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#308 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
only in america,I don't fukin get you americans,everything is offensive over there, ****** everything,your society really sucks,things that are granted in other parts of the world seem special to you,
#300 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
Hey this reminds me of Belgium. The country where being Belgian is considered racist.
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User avatar #241 - nigeltheoutlaw (12/10/2012) [-]
I don't think many people get mad about the trees, they get more mad about things like the Nativity Scene, which explicitly promote the religion.
#116 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
All hail our great creator, the bringer of peace and justice, the one that makes everyone see the light.
Santa, may you live forever
#66 - ApolloXYZ (12/10/2012) [-]
so what..? be offended.. nothing happens to you.. "one day i saw a christmas tree, and was offended, and the next day i got leprosy!"

i'm offended when they saw boy bands for christ sake.!
#49 - datguypauls (12/10/2012) [-]
ok really, at least in America, it does shout that. but the whole thing about the girl being intolerant is true. he has a right to practice religion
what I think America dreams of promoting is no single one religion, but all religions fairly and equally. this means people of each religion (Christianity is a religion too) has the right to practice their practices (to a certain extent of course. no killing others or something like that)
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#56 to #53 - datguypauls (12/10/2012) [-]
i said within limits
so you're trying to say that people don't have a right to practice their religion? i'm not saying they should have that right, i'm just saying that, ideally, there's equality between religions
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#40 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
Further more the chrismas tree dosnt have any thing to do with the bible or religion. Its merely a tradition.
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User avatar #43 to #40 - musclemarinade (12/10/2012) [-]
Actually, Christmas used to be a pegan holiday until Christians made it their own.
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User avatar #30 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe (12/10/2012) [-]
>You guys actually believe the "War on Christmas" ********

Lol, turn off Fox News.
#13 - snoppkaka (12/10/2012) [-]
gonna go ahead and thumb this down. Not because I disagree with you, in fact I agree with the guy in the comic. But because it's obvious already, and it's not funny.
User avatar #138 - warrenzthehero (12/10/2012) [-]
What makes me angry is not when people are offended like so above, because that's somewhat understandable. Does it get out of hand? Yes. Does it makes sense? Some.

What makes me mad is the reverse of yon derpette, the Christians that get offended at the offense of Atheists and Jews and the like. The ones that think Christmas is under attack. Those idiots.
#124 - sniffalot (12/10/2012) [-]
Where the **** , and why the **** does anyone care about who celebrates Christmas or Hanukah or whatever the **** ?

This is taking it too far, pretentious douche bags..

(Pic related and found on this very front page)
User avatar #212 to #124 - teranin (12/10/2012) [-]
<~~~I'm the one who posted it
User avatar #250 to #212 - sniffalot (12/10/2012) [-]
And it was funny :3
User avatar #94 - cullenatorguy (12/10/2012) [-]
Well where is the tree? If it's in his house, **** the chick; if it's in a public office, **** OP.
#36 - comstockload (12/10/2012) [-]
I was born a Christian, became an atheist, and married a Muslim. I like Christmas and could care less whether people say &quot;Merry Christmas,&quot; &quot;Happy Holidays,&quot; or &quot;Happy Festivus.&quot;   
   
To all the Christians out there that think atheists are our kill religion: we're not. Also, please don't pull out straw-man arguments like this.   
   
To all my atheist brethren out there that are butt-hurt over private Christmas tree displays: get over yourselves. The Supreme Court ruled 20+ years ago that Christmas trees are not considered religious iconography. If you want something to focus your energies on, let's get rid of the term &quot;In God we trust&quot; from our money and Pledge of Allegiance.   
   
To my Muslim family and friends: Allahu Akbar!
I was born a Christian, became an atheist, and married a Muslim. I like Christmas and could care less whether people say "Merry Christmas," "Happy Holidays," or "Happy Festivus."

To all the Christians out there that think atheists are our kill religion: we're not. Also, please don't pull out straw-man arguments like this.

