you tip 20%, that's just how it works. I completely understand why she was angry, and I would have been to. Have you never exaggerated? I'm sure she wouldn't actually spit in someone's food, but honestly I wouldn't blame her if she did. You sir, are a humongous douchebag.