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#125 - comicsguy (12/19/2012) [-]
Please don't blame religion in general for the mistakes of one church, I'm not saying you are doing this, I just want to state this because of previous FJ experiences. This is not atheists vs religious people, this is against this church in particular
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#242 to #228 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
Irony, it was irony
#48 - LEDEL (12/18/2012) [-]
i feel like all of the atheists that have to announce publicly that they are atheist, or any other religion for that matter, are just doing it to be affiliated with said group, and miss the point entirely.

no one can know if there is or is not a God.

I feel like you are calling out all Christians to be like the ones at Westboro.

I'm not Christian, but I don't hate on them or anyone else for having faith in something other than a coffin for all of eternity.
#52 to #48 - klaedarkness (12/18/2012) [-]
you got thumbed down by atheists
#57 to #52 - LEDEL (12/18/2012) [-]
I don't know why it would be specifically atheists, I openly said i dislike anyone who has to announce what they believe in.

it's like if a vegetarian told you again and again and again that they were,in fact, a Vegetarian.
Nobody gives a **** , we all just need to Stfu.


Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and no one wants you to show it to them.
#513 - satexas ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
I think the main point of the story here is the fact that the son of the one of the biggest assholes "alive" right now (I'm not sure Fred Phelps is actually alive as much as he is the physical embodiment of being an asshole) can turn on his family as Nathan has done. I really don't think the fact that his son is an atheist has anything to do with the story. I always though the implication that one is a good person simply because they are an atheist is at best flawed logic and at worst the same hate so many atheists claim Christians represent. In short, the vast majority of Christians are good people, and making assumptions about all Christians based on a family cult is ridiculous. One's religion (or lack thereof) does not determine whether they are good person, their actions do.
User avatar #514 to #513 - noblexfenrir (12/19/2012) [-]
and we have the millionth poster to take this entire post in the wrong way.

You get no prize.
#530 to #514 - clockworkhearts (12/19/2012) [-]
Logic in this thread:
#523 to #513 - clockworkhearts (12/19/2012) [-]
OP meant it's unusual he's an atheist because most children inherit their parent's religion. It wasn't some obscure dig at christianity.
OP meant it's unusual he's an atheist because most children inherit their parent's religion. It wasn't some obscure dig at christianity.
#477 - minimoe (12/19/2012) [-]
''He is the sister to Shirley Phelps, and the son to Fred Phelps''
Makes perfect sense
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User avatar #627 - cocksmash (12/19/2012) [-]
He's the "nicest of men" because he believes similar things you believe? You don't even know the man, just what you read online. This post is pretty damn pointless.
User avatar #636 to #627 - yunablade (12/19/2012) [-]
Tell me how much you personally know the westboro head church members or anything else that happens in the news, then come again and post your opinion.
User avatar #637 to #636 - cocksmash (12/19/2012) [-]
That's my point. I'm saying he doesn't know them so how can he make the post? I never claimed to know the individuals.
User avatar #639 to #637 - yunablade (12/19/2012) [-]
You dont actually have to be personally involved in a situation to have an opinion in it.

