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#396 - sheperdofthestars (11/26/2012) [-]
Okay Christianfags, how about this one:   
   
If everything is part of God's plan, then so are murderers, rapists and terrorists. Meaning if you really believe all things are God's will, you can't be mad about any crime that is committed EVER.   
   
Not trying to start a 			*********		, would honestly like to see what your opinions are on this. Not Atheist BTW.   
   
MFW the entire comments section.
Okay Christianfags, how about this one:

If everything is part of God's plan, then so are murderers, rapists and terrorists. Meaning if you really believe all things are God's will, you can't be mad about any crime that is committed EVER.

Not trying to start a ********* , would honestly like to see what your opinions are on this. Not Atheist BTW.

MFW the entire comments section.
#401 to #396 - anon (11/26/2012) [-]
Christians believe humans had free will given to them by god
#408 to #401 - anon (11/26/2012) [-]
that believe implies it may or may not be so that why i believed in santa i didnt know better and christians say i believe god is real not i know he is
#378 - albita (11/26/2012) [-]
I'm an atheist and I have my own moral codes, I consider myself a good person, I'm good because I want and I'm not good just because I will be punished at the end of life.    
Anyway, I laughed a lot with this post.
I'm an atheist and I have my own moral codes, I consider myself a good person, I'm good because I want and I'm not good just because I will be punished at the end of life.
Anyway, I laughed a lot with this post.
#395 to #378 - anon (11/26/2012) [-]
And like, you go to jail and ******* rot in there and you don't enjoy life. So basically beign an atheist= A demon that kills people and doesn't give a **** about his life.
User avatar #405 to #395 - albita (11/26/2012) [-]
I just think we would live better without killing random people, I don't want to get killed, and I guess you don't want to get killed either. Also, who am I to end with the life of someone? I should do it just for fun? That's just stupid... Don't do something you don't want people to do to you, I think it's something logical, I don't know...
User avatar #368 - sanctium (11/26/2012) [-]
Instead of writing an elaborate rant about how much I hate these kind of people, I'll just go ahead and say that people who think like this should get ****** with a rake.
#339 - phonerstonerboner (11/26/2012) [-]
I'm Atheist, but instead of acting butthurt like some of my fellow atheists, I'm gonna see as the joke it is and laugh.
#170 - tsaotermaster (11/26/2012) [-]
**tsaotermaster rolled a random image posted in comment #157 at The Bends ** HFW
#61 - lazyvoltage (11/26/2012) [-]
Because there still is the concept of morality. also the cops
#62 to #61 - fearlessdeeds (11/26/2012) [-]
Well... not if you go out in a blaze of glory.

Oh wait... religion already has that covered.
User avatar #30 - pfccross (11/26/2012) [-]
because you will get arrested and spend the rest of your life in prison. And if you believe that this life is all you have, then you aren't going to throw it away like that.
#9 - phanact (11/25/2012) [-]
That doesn't mean he doesn't have morals

Getting on the topic of religion:

I don't know what I believe in. I have this thing where I can't believe in anything that I can't see/feel. I don't feel a real need to have religion in my life, but that's just my opinion.

I don't want to say I'm athiest for multiple reasons. First, athiests are always bashed and what not and they give themselves a horrible reputation, and its generally assumed that athiests are completely against anything god related, which I'm not.

I don't want to consider myself agnostic because that would infer that I believe there is some sort of higher power that can't be explained. I also don't believe in that.

The only thing I believe in is the truth. What I can prove.

I don't want to believe in any relgion because I'm not educated enough on any religion or lack thereof to make an uniformed decsision, so I just don't.

I hope that makes sense
#214 - tetragramozoid (11/26/2012) [-]
In case anyone wants it,
#287 to #214 - maxbeejax (11/26/2012) [-]
Thanks :D
Thanks :D
User avatar #129 - Lintutu (11/26/2012) [-]
Do you REALLY need religion to know what's right and wrong?
User avatar #135 to #129 - thepandaking (11/26/2012) [-]
of course not, but that's kind of the undertone of the comic I think.
User avatar #98 - watzmynizurz (11/26/2012) [-]
KILLING IS BAD. THERE WE GO. FJ's OPINION IN A NUTSHELL.
User avatar #87 - rhiaanor ONLINE (11/26/2012) [-]
All these people in the comments section are butthurt....

