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#308 - cazr (01/03/2013) [-]
God = Life - Truth

I need this shirt :D
User avatar #196 - xigganin (01/03/2013) [-]
OH! Here's an idea!

Why doesn't everyone just keep their noses out of other people's asses? Sound good? Sounds good.


Glad that's settled.
#72 - psychfouronenine (01/03/2013) [-]
First, let me get this out of the way, I'm a Christian.


Now, for the meaty part of the post: I can't for the life of me figure out why people do that kind of thing. It's like "Hey, you don't share the same beliefs I do, let me show you how big of a twat I am". Now, I know both sides have it (Pic somewhat related), but that doesn't make either side right. We need to love each other, period. That's one of the most basic principles of the bible. "Love thy neighbor".

For all of you, Christian or not, I encourage you to watch some of the videos from Francis Chan (He's an incredible preacher from California). Just give it a chance, you won't regret it.
#92 to #72 - anon (01/03/2013) [-]
You had me agreeing until "go watch the preacher". That starts to force your religion on others, which is exactly what you're against. Everything else is good.
User avatar #119 to #92 - jajathezombie (01/03/2013) [-]
He's just encouraging people to watch the videos, not spamming links or being a dick about it. Also, reading religious text or hearing what men of the cloth have to say doesn't mean you're religious. I don't believe in God, but I went to Catholic school and developed a friendship with a priest there, and I often go to him for advice. He's not overly preachy and has given me good advice over the years. I've also attended lectures given by cardinals who tried to teach Catholics to believe in evolution rather than pure creationism.

tl;dr: Not all religious people are trying to convert you and many clergymen's teachings have merits beyond religion.
User avatar #356 to #92 - psychfouronenine (01/03/2013) [-]
You had me reading until I realized you don't have the courage to put an internet name behind your comment.
User avatar #95 to #72 - fuckthepolice (01/03/2013) [-]
I love religious people like you, the ones that really get it. They understand the fundamental principles of what they believe, unlike so many others. Religion is meant to serve two purposes and that's it. To give people an explanation for the unknown and to encourage love, understanding and acceptance. There are still gripes I have about your philosophies, beliefs and attitudes towards certain things. For example, my friend is the same way, a reborn Christian who is amazingly kind to everyone, but he still believes stupid things like homosexuality being a choice and that it's wrong, but I look past that because I realize that at heart he is a really good person, and I can imagine that you're like that as well. Despite me being a fervent atheist there was a feeling of mutual respect between us. Unfortunately there are way too many corrupt people that use religion as a scapegoat in order to project their corrupt agendas onto others, and that is why I'm so against organized religion, but people like you give me hope again, too bad you're so few and far between. Also, not all atheists are hateful either, I live by the philosophy of Marcus Aurelius “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” Good for you. Keep it up and continue loving everyone, it's the only way to be.
User avatar #354 to #95 - psychfouronenine (01/03/2013) [-]
My views on the big topics:

Homosexuality: The Bible says it's a sin, but it also says every sin is the same in God's eyes (meaning they're no "worse" than any other person, so live and let live if they're happy).

Abortion: I'm a dude. I don't have the right to have an opinion here.

Also, on your beliefs, the problem with that philosophy is you're banking on God's view of "just" being the human view. He doesn't have the same standards that we do (this goes in the finite to infinite comparison). Like I said before, God sees that every sin holds the exact same weight. Murder is no worse than lying. So, having said that, do you really want to bank on God having a human viewpoint?
User avatar #362 to #354 - fuckthepolice (01/03/2013) [-]
No, but I would bank on God being all-knowing enough to be able to look inside me and see that I was at heart a good person. If the omniscient being that created the universe is incapable of that then He isn't much of a god.
#169 to #72 - jinkazama (01/03/2013) [-]
The post wasn't about bashing religion. It was about the shirt, which was supposed to support god but actually went by the logic that god isn't real.
#3 - supahsayin (01/02/2013) [-]
This is a recipe fer' a ********* if it makes it to a high point
#353 - brothergrimm ONLINE (01/03/2013) [-]
#332 - anonymoose (01/03/2013) [-]
Jesus once said "I am the way and the truth and the life."
. . . now Jesus being 1/3rd of the Trinity that is God, that means that truth and life together are 2/3rds of 1/3rd of God, meaning:
Truth + Life = (2/9)(God)

or rearrange it to be:
Truth = (2/9)(God) - Life

We can also deduce from the above equation that that:
Truth = Life - God

Combining these two, we can tell that:
Life - God = (2/9)(God) - Life

2(Life) = (11/9)(God)
Life = (11/18)(God)

