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#114572 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
GIF
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/john-boehner-ted-cruz-lucifer/480315/

"I'm voting for Trump because he's anti-establishment"

hah, right.....
#114576 to #114572 - minibeep
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(04/28/2016) [-]
im shilling for him from europe
#114575 to #114572 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Arguing against Trump being anti-establishment is a lost war. Pls stop.
#114603 to #114575 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
I disagree.
#114604 to #114603 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Arguing Trump is not anti-establishment is like arguing Bernie isn't anti-establishment. You're broadening the lines of what is establishment so much, that at that point no one is, which makes no sense.

Both clearly hold views that are not revolutionary, however they are significantly different from what their parties typically preach. They are also heavily disliked by their own party, and their own parties are trying to suppress them from winning. They are anti-establishment.
#114605 to #114604 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
That's actually a good point.
#114565 - anon
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(04/28/2016) [-]
#BlackLivesMatter
#114557 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Is censorship inherently left or right wing?
#114653 to #114557 - theplanetearth
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(04/29/2016) [-]
Censorship in some cases is for the common good. The common man does not have a mind capable of understanding things, and needs to be protected form dangerous knowledge, but dangerous knowledge does not need to be destroyed. It needs to be archived, and kept away from the public. I'm a far right monarchist, and I saw what the gutenburg bible did to Christianity. If the common man knew what was good for him democracy wouldn't be a spectacular failure.
#114579 to #114557 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Can we please stop with the 1D political model.

Censorship is NOT left or right wing, its authoritarian-wing (the opposite being libertarian).
#114600 to #114579 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
That's the answer I'm looking for.
#114587 to #114579 - thumbfortrump
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(04/28/2016) [-]
One of the best thing I've read on here in a long time.
#114560 to #114557 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
ideologically speaking, it's more consistent with far right
but in modern politics, it's almost exclusively the left, because there really aren't any far right parties.

this is one of those many many times when the one dimensional spectrum is really inadequate
Big government authoritarians support censorship. Currently the left is more in favor of bigger government
#114561 to #114560 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
In the United States it seems to be the right pushing censorship, mostly on family values and what not. I would pin that on how this country is relatively more conservative though. Globally it seems the left is also complicit in a great deal of it though.
#114609 to #114561 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
The right in America generally opposes censorship. It's always the left that supports more regulation on speech
#114611 to #114609 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Try to make a movie with any sexual content and get it below an R rating. Try to bash Christianity in mainstream culture. Try to get off the ground with something that insults the military. It's impossible.
#114612 to #114611 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Some might disagree with it, but I've never seen them try to regulate or ban it. That's the difference. Not in America anyways.
#114613 to #114612 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
The vast majority of American censorship is "decency" based. It's illegal to broadcast programming with curse words before 11pm.
#114614 to #114613 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
What are you talking about? They curse in half the shows on primetime. That aside, having standards of decency isn't censorship. Every single country has some minimal standards of what's acceptable. That's got nothing to do with right or left. Meanwhile try telling a Democrat that a man should only use a man's bathroom and see how many times you get accused of hate speech
#114615 to #114614 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
"The FCC defines profanity as "including language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance." Like indecency, profane speech is prohibited on broadcast radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m."
www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-profane-broadcasts

It's illegal to broadcast certain profanities on television during daytime. What you're saying here, is it's only censorship when you consider it censorship.
#114616 to #114615 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
South Park is on at 9:30.

Also didn't know the FCC was some right wing stronghold
#114617 to #114616 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
And they censor the broadcast buddy.