I actually am equally impressed that the guy comes from a familly that is so well known for their hate on so many groups and individuals and turns out to be totally different and actually go against his own family because he thinks what they do is wrong.
User avatar #641 to #639 - cocksmash (12/19/2012) [-]
If we are going to have opinions on people we know nothing about then... It's a classic case of stifling ones individuality. There are many people who have had religion and other things forced down their throat and then they rebel against their oppressors or parent. Doesn't seem remarkable at all to me, it's a part of human nature.
#579 - thegreatgp (12/19/2012) [-]
Dont kill me with red thumbs for my ignorance
but
what's Westboro Baptist Church?
#582 to #579 - euxbat (12/19/2012) [-]
in short the 'god hates fags'/ 'thank god for aids' people
#583 to #582 - thegreatgp (12/19/2012) [-]
Oh   
man   
that's dumb
Oh
man
that's dumb
#584 to #583 - euxbat (12/19/2012) [-]
yes as are most forms of religious fanaticism
User avatar #585 to #584 - thegreatgp (12/19/2012) [-]
indeed
User avatar #587 to #579 - Gerda (12/19/2012) [-]
These are the people who cheer and sing when a soldier is buried and say that is God's punishment for our sins. They also say that those children who were shot in Newton deserved it, also because of our sins. They are a bunch of nutcases!!!
User avatar #588 to #587 - thegreatgp (12/19/2012) [-]
read below to know my opinion
#492 - iBlondie (12/19/2012) [-]
I feel like every time I see that church's name I go, "You see...That's why people hate Christians anymore..."
I feel like every time I see that church's name I go, "You see...That's why people hate Christians anymore..."
#499 to #492 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
That's retarded, hating all Christians because of one insanely radical group is like hating pizza because of one topping.
#512 to #499 - justtocomment ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
A loud minority will always do more than a silent majority. Because Westboro is out there making asses of themselves "FOR JESUS", it makes the rest of us Christians look terrible. It doesn't help that all you ever see online is pictures of Westboro. Think about how many times you've seen a picture of the Westboro Baptist ******** protesting a funeral, and it's captioned "Christian Logic" or something to that effect? How often do you see pictures of Christians actually being Christian circling the web? You don't, because it doesn't serve the internet's ego or id. If the content were truly distributed according to real world acts, then we'd see a few Westboro Baptists posts here and there, and we'd be flooded with pictures of good people doing good things and spreading the gospel in a reasonable and caring way, all-the-while being respectful of other people and their beliefs.
**** , I forgot I was on the internet for a second there, umm... Christians suck and it's so much smarter being Atheist!
#435 - mainstreamusername (12/19/2012) [-]
>At all the butthurt "WOW JUS CUZ HE ATHEST IT MAK IT GEWD?! 			******		 OP."   
You are 			*******		 idiots. It's because his family is so 			******		 up and preaches the false word of god that he was like "K, I'm gonna sponsor everything you hate." I agree witth OP, made the story better.
>At all the butthurt "WOW JUS CUZ HE ATHEST IT MAK IT GEWD?! ****** OP."
You are ******* idiots. It's because his family is so ****** up and preaches the false word of god that he was like "K, I'm gonna sponsor everything you hate." I agree witth OP, made the story better.
User avatar #438 to #435 - amirvaleriehurwitz (12/19/2012) [-]
Thank you! :)
#440 to #438 - mainstreamusername (12/19/2012) [-]
To me, the atheist bit was probably the "last straw" to his family. ******* amazing.
User avatar #443 to #440 - amirvaleriehurwitz (12/19/2012) [-]
Yeah, me too!
#389 - charasmaticjdub (12/19/2012) [-]
Family Reunion
Family Reunion
#542 - whomadewho (12/19/2012) [-]
Warning for anyone that is about ready to make a comment, there is a guy around named noblexfenir, and if you are not saying something along the lines of "I am an atheist, all religions are stupid, and I am smarter" he is going to attack you with something along the lines of...   
well " I am an atheist, all religions are stupid, and I am smarter"   
Not all atheists are like this, do not judge all atheist because of him.   
He is acting more butthurt then any hardcore religious person in the comments complaining.   
I just suggest ignoring, rise above me, because sure enough he is gonna thumb this down and go on a rant. be smarter than both he and I.
Warning for anyone that is about ready to make a comment, there is a guy around named noblexfenir, and if you are not saying something along the lines of "I am an atheist, all religions are stupid, and I am smarter" he is going to attack you with something along the lines of...
well " I am an atheist, all religions are stupid, and I am smarter"
Not all atheists are like this, do not judge all atheist because of him.
He is acting more butthurt then any hardcore religious person in the comments complaining.
I just suggest ignoring, rise above me, because sure enough he is gonna thumb this down and go on a rant. be smarter than both he and I.
User avatar #555 to #542 - noblexfenrir (12/19/2012) [-]
Whoa, hold on there sparky. First of all, nice job responding to what I said to you, oh wait you didn't. I corrected you and instead of admitting you took OP's description the wrong way or try to grasp what I was trying to explain to you, you just make a post saying I disagree with anyone who "doesn't believe what I believe".

What don't you understand about there being nothing to "believe" in this situation. OP has a specific meaning that many people weren't getting from his description because they took one specific line out of context from the rest of the explanation, just like you did.

I don't want people to say "I am an atheist, all religions are stupid, and I am smarter" I mean when it comes to you specifically, yeah I'm smarter. You've made that very clear. But with every other poster, I have been simply explaining to them where they faltered and have never said anything you just said I did.