If life is finite, that means that God is finite.
User avatar #340 to #332 - Metallicock ONLINE (01/03/2013) [-]
2deep4me
#344 to #332 - ishotthedeputy (01/03/2013) [-]
Alright so if I am a life, dose that mean I am 61.11% God?
#330 - shesaidshewaslegal (01/03/2013) [-]
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"no guis really am i cool and edgy yet enuff 4u, god is dumb an so r peopl who beliv in him"
#339 to #330 - matzic (01/03/2013) [-]
Hurr durr I typd sumwuns poosishun lyk uh 4 yeer olde therfor Im rite!
Hurr durr I typd sumwuns poosishun lyk uh 4 yeer olde therfor Im rite!
#343 to #339 - shesaidshewaslegal (01/03/2013) [-]
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I never said I was right or made an any standpoint that I'm right, I'm simply making fun of the person
#360 to #343 - matzic (01/03/2013) [-]
You win this round
#382 to #330 - thewitchking (01/03/2013) [-]
Reminds me of that guy.
#130 - jaketasticness (01/03/2013) [-]
MFW I believe in God. But then I get over it.
User avatar #307 to #130 - pokemonstheshiz (01/03/2013) [-]
it's not making fun of your belief, it's just making fun of the poorly thought out t-shirt
#392 - nuggetry (01/03/2013) [-]
the most useful GIF for religious internet debates.
the most useful GIF for religious internet debates.
User avatar #19 - norboro (01/03/2013) [-]
and god = life - truth
#34 to #19 - urbkid (01/03/2013) [-]
i like that way better then his way it cuts straight through the BS
#348 - ishotthedeputy (01/03/2013) [-]
**ishotthedeputy rolled a random comment #1 posted by firinne at Yo Dawg ** :
Snake... you've created a time paradox!
My opinion on God
User avatar #310 - grimgrey (01/03/2013) [-]
What if God exists? People shouldn't be judged for their beliefs. Not as long as it doesn't make you a bad person.
#188 - fleszar (01/03/2013) [-]
what if that guy/girl were atheist? and he/she is math teacher.
User avatar #189 to #188 - thebritishguy (01/03/2013) [-]
and I/me doesn't care
#190 to #189 - fleszar (01/03/2013) [-]
so?
User avatar #204 to #190 - thebritishguy (01/03/2013) [-]
I don't know it just seemed a clever thing to say at the time
User avatar #46 - CaptainObviious (01/03/2013) [-]
Hey! Guys, guess what... are you ready for this? Here goes: I believe in God!

If you don't, its not like I shall hate you for all eternity for no reason. unless you're a cunt, everyone hates cunts regardless of believes :)
#291 - mitchimusk (01/03/2013) [-]
When people say "Why would a god who loves us let bad things happen?" I think it's a really dumb question. It's like blaming the principal of the school for letting you get beat up by a kid. Like that guy at Sandy Hook...I think his problem was that he prayed too much or that he was a little too religious....

(except Muslims because 9/11)
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#269 - certifiedidiot (01/03/2013) [-]
I simply am unable to fully believe in anything supernatural or some sort of deity, that is not my choise.   
   
I am fully against religion and anyone selling the supernatural, those who use it to be a better person, go ahead, but for the most part it's people taking other peoples money by playing on their belief, fooling them if you will.   
   
And the most despicable is those cons to ''holy healers''   
   
Kinda sad to see religion still playing a role on politics in some places.
I simply am unable to fully believe in anything supernatural or some sort of deity, that is not my choise.

I am fully against religion and anyone selling the supernatural, those who use it to be a better person, go ahead, but for the most part it's people taking other peoples money by playing on their belief, fooling them if you will.

