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#1018 - thinkwithportals
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Finger's off the trigger, not pointed at anything; could be worse.
#1016 - thedarkestrogue
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Shes holding it correctly wit proper finger guard control. I see nothing wrong with this picture. She knows how to properly use a weapon.
#1011 - anon
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Why don't we just only allow non-lethal weapons for home defense, like a paintball gun with cs gas instead of paint or just rubber bullets? Then you can buy all the real guns you want but leave them at the range in a lock up for when you want to use it in a sporting manner.
#1063 to #1011 - stickalicious
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should someone get into your house with a real gun and you're over here pelting them with paintball guns or rubber bullets, grant you they sting when you get hit, that persons gunna look at like "really? paintballs?" then you're done for anon...
#1054 to #1011 - anon
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Why dont we only allow alcoholic drinks to be bought and drunk in bars, and build the bars into a hotel and make it law to stay in the hotel until you are sober enough to return to public? That would cut down on drunk driving and car accidents right?
Because many people are killed by drunk drivers, that means my responsible drinking in my own home is responsible for those deaths and i should only be allowed to drink in a bar with security that allows no one to leave drunk or with alcohol.

That is no different from responsible gun owners wanting guns. Just because some nut job who should have been under close supervision commits such a deadly crime with a gun, which man has done since he has picked up a rock, that doesn't mean all legal and responsible gun owners should be punished. That's simply pathetic.

Only have guns for sporting purposes? Ok, then lets make anyone who drives anything more than a Sedan, SUV, or Pick-up truck (I.E. Sports cars, muscle cars, etc) leave them at designated car tracks for use because you dont NEED a high-speed sports car or a gas guzzling Hummer to drive on the streets to go where you need.

