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#893 - eyemthestrongest **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #789 - mahnamesjakers (12/31/2012) [-]
Yes, this is true, but the lawyer you are given is barely adequate in most scenarios. Also, if you don't have a doctor you can go to the emergency room and they cannot deny to treat you.
User avatar #904 to #789 - mexicanfood (12/31/2012) [-]
Except that their job is to stabilize you and nothing more. You dont go to the ER for knee replacement, cancer, heart surgery, etc. That and they DO bill you its just you dont have to, but if you dont they just **** over the actual paying customers by charging them more
User avatar #1056 to #904 - mahnamesjakers (12/31/2012) [-]
Yes but by that logic the lawyer that you are given only "stabilizes" you in a sense to give you a fighting chance. Also, just as that lawyer that people are given comes from tax dollars, so would universal health care, it would just cost a hell of a lot more. I see your point though.
User avatar #727 - tintoes (12/31/2012) [-]
If you go to a hospital they treat you..... regardless if you have insurance or not. If I'm in a car crash and I get take to a hospital, they don't ask me on my way into the OR "Do you have insurance ? because if not, its out to the curb asshole."
User avatar #467 - fourtwentt (12/31/2012) [-]
actually the 2nd line should be 'if you cannot afford a doctor, we will be fining you'
User avatar #403 - mrsockz (12/31/2012) [-]
Well thats because if America socialized medicine the doctors would walk out and refuse to treat anyone, because doctors earn ten times whatever the government would offer them. Secondly the government would have to raise taxes to pay for socialized medicine and the people wouldnt want to pay more.
User avatar #386 - atkissonbr (12/31/2012) [-]
it doesn't matter how poor you are, you will always get treated for illness or injury in the united states, you will never be turned down because you are poor. The problem is that people will still have to pay the medical bills afterwards, but that's what medical insurance is for.

if you don't have insurance, then it is OK to say "tough **** "

Also, you get appointed a lawyer because you have the right to a fair trial under the United States constitution
#682 to #386 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
******** you won't. If you got shot, they'll stitch you up and throw you out the door, but other than that you're sol
User avatar #905 - ryanfitzyxtwo (12/31/2012) [-]
Since the hate is on top of the US, does that make Canada Scum?
#906 to #905 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
**anonymous rolled a random comment #2661853 posted by theonetruespitfire at MLP Friendly Board ** :
he's alright
User avatar #782 - trevofcsp (12/31/2012) [-]
I'm American and this is hilarious
#784 to #782 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
im an anon and no one cares
User avatar #648 - toosexyforyou (12/31/2012) [-]
Except doctors will still treat you anyway which is why it costs so much. You're not just paying for yourself but you're also paying a percentage of what other people haven't been able to pay.
User avatar #633 - roflzombie (12/31/2012) [-]
i am american and i am very offended so i thumbed this down............i found this funny
User avatar #598 - JohnTheRipper (12/31/2012) [-]
User avatar #612 to #611 - xpurpledragonx (12/31/2012) [-]
I see, that is a good point.
#615 to #612 - JohnTheRipper (12/31/2012) [-]
why thank you, kind sir. You are the first to understand.
User avatar #621 to #615 - xpurpledragonx (12/31/2012) [-]
I can see why you must be relived. Many people don't have the intelligence to comprehend such thoughts. You truly are a genius, only surpassed by your kindness. I Bid thee fair well.
#623 to #621 - JohnTheRipper (12/31/2012) [-]

goodbye my love
User avatar #86 - gmarrox (12/30/2012) [-]
Hospitals can't turn you away for any reason. I'm all for a good America joke but this is just ******* retarded.
User avatar #92 to #86 - pjotor (12/30/2012) [-]
And afterwards you are stuck with a bill you can't pay, therefore:

User avatar #107 to #92 - gmarrox (12/30/2012) [-]
And the worst possible outcome of that is you can declare bankruptcy and receive welfare. Jesus Christ. Contrary to the popular belief of the world, America doesn't just leave poor people to rot. I live within walking distance of like 5 homeless shelters, too.
User avatar #127 to #107 - pjotor (12/30/2012) [-]
Not leaving to rot is not the same of as giving education aid. The american "welfare" system is not even close to capable to handle the problem.