IT'S A ******* JOKE PEOPLE
#86 - ragged (11/26/2012) [-]
WARNING   
   
Grumpy atheists below talking about morals and such.    
   
Cute .gif for your time.
WARNING

Grumpy atheists below talking about morals and such.

Cute .gif for your time.
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#201 - zangonest (11/26/2012) [-]
pls i do dis evry dey
pls i do dis evry dey
#235 to #201 - godofcodes (11/26/2012) [-]
pls
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#159 to #150 - anon (11/26/2012) [-]
ever heard of sarcasm bro?
#197 to #159 - anon (11/26/2012) [-]
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....i got that from somewhere, found a good place to use it. k pl0x thx bye.
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User avatar #107 - deathleprechaun ONLINE (11/26/2012) [-]
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved.
#244 - snaresinger (11/26/2012) [-]
I have the same thought all the time. There is no objective good or evil. I think, 'why don't I just go kill people and **** bitches?'

Then I realize that those things are only subjectively fun fantasies, which come with subjectively terrible punishments. And no matter how universally meaningless a punishment may be, it still sucks, on a human level, to get ********** in prison. So I guess I'll just take my shallow, subjective fun like a good member of society (and maybe **** bitches whenever I can).
#254 to #244 - justtocomment (11/26/2012) [-]
You, sir, just summed up why Philosophy is irrelevant outside of philosophic conversation.
User avatar #255 to #254 - snaresinger (11/26/2012) [-]
I know. I became so obsessed with studying philosophical concepts before finally realizing, "I can argue that there is no such thing as pain all I want, it still hurts like a bitch to get punched in the nose." Living objectively = highly enlightened, but not at all practical.
User avatar #257 to #244 - amuter ONLINE (11/26/2012) [-]
I just care about life, simple as that...
User avatar #103 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
I like religion for one reason. Guidelines.

Some of the things certain religions suggest are good ideas (ex: be good to thy neighbor)

Other things are crazy (Do I need an example?)

The idea that the only reason I have my character as a human being include morality is due to religion is pure stupidity though.
#106 to #103 - anon (11/26/2012) [-]
The thing with the 10 comandments is, they're just basic morales.
Why do we need these writen down?
Don't ******* kill people
don't ******* steal.

Atheists can understand this stuff without some book.
The 10 commandments should just be one thing
"Don't be a cunt"
If you can do that then you're a good person.
User avatar #112 to #106 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
Well I won't go as far as to say everyone can understand it without it being written down hell there will always be assholes. But yeah that was my point.
User avatar #110 to #106 - undeadwill (11/26/2012) [-]
actually its don't murder someone. Killing is different. owo
User avatar #115 to #110 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
That's debated there aren't two words in the original language kill/muder were one word. It's impossible to say one way or another.

User avatar #117 to #115 - undeadwill (11/26/2012) [-]
No the passage meant don't murder your fellow man but made an excuse for war. Mistranslation.
User avatar #120 to #117 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
You can't definitively suggest what any passage in the Bible means. Do you have any idea how many times it's been translated?

You can attempt to pull from context but you cannot make a guarantee.
User avatar #122 to #120 - undeadwill (11/26/2012) [-]
Just saying that there is another translation as a fun fact.
User avatar #124 to #122 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
That's my point though. Every translation stems from the first version. That first version did not have two words with different meanings for kill. So the translations had to improvise. You now have the issue that someone somewhere who may be biased has altered scripture to what they believe is correct.

Every scripture from that point forward is tainted.
User avatar #127 to #124 - undeadwill (11/26/2012) [-]
yup.
User avatar #125 to #124 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
Edit: I meant every translation from that point forward*
User avatar #142 to #103 - noblexfenrir (11/26/2012) [-]
But religion comes with baggage (ignorance, bad morals, false history, etc etc)

Morality through ethical evolution is the best form and is where humans draw their ethics from innately.
User avatar #147 to #142 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
This has been stated multiple times...

I'll repeat...