#1013 to #1011 - thedarkestrogue
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But then you'd have no gun for defense when someone inevitable breaks that law and enters your house with a real gun.
#1020 to #1013 - anon
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also implying there is a 100% chance your house will be broken into, despite the odds realistically being pretty small
#1037 to #1020 - violenthandjob
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Implying non-lethal force will stop/incapacitate someone on drugs or just with adrenaline pumping.
#1040 to #1037 - timmywankenobi
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(01/04/2013) [-]
have you never seen a tazer or dart gun ?
#1043 to #1040 - violenthandjob
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Yes, and I've seen plenty of videos and read plenty police reports of multiple magazines from handguns and multiple rounds from an AR not taking down assailants on PCP .
#1075 to #1043 - thedarkestrogue
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Even on drugs, a bullet to the face kills.
#1078 to #1075 - violenthandjob
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True that my friend.
#1045 to #1043 - timmywankenobi
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(01/04/2013) [-]
fun fact .001 percent of burglars are on pcp buddy.
#1046 to #1045 - violenthandjob
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Where do you get that statistic. Also what makes you think with a burglar in fear of his life that adrenaline won't be just a potent?
#1048 to #1046 - timmywankenobi
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oh and the statistics come from the CIA .
#1047 to #1046 - timmywankenobi
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cause science has proven adrenaline is no match for tranquilizers or electricity .
#1049 to #1047 - violenthandjob
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Tranquilizers take time to work, and there are many police accounts of assailants on something as simple as speed or simply drunk not being affected by tasers. They are in my opinion inferior for defense.
#1053 to #1049 - timmywankenobi
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a tranquilizer gun does take about a minute to work .there are almost no accounts of the newer higher voltage tazers that the police have been using the past four years not working unless the criminal was on crazy amounts of drugs and as I said before most burglars and most people for that matter are not on drugs or at least not at the insane amounts need to be resistant to tazers.
#1055 to #1053 - violenthandjob
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Well personally I wouldn't want to take the chance of anyone like that entering my home. Still though even small amounts of drugs and alcohol can reduce the effects of any taser by changing blood chemistry. I don't know if that would have an effect towards tranquilizers though so I won't speculate.
#1056 to #1055 - timmywankenobi
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slightly reducing the effect of a tazer is like slightly reducing the speed of a charging bull it is still gonna **** you up.
#1065 to #1056 - violenthandjob
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I think you are overestimating the effect tasers may have on some people .
www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAH49NY_iY
Watch this video, skip to 2:05 to see my point. While it's also full of other examples of tasers working as designed it showcases that not everyone is effected the same by a charge regardless of intoxication levels.
#1066 to #1065 - timmywankenobi
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true there are a very few people who are more resistant to tazers (also notice he only had one electrode touching his skin) but the odds of one of them breaking into your house is astronomical.
#1076 to #1066 - violenthandjob
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That is also true, but a point brought up in the video to consider is thick clothing that may be worn causing the probe/prong not to be able to make contact with the skin. Personally I don't hate tasers though, in fact I if I couldn't use/carry a firearm for defense my first choice would be a taser for the same reason that you've been arguing that they usually have a universal effect on most people.
Thing with taser though is that their effectiveness can be reduced by the dynamics of the situation. Say if you were in an area were you couldn't carry a firearm like a state that bans CCW and you're walking through a dark parking lot and a mugger accosts you, in this situation a taser may very well be useful since muggings are usually opportunistic they may be warded off easily such as with a taser. If they are a more aggressive person though tasering them may only escalate the situation, whereas the presence of more deadly defense such as a firearm, knife, etc. may deter even the more aggressive criminal.
#1098 to #1076 - timmywankenobi
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well if your constantly getting into situations with multiple assailants then you need to move to a better neighborhood or carry gas grenades plus Couldn't shooting one of them escalate the situation too and really your gonna kill people for trying to steal your wallet ? that doesn't seem extreme to you it is just a piece of leather. realistically tazers ward of would be assailants almost as well as guns and if you have mace to no one is gonna touch you.
#1104 to #1098 - violenthandjob
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I never brought up multiple assailants, but in that situation I would advocate a firearm even more strongly. Plus I never said anything about discharging the firearm, the presence of one may deter a criminal in and of itself. It's like issuing an ultimatum, they decide where the situation goes from there, if they deescalate that's the end of it. If they turn even more violent, or pull their own weapon you are doing a favor to society by purging them from this violent potentially murderous individual. As for mace, from what I've seen it tends to just piss off determined attackers.
#1111 to #1104 - timmywankenobi
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maybe very determined attackers witch would be very rare in a crime of opportunity .
#1116 to #1111 - violenthandjob
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Which is why I think a taser would be more effective in a situation like that, but at the same time may escalate the situation. You never know how the criminal may react, they are still humans; each one is different and there's no good way to know what they might do, what their full intentions are, or what their capabilities are such as resisting non-lethal force if the confrontation turns violent.
#1118 to #1116 - timmywankenobi
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true but still that doesn't mean you shouldn't try non lethal force first and then if that fails you might use a gun. but really unless you live in a bad area these scenario's are very unlikely to occur.
#1028 to #1020 - thedarkestrogue
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Odds are higher than you think. I have had someone break into my house. My dad also had someone break into his dorm room when he was in college. I see it as a necessary evil.
#1017 to #1013 - anon
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(01/04/2013) [-]
"no defense"
you ever been hit with cs gas boy? or had a rib broken by a rubber bullet?
#1023 to #1017 - oviedoplaya
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(01/04/2013) [-]
You ever had your brains blown out by a real bullet? I havent either, just saying
#1031 to #1023 - thedarkestrogue
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Even that is unnecessary, but you get shot in the leg by a 22, you're on the floor out of business.
#1021 to #1017 - thedarkestrogue
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(01/04/2013) [-]
and "boy"? really? Don't talk down to some you know nothing about.
#1019 to #1017 - thedarkestrogue
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Yes. Even I can keep coming at someone when hit with one though and I only weigh 160 lbs.
#1022 to #1019 - anon
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Then you're ass must be jealous of your mouth.
#1025 to #1022 - thedarkestrogue
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(01/04/2013) [-]
No because unlike you, I tend not to let **** come out of my mouth.
#1010 - serpens ONLINE
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Super opinionated people so afraid of getting thumbed down they are all posting anonymously, seriously look at all the anons down there.
#1012 to #1010 - anon
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(01/04/2013) [-]
if you're talking about this page right here, most of those anons are the same one just spamming.
#1002 - bogbean
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(01/04/2013) [-]
> buttmad anti-gunfags
#1006 to #1002 - anon
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>butt mad pro gun fags
#1004 to #1002 - anon
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#1029 to #1004 - spanishninja
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**** you osama.
#998 - MOFOJOYO
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#1001 to #998 - anon
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#997 - vonspyder ONLINE
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Despite the reply to this comment, this comment is in fact funny and I am staying alive.
#1000 to #997 - anon
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#999 to #997 - anon
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Lol you're still retarded, ****, GO **** YOURSELF!not funny. www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1420293/funniest/
#1003 to #999 - vonspyder ONLINE
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(01/04/2013) [-]
This image has expired
pwned.
#990 - starswirl
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**starswirl rolled a random image posted in comment #5 at subtle hints **   
   
Dads face when he figures out what to get his daughter
**starswirl rolled a random image posted in comment #5 at subtle hints **

Dads face when he figures out what to get his daughter
#995 to #990 - anon
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#987 - anon
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Eatin' some squirrel tonight!
#985 - eight ONLINE
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#981 - anon
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#979 - thehomelessbanana
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I don't really think (or would like to believe) that that's a real gun. Then again, it could be real because, honestly, I don't know **** about guns.
#983 to #979 - anon
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#986 to #983 - thehomelessbanana
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Shut the **** up, Anon.
#977 - TheAnonymousRebel **User deleted account**
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#984 to #977 - anon
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#975 - firinne
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#964 - SonicTeam
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Imagine breaking up with her knowing she owns a gun...
#963 - germanperv
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#960 - desuforeverlulz
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I'm not certain about how I feel. On one hand, she looks like a responsible young lady and her dad would teach her how to exercise care around it, and she looks pretty ******* cool holding that. On the other, giving an underage girl a gun? She looks like she's about in the age where boys and drama is really important to her. You really have no idea if she'll decide to kill herself with that thing on a very emotional night alone in her room after getting broken up with through text.
#1033 to #960 - narwhalsnballs **User deleted account**
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#959 - xxxgnipsxxx
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I like the magpul stock and foreguard.
^it hurt to spell that sorry
#958 - eight ONLINE
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People fear what they do not understand. Anti-gun folk do not understand the many purposes of weapons, being for self and home defense, hunting, shooting ranges, and above all for defense against your own government or invading enemy.

