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#564 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
I like you OP. not because of your beliefs or the post, but because you're not one of those fags who are like "hurr durr dont meen to sturt a ********* . just thot it was funny". you come right out and say it. you like ********** and you are proud.
#561 - lizzarro (07/22/2012) [-]
**lizzarro rolled a random image posted in comment #32 at Bus ** how I feel about these religious **********
#558 - driehl (07/22/2012) [-]
**driehl rolled a random image posted in comment #162 at 90's Kids **   
Thought the debate would have gone down guess not.
**driehl rolled a random image posted in comment #162 at 90's Kids **
Thought the debate would have gone down guess not.
User avatar #557 - floydrose (07/22/2012) [-]
I am a christian and I don't care what you believe in

Funny though, Atheists complain that christians shove our beliefs down everyone's throat. Look at the comments. Atheists are all over here "Christians, you're ******* dumb".
We don't care. We have something to believe in.
I do not have a problem with atheists as I am friends with many of them, I'm even friends with a satanic girl.
User avatar #600 to #557 - srskate (07/22/2012) [-]
I still don't get satanism.
User avatar #908 to #600 - floydrose (07/22/2012) [-]
They believe that everyone will sin, especially the 7 deadly sins. They say it's all natural, and you should take part in whatever you want aslong as you have fun.
"You wanna be the baddest kid on the block? Go ahead, be the baddest kid on the block".
Quote from a little documentary thing I was watching.
User avatar #970 to #908 - srskate (07/22/2012) [-]
ehhhh
i dont agree with that.
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#586 to #557 - HOtaconE (07/22/2012) [-]
Teaching your kids the moment they can understand IS shoving it down. Why don't you wait till your kids are 15 or at least 10 to teach them? When they already have a mind of their own? When they don't automatically embed everything you teach thim into the depths of their mind?

By teaching kids when they still cack their pants you take away their freedom of religion. If I teach my 2 year old kid murder is okay he will never suspect otherwise. Same with religion.
User avatar #580 to #557 - vincetacular (07/22/2012) [-]
But you are a sane christian, just like I'm a sane atheist, we don't start crap arguments with each other.

I don't believe in a god but that doesn't mean I deny the possibility. If one day someone can prove me that there is a god I will not become hysterical but rather like "oh wow,... guess you were right all along".

I do have a problem with people acting like they know everything and use their god for excuse ("god wants us to kill those people who believe in an other god"), those who feel superior for believing or those that use God as an excuse for homophobic/racist behaviour.
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#551 - lizzarro (07/22/2012) [-]
here we go again...
#541 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
I would say that i am a man of science i honestly say i would rather believe in science instead of middle east fairy tales
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#537 - garymuthafuknoak (07/22/2012) [-]
And in this comment section, we have raging-ass christian extremist anons, posting as anonymous because the are scared of red thumbs.
And in this comment section, we have raging-ass christian extremist anons, posting as anonymous because the are scared of red thumbs.
User avatar #709 to #537 - Pokemat (07/22/2012) [-]
holy **** JonTron :D
User avatar #552 to #537 - dantethebrony (07/22/2012) [-]
Don't even care because I just got this gif.
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#546 to #537 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
And in this part of the Comment Section we have raging ass Atheists trying to get green thumbs

I've really never given a **** what Religion anyone is or whether they're Atheist or not.
#536 - nikhilfifa (07/22/2012) [-]
**** storm
#533 - winniedawho (07/22/2012) [-]
I have superpowers, I could fly.


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**** YOU SONOFABITCH YOU CAN'T DISPROVE I CAN'T FLY!!!**
#528 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
Catholic here, and I don't give a **** what you believe in. and I find it stupid as hell that I have to start this with "Catholic" but there it is. Anyways, I ******* love the way atheists here hate religion so much when, in the terms of its beginning, it's a simple common idea that:

1. there is a life after death, a way your mind/being/soul/consciousness continues in some way, which to any rational person that wants to continue their existence doesn't sound that half bad
2. be nice to everyone and give anything you can spare to others without any hope of reward, but at least make them know to respect you and not pity you or be kicked around. (jesus with attacking the merchants with stands in the temple for one(Least i think that happened, I haven't studied the bible like some hardcore atheists. oh irony))
3. That we were created with a purpose and not accidents. Honestly though, science's explanation of the creation of everything makes as much sense to a rational mind as creationism. I like the combine the two.

and if you seriously hate these things, or hate people being happy with what they believe in, then you're just stupid, stubborn or as ignorant as the zealots that you hate so much. TL:DR I'm ready for red thumbs for opinion and retarded debate on this content.
#603 to #528 - chaoticlaw ONLINE (07/22/2012) [-]
I'm sorry, you make a great point, but I NEED TO KNOW.

