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User avatar #314 - galacticboner (12/10/2012) [-]
"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; (...) to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."
- The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Or you could just tell her to shut the **** up.
#310 - stickandmove (12/10/2012) [-]
It depends where the icon is, really. If it's in your home or on your lawn, if you have a religious bumper sticker on your car, if there's a Christian display at a Christian school, etc., then it's more than appropriate.

It's when courthouses, public schools, and other similar structures endorse the beliefs of a single religion we start to take offense.
User avatar #316 to #310 - ninjaspartan (12/10/2012) [-]
So, if the symbol of a unicorn showed up on a public playground, you would be offended and report it because you don't believe in unicorns? Are you offended by Disney's Hercules as well since it is based on polytheism? People need to learn the difference between being "offended" and being "irritated." If we're imposing with our religion, you have the right to ask us to stop, but saying we can't be public with our beliefs is what is really offensive.
#331 to #316 - stickandmove (12/10/2012) [-]
You're incredibly misguided.

I'm not offended by Disney's Hercules just as I'm not offended by Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ or The Fiddler on the Roof. Why in the world would you assume otherwise?

I'm not suggesting your beliefs remain private. I'm explaining that it's wrong for the settings I mentioned to support specific religious views and not others.
User avatar #307 - TarnRazor (12/10/2012) [-]
You wouldn't see somebody telling a Jew to put out the candles on their Menorah or to get rid of their yamaka. Why is it always an attack on Christians?
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User avatar #251 - breadstickez (12/10/2012) [-]
Wait is the tree in his house? If it's in his house I don't care if he has mutilated doll heads hanging from it, it's his choice. Even if its outside on his property, everyone has a right to express their religion. I'm not religious but if I want a god damn nativity scene I'll put up a god damn nativity scene. If the tree was on the front lawn and had a sign around it that was like "CONVERT OR YOUR FIRST BORN SHALL BE BURNED ON YOUR OWN MENORAH" then I see the issue, but something as simple as a tree is no ones god damn business.
#223 - bdowns (12/10/2012) [-]
**bdowns rolled a random image posted in comment #4 at I cannot cope with this laughter ** I have to say happy holidays at work
User avatar #172 - klick (12/10/2012) [-]
Fun Fact! Christmas isn't the only holiday that uses a pine tree to celebrate. In fact this tradition was first used by the pagans. But it is is the only religion to put a star on top.
#147 - einhetvin (12/10/2012) [-]
Well I think the point that people actually make is when Christmas or Christmas things are displayed or celebrated by or in public institutions. This is because the State is supposed to be secular and they do tend to celebrate Christmas and other things such as the pledge of allegiance, where you're supposed to say "Under God" or something (I'm not American) thats also imposing a religion on those kids when they don't believe in it. These people don't have a problem with the Christmas tree but with the State representing one religion as the norm. And since you cant represent all religions (or non-religions) equally throughout the country, the State shouldn't do this with just one, but with none. Imagine the US was an Atheist Country, and Christianity is now on the rise, so the invert or what is really going on, but the State would still claim to be secular, as they do today. If you were one of these Christians, wouldn't you be offended if the State preferred one specific religion or belief over the rest? And to have countless hints and celebratory symbols and speech about this religion in things where you and your kids seek a secular equality. Christians wouldn't like that very much. If Christians just put themselves in an Atheists shoes, and understand what they think, I think we would have a lot less Christians and a lot more Atheists.
#62 - trevorbelmont (12/10/2012) [-]
this is my Christmas Tree.

Merry Christmas
User avatar #87 to #62 - doodnotheface (12/10/2012) [-]
Looks like it's fallin' over
Merry Christmas
User avatar #89 to #87 - trevorbelmont (12/10/2012) [-]
oh well
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User avatar #38 - bounod (12/10/2012) [-]
Tree is a religious icon? I guess Santa Claus is also religious icon since some kids believe in it.

User avatar #45 to #38 - killthebilly (12/10/2012) [-]
thought for a moment you said "ALL HAIL SATAN!" at the bottom.. oh god i would have loved if you made that typo...
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User avatar #313 - ninjaspartan (12/10/2012) [-]
Someone please enlighten me as to why people keep saying that Christmas was a Pagan holiday. The tradition of receiving presents from Saint Nicholas once a year and celebrating Christ's birth originally belonged to ancient roman polytheists??? Wat?
#317 to #313 - figosound ONLINE (12/10/2012) [-]
Google "sun gods", and learn how "Christmas" is only the last name of a very ancient holyday :)
User avatar #321 to #317 - ninjaspartan (12/10/2012) [-]
So we're actually celebrating the birth of the Sun God?