And also by the way you speak about it being declared bankrupt is something pleasant. Like its the end of all your problems or somthing like that.
User avatar #136 to #127 - gmarrox (12/30/2012) [-]
Everyone in America is guaranteed at least a High School education, and if you try hard, participate in extra curricular activities, and make fantastic grades, you run the chance of getting a free ride through college.
User avatar #142 to #136 - pjotor (12/30/2012) [-]
Sorry I accidentally my sentence a bit.
Meant adequate, not education.
User avatar #144 to #142 - pjotor (12/30/2012) [-]
Seems like I can't grammar today
User avatar #139 to #127 - pjotor (12/30/2012) [-]
Meant adequate, not education
#759 - wolfeye (12/31/2012) [-]
Meh, I've been in hosptials and I've done time. To be really fair about it, at least in prison they 'have' to take care of you.

...Not saying I'd ever go back. **** that white jumpsuit ******** .
#762 to #759 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
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#767 to #759 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
******** . Jumpsuit white that **** . Back go ever I'd saying Not...

You. Of care take to 'have' they prison in least at, it about fair really be to. Time done I've and hospitals in been I've, meh
#763 to #759 - leary (12/31/2012) [-]
i know man, parking tickets these days are rough going...
#770 to #763 - wolfeye (12/31/2012) [-]
Oh it's not a hardcore thing, trust me. I'm embarrassed I had to go, it's just something you have to accept when the felony lingers on your record while applying for jobs :P

That made me chuckle though, free thumb for you xD
#827 to #770 - hammarhead (12/31/2012) [-]
you were such a good sport there, that i just cant help but reward you with complimentary boobs.
#927 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
****** hell op is a fag.
America has the best healthcare system IN THE WORLD. We have more doctors and nurses per person then any other country in the world. And our justce system is the way it is so people can always get a fair trial which is more important then making retards and drains on society better when they wont even help our country.
Other countries have ********* prison systems where you get locked up for ages for not doing anything and dont get any time for murders. Here you can get free lawyers so that wont happen dumbass

tl;dr America rules, suck a dick eurofags and ausfags
#938 to #927 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
stfu ameri-fag
User avatar #1077 to #927 - madmaninside (01/01/2013) [-]
Hahahaha, did this post upset you some what. I'm glad to see you posted as anon, show's that you must really love the USA that much, you are not prepared to tell us who you are. We would only hate you a little bit.
#937 to #927 - sillisoppa (12/31/2012) [-]
not sure if sarcasm or not
User avatar #948 to #927 - slumberdonkey (12/31/2012) [-]
always get a fair trial
always get a fair trial
always get a fair trial
have you ever heard of the west memphis three?
User avatar #573 - amateriandarknut (12/31/2012) [-]
First off, socialism is the last thing you want involved in your healthcare. If doctors get paid whether you live or die, there's no incentive to try harder. So good doctors leave.