Please.
#608 to #603 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
NOT THE DARKEST OR BRIGHTEST CLUE IN EXISTENCE!
#609 to #608 - chaoticlaw ONLINE (07/22/2012) [-]
Oh well, I'll just have to make do with what I have.
Oh well, I'll just have to make do with what I have.
#539 to #528 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
Couldn't agree with you more, so far every Atheist that has commented, talks about people who believe in Religion stupid, it's as if you're expecting us to say "We're sorry, you're right, we should bow down to Atheists for our crimes of religion" Personally, I never gave a **** what religion anyone is, that would be like me saying "If you don't believe in god, you're going to hell" These arguments are pointless, and I really can't stand the fact that everything Atheists have commented, is something to try get people to say "sorry, I believe in having a Religion"

Get the **** over yourselves, that includes the Over Religious Christians too, no one should give a **** who you are
#538 to #528 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
This is the first time on FunnyJunk I've seen a religous comment that makes sense.
Thumb for you.
User avatar #526 - pokemonstheshiz (07/22/2012) [-]
I would like to propose a theory.
If God is presumed to be omniscient, wouldn't that make him unable to interfere with the world. To be omniscient is to perceive everything at once, to have no concept of time. Everything he would need to do would be done already, set up the way it would happen. Couldn't change because he would already have known of the change and done it before.
#542 to #526 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
oh this argument will be both fun and mind hurting

I present to you another theory: Time being an object and not just a measurement. What if there was part of the universe, no, existence that didn't have time. that it either stayed in one place or moved but without the wear of time. What then?
User avatar #824 to #542 - koalafication (07/22/2012) [-]
I propose a third theory:
What if time doesn't exist? All that exists is movement and that time is something created by man.

Think about it. The initial function of time is to measure hours in the day, days in a month, months in a year, years in an etc. Which is merely the earth rotating and is different for every planet in the universe.

It can also be used to measure things like distance covered in a minute. Minutes are measured in seconds, which are measured in milliseconds, go back far enough and it's measured by vibrations (movement) in the quartz in your watch.

If I stand up and take a step to the right. I'm no longer sitting in my chair. No matter how many seconds pass between when I was sitting in my chair and now that I'm standing is arbitrary. I WAS in the chair. Then I moved. The actual movement is all that physically exists and matters.

Sorry to resurrect a dead discussion but I saw it and had to provide an imput.
User avatar #555 to #542 - pokemonstheshiz (07/22/2012) [-]
Time is simply change. Any endspace separate from this universe would not have time. If an omniscient deity existed he would live in that endspace, but it would have to be disconnected from this universe. My point is that if he created the universe, he would need not interfere or observe it, since he already would know what would happen, or has happened from his perspective.
#567 to #555 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
what if all this **** has happened thousands of times and it has no interference with this world or galaxy or plain of existence since that'd show favor towards one being out of billions, or possibly trillions or even centillions, nearly infinite lives, why assist one such being out of so many? What if it does actually assist, but in a way you don't notice? As futurama said in one episode, "If you did something right, no one will be certain you did anything at all."
User avatar #569 to #567 - pokemonstheshiz (07/22/2012) [-]
That's exactly my point. Which partially stems from this quote
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There are most likely infinite universes, which is evident based on this one's mere existence. What would make us special.
User avatar #578 to #569 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
what makes us special is my existence. your existence. anyone's existence. maybe god's blessing is a mind. maybe it's ability of choice. maybe it's the ability of breathing alone. what ever the case, it is the fact you're alive and have a place in existence that is the blessing, why waste it ending it or wasting it?
User avatar #582 to #578 - pokemonstheshiz (07/22/2012) [-]
Exactly. Even scientifically, the odds of you being born are astronomically small, we should not take it for granted. Progress is the one difference we can make, we should aim to do just that.
#522 - oxan (07/22/2012) [-]
>mfw these threads are filled with people trying to gain the moral high ground my claiming apathy against theists/atheists
#529 to #522 - headkicker (07/22/2012) [-]
And as we all know; Apathy is Death.
#527 to #522 - whosmomisitanyway (07/22/2012) [-]
hahaha cass is the **** . also you right.
#516 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
Whenever I'm on the internet it's always like "Excuse me sir, may you spare a moment of your time for Atheism"

What the **** , why should anyone care whether you have a religion or not, get the **** over it. Most people that are Christian, Athiest, Muslim, Jewish or whatever don't care, but as soon as I reach comments it's "Hurr durr Christians are stupid" or "Hurr durr Atheists are stupid" seriously, it doesn't matt who you are, and you shouldn't be prejudice towards someone because of their Religion, and this directed towards every Religion saying they're better than the other, and Atheists who think they're so much better because they don't believe they're god.
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User avatar #507 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
I dislike christians, because their motivation to behave comes from a threat of going to hell, while atheists behave because it is humane to do so. Example: Christian thinks: I could shoot up this school, but i will go to hell if i do that, and i wont. Atheist thinks: I could shoot up this school, but that would make me a sick monster, and it is against the rules of society.I want to be a normal human beeing, so i wont.

