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#60 - gaussgun
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(01/14/2013) [-]
picture unrelated
#57 - anon
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(01/14/2013) [-]
And now we must legalize steroids!
#56 - willgum ONLINE
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(01/14/2013) [-]
i do not understand this at all
#55 - qauronexoforce
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(01/14/2013) [-]
Steroids isn't specifically restricted from athletes.
Just debunked this whole discussion in less than 10 words.
#52 - northway
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(01/14/2013) [-]
the reason steriods are illegal is because people bet money on sports, and using steriods will count as cheating.
#90 to #52 - bluejupiter
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#53 to #52 - taintedangel
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Yes, becasue that's the reason. >.>
#51 - santapony
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(01/14/2013) [-]
And auto tune for singers?
#44 - guitarguise
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(01/14/2013) [-]
but modeling, although competitive, is not based around dignity or performance. Countries compete against each other in sports, and both sides respect a certain standard. Within countries, teams compete and respect a certain standard. It's what we expect out of them.

I'm fine with photoshopped models. Doesn't matter much to me. It's central to business, not nationality or pride.
#46 to #44 - themastertroller
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(01/14/2013) [-]
stop killing the party and laugh at the joke
#47 to #46 - guitarguise
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(01/14/2013) [-]
1. Title says: "Ponder this".

2. A bunch of comments are taking it seriously, and many people are discussing the issue.

3. I DO WHAT I WANT, BITCH :)
#48 to #47 - themastertroller
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(01/14/2013) [-]
i like your attitude. sorry about that master
#41 - Crusader
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(01/14/2013) [-]
Why are people posting normal pictures to whosville?
#39 - BobbyMcFerrin
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(01/14/2013) [-]
steroid use is toxic to the human body

photoshop isn't

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#49 to #39 - defender
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(01/14/2013) [-]
you should watch bigger stronger faster
#40 to #39 - Marker
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But they are both cheap ways at achieving success in your field. One is a drug, yes, but the argument makes sense.
#43 to #40 - BobbyMcFerrin
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No it doesn't

Using batting gloves isn't illegal.

Using steroids is illegal because it puts pressure on athletes to use body-destroying drugs in order to keep up with their peers.
#45 to #43 - Marker
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Using steroids is illegal because they need a prescription. Athletes break the law simply by owning them.
#54 to #45 - BobbyMcFerrin
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And why do you think they need a prescription genius?

They can do harm if not used properly
#38 - larknok
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Its been said several times already, but I'll add my own two cents.

It's not the same because photoshop doesn't void or nullify any central purpose.

If the central purpose of a sports competition is to select for the most naturally capable human being, then using steroids nullifies or cheats that purpose.

However, there is no central purpose to modelling anywhere which demands that they be natural. We're just looking for aesthetics in models. Not ability, not recognition of natural talent, just aesthetics. Modelling isn't about the model. We don't look at photos of models and go: "Oooh Tyrese Mo' Jackson! She's my favorite model! She's so much better than Tiffany O' Whiteson!" Why? Because, as I said earlier, we only care about the aesthetics. There is no competition going on that the populace as a whole cares about.

If we didn't bother learning athlete names, and we just watched them run / play sports for the aesthetic beauty of the sport, then steroid use wouldn't matter.
#65 to #38 - ponieskilledmyacc
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That's a good point, but I think the reason steroids are illegal is that they have bad side effects to the users, so, if they were legal, even the ones that were against it or that would rather no use it would be forced to, otherwise they wouldn't be able to keep up with the users.
#101 to #65 - larknok
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Contrary to popular belief we don't ban things for being harmful. Hell, there are dozens of things that are legal that you really shouldn't do. I'm sure smoking cigarettes is perfectly legal, and shoving thirty whoppers into your mouth is A-okay. Eating glue? Why the hell not! Steroid use isn't illegal mind you, its just not allowed by competitions.
#102 to #101 - ponieskilledmyacc
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I know, it's not to protect the users, but if it was allowed, it would raise the bar and the ones that care about their health wouldn't be on par with the users. So if it was legal it would be pratically mandatory.
#42 to #38 - HOtaconE
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The problem is, many young girls take what they see seriously and starve trying to reach those unreal proportions. Thankfully, the international modelling society is going to pass a law prohibiting photoshop, or, if you use it, you have to say so on the picture.
#100 to #42 - larknok
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At some level people are responsible for their own insecurities - all influences aside. You can't go around blaming models for teenage girl insecurities. The girls are just gonna hafta get over their insecurities like responsible individuals.
#36 - joesg
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(01/14/2013) [-]
nonsense
#35 - superwheels
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It's because athletes are people being played to be the best at what they do and models are being paid to sell a product, so in the end the real definition of the model is how much they sell and the definition of a great player is that they are better than everyone else in their league.
#34 - anon
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(01/14/2013) [-]
In Israel they have a new law where models cannot be below a certain size and magazines etc. have to disclose if they have Photoshopped the photo to make them appear thinner.
#30 - anon
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(01/14/2013) [-]
because models aren't part of a competition
#24 - dabombmanater
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(01/13/2013) [-]
Steroids are a health issue. Photoshop isn't. Modeling isn't a competition either, you don't really win at it.
#15 - captainromance
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(01/13/2013) [-]
No because they're not in a competition
#25 to #15 - itsupsidedown
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(01/13/2013) [-]
They are in a competition with other models...Hottest one gets the job and the money sounds like a competition to me.
#79 to #25 - lasmamoe
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nono, you dont send photoshopped pictures of yourself to an agency.