Second, regardless of whether you can afford it or not, you cannot be denied service at a hospital in emergency conditions. And if you can't afford it, you should probably start working instead of relying on food stamps and unemployment.
User avatar #593 to #573 - alexhill (12/31/2012) [-]
They are just theories which have been proven wrong by most of the nations in the world with socialised healthcare. The FACTS state that socialised healthcare is the more effective system in terms of cost and treatment
User avatar #599 to #593 - amateriandarknut (12/31/2012) [-]
Unless you've got facts that defy logic, don't waste my time. People stop caring if they know doing well gets no rewards, The school system is enough of a show for that, and if that's not enough, look at Kansas school systems which tend to have math done with a "completion" grading system. As long as you do the work, right or wrong, you get full credit. Sure everyone does well on homework, but when it comes to tests and quizes, the students do a ****** job and are only passed by their homework scores.
User avatar #614 to #599 - alexhill (12/31/2012) [-]
Well according to The World Health Organization America is 38th in the ranking for healthcare with Saudi Arabia 12 places above America. The facts are undeniable. And education your are 16th in the world with countries that have socialised education systems at the top
User avatar #643 to #614 - belzb (12/31/2012) [-]
Exactly, most of the Americans on the right these days are completely ******* stupid and support everything that is counterproductive in our legislature. Not everyone in U.S. is ******* stupid it's just the stupid people are in far greater numbers.
#656 to #643 - crowsnest (12/31/2012) [-]
So according to you only the right wing is causing gridlock? Thats such an ignorant thing to say. "The other side doesn't agree with us so its their fault her derrrrr" To be honest Im a libertarian and I'm tired of the two party system. Nothing will ever get done with either party in office right now.
User avatar #665 to #656 - belzb (12/31/2012) [-]
I'm not saying that but thank you for assuming I did.
User avatar #652 to #643 - alexhill (12/31/2012) [-]
Exactly people are too stubborn and believe their ways are the best but when lives are at stake its just ridiculous how people disregard solid facts
User avatar #660 to #652 - belzb (12/31/2012) [-]
What pisses me off is that there is no arguing with them, you lay down fact after fact after fact and they don't have any response but refuse to acknowledge any validity in what you just said and they are just so into the fearful propaganda about socialism taking over america, and liberals being gay devil worshiping communists who are trying to destroy religion and god.
#704 to #660 - crowsnest (12/31/2012) [-]
Then you have been talking exclusively to uneducated conservatives. I go to a university in the south and it is FILLED with kids who go to college and either A - didnt have an affiliation and turn into uneducated liberals, or B - grew up with conservative parents who didnt teach their children anything about conservatism. I have a field day debating with all of them, so I kinda know what you mean haha
User avatar #706 to #704 - belzb (12/31/2012) [-]
See that's what I was saying earlier when I said there are too many stupid people on the right. But I will concede that I don't always agree with the left and some of them seem just like extreme hippies and are thus hella stupid.
#709 to #706 - crowsnest (12/31/2012) [-]
Oh my god..... we finished an arguement with an agreement....on.... the internet.......this feels weird
User avatar #710 to #709 - belzb (12/31/2012) [-]
There are many things that come to mind right now, like the I'm a little bit country youre a little bit rock n roll song from south park, somebody needs to call the president of the internet and tell him there is hope.
#717 to #710 - crowsnest (12/31/2012) [-]
.....Mnow my god. Quoting southpark is my favorit past-time. Did we just become best friends?
User avatar #720 to #717 - belzb (12/31/2012) [-]
You wanna go do karate in the garage? If so then yes I think we did.
#678 to #599 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
asks for facts
ignores that the rest of the world works pretty ******* well
#527 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
Posting as anon for inevitable **** storm.

I refuse to pay for free healthcare for someone else that sits on their ass all week long living off of welfare checks, but has a 2010 Charger sitting in their front yard.

I refuse to be told whether or not I can defend myself. Especially when people that are NOT law abiding are going to have guns anyway.

It's my opinion. Get over it.
#551 to #527 - tyroneisanigger (12/31/2012) [-]
Pay for free healthcare? One question for that. What about the people that REALLY need free / very very low cost health care? Say a couple (wife and husband) together incomes are less than 10K, the wife has cancer and the husband has diabetes, what then? Their incomes cannot afford treatments....
User avatar #595 to #551 - amateriandarknut (12/31/2012) [-]
Life savings + insurance
If you don't have either of these, it's your own damn fault.
#1054 to #595 - tyroneisanigger (12/31/2012) [-]
I'm not too sure you're even old enough to complain about this young man.
User avatar #1071 to #1054 - amateriandarknut (01/01/2013) [-]
That hardly matters when I know to invest in them when I'm able.
#832 to #551 - mrdrpage (12/31/2012) [-]
Allow me to rephrase that a little better... "I refuse to pay for 'universal' free health care for others."

What about the people who's income can barely support themselves, let alone your broke ass?

They were perfectly fine with their private healthcare plan, but now they are paying for another plan that they CAN'T afford.

They can still live a healthier life (assuming the doctor even tries because he's now getting paid whether you live or die) because of free health care, but they have no home to return to now.

Then what?

Houses foreclose and everyone complains that the system sucks.