Yes, as you can proboably tell, im an atheist. Sorry for the bad grammar, not everyone here is from the UK or USA.
#534 to #507 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
so you dislike people because they have a different reason to do good things? Really?
so you dislike people because they have a different reason to do good things? Really?
User avatar #553 to #534 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
What im saying is, christians do good things because if they dont, they go to hell. That is a punishment. Atheists do good things because it is common nature. We must be kind to the same species to survive. We do not need a punishment or a scare to be nice.
#565 to #553 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
guess what 						****					 face, not everyone of a species is the same. Did you ever hear of a little thing of "Mutation"? The thing that changes traits in birth? The thing that leads evolution, whose only companion is survival? Both in genes, and mind development are people different. That means both their morals and ability to understand are different. Some people need a good punch in the face (Gif. related to that) to get a point or guts or morals. Others need words. Others need to get to the point on their own terms. And even others will never get it. What i'm saying is, you can't expect every human being everywhere to have the same dead set outlook on everything like you do. and another point is, they're doing good thing, why hate their reason for it?   
   
also consider the gif. double related as me punching logic into your skull. kidding. or maybe not...
guess what **** face, not everyone of a species is the same. Did you ever hear of a little thing of "Mutation"? The thing that changes traits in birth? The thing that leads evolution, whose only companion is survival? Both in genes, and mind development are people different. That means both their morals and ability to understand are different. Some people need a good punch in the face (Gif. related to that) to get a point or guts or morals. Others need words. Others need to get to the point on their own terms. And even others will never get it. What i'm saying is, you can't expect every human being everywhere to have the same dead set outlook on everything like you do. and another point is, they're doing good thing, why hate their reason for it?

also consider the gif. double related as me punching logic into your skull. kidding. or maybe not...
User avatar #575 to #565 - godisdog (07/22/2012) [-]
He never said he expected everyone to be the same, just that he disliked the concept that people need something to justify good behavior.
User avatar #583 to #575 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
no, he didn't say he disliked the concept, he said he disliked the people. huge difference. I only said that everyone isn't the same since he's trying to make a point that "all people should be atheists to be good people" and the line of "we don't need" etc. etc.
User avatar #587 to #583 - godisdog (07/22/2012) [-]
Ya your right, my bad. Do not generalize friend, but i love a good argument.
User avatar #570 to #565 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Have you ever tried the whip and cookie technic to get yourselves to do something? While christians need both the whip and the cookie, (whip beeing the hell, cookie beeing the ''beeing a good person, loving jesus, whatever'') While atheists do not need any whip whatsoever. What if that neighbour from my comment below starts to consider, is going to hell worth living in peace in this world with my dog's dead corpse in his basement? Beeing a nutcase that he is, what if he actually does it? And says: well, now im going to hell, but atleast i spend my time here on earth in peace. He hasnt asked me to buy my dog a shock-collar or lock him up in the house, he just muffles almost every time i go for a walk and he is sitting on his porch: ''I wish that god-damned dog would just run.
#593 to #570 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
now you're just making **** up. "Oh, this dog is annoying, IMMA KILL IT" and let me say something about "atheist moral law" and "society's laws". Everything. can. be. legitimized. everything. sad thing is, religious moral laws are stricter and less bendable than humanity's. so don't just go saying they just need one little thing to consider doing something bad.