The institution reflects consevative ideology, in this sense.
#114618 to #114617 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Censorship contradicts conservative values. Conservatism is based around constitutionalism. Which prohibits censorship
#114619 to #114618 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Then maybe they should try reading the constitution.
#114620 to #114619 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Conservatives do. Just not the statists that go on all day about traditional values and Christianity who are not conservative.
#114621 to #114620 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
In the American sense, they are the conservatives.
#114623 to #114621 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
According to whom?
#114624 to #114623 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
According to the ideology of American conservatives.
#114580 to #114561 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Uhh are you shitting me son, what about universities in general in America. I think its a both side problem in America, because of the ultra-religious right and the regressive left. I'd argue though that the regressive left is a bigger problem in the long run.
#114547 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
If Trump weren't so pants-on-head retarded when it comes to international trade, I'd may actually consider voting for him
#114610 to #114547 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
His ignorance of basic economics on international trade is the only reason I can't support him. (Our at least one of the main reasons) I don't care at all about his rhetoric or racial stuff people make up against him.
#114550 to #114547 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Based on?
#114551 to #114550 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
what?
#114552 to #114551 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
What would make you consider voting for trump?
#114553 to #114552 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
the spoiler effect
#114554 to #114553 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Who's campaign are you trying to spoil?
#114555 to #114554 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
I'd be trying NOT to spoil the opponent of Hillary
#114556 to #114555 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
I'm confused.
#114558 to #114556 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
My current plan is to vote for Gary Johnson, the libertarian candidate.
Libertarians as a general rule are closer to republicans than to democrats.
If a libertarian votes 3rd party instead of republican, it means one less vote that the republican candidate would otherwise have. This gives the democrats an advantage, which is seen as more undesirable than having a republican.
This is the spoiler effect, aka splitting the vote.

I am considering voting for Trump because I don't like Hillary
But my current plan is to still vote 3rd party, even if it means a less vote for Trump, because I don't like Trump and I'd rather vote 3rd party in protest.
#114581 to #114558 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
>Hillary supports NAFTA and the TPP
>so do you

Maybe you should vote for Hilary?
#114584 to #114581 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Hillary opposes a lot of trade agreements

at least recently... she's been flopping all over the place, like what she does with every issue
just like Trump does

And I'm skeptical of a 10,000 page bill that should be one page
A lot of claims against TPP are bullshit. Copyright arguments may have some validity.
#114586 to #114584 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Tell me, what's the ideological difference between a libertarian and a social democrat?
#114592 to #114586 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Social democrats are far more likely to use government to socially engineer society.
---Even on social issues, they are not as liberals as they claim. This is clearly evident in forcing private businesses to serve people against their will. They mandate what foods people can and cannot eat because of health reasons.
---They are often more racist in that they claim blacks are unable to compete with everyone else; it's very condescending. If they say people have biases against black, they take away blacks ability to compete by mandating price floors, which have virtually double black unemployment rates.
---They care more about equality, and are often to sacrifice absolute levels in order to achieve it. For example, some extremists want the government to collectively raise children to avoid the privilege that comes with have good parents (not necessarily rich; you can have poor good parents)
---They often reject the voluntary interactions between consenting adults (unregulated capitalism)
---They are far more likely to use mob rule or "it's the will of the people" to justify their position (ie, "we are the 99%")
---They have far less respect for individual rights, like free speech, self defense, due process
#114599 to #114592 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
A lot of the ones you stated are just assumptions you have. None of these are inherently present in the social democrat ideology. It's just that some retards interpret it to being that way.
#114606 to #114599 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
they are inherently more egalitarian and are willing to sacrifice individuality to attain it; that's the biggest difference
#114607 to #114606 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Now that's true.
#114559 to #114558 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Hey, if no one votes third party a third party candidate will never win.
#114562 to #114559 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
The Problems with First Past the Post Voting Explained it's quite the pickle, isn't it.
#114564 to #114562 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
And also the two dominant parties have no incentive to change the voting system, and are basically guaranteed victory by it. Hypothetically, it can't change.
#114563 to #114562 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Though if you think in terms of the spoiler effect you'll never get what you want. Spreading the idea is actually extremely useful for the dominant parties.
#114548 to #114547 - anon
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(04/28/2016) [-]
How bad would Trump's 35% import tariff be?
#114549 to #114548 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
you're talking another recession, without a doubt
#114544 - anon
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(04/28/2016) [-]
#114536 - pebar
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Does Donald Trump Have The Will Of The People