Again, just my opinion with scenarios.
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User avatar #534 to #527 - solarruner (12/31/2012) [-]
I agree 100%
User avatar #577 to #527 - amateriandarknut (12/31/2012) [-]
I stand by this. I'm sick of people abusing the system, and I'm sick of Obama intentionally making it easier for them to abuse it.
User avatar #586 to #527 - RJHammerCock (12/31/2012) [-]
I never thought I would actually encounter an intelligent person on this website.
#12 - anon (12/30/2012) [-]
and this is why i love living in germany. Free ************* healthcare.vyou didnt have to pay a cent.
#15 to #12 - anon (12/30/2012) [-]
you still have to pay. Just through taxes, rather than on your own. Believe me, it's not free.
#49 to #12 - firesky (12/30/2012) [-]
There's still a a two class society between people with compulsory health insurance and ones with private health insurance.

Especially at transplantations and expensive medicaments(against cancer for example you get cheaper ones that may not help as much as the more expensive ones) privates have an major advantage
User avatar #449 - allamericandude (12/31/2012) [-]
Side note: Wtf is up with the anons?
#493 to #449 - anon (12/31/2012) [-]
I don't know man, we really shouldn't be allowed to post.
It's really a shame.
User avatar #85 - SteyrAUG (12/30/2012) [-]
The right to a fair trial is guaranteed to us in the constitution of the united states of america.

The right to someone else paying for your $30,000 operation, whether life saving or not, is something that was made up by the entitlement generation that doesn't want to get off their ass and work.

User avatar #94 to #85 - fosforgasxiii (12/30/2012) [-]
What'up with all those ******** with "get your ass and work"? Do you really actually believe that all poor people are lazy and all the working people rich/middle class.
1. There are LOT of "working poor", people who work their ass off but can't reach middle class
2. Some people want to work but can't because they're disabled or just can't find a job.
3. I think $30.000 for an operation might even be enough to bankrupt a middleclass person, the US needs to do something about it's ridiculous high healthcare costs.

Sincerly, someone who isn't born in a comfortable, wealthy middle class family but more than grateful that my government helps poor working families by funding healthcare and education so I get the chance to make something from my life.
User avatar #116 to #94 - SteyrAUG (12/30/2012) [-]
A lot of working poor? Did you know there's also a lot of professional beggars out there? That somehow earn $40k a year doing nothing but sitting on a street corner? If they can't find a job, then why aren't there more jobs out there? Maybe it's because our government refuses to cut taxes on small businesses who employ most of the workforce. A $30,000 operation should be much much less than the home loan these people have. Hospitals aren't like the IRS, they understand that operations are expensive and will work with you so you can pay over time. A friend of mine got his GED instead of finishing high school. Somehow, he's managed to get himself a job that has healthcare benefits, has a stable pay situation that allows him to put money away, and has a home. He's done all of this without any handouts from the government, so it's possible. Oh, did I mention he did it by working his ass off?
User avatar #138 to #116 - fosforgasxiii (12/30/2012) [-]
Then he was lucky to get a high wage. My mother earns €1200 a month, then she has to pay €600 rent, you can't find a decent appartement with two sleeping rooms under that price here. Electricity and gas is also very expensive so we have less than €600 a month for two people and we actually can't complain that much, there are people which earn €800 or €900. At that moment you're happy that you don't have to take a loan to pay your doctor or your school.
User avatar #163 to #138 - SteyrAUG (12/30/2012) [-]
He's working at a truck stop earning $13.50 an hour. Not a high wage.
User avatar #191 to #163 - xxxdemongirl (12/30/2012) [-]
If he works full time, that's roughly $26,000 a year. If he's covered by his employer for healthcare, that's more than enough to live off of if you know how to manage your money and stick to it. What fosforgasxiii's mother makes is equivalent to around $19,000 a year, which is to the point where it's barely enough to make ends meet. Compared to a lot of people, $13.50 an hour is a really high wage, considering many people are making half of that.
User avatar #129 to #116 - NolanNasty (12/30/2012) [-]
He got lucky, not everyone is.
User avatar #156 to #116 - xxxdemongirl (12/30/2012) [-]
"If they can't find a job, then why aren't there more jobs out there?"
The reason they can't find a job is because there are hardly any jobs to find in the first place, and everyone that's unemployed are competing for the same jobs.
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User avatar #57 to #52 - madmaninside (12/30/2012) [-]
UK free, that's how much.
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