and to bring my point from the start back up, if they're doing something good, why care for the reason? some one gives you 5 bucks on the street, would you ask why?
User avatar #611 to #593 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Yes i would. I would ask what is your motivation to. If they want to be good people, christian or atheist, im good. If they say i dont want to go to hell, it would make me assume they did something bad, and want redemption. Beliefs can only be enforced by yourself, and drugs, alcohol, peer-pressure etc, can break down those confinements, while strict laws that are enforced by people with jobs specially to do that usually keep you in shape. What if those 5 dollars he gave me was taken from a rape victim 5 minutes ago, in his drunken fury. Then realising what he did, thought of that cash as ''Tainted Money'' and gave it to me. Those mood-swings some people have while drinking can be pretty scary if you happen to be sober near a guy who has them. And yes i have seen christians drink beer. That old guy next door who hates my dog drinks beer almost every day at home, but he prays before every sip. Or atleast i assume he is praying, because he has his hands together, head lowered, eyes closed and he is mumbling something. I recognize that pose from church, where i was forced to go by my parents a few times when i was younger.
#615 to #611 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
nooooow i get it. you're an idiot! here, let me give you a little advice of what i've observed in the world. We're all capable of the same feats, the same defeats, the same wins, the same choices. the only difference is scale or if we will or not. an atheist can kill, a christian can kill. you're way of putting it is that society is some how superior to religion, dismissing the fact that in some cultures religion IS society, and they keep from killing each other just fine. we're all different in limiting ourselves, what we believe in, and our reasons for doing anything, but to hate some one for their reasons of doing a good thing is just stupid.

let me put this simpler. you're saying that only a theist would see it as "tainted money", like an atheist would keep it in the first place if they had an honor code? you're just ignorant in thinking that atheism is some how superior to religion!
User avatar #621 to #615 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
To beeing an idiot: No, im 14, from an non-english speaking country. For the last part. A group of people blindly belive there is a giant floating man in the air looking at 7 Billion people at the same time, he made people from dirt. They dismiss the theory of evulution, because if they think god made everything perfect. There are a total of atleast 9000 diffrent gods, and you think yours is the main one? How come yours? Why not the viking god Odin. He promised to end all ice giants, jesus promised an end to vicked people. Do you see any ice giants around? Therefore Odin is supreme to jesus. If i remember correctly, and correct me if im wrong, he was the son of Thor, aka The Big Man relevant, his son did not need any help to fulfil his promise, while Jesus has had 2000 years to fulfill his promise, and he still failed. If god is almighty, why did the shootings in batman happen. Why hasnt he still wiped out non-belivers? Why did he let hundreds of devoted christians die in 9/11? Why has he not cleared the myth that his own decendances in this world abuse children? If i so much doubt god, and it says in the bible he cares about everyone, why hasnt he showed himself for proof to aid christians in debates and overthrow atheists who demand proof. Is he too big of a pussy to come out? I just insulted god, why can i still type this, and i havent been smited down or sent to hell?

TL;DR We have no proof of god, therefore i do not belive in it.

User avatar #628 to #621 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
but that is what faith is, the belief of something despite no proof otherwise. scientists do this all the time, but call them "theories" and work withing them. and most scientists who have contributed the largest amount of help to society were infact religious. and if god did help anyone, obviously, it would be pure unfair. why would he support in more of one of his creations then another? It's like a parent choosing between their children. and you'd want god to get rid of free choice? your logic of why god can't exist is the same as those people whom you hate so much, circular logic. but only in your favor. and you're 14, you know nothing of the world or its bounty of people. i'm only 17 and I know i know nothing. but ignorance is the denial of knowledge, let it be science or religion. to learn is to grow, to dismiss without trying is to create stagnation. and let me say, you're using retarded jokes/arguments i've seen a hundred times on the internet as points, not really supporting your case.
#637 to #628 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
So, what you are saying is, god doesnt help anyone, so we can just fight on. And the thing with theories. If a scientist can not prove his theory, it is scrapped. Everything in science can be explained by something, be it test, algorythm, whatever. Religion has no proof, and it can not be explained. People just belive. I have no problem with religious people who go: I belive in god, but im a good person, respect people who are atheist. Everyone has their own choices.
I dont like people who are like this: I belive in god, the bible says so. Bible is the truth, god says so. If i am not a good person, i will go to hell. You are atheist, you are wrong, gay's must be banned, i will boycot oreos etc. Most christians i have met in my short life are the later. There comes my negative view on christians. While i do not dismiss the fact that scientists who are christian have done marvellous work. The christians in the medival ages were ignorant cultists, opressing inventors and people who thought the earth is round and spins around the sun, witch by today is common knowledge, if crazy lunatic cultists would not have happened in the medivals, roman and greek cultures could have prospered. In that culture science and medicine was very important. We could have a cure for cancer and be colonizing mars by now, if the advancement in science and medicine would have not been stopped by religion.
If you disagree, that is your problem, this is my view on things.
Pic related, found it in my folder. This is my base idea on witch I improved as i saw fit.
#646 to #637 - sircool (07/22/2012) [-]
hate the person, not the people. something i've learned in life right there. also don't be so goddamn negative. it doesn't hurt at all to believe in something, and I think some people can easily just spare an hour of their sunday's.
hate the person, not the people. something i've learned in life right there. also don't be so goddamn negative. it doesn't hurt at all to believe in something, and I think some people can easily just spare an hour of their sunday's.
User avatar #651 to #646 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Buisy guy who runs a minecraft server on demand, does youtube videos with 2 friends, and still has to do chores, not really. I do belive in myself. If i want to conquer something, i dont ask for a blessing or help, i just belive in myself. As an atheist, i belive i am the real god of my life, and if i want to **** it up i will. Thank you for this lovely argument. It both helped me show that there are some sensible christians out there, and helped me learn a few new words, for english is not my first language as you could proboably read from the first post i made. Good day to you sir.
User avatar #530 to #507 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Oh boy, christians thumbing down an atheist with an opinion.
User avatar #525 to #507 - tritonsbane (07/22/2012) [-]
No, incorrect. I'm Christian, and while, yes, we do believe in hell, the basic rules of society do apply. The way you put it, if I were to suddenly go atheist, I would be some sort of a mad lunatic.
User avatar #549 to #525 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
From what i have personally experienced, if the threat of hell would be suddenly lifted, yes. You would become an ******** crazy living-life-with-no-rules nutcase.
User avatar #512 to #507 - cupcakedevourer (07/22/2012) [-]
I'm not from the UK and my first language is English.