And the most despicable is those cons to ''holy healers''

Kinda sad to see religion still playing a role on politics in some places.
User avatar #273 to #269 - thegingermancan (01/03/2013) [-]
+1 because username
#275 to #269 - anon (01/03/2013) [-]
Religon may not have the ability to truely heal somone but sometimes it can be a useful crutch.
-zolec
User avatar #302 to #275 - certifiedidiot (01/03/2013) [-]
The harm happens when people accept money for their holy services which promises full healing when they should go seek a actual doctor instead.
#284 to #269 - mitchimusk (01/03/2013) [-]
Religion only plays a role in politics because the views are the same. Like murder and stealing and such. Even if you're unreligious, these rules should probably apply to you. And also, I am Christian and I hate all the self-righteous assholes who try to shove their beliefs down another's throat. This applies to any religion and atheism.
#337 to #284 - anon (01/03/2013) [-]
but what about governments who don't legalise gay marriage because it is "against god's will?" politicians saying they will never endorse it because it goes against their beliefs, when they are their to serve the people. that rustles me greatly
User avatar #271 to #269 - disturbedfan (01/03/2013) [-]
I can promice you though, we aren't all bad! I'm Christian and I ******* HATE IT when other Christians try to shove thier beliefs down others throats. Don't hate the teacher, hate the idiots that takes things too far.
User avatar #304 to #271 - certifiedidiot (01/03/2013) [-]
I know that, I'd be blatantly stupid if I thought I could judge everyone by someone elses actions.
#219 - anon (01/03/2013) [-]
it also follows God = Life - Truth
#232 to #219 - catephant (01/03/2013) [-]
Doesn't that mean the same thing, that God is life without the truth?
User avatar #245 to #219 - yunoknow (01/03/2013) [-]
that's smart. real smart.
User avatar #126 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
Hey, guys. Darwins theory about survival of the fittest, is still just a theory.

* ********* , inbound.*
User avatar #137 to #126 - kievaughnb (01/03/2013) [-]
Do you know what the definition of theory is?

Not trying to belittle you, I'm legitimately wondering.
User avatar #140 to #137 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena?
User avatar #145 to #140 - kievaughnb (01/03/2013) [-]
From that definition, how is "just a theory" a statement of any weight?

It's like saying, "just the evidence". If it's been tested multiple times and explains facts/phenomena, it has yet to be disproven as a whole, just modified.

Also, survival of the fittest in itself isn't a theory, it's a fact. The fittest to survive do survive, and there's empirical evidence to support that. The theory connected to it, however, is not a fact.

And most of our understanding of the universe is "just a theory", but that doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means we don't have a ToE, so we can't say for sure that it's true, even if we have evidence to support it.

Once again, I'm not attempting to offend you, only debate respectfully.
User avatar #153 to #145 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
Yet, just because it have yet to be disproved, that doesn't mean that it's not a theory, there may be another explanation for this empirical evidence, or something that would suggest something else would have a finger in play under these events.
User avatar #155 to #153 - kievaughnb (01/03/2013) [-]
I'm not saying it's not a theory, I'm saying it is. But a theory is a collection of proven hypotheses.
#158 to #155 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
Yet, it's still a theory.

God is real, it says so in the bible.
User avatar #164 to #159 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
Oh come on, diden't you even chuckle?
#128 to #126 - narlex (01/03/2013) [-]
What?
User avatar #129 to #128 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
"Survival of the fittest" is a phrase originating in evolutionary theory, as an alternative description of natural selection.
#131 to #129 - narlex (01/03/2013) [-]
Are you trying to say that the Theory of Evolution is in fact a theory?
User avatar #134 to #131 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
Evolution and natural selection is 2 different things.

By definition.

Evolution is the change in allele frequency over time in a population of organisms. This means simple reproductive recombination, genetic drift and gene flow are all evolution without natural selection being involved.

Natural selection is the non-random differential reproductive success of randomly varying replicators. ( individuals ) So, there must be a selective process that results in some organisms leaving more genes in the gene pool, allele frequency change, that drives adaptive evolution. Natural selection, in the form of an ever changing environment, drives much of evolution and explains much about evolution, though we would still have evolution without natural selection.
#136 to #134 - narlex (01/03/2013) [-]
Great.
User avatar #144 to #136 - whitenerdy (01/03/2013) [-]
Nobody wants to feed the troll today it seems...
#40 - cometfire (01/03/2013) [-]
How about you quit shoving your beliefs down other peoples throats, asshole.
#74 to #40 - bloodmagic (01/03/2013) [-]
He's not sharing any beliefs. Just using math on the tee-shirt.
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