You come in, they look at you, they hire you.
THEN photoshop might come into play.

I highly doubt that photoshop would make you get more jobs as a model.
#29 to #25 - hoodedmetal
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Photoshop is still used because even if they look good, they don't look good enough for a magazine cover (stray hairs, lighting effects, slight shape change, etc). Plus they don't really compete in that sense but even then the Hottest might not even get the job because they might not be going for hot but other things that would meet their requirements.
#11 - visualmind
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(01/13/2013) [-]
steroids are illegal in sports because they are illegal to anyone because they could ******* kill you
#50 to #11 - defender
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maybe if you were a little more educated you would change your answer to help with that watch bigger stronger faster and learn something
#18 to #11 - techketzer
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1) Switch your brain on.
2) Compare the deaths due to obesity, tobacco, alcohol, individual traffic and steroids.
3) Realize laws aren't there to save and improve individual lives, but to make society run smoothly.
4) ???
5)Profit.
#19 to #18 - visualmind
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1) Switch your brain on.
2) Compare the deaths due to obesity, tobacco, alcohol, individual traffic and steroids.
3) Now compare the amount of folks that eat food/drive cars to number of people who take roids.
3b) Now realize no one dies from steroids because no one takes them, because they are illegal
4)Profit.
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#20 to #19 - techketzer
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Correlation does not imply causation.   
Human sacrifices, for example, are illegal too, but that is not the primary reason they are practically non-existent; whereas drug use, illegal as well, is wide-spread and prolific.   
The logical conclusion would be that laws are not the deciding factor in whether an event occurs or not.   
   
In other words, laws can be broken. Duh.
Correlation does not imply causation.
Human sacrifices, for example, are illegal too, but that is not the primary reason they are practically non-existent; whereas drug use, illegal as well, is wide-spread and prolific.
The logical conclusion would be that laws are not the deciding factor in whether an event occurs or not.

In other words, laws can be broken. Duh.
#21 to #20 - visualmind
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Correlation does not imply causation. Right.
But when talking about steroids the ban is the main factor they aren't used by many.
#23 to #21 - techketzer
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I doubt that.
Would you happen to have proof for your opinion?
#26 to #23 - visualmind
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i would probably take roids if they were legal and sold in stores.

right now they are expensive as **** and hard to find.
#27 to #26 - techketzer
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That's not proof, my friend.
#28 to #27 - visualmind
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many of my friends would too

any young beta faggot would, i guess

#31 to #28 - techketzer
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That is not empiric proof, only assumption.

I, for one, would not. Not ever.
However, I think it should be everyone's individual and free decision; I think it outside of any government's responsibility.
#32 to #31 - visualmind
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then we agree, i guess
#33 to #32 - techketzer
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Freedom to excel, freedom to fail.
#59 to #33 - spartanonefivesix
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brofist excepted
#58 to #33 - Lulzilla
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#12 to #11 - anon
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so could guns,should they be illegal?
#16 to #12 - visualmind
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(01/13/2013) [-]
you almost make it sound like a question

of course should guns, grenades, flamethrowers and nukes be illegal,
#13 to #12 - anon
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they are, or at least in 90% of the world AKA: not murica
stop thinking murica is the entire world
#17 to #13 - anon
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(01/13/2013) [-]
i live in Britain,stop thinking off the mind set of a pretentious 14 year old who grew up disliking America because his parents told him to
#9 - drunkasaurus ONLINE
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(01/13/2013) [-]
What? Modleing isn't a competition, you're just a body, supposed to look a certain way, to promote a certain product. You can bet when athletes are promoting a product and go to a photoshoot... Yep, photoshop is used.
#8 - ferbisboy
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(01/13/2013) [-]
consider auto-tune for singers?
#6 - anon
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(01/13/2013) [-]
No, because models aren't competing for anything. If they're in a competition then there's no photoshop involved, but there is makeup, so the proper comparison is that makeup shouldn't be allowed in model contests, in which usually there is none because they're mainly comparing the bodies.