sorry, I'm an athiest too.
#510 to #507 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
You think if I do bad things I go to Hell? Christians aren't saved by works, they are saved by faith. I do good thing because I love Jesus and people, not to land myself a spot in Heaven.
User avatar #513 to #510 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
ofcourse, there are exeptions, but most of my neighbours think like that. For example i overheard a conversation they had about my dog.''Damn that god damned mut will not shut up, i swear i will get my axe and chop its head off.'' ''But honey, then we can not go to heaven together, dont do it.'' ''Ok, ok. Not yet.'' Translated from estonian. I prefer to keep my dog inside just incase.
User avatar #545 to #513 - drakesblood (07/22/2012) [-]
Well your neighbours do not represent the majority of Christians. They sound like idiots, and the thing about idiots is that they are not limited by gender, or nationality, or even belief system. They are like weeds.
I had a Christian upbringing, and the reason I don't go around killing people is because I was taught to respect life, in all it's forms. I was taught to treat other as I would like to be treated. I didn't get any threats of hell or damnation.
If you want to assume that the majority of Christians are like your neighbours, and are motivated to behave the way they do by the same things, then you are just as close-minded and stupid as you think they are.
User avatar #562 to #545 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Im not dissagreeing there might be senseful christians out there. Im chatting with a few here right now. That opinion is a hundred percent formed on personal experience.
User avatar #589 to #562 - drakesblood (07/22/2012) [-]
By saying there might be sensible Christians out there, you are still calling the majority of Christians stupid. You ought to work on being more diplomatic when you talk to people.
User avatar #599 to #589 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Again, there might be sensible christians, but the bunch im stuck with are quite nut-casey, and because i have only met sensible christians on the internet, and have read about Westboro baptist church, (the crazy lunatics) my current experiences say most of the christians are, i will say it bluntly, stupid. A factor might be that there are a lot of christians near me, they just dont shove religion down my throat, and usualy stay quiet, so i just have not met them.
User avatar #535 to #513 - tritonsbane (07/22/2012) [-]
Your neighbors sound a bit...unstable.
#524 to #513 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
So you're being prejudice towards every Christian, just because your neighbours said something? That would be as if I were to say "Every Atheist is the same they think they're better than everyone else"
User avatar #543 to #524 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
Well, in Tallinn, where i live, is a school strictly for christian people, called Vanalinna Hardiuskoleegium. (Website, to any of you who need proof: You need to login to view this link ) My brother goes there. That is the only school that has religion as an actual study. That is also the only school that has bullies (that i know of, and i because my 2 younger sisters go to a diffrent school, and i have gone to 2 diffrent schools near that area, i think i have a big enough research-base) , who even mess with 1st graders, while they are from the 9th. Other schools who dont have religion, i have never seen a huge bully-spree. I think once even the police got involved.
#554 to #543 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
Well there you go, you basically just defended my point, thank you.
User avatar #566 to #554 - tankeruber (07/22/2012) [-]
The point im trying to make is, only school with direct support from the national church organization, religion as a study, also has bullying, beatings, and the police have to get involved, you'd think by reading the bible every day they would be good kids. But because their parents have punished them at home for every mistake they did, they cant live themselves out, they do it at school.
#503 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
******* cancerous wretches.
#508 to #503 - anon (07/22/2012) [-]
im gonna stick around for this one

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#504 to #503 - shcifter (07/22/2012) [-]
You must have a ******* deathwish. Or be new here.

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