To all my atheist brethren out there that are butt-hurt over private Christmas tree displays: get over yourselves. The Supreme Court ruled 20+ years ago that Christmas trees are not considered religious iconography. If you want something to focus your energies on, let's get rid of the term "In God we trust" from our money and Pledge of Allegiance.

To my Muslim family and friends: Allahu Akbar!
#115 - pinacular (12/10/2012) [-]
The comic muddies the waters. It isn't about being offended by other peoples beliefs it's about equal representation. A Christmas tree in a person's house is one thing, but in public it's entirely another.

If any willing theists' religious symbols are denied in place of the Christmas tree then it constitutes religious inequality. Do you think that if your city was asked to put up [insert religion]'s symbols equally alongside Christian ones that that would fly?

The only way to have a Christmas tree in public and not constitute religious inequality is to either; be of a community that has a relevant total religious solidarity (and a government that isn't supposed to favor one religion over another, like the U.S. government) OR allow all other religions, that want their symbols shown, to be shown in public with equal standing to the Christmas tree.

A third option is to not show any religious symbols in public at all. But I'd assume that all religions would rather share space than be banned completely, even for the sake of equality.

It isn't about some silly bitch being offended at the public display of a different belief than her's, that couldn't be further from the truth. It's about equal representation, the act of being equal to all beliefs no matter how small the percent of the population that holds them.
User avatar #117 to #115 - akg **User deleted account** (12/10/2012) [-]
Except that it isn't just christian symbols, it's a part of our culture. Norway is one of the less religious societies, but everyone uses and relates to these things. It's a part of the western christmas celebration. I don't give a **** when the muslims have Ramadan as an example, because it's a part of their beliefs and culture. I respect them, and as we're in a country with freedom of religion and speech, they sure as hell should respect our traditions.

/rant
#121 to #117 - pinacular (12/10/2012) [-]
It doesn't matter that it's part of our culture, it's still tied to a religion and the fact it isn't shown along side other symbols means there's unequal favoritism going on.

Not that I'm granting the premise that the tree is part of every American's culture, I doubt that very much. The people whose cultures do include the tree don't do so for 100% the same reason, despite the secularization happening to include it with other beliefs it is still immediately tied to a single religion.
User avatar #136 to #121 - akg **User deleted account** (12/10/2012) [-]
What other symbols? The christmas tree wasn't originally a symbol of christianity, it was used in anciest egypt and china. It was originally jewish. But we have adopted it as a part of our culture, noone actually use it to scare away the devil anymore. It's a symbol of christmas, not christianity.

A lot of countries celebrated christmas before they were introduced to christianity. And so what if you consider it a christian holiday, are we to ban all religious celebrations because it might be offensive to others?
#164 to #136 - pinacular (12/10/2012) [-]
Do you really want me to go over every other religions symbol that could be used in place of the tree? Really?

Does it matter what it was originally used for? What matters is it's context to our society.

You don't think Christmas is explicitly tied to Christianity? You're going to have to explain that one to me. Also, just because Christmas can be celebrated by non-Christians doesn't mean it's not meant to be a religious celebration (what it means is that it's slowly becoming a secular celebration, every religious holiday does this over time). I have a Christian friend who will defend Christmas to the death over that single point.

Again, it isn't about offense it's about being fair to all religious beliefs. If you care about equality you should want other religions symbols represented alongside the Christmas tree. What should be done is a toning down of PUBLIC displays of Christmas decor so that other symbols can have their fair placing as well. No one should want the banning of Christmas, that's completely the wrong thing to do.
User avatar #192 to #164 - akg **User deleted account** (12/10/2012) [-]
What symbols do you want next to the christian ones? Other religions doesn't celebrate christmas.
#199 to #192 - pinacular (12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas isn't the only holiday in December.
User avatar #202 to #199 - akg **User deleted account** (12/10/2012) [-]
So what? We're talking about christmas here.
#326 to #202 - pinacular (12/10/2012) [-]
Is that really what you think I've been talking about?
User avatar #327 to #326 - akg **User deleted account** (12/10/2012) [-]
Then what the hell are you talking about? We've been talking about the christmas tree in all the posts so far, and I cant really see another holiday or religion related to that..
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