And I still don't know where St. Nick comes in to all of this.
#319 to #313 - evigvinter (12/10/2012) [-]
the idea of a bearded man giving presents to good behaving people and punishing the bad derives from odin doing just that (only that he rode on sleipnir's back, not in a sleigh)
User avatar #220 - ixcarnifexxi (12/10/2012) [-]
The worst is wishing someone "Merry Christmas" cause if they don't celebrate it; you'll get **** . I mean, why take offence when someone wishes you a merry Christmas? "Here, wish you a good time on this one ******* day of the year." If a Jewish person wished me a happy Hanukkah, I wouldn't get pissed I'd simply say "I don't celebrate it, but thank you anyway". Why do people get so worked up if you wish them a ************************************* ?
User avatar #228 to #220 - kureizikitsune (12/10/2012) [-]
It is because those same stupid assholes do not understand the concept of wishing someone well simply for the sake of being nice. I personally do not celebrate Christmas because I am Shinto. However, if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, I wish them one right back. Why? Because, they were being nice. No reason I should not do the same.
User avatar #254 to #220 - breadstickez (12/10/2012) [-]
I hate that. Wish me a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Kwanzaa, or just a simple Happy Holidays. I will appreciate you going out of your way to say something nice to me. Because I celebrate Christmas I wish most people a Merry Christmas, unless I know otherwise. It doesn't matter if you don't practice the religion, its just a kind wish on your behalf.
User avatar #258 to #254 - ixcarnifexxi (12/10/2012) [-]
I work at Whole Foods (not sure if you're aware of it) but we are FORCED to wish people Happy Holidays. I mean, I live in Canada, so it seems expected to say Happy Holidays ( ************* for multi culturalism...) but if I wish someone a Merry Christmas, and I wish it to the wrong person; I can lose my job.
User avatar #259 to #258 - breadstickez (12/10/2012) [-]
That's completely ridiculous.
User avatar #211 - lazypaul (12/10/2012) [-]
Inb4 'hurr durr its not a christian symbol its a (insert old religion) symbol'. In this context it is.
#215 to #211 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas Trees: associated with Christmas, but not a religious symbol.

There is a difference, and it matters. Learn it.
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User avatar #63 - bec (12/10/2012) [-]
Is it just me or is the outrage over political correctness disproportionate to the problem? I very, very rarely come across people like the girl in the comic - but every single day (unless I turn off my computer) I see people saying "OMG society is WAY too politically correct!!!"
User avatar #37 - rel (12/10/2012) [-]
My father is Jewish and my mother calls herself a "recovering Catholic." I grew up as a Christian, technically - I used to go to church. I celebrate Christmas more for the idea of togetherness with family and giving to each other rather than the religious aspect.
As for religion, I'm apatheistic. It's very similar to agnostic/atheist, saying that "I don't know if there's a God," but it also says that "I don't care to know." I live my life without religion, and I base my morals without religious beliefs, which is something I've heard people say can't be done. Well, I'm doing it and I've been doing it for years.
Happy holidays, everyone.
#44 to #37 - musclemarinade (12/10/2012) [-]
If you were raised in even a somewhat religious family, your moral structure has been influenced by them (You might not directly base it on Religion, but you can't deny they still played a part the forming of your ideals).    
Anyways, here is a gif of a cat.
If you were raised in even a somewhat religious family, your moral structure has been influenced by them (You might not directly base it on Religion, but you can't deny they still played a part the forming of your ideals).

Anyways, here is a gif of a cat.
User avatar #60 to #44 - trevorbelmont (12/10/2012) [-]
that gif gave me FEELS.
User avatar #252 - xXCorpitoXx (12/10/2012) [-]
I find it kinda funny that Atheist will argue to the death that God isn't real
but will gladly Celebrate his son's birthday to get presents and ****
#276 to #252 - xmattx (12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas day was stolen from the pagans by the Christians. It was originally Saturnalia, a pagan festival. Even the act of decorating trees was taken from the pagans. Biblical scholars place Jesus' birth (assuming he even existed) sometime in the spring, so even you aren't celebrating it for Jesus' birthday, rather just following tradition as well.

Matthew 7:1 - "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." NIV
#301 to #276 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
It's pretty widely accepted that Jesus existed...the controversy comes from whether He was the messiah or not
#304 to #301 - xmattx (12/10/2012) [-]
this affects my point how?
#265 to #252 - whymewhy (12/10/2012) [-]
saying gimme free **** is hardly celebrating christs birth regardless of what day they want the free **** .
User avatar #137 - warrenzthehero (12/10/2012) [-]
Please please please don't think that all atheists are like yon derpette. I'm fine with your religion, just don't try to convert me. Every atheist I know of feels the same way.
I want to make this known.
#144 to #137 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
no, most atheists make it their job to shove anti religious hate propaganda down any spiritual persons throat, and also talk about the lack of existence of god, evidence of god, and just being all around cunt nuggets to everyone who has any sort of religious beliefs. most ahteists claim all they want is for religion to not get forced on them, and then turn around and preach that nobody should be religious and everyone needs to be an atheist, just like them.
#214 to #144 - soylentchartreuse (12/10/2012) [-]
I would like to make a clarification. An atheist is one who does no believe in any religion. An Antitheist is one who hates all religions and sees them as a cancer on society. However an Antitheist will call themselves an atheist simply because they see no difference. There are many types of atheist in the world. Gnostic, agnostic, implicit, explicit, broad, unfriendly, indifferent, etc. Each type has its own little quirks.
User avatar #269 to #144 - warrenzthehero (12/10/2012) [-]
No no no. You misunderstand, my dear, hateful/ed anon.
See, most Atheists do see Religion as an overall negative thing. However, we don't shove atheism down the throats of others. We educate them. We explain our belief system. Personally, I usually only explain to those who ask.
There are some who explain it... aggressively.
However, even those that don't actively go out to "destroy religion" seem to be attacking it, because of how sound and concise their arguments can be. You will always feel attacked when your ideas and beliefs are being explained away and every one of your arguments falls to superior reason.
#168 to #137 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
Nice attempt at a reasonable argument
User avatar #110 - cheesymondo (12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas trees are Christmas trees. Nothing Christian about them. Only thing Christian about this secular holiday is that fairy tale **** about a kid not born of a virgin (mistranslated) who was born in a stable at the same time as being born in a house who was visited by an unknown amount of magi or shepards who then went home and to Egypt at the same time.
User avatar #132 to #110 - cheesymondo (12/10/2012) [-]
That's right, tumb down facts (Y)
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