So please, if you are going to try to call me "butthurt" or try to put me down in a comment, atleast do a good job, this was pathetic. I'm sorry I called you stupid and if it hurt your feelings but I really have no idea how else to explain the fact that you were wrong. Just own up to it and move on dude.
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User avatar #548 to #545 - whomadewho (12/19/2012) [-]
Dude, that is basically how you respond to everyone on here, "You're retarded"
He is not defending anyone, he is actually just going around like you except saying "You're an idiot"
OP is doing a fine job himself talking to people how what he said is taking out of context, and if you read what else he said, he realized how he worded wrong. That is whats gonna happen on this site, you make a spelling, grammar, or whatever error, people are going to comment on it. If he wants to defend OP, why not also attack the people bringing up "Sister" word he used. But nope, he is praising them.
User avatar #558 to #548 - noblexfenrir (12/19/2012) [-]
When the **** did I praise them? It's a simple spelling error while the other can give people the wrong message about the post. Priorities my dear fool, priorities.
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#552 to #549 - whomadewho (12/19/2012) [-]
woah woah woah, this site is filled with grammar nazis that would say different.   
Second,  there are 			*******		 dozens of bigotted idiots that generalize and demonize christians, there is an entire atheist channel based off it. The people in the comments aren't even attacking atheists, they are remarking upon how he worded it as if the guy being an atheist made it something special. Which it doesn't. Hell, most of the atheist I know would don't like the way some atheist act towards christian. They don't like them making their beliefs look bad by some guy going on and on about how he is a scientist and so smart because he is an atheist and 60% of scientist are atheist.   
Third, calling someone an idiot or retarded is not an opinion, it can be classified as either a true, false, or undetermined  statement. say I like this, or I don't like that is an opinion. I say "It is my opinion that fire is not hot," but guess what, I would be wrong.
woah woah woah, this site is filled with grammar nazis that would say different.
Second, there are ******* dozens of bigotted idiots that generalize and demonize christians, there is an entire atheist channel based off it. The people in the comments aren't even attacking atheists, they are remarking upon how he worded it as if the guy being an atheist made it something special. Which it doesn't. Hell, most of the atheist I know would don't like the way some atheist act towards christian. They don't like them making their beliefs look bad by some guy going on and on about how he is a scientist and so smart because he is an atheist and 60% of scientist are atheist.
Third, calling someone an idiot or retarded is not an opinion, it can be classified as either a true, false, or undetermined statement. say I like this, or I don't like that is an opinion. I say "It is my opinion that fire is not hot," but guess what, I would be wrong.
User avatar #557 to #552 - noblexfenrir (12/19/2012) [-]
"Second, there are ******* dozens of bigotted idiots that generalize and demonize christians, there is an entire atheist channel based off it."

I hardly see how on a channel made for atheists, making fun of religion makes us "bigoted". Everything else is made fun of on this site, I hardly see why religion is off limits, or why that has anything to do with this post.

" The people in the comments aren't even attacking atheists, they are remarking upon how he worded it as if the guy being an atheist made it something special. Which it doesn't."

Which isn't what OP meant to get across, something me and many others have been trying to get across to you.

" They don't like them making their beliefs look bad by some guy going on and on about how he is a scientist and so smart because he is an atheist and 60% of scientist are atheist."

It's actually 95% of the NAS that's atheist, but I digress. I rarely ever see any atheist say that he's smarter because he's atheist, that makes no sense. I do however see some atheists saying atheism is the more intelligent decision, and to be honest I can see where they come to that conclusion. Not really commenting too much on that, just I can see where they are coming from.

"Third, calling someone an idiot or retarded is not an opinion, it can be classified as either a true, false, or undetermined statement. say I like this, or I don't like that is an opinion. I say "It is my opinion that fire is not hot," but guess what, I would be wrong."

