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User avatar #299 - mitchellking (12/10/2012) [-]
I wouldn't let the conversation get that far, i would probably just've said **** you and walked away
User avatar #253 - endface (12/10/2012) [-]
I am not a religious man, but I do not condemn religion. I accept it, even when I was a Christin youth. But I still celebrate x-mas because I believe it is a progressive social practice that is important. This belief includes any and all other holidays that bring people together.
User avatar #180 - slashtrey (12/10/2012) [-]
I need a gif of this...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ROTzn4L3M8
#246 to #180 - gallifreyan (12/10/2012) [-]
Here's one without text.
Here's one without text.
#248 to #180 - gallifreyan (12/10/2012) [-]
Here's one with words (I can alter it for you if you wish).
Here's one with words (I can alter it for you if you wish).
User avatar #275 to #248 - slashtrey (12/10/2012) [-]
thanks
User avatar #329 to #275 - gallifreyan (12/10/2012) [-]
Anytime!
User avatar #149 - stefanovic (12/10/2012) [-]
correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the tree a symbol for an old German religion?
User avatar #151 to #149 - lordlolland (12/10/2012) [-]
I always figured it was a symbol for "I figured that it would be a good idea to go into the woods, chop down at tree, place it in my living room and put all sorts of glass ornaments and lit candles on, and i do it only at Christmas so i can write it off as religiousness instead of being ******* nuts" or something like that.
User avatar #152 to #149 - churrundo (12/10/2012) [-]
i believe christians adopted it in order to appeal to more people, just like they combined native traditions in america to evangelize
User avatar #155 to #149 - anormalbrony (12/10/2012) [-]
i thought that pagaens used them to celebrate the winter solstice
User avatar #239 to #155 - stefanovic (12/10/2012) [-]
that's what I meant, couldn't find the right words
User avatar #338 to #239 - anormalbrony (12/11/2012) [-]
s'alright i understand
User avatar #165 to #149 - sheepysquirrel (12/10/2012) [-]
When I was young (I will give you the extremely short version) my German granfather told me the story of "Krismas" where a man named Kris Kringle/Nikolas brought wooden toys he made to kids in the village in the winter and they cut down evergreens and put them in their windows each year so Kris could see the toys he made and that they were appreciated.
User avatar #181 to #165 - amuro (12/10/2012) [-]
You are right, he is Saint Nicholas of Bari
User avatar #182 to #181 - sheepysquirrel (12/10/2012) [-]
He told me there is even a gravestone for him too and he lived somewhere like 1769-1830 or something.
User avatar #185 to #182 - amuro (12/10/2012) [-]
close enough http://www.casamassima.net/nicholas.html
User avatar #240 to #185 - stefanovic (12/10/2012) [-]
yeahh, I've been in Bari, I've seen it :D

in Belgium and the Netherlands, we call it "Sinterklaas" don't know if it exists anywhere else though, it's to celebrate a man who gave presents to the kids... we celebrate it as some kind of miniature christmas
User avatar #280 to #240 - amuro (12/10/2012) [-]
cool :D i didnt know that. TY for sharing, mate!
#103 - erikwarmblood (12/10/2012) [-]
mfw "christmas tree" is a christian symbol
mfw "christmas tree" is a christian symbol
User avatar #102 - jibb ONLINE (12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas trees have their origin in Germany and other Norse countries, where they actually sacrificed people by hanging them by the branches. They also made a wooden phallus-shaped figure which they dripped goat-blood on.

I am not even joking.
#112 to #102 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
No christmas trees originated in Germany in the 19th century as a part of the national romantic wave. They are a christian symbol, representing the tree of life. It's true that the germanic countries had trees where they hung people and animals as sacrifices during the iron age, but it does not have anything to do with the modern christmas tree.
#113 to #112 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
then explain a yule tree asshat
User avatar #46 - Skrufymunky (12/10/2012) [-]
while i was christmas shopping today, i wished someone a merry christmas, and the dude scoffed at me and said, "I'm an atheist" and then walked away. it's this kind of **** ....
User avatar #76 to #46 - fedor (12/10/2012) [-]
Who the hell does that?

