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#51 - whatley ONLINE (08/06/2012) [-]
Old myth, let me disprove this with maths.

This is the formula used for calculating the catch rate of a Pokemon. Just to be nice to you, I'll pick the mathematically hardest Pokemon to catch, Mewtwo. Taking his base stats off of the internet and assuming his health is full, "HP current" should equal 106 along with "HP max".
Mewtwo's catch rate is three, like most legendaries (Which is why they're so hard to catch), so "Rate" is 3.
Also assuming he has no status on him (Like sleep or paralysis) the "BONUSstatus" is one and the BONUSball for the Master ball is 255, plug that all into the formula and you get a=255.
Now, the second formula we need to use is this,
This formula will give us the "shake probability". Each time the pokeball wobbles it performs a test, to see if the value of "a" is high enough for the pokemon to be caught, if it isn't, then it'll break free. For each of these tests, a random number between 0 and 65535 is generated and tested against the value of "b" that is derived from this new formula. If "b" is higher than or equal to the random number, then that test is passed, if all four tests are passed, then you catch the Pokemon ( **** yeah).

Now, our value for "a" was 255, so if you stick it into that formula then the value that you'll get for "b" is 65535, and the very highest value that can be generated is, guess what, 65535. And if "b" is higher than or equal to the number generated, then you pass the tests. Therefore b will always be greater than or equal to the number generated, so you CANNOT fail if you use a Master ball. QED.

tl;dr - Maths says that you can't fail using a Master ball, so happy legendary catchings.
#159 to #51 - aBlindMoron (08/07/2012) [-]
Oh cool, a mathematician.

Ever heard that rumor that a high level of concentration on something can affect a RNG?

What if all that time I spent pressing B while the Pokeball shook affected the RNG and raised the value of b?

What if pressing B actually did make a catch more likely?

What if I was phone?
User avatar #129 to #51 - ultiomos (08/06/2012) [-]
And, when a Master Ball is used, it skips the catch formula, anyways. So even a Pokémon with a catch rate of 0 would be caught, even though it wouldn't if the formula was used. I've done a little bit of ROM hacking, and messed around with this before, so I've got experience.
User avatar #63 to #51 - rintintin (08/06/2012) [-]
they should teach this in schools. I mean people need this more than algebra
User avatar #113 to #63 - iamnotstevenhooper (08/06/2012) [-]
That IS Algebra.

******* kids these days...
#84 to #63 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
Don't go full retard.
#69 to #63 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
retard. wow. are you 14?
#64 to #63 - whatley ONLINE (08/06/2012) [-]
You do realise that algebra is all about replacing numbers with letters and symbols to make general formulae and prove things? I used algebra in proving this. Algebra is probably one of the most important regions of mathematics.
#54 to #51 - lalavenderlove (08/06/2012) [-]
Ash can now catch legendaries without a worry in the world.

Good thinking, sir.
User avatar #48 - shadowsynergy (08/06/2012) [-]
I never use my masterball. I love the long grueling boss battles and spamming pokeballs...
User avatar #46 - guiguito (08/06/2012) [-]
playing pokemon gold on a emulator
trying to catch entei
the ball never worked
User avatar #65 to #46 - epiclyFAiL (08/06/2012) [-]
Emulators aren't direct codings, there's bound to be a margin of error somewhere in the game, and in your case it's the masterball.
User avatar #45 - thebukman (08/06/2012) [-]
what does that red line beneath 'did you know' say?
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User avatar #44 - simplelife (08/06/2012) [-]
Yeah it's happened to me in pokemon yellow trying to catch mewtwo. It was a bad day indeed.
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#73 to #41 - conagheraxe (08/06/2012) [-]
The Master Ball cannot fail, it doesn't have the same formula as the other Poke Balls do.

Get out.
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#40 - thefasrdog (08/06/2012) [-]
When it fails...
When it fails...
User avatar #38 - mushimeister (08/06/2012) [-]
I don't even need to save before catching mewtwo, I have the masterball. ****
#37 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
Imagine being that poor sod..............." Ya I caught mewtwo!!!!...................wait you've gotta be ******* kidding me!!!!!!!!!!
#34 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
fake and gay
User avatar #32 - hertogrick (08/06/2012) [-]
If you're using the master ball it means it's probably a legendary you're catching. You should always save before going to battle with a legendary. No worries about the odds.
#31 - ipostfunny (08/06/2012) [-]
So you're saying that tapping A+B really quick doesn't do **** ?
#30 - poopsmeller (08/06/2012) [-]
#39 to #30 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
Nice job copying comment #2, ass wipe.
#42 to #39 - jasonthelurker (08/06/2012) [-]
Nice job on #2 from taking that joke from an earlier post.
User avatar #29 - celestiasbeard (08/06/2012) [-]
pokemon have a very weird equation equaling the catch rate with the highest being 255 which is near impossible to catch or even see, a masterball and two other pokeballs have a set value of 255 so they cant **** up
User avatar #36 to #29 - kamusioso (08/06/2012) [-]
the higher the catch rate the easier to catch, mewtwo has a catch rate of 3, and the master ball always works, screwing the equation, other pokeballs do calculate, but the master ball is a sure catch
#33 to #29 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
hex is "weird" pretty much all code with active calculation uses it.
#28 - subjectomega (08/06/2012) [-]
did you know that sonic first appeared as an air freshener in the racing game Rad Mobile?
#25 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
This is actually false. Since red and blue, the master ball has had a script in which the game goes "oh he is using a master ball, instant catch". The master ball thus catches anything (with the exception of the marowak in the pokemon tower in firered/leafgreen, he has a catch-rate of 0 an is uncatchable.)
#43 to #25 - Absolute Madman (08/06/2012) [-]
You my friend, are indeed correct. To all the idiots who say the post is true look up pokemon catch rates. They iz serious business.
#4 - pastelbubblegum (08/06/2012) [-]
<--OP's face when
User avatar #3 - alphawolffifteen (08/06/2012) [-]
Actually it has no chance of failing, look it up.
User avatar #35 to #2 - dstar (08/06/2012) [-]
more like "ditto was caught!"
User avatar #1 - ikinkajou (08/06/2012) [-]
Bad luck Brian...
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