1. I already said it comes with crazy **** .
2. I'm not suggesting we need religion. I'm simply pointing out it isn't a "black and white" argument.
User avatar #155 to #147 - noblexfenrir (11/26/2012) [-]
I didn't read the rest of your replies so I didn't see it stated before.

But it is black and white if certain things are required. If would be gray if the morals and regulations asked by religions was malleable, however a large portion of religions have the morals coming from some omniscient figure. So if they follow this religion they are accepting ignorance by believing in this figure, and then the idea this figure exists makes the regulations given unquestionable.

So the very base religions (that entail the need of a god) already have 2 automatic negative: Ignorance and views that cannot adapt to changing views in human society.

Therefor morally at a base level it is negative.
User avatar #157 to #155 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
Seriously? No everything about religion isn't black or white.

If you're talking about the context of "is there a god" yes you can argue that as black and white. But you can't argue the context of whether or not religion is good or bad simply off of that. Santa isn't real does that mean telling a kid to be good for christmas is bad?
User avatar #165 to #157 - noblexfenrir (11/26/2012) [-]
I never said everything about religion is black and white, this particular subject however has black and white elements.

Santa isn't being placed as an explanation for undiscovered scientific explanations, and it's for children, so yes it relates situationally but not in practice.

I'm not saying religion is bad (I do think it is but I'm not stating that for this point), I'm saying the requirements for deriving your morality through religion, is negative.
User avatar #111 to #103 - hydraetis ONLINE (11/26/2012) [-]
but then religion starts doing things like sapping endless money from the populations, protecting its own members when they break the law of both society and their religion, start discriminating heavily against anyone who does not conform to their beliefs or is significantly different, goes on massive killing rampages in the name of their "benevolent and loving" god, the list goes on.

religion is a poison to society. the cases where it helps people are VASTLY outnumbered by the cases where it hinders.
User avatar #113 to #111 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
1. Yeah I just said religion has crazy **** . You're just repeating what i've said.

2. I'd like some form of proof that all religion does more harm than good. Judging every religion/religious person as part of a whole is a stereotype. Stereotypes just make assholes of everybody.
User avatar #116 to #113 - hydraetis ONLINE (11/26/2012) [-]
well, to be fair for the concept of all religion most of my hate is for christianity and islam. out of my knowledge those two have done the most damage to the world.
User avatar #119 to #116 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
I have two issues with christianity.

1. Most Christians have never actually read the bible
2. Christian Extremists are well Extremists and have come to be the stereotype for all Christians.

As an example i've known more Christians for gay rights than against but in the media the Christian demographic is always said to be against gay rights.



2B. Issue two stems from issue 1 christians who havent read the bible and don't know what they're talking about or whats important. Due to this religion can be used by extremists to persuade idiots.
User avatar #114 to #103 - madjik (11/26/2012) [-]
I don't need religion to tell me to be a nice guy, because as a human I realize that being a cunt is ******* annoying.
User avatar #121 to #114 - silasdg (11/26/2012) [-]
I'm not saying anyone "needs" religion i'm simply saying there are beneficial parts.
#138 to #103 - jtblip (11/26/2012) [-]
I completely agree with you.   
   
Religion isn't about following a big church or one guy (because quite frankly the pope is a joke). It's about living a life that you think deserves more than just what the world has to offer you.   
   
I'll never put down any body else's ideas, even being religious myself. I even like to listen to peoples theories, even if they're completely in the opposite direction of my thoughts. The more opinions, the better, I'm all for the spread of public opinion.   
   
It all ends with one thing, everyone living to be happy, it's really the whole ideal of life in general. People seem to be looking for reasons not to be happy now, though.
I completely agree with you.

Religion isn't about following a big church or one guy (because quite frankly the pope is a joke). It's about living a life that you think deserves more than just what the world has to offer you.

I'll never put down any body else's ideas, even being religious myself. I even like to listen to peoples theories, even if they're completely in the opposite direction of my thoughts. The more opinions, the better, I'm all for the spread of public opinion.

It all ends with one thing, everyone living to be happy, it's really the whole ideal of life in general. People seem to be looking for reasons not to be happy now, though.
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