You're trying to be nice to someone by saying Marry Christmas, and they are all like "Hurr I'm atheist I feel offended durrr"

I am an atheist myself, but I always wish everyone I know a happy christmas.
User avatar #285 - afterwards (12/10/2012) [-]
So if we should be tolerant to others beliefs shouldn't we allow them to use 'symbols' if they wish? We're not allowed to tell Islamics not to wear burqa's because we have to 'respect their beliefs' and yet they are allowed to tell us to take down Christmas trees?
Yes I know its a pagen holiday but its still hypocrisy at its finest.
#229 - Forfunaccount (12/10/2012) [-]
......So then she's offended by his religion?
#267 to #229 - whymewhy (12/10/2012) [-]
no, what he is saying is that she doesn't find the ideals of his religion offensive. what she finds offensive is that he doesn't have the same religious ideals. this is how it is with most folks who practice hate on those who don't share religious beliefs. chances are if you were to ask someone who is against any religion pick one why they don't like that religion the answer you will get most of the time is just a simply because they are wrong.
#143 - TitsYo (12/10/2012) [-]
is what he should have said, he thought hours later.
User avatar #114 - angelmaycry (12/10/2012) [-]
Beliver or not, Xmas is Xmas... It's not about the faith, but about the message of peace and joy...Like the "pagan's" celebrations that exisisted before Xmas...
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#257 - kotos (12/10/2012) [-]
I'm offended that your offended a'boot' being offended!
#262 to #257 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
I'm pretty sure this is shopped. I know by the pixels and the fact that canadians don't get angry, at least not without apologizing afterwards
#263 to #257 - exxo (12/10/2012) [-]
off'oonded *
User avatar #251 - breadstickez (12/10/2012) [-]
Wait is the tree in his house? If it's in his house I don't care if he has mutilated doll heads hanging from it, it's his choice. Even if its outside on his property, everyone has a right to express their religion. I'm not religious but if I want a god damn nativity scene I'll put up a god damn nativity scene. If the tree was on the front lawn and had a sign around it that was like "CONVERT OR YOUR FIRST BORN SHALL BE BURNED ON YOUR OWN MENORAH" then I see the issue, but something as simple as a tree is no ones god damn business.
#147 - einhetvin (12/10/2012) [-]
Well I think the point that people actually make is when Christmas or Christmas things are displayed or celebrated by or in public institutions. This is because the State is supposed to be secular and they do tend to celebrate Christmas and other things such as the pledge of allegiance, where you're supposed to say "Under God" or something (I'm not American) thats also imposing a religion on those kids when they don't believe in it. These people don't have a problem with the Christmas tree but with the State representing one religion as the norm. And since you cant represent all religions (or non-religions) equally throughout the country, the State shouldn't do this with just one, but with none. Imagine the US was an Atheist Country, and Christianity is now on the rise, so the invert or what is really going on, but the State would still claim to be secular, as they do today. If you were one of these Christians, wouldn't you be offended if the State preferred one specific religion or belief over the rest? And to have countless hints and celebratory symbols and speech about this religion in things where you and your kids seek a secular equality. Christians wouldn't like that very much. If Christians just put themselves in an Atheists shoes, and understand what they think, I think we would have a lot less Christians and a lot more Atheists.
User avatar #156 - bananarchy (12/10/2012) [-]
1. Not only Christians celebrate Christmas
2. Christmas isn't even a Christian holiday
User avatar #198 to #156 - octaviano (12/10/2012) [-]
I agree on both.
I mean, seriously, everybody knows that the current christmas is officially a historical christian event, the birth of jesus, but in reality, it's Coca Cola's marketing sheme.
And it works. I friggn love the winter-cocacola-truck-tours.
#218 to #198 - bigmanblue (12/10/2012) [-]
actualy the current christmas isnt even related to jesus birth
all evidence suggests jesus was born some time in the summer but his birth was moved to christmas because there was alkready a pagan holiday then and when your changing the religion of a nation/people its a lot easier to just tell every1 the name has changed rather then the entire holiday schedual
#171 to #156 - comicsguy (12/10/2012) [-]
I don't know what you celebrate on christmas, but I celebrate the birth of Jesus (not trying to start a flame war ._.)
User avatar #173 to #171 - bananarchy (12/10/2012) [-]
I celebrate Christmas on Christmas. I'm an Atheist.
#335 to #173 - comicsguy (12/11/2012) [-]
Then we have different definitions of Christmas
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User avatar #161 to #158 - bananarchy (12/10/2012) [-]
No it's not, it was celebrated by pagans years before the supposed birth of Christ and was merely adopted by Christians
User avatar #163 to #161 - rototornjik (12/10/2012) [-]
it was celebrated, but the reason and way of celebrating were different.
christians only took the date.
#169 to #161 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
and by the vikings in scandinavia who called it "Jul", which Christmas is still called in Denmark
#11 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
...A Christmas tree isn't a religious symbol... It is a tradition traced back to Victorian England....
User avatar #12 to #11 - Ryukenblaze (12/10/2012) [-]
medieval germany
User avatar #252 - xXCorpitoXx (12/10/2012) [-]
I find it kinda funny that Atheist will argue to the death that God isn't real
but will gladly Celebrate his son's birthday to get presents and ****
#276 to #252 - xmattx (12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas day was stolen from the pagans by the Christians. It was originally Saturnalia, a pagan festival. Even the act of decorating trees was taken from the pagans. Biblical scholars place Jesus' birth (assuming he even existed) sometime in the spring, so even you aren't celebrating it for Jesus' birthday, rather just following tradition as well.

Matthew 7:1 - "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." NIV
#301 to #276 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
It's pretty widely accepted that Jesus existed...the controversy comes from whether He was the messiah or not
#304 to #301 - xmattx (12/10/2012) [-]
this affects my point how?
#265 to #252 - whymewhy (12/10/2012) [-]
saying gimme free **** is hardly celebrating christs birth regardless of what day they want the free **** .
User avatar #137 - warrenzthehero (12/10/2012) [-]
Please please please don't think that all atheists are like yon derpette. I'm fine with your religion, just don't try to convert me. Every atheist I know of feels the same way.
I want to make this known.
#144 to #137 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
no, most atheists make it their job to shove anti religious hate propaganda down any spiritual persons throat, and also talk about the lack of existence of god, evidence of god, and just being all around cunt nuggets to everyone who has any sort of religious beliefs. most ahteists claim all they want is for religion to not get forced on them, and then turn around and preach that nobody should be religious and everyone needs to be an atheist, just like them.
#214 to #144 - soylentchartreuse (12/10/2012) [-]
I would like to make a clarification. An atheist is one who does no believe in any religion. An Antitheist is one who hates all religions and sees them as a cancer on society. However an Antitheist will call themselves an atheist simply because they see no difference. There are many types of atheist in the world. Gnostic, agnostic, implicit, explicit, broad, unfriendly, indifferent, etc. Each type has its own little quirks.
User avatar #269 to #144 - warrenzthehero (12/10/2012) [-]
No no no. You misunderstand, my dear, hateful/ed anon.
See, most Atheists do see Religion as an overall negative thing. However, we don't shove atheism down the throats of others. We educate them. We explain our belief system. Personally, I usually only explain to those who ask.
There are some who explain it... aggressively.
However, even those that don't actively go out to "destroy religion" seem to be attacking it, because of how sound and concise their arguments can be. You will always feel attacked when your ideas and beliefs are being explained away and every one of your arguments falls to superior reason.
#168 to #137 - anon (12/10/2012) [-]
Nice attempt at a reasonable argument
#19 - paelaer (12/10/2012) [-]
Well, I guess that makes me an asshole, because Christmas offends me. Not the religious part, because that would make me even more of an asshole than I am. I get offended by Christmas whenever I hear the music or see the decorations in stores, because Christianity has allowed the day that supposedly commemorates the day of their god's birth to become a celebration of the wonderful system of economy known as capitalism. So no longer is it Christmas, it's more like Capitalistmas, so **** you, I'm observing Saturnalia.

And also, the Christmas tree originated in Germany as a Pagan tradition. Also, Santa Claus came from the Netherlands, and the image we have of him today is purely for money. Boom. Red thumbs ahoy.
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#32 to #19 - Ruspanic (12/10/2012) [-]
Yes. It does make you an asshole.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a profit by selling people things they want.
User avatar #22 to #19 - unknownmercury ONLINE (12/10/2012) [-]
So do you get offended by Valentine's, Halloween, Fourth of July, and Thanksgiving, too?
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