Well actually someone calling another person an idiot is subjective towards that specific persons definition of an idiot. Like for me an idiot is someone who keeps ignoring the facts being presented directly in front of them, something you have done many times on this post.
User avatar #564 to #542 - bec (12/19/2012) [-]
There are two types of people in the world. People (either religious or atheist) who think their beliefs make them superior to everyone else and will attack others, and people (either religious or atheist) who are happy with their own beliefs but also respect others. The former should be ignored.

it doesn't matter if you're Christian or Muslim or Atheist or Hindu, what matters is how you go about it.
User avatar #566 to #564 - whomadewho (12/19/2012) [-]
I am a little short on time and need to sleep. Was that on the offense against me?
User avatar #568 to #566 - bec (12/19/2012) [-]
No
User avatar #570 to #568 - whomadewho (12/19/2012) [-]
just checking
#456 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
I can honestly not blame the man for being atheist (regardless of any logic vs faith argument) when you grow up getting beat for what the father probably said was for God, which is the stupidest thing one can say, I would be an atheist too
#461 to #456 - savioz (12/19/2012) [-]
Well said! It annoys me that "and my favourite part of this whole story - he is an atheist.", and not that he helps children and lesbian/transgender/bisexual/gays.
Well said! It annoys me that "and my favourite part of this whole story - he is an atheist.", and not that he helps children and lesbian/transgender/bisexual/gays.
#253 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
It's funny, because people who support gays now are the same ones who would have condemned them and shunned them twenty years ago. I'm against gay rights, sorry, and here's why:
Why is something that was so socially unacceptable decades ago completely fine now? It's not about everyone having the right to love someone else, it's about the social media constantly bending the lines between what's socially acceptable and what isn't. Should we let people marry their eleven year old daughters? What if they love each other? Don't they have rights too? What about their pet goat? Don't they deserve rights too? In no way do I hate gays, I just don't support them.
#267 to #253 - redredemer (12/19/2012) [-]
I see your point but the thing is that peoples perspectives change with time and what is "socially acceptable" is always a state of mind, a perspective that is taught to us as we grow up. In the dark ages people were taught that being gay was wrong, but people have realized that love between the same sex is alright. But your other point about age or inter species relationships are still considered wrong by the world and when you get down to it, those things are different when your talking about what is wrong.
User avatar #260 to #253 - heartlessrobot (12/19/2012) [-]
Well, woman didn't have rights at one point, and neither did blacks. Why does the amount of time matter? The point is, they should have rights because we are moving forward as a people. The lines that don't matter are being erased, we're seeing how foolish it is to hinder someone for something so petty. And really? ******* eleven year old. They can barely make the right decision to not play in traffic, you expect them to know who is right for them to spend the rest of their life with? And a goat? It's a ******* goat, it knows how to **** other goats and how to eat grass, that would be like marrying a rock with legs and two holes, one for eating and the other for ******** .
#262 to #253 - demonictoasters (12/19/2012) [-]
Don't wear your ass, it is not a hat.
Don't wear your ass, it is not a hat.
User avatar #264 to #253 - nevrit (12/19/2012) [-]
I doubt you'll be back to respond, since you are an anon, but your logic makes next to no sense. By your logic anything a majority of people go by is instantly wrong. That is just as bad as following a majority blindly. Why not think for yourself and understand the situation instead of saying, well the crowd walks left so I walk right? A decade ago I hated gays because I was raised that being gay was wrong in every sense of the word, but you know what changed my mind? A few short years later I had a close friend come out to me. He told me he was gay and he had also never known my hatred for those like him. I sat down and I thought long and hard about why I hated gays, and through my own way NOT the media, I found that there is no reason whatsoever for my to hate them. That I find them to be people as well that should have equal rights. So instead of assuming that the whole world is following the media on this one, why not sit down and try, and I mean really use that lil thing in your head called a brain and try to understand why more and more people are for gay rights.
#225 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
why is being an atheist considered good?
i dont get it

i mean, shouldn't that be irrelevant? I think it's great that he tries to make the world better even though his bad childhood.
i dunno, just something that bothers me

whats the ******* difference between someone who beliefs in a god and someone who doesn't? both can be twats
User avatar #231 to #225 - ButtonFly (12/19/2012) [-]
I think OP is only pointing it out because this man comes from a severely religious family and he wanted to prove exactly how different Nathan was from the rest of his family.
#252 to #231 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
Would be nice if you're right.
#421 - kittynades (12/19/2012) [-]
no one ******* cares
#432 to #421 - marioauditore (12/19/2012) [-]
1915 people disagree with you.
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#316 to #296 - bennyandwills (12/19/2012) [-]
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#323 to #316 - shadowavion (12/19/2012) [-]
No big deal lol.
No big deal lol.
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#573 to #572 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
hahaha... **** you
#574 to #572 - anon (12/19/2012) [-]
Who the **** is Joel? is he a fag like you?
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