I often see "I do not understand why regular people need "Assault Rifles", they don't need them. And we really don't need any guns at all."...

Well maybe if you would understand, you might think differently.
#1026 to #958 - iammeto
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wow dude, i didnt think about it that way :o i'm gonna buy myself and all my friends some nuclear bombs because you know...my government and invading enemy use those   
yeah this really makes the world a safer place :D great idea!
wow dude, i didnt think about it that way :o i'm gonna buy myself and all my friends some nuclear bombs because you know...my government and invading enemy use those
yeah this really makes the world a safer place :D great idea!
#1132 to #1026 - eight ONLINE
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Hey, that is the way the constitution was written, I am not making the rules up.
Perhaps we should limit the immense power of the government rather than allow them take little power from us. After all, our government is surely responsible for many more deaths per year than all U.S civilians with guns.
#1015 to #958 - atr
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But....there aren't really any assault rifle for civilians in America...
#1131 to #1015 - eight ONLINE
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Notice the quotes, indicating sarcasm. It isn't really an assault rifle, yet the government still calls semi autos assault rifles simply because assault rifle is a negative sounding word. It is called propaganda.
#1161 to #1131 - atr
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I know that, but some of them are just plain retarded and don't know the difference, and everything that isn't an M16 is an AK-47.
#971 to #958 - anon
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(01/04/2013) [-]
Way to be a generalizing retard.
#962 to #958 - LeviV
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see, I don't really agree with automatics and assault rifles. I think everyone is in a different situation, and to each their own. If you don't mind me asking, why is it that people "need" assault rifles and whatnot? (Not trying to be a dick, I'm legitimately curious)
#968 to #962 - nocandy
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I can bring up a whole host of quotes that show that the Founding Fathers were basically trying to legalize revolution, and assault weapons and automatics might be needed for that since you know, that's what the government will be using against you.

But on a personal level, they're a lot more fun than bolt-action rifle. range-shooting is one of my favorite pasttimes.
#967 to #962 - eight ONLINE
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Nobody has assault rifles in America to my knowledge. They are already illegal.
People do not even understand what they are speaking out against.
#989 to #967 - anon
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Unless you have a class 3 license.
#970 to #967 - nocandy
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automatics are illegal in a lot states provided they were put in circulation on or before 1984.
It requires a Class 3 license which requires that you register all your class 3 weapons (automatics, short barreled rifles, silencers and "destructive weaponry") with the federal government and comes with a $500 annual tax.
#976 to #970 - eight ONLINE
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And try to come by one of those automatics, you can't. To my knowledge, you can not sell them, buy them, give them away, they are your personal property. If you die, it is required that they are confiscated.
#980 to #976 - nocandy
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Machine-Guns/BI.aspx

Under law they have to ship it to a Class 3 Licensed Dealer, who can then give it to you assuming you pass background checks.
(I wish I have 18k for that Vickers, real piece of history right there QQ)
#982 to #980 - eight ONLINE
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18,000? No thanks. I shall stick with my semi, saves ammo anyway.
#988 to #982 - nocandy
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Yeah automatics are really expensive. The cheapest thing on there is an mp5 for 2k.
#973 to #970 - nocandy
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meant "are legal" not "illegal"
#969 to #967 - LeviV
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I agree with you there. I'm not exactly a gun nut, nor am I anti gun. I see a lot of the latter being morons thinking all guns are evil and need to go, and the former claiming they're the solution to everything. It seems like there's no happy medium, y'know?
#974 to #969 - eight ONLINE
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Yeah. I also think it is wrong to make the good people suffer for the few bad peoples actions.
#978 to #974 - LeviV
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Exactly. Though I think everyone has a duty to be responsible with their weapons and whatnot (not only guns, but blades, tasers, bows, etc) and sadly that's not always the case.
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#954 to #951 - eight ONLINE
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Be happy freedom still exists somewhere in the world...or at least for the time being.
#961 to #954 - dobbelganger
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Guns =/= freedom

Europeans can use knives or tasers for self defense from crimes that are rare to begin with unlike guns infested 'murica
#966 to #961 - nocandy
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Statistically speaking, you're as safe in the U.S. as you are in Europe as long you steer clear of gangs and drugs.

We have a horrific gang problem.
#965 to #961 - eight ONLINE
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Yeah, well when the next dictator takes charge and invades your country, and it will happen eventually, you will wish you had weapons to defend your friends and family.

Also, your rate of crime is equal in ratio to Americas for the amount of guns available in comparison to gun death. It just comes with the territory.
#991 to #965 - anon
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****** you're dumb as ****, put your tinfoil hat back on