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#266 - nemecyst
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(12/10/2012) [-]
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I prefer Saturnalia to Christmas.

I mean its a week of drunken orgies, whats not to love?
#19 - paelaer
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Well, I guess that makes me an asshole, because Christmas offends me. Not the religious part, because that would make me even more of an asshole than I am. I get offended by Christmas whenever I hear the music or see the decorations in stores, because Christianity has allowed the day that supposedly commemorates the day of their god's birth to become a celebration of the wonderful system of economy known as capitalism. So no longer is it Christmas, it's more like Capitalistmas, so **** you, I'm observing Saturnalia.

And also, the Christmas tree originated in Germany as a Pagan tradition. Also, Santa Claus came from the Netherlands, and the image we have of him today is purely for money. Boom. Red thumbs ahoy.
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#32 to #19 - Ruspanic
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(12/10/2012) [-]
Yes. It does make you an asshole.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a profit by selling people things they want.
#22 to #19 - unknownmercury
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(12/10/2012) [-]
So do you get offended by Valentine's, Halloween, Fourth of July, and Thanksgiving, too?
#299 - mitchellking
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(12/10/2012) [-]
I wouldn't let the conversation get that far, i would probably just've said **** you and walked away
#257 - kotos
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(12/10/2012) [-]
I'm offended that your offended a'boot' being offended!
#262 to #257 - anon
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(12/10/2012) [-]
I'm pretty sure this is shopped. I know by the pixels and the fact that canadians don't get angry, at least not without apologizing afterwards
#268 to #262 - iamthou
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#263 to #257 - exxo
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off'oonded *
#253 - endface
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I am not a religious man, but I do not condemn religion. I accept it, even when I was a Christin youth. But I still celebrate x-mas because I believe it is a progressive social practice that is important. This belief includes any and all other holidays that bring people together.
#180 - slashtrey
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(12/10/2012) [-]
I need a gif of this...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ROTzn4L3M8
#246 to #180 - gallifreyan
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(12/10/2012) [-]
Here's one without text.
Here's one without text.
#248 to #180 - gallifreyan
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(12/10/2012) [-]
Here's one with words (I can alter it for you if you wish).
Here's one with words (I can alter it for you if you wish).
#275 to #248 - slashtrey
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(12/10/2012) [-]
thanks
#329 to #275 - gallifreyan
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(12/10/2012) [-]
Anytime!
#149 - stefanovic
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correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the tree a symbol for an old German religion?
#151 to #149 - lordlolland
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I always figured it was a symbol for "I figured that it would be a good idea to go into the woods, chop down at tree, place it in my living room and put all sorts of glass ornaments and lit candles on, and i do it only at Christmas so i can write it off as religiousness instead of being ******* nuts" or something like that.
#152 to #149 - churrundo
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(12/10/2012) [-]
i believe christians adopted it in order to appeal to more people, just like they combined native traditions in america to evangelize
#155 to #149 - anormalbrony
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(12/10/2012) [-]
i thought that pagaens used them to celebrate the winter solstice
#239 to #155 - stefanovic
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(12/10/2012) [-]
that's what I meant, couldn't find the right words
#338 to #239 - anormalbrony
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(12/11/2012) [-]
s'alright i understand
#165 to #149 - sheepysquirrel
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(12/10/2012) [-]
When I was young (I will give you the extremely short version) my German granfather told me the story of "Krismas" where a man named Kris Kringle/Nikolas brought wooden toys he made to kids in the village in the winter and they cut down evergreens and put them in their windows each year so Kris could see the toys he made and that they were appreciated.
#181 to #165 - amuro
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(12/10/2012) [-]
You are right, he is Saint Nicholas of Bari
#182 to #181 - sheepysquirrel
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He told me there is even a gravestone for him too and he lived somewhere like 1769-1830 or something.
#185 to #182 - amuro
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(12/10/2012) [-]
close enough http://www.casamassima.net/nicholas.html
#240 to #185 - stefanovic
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yeahh, I've been in Bari, I've seen it :D

in Belgium and the Netherlands, we call it "Sinterklaas" don't know if it exists anywhere else though, it's to celebrate a man who gave presents to the kids... we celebrate it as some kind of miniature christmas
#280 to #240 - amuro
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(12/10/2012) [-]
cool :D i didnt know that. TY for sharing, mate!
#103 - erikwarmblood
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(12/10/2012) [-]
mfw "christmas tree" is a christian symbol
mfw "christmas tree" is a christian symbol
#102 - jibb
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(12/10/2012) [-]
Christmas trees have their origin in Germany and other Norse countries, where they actually sacrificed people by hanging them by the branches. They also made a wooden phallus-shaped figure which they dripped goat-blood on.

I am not even joking.
#112 to #102 - anon
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No christmas trees originated in Germany in the 19th century as a part of the national romantic wave. They are a christian symbol, representing the tree of life. It's true that the germanic countries had trees where they hung people and animals as sacrifices during the iron age, but it does not have anything to do with the modern christmas tree.
#113 to #112 - anon
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then explain a yule tree asshat
#46 - Skrufymunky
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while i was christmas shopping today, i wished someone a merry christmas, and the dude scoffed at me and said, "I'm an atheist" and then walked away. it's this kind of ****....
#76 to #46 - fedor
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Who the hell does that?

You're trying to be nice to someone by saying Marry Christmas, and they are all like "Hurr I'm atheist I feel offended durrr"

I am an atheist myself, but I always wish everyone I know a happy christmas.
#11 - anon
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(12/10/2012) [-]
...A Christmas tree isn't a religious symbol... It is a tradition traced back to Victorian England....
#12 to #11 - Ryukenblaze
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medieval germany
#285 - afterwards
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(12/10/2012) [-]
So if we should be tolerant to others beliefs shouldn't we allow them to use 'symbols' if they wish? We're not allowed to tell Islamics not to wear burqa's because we have to 'respect their beliefs' and yet they are allowed to tell us to take down Christmas trees?
Yes I know its a pagen holiday but its still hypocrisy at its finest.
#229 - Forfunaccount
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(12/10/2012) [-]
......So then she's offended by his religion?
#267 to #229 - whymewhy
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(12/10/2012) [-]
no, what he is saying is that she doesn't find the ideals of his religion offensive. what she finds offensive is that he doesn't have the same religious ideals. this is how it is with most folks who practice hate on those who don't share religious beliefs. chances are if you were to ask someone who is against any religion pick one why they don't like that religion the answer you will get most of the time is just a simply because they are wrong.
#156 - bananarchy
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(12/10/2012) [-]
1. Not only Christians celebrate Christmas
2. Christmas isn't even a Christian holiday
#198 to #156 - octaviano
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I agree on both.
I mean, seriously, everybody knows that the current christmas is officially a historical christian event, the birth of jesus, but in reality, it's Coca Cola's marketing sheme.
And it works. I friggn love the winter-cocacola-truck-tours.
#218 to #198 - bigmanblue
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actualy the current christmas isnt even related to jesus birth
all evidence suggests jesus was born some time in the summer but his birth was moved to christmas because there was alkready a pagan holiday then and when your changing the religion of a nation/people its a lot easier to just tell every1 the name has changed rather then the entire holiday schedual
#171 to #156 - comicsguy
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I don't know what you celebrate on christmas, but I celebrate the birth of Jesus (not trying to start a flame war ._.)
#173 to #171 - bananarchy
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I celebrate Christmas on Christmas. I'm an Atheist.
#335 to #173 - comicsguy
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Then we have different definitions of Christmas
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#161 to #158 - bananarchy
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No it's not, it was celebrated by pagans years before the supposed birth of Christ and was merely adopted by Christians
#163 to #161 - rototornjik
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it was celebrated, but the reason and way of celebrating were different.
christians only took the date.
#169 to #161 - anon
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and by the vikings in scandinavia who called it "Jul", which Christmas is still called in Denmark
#143 - TitsYo
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is what he should have said, he thought hours later.
#114 - angelmaycry
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(12/10/2012) [-]
Beliver or not, Xmas is Xmas... It's not about the faith, but about the message of peace and joy...Like the "pagan's" celebrations that exisisted before Xmas...
#147 - einhetvin
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Well I think the point that people actually make is when Christmas or Christmas things are displayed or celebrated by or in public institutions. This is because the State is supposed to be secular and they do tend to celebrate Christmas and other things such as the pledge of allegiance, where you're supposed to say "Under God" or something (I'm not American) thats also imposing a religion on those kids when they don't believe in it. These people don't have a problem with the Christmas tree but with the State representing one religion as the norm. And since you cant represent all religions (or non-religions) equally throughout the country, the State shouldn't do this with just one, but with none. Imagine the US was an Atheist Country, and Christianity is now on the rise, so the invert or what is really going on, but the State would still claim to be secular, as they do today. If you were one of these Christians, wouldn't you be offended if the State preferred one specific religion or belief over the rest? And to have countless hints and celebratory symbols and speech about this religion in things where you and your kids seek a secular equality. Christians wouldn't like that very much. If Christians just put themselves in an Atheists shoes, and understand what they think, I think we would have a lot less Christians and a lot more Atheists.
#75 - eyeballfrog
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A truly inspired treatise on the impact of religious symbolism, OP, but you seem to have forgotten something important.
A truly inspired treatise on the impact of religious symbolism, OP, but you seem to have forgotten something important.
#65 - Tyranitar ONLINE
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Ironic that America, a country founded for the purpose of religious freedom, has some of the most intolerant people on the planet. I'm not an openly religious person, but if I choose to celebrate Christmas, put up Christmas decorations, say Merry Christmas to people, or say something about God or Jesus and the Cosby Kids in public, I feel I shouldn't have to be stopped because a Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. or even an Atheist, feels offended when they hear about beliefs besides their own.
#67 to #65 - Tyranitar ONLINE
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While I'm on the subject, do Atheists getting offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays" since they don't really have any holidays in December? (besides the consumerism version of Christmas)
#96 to #67 - cullenatorguy
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Nope, I'm atheist and I say "Merry Christmas" to people. It's the Christmas season, I say what's appropriate to the season.
#72 to #67 - freddyhollensen
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I've already posted somewhat about this, but as I said, in Scandinavia and probably most of Europe, Christmas is a secular tradition, saying happy holidays is appropriate.

I can't help you on america though, I want to say fellow atheists are annoying when butthurt, but then I remember 41% of the american population believe the earth is 6.000 years old.

I don't know... I'd just wish people would find reason.
#37 - rel
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(12/10/2012) [-]
My father is Jewish and my mother calls herself a "recovering Catholic." I grew up as a Christian, technically - I used to go to church. I celebrate Christmas more for the idea of togetherness with family and giving to each other rather than the religious aspect.
As for religion, I'm apatheistic. It's very similar to agnostic/atheist, saying that "I don't know if there's a God," but it also says that "I don't care to know." I live my life without religion, and I base my morals without religious beliefs, which is something I've heard people say can't be done. Well, I'm doing it and I've been doing it for years.
Happy holidays, everyone.
#44 to #37 - musclemarinade
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(12/10/2012) [-]
If you were raised in even a somewhat religious family, your moral structure has been influenced by them (You might not directly base it on Religion, but you can't deny they still played a part the forming of your ideals).    
   
Anyways, here is a gif of a cat.
If you were raised in even a somewhat religious family, your moral structure has been influenced by them (You might not directly base it on Religion, but you can't deny they still played a part the forming of your ideals).

Anyways, here is a gif of a cat.
#60 to #44 - trevorbelmont
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(12/10/2012) [-]
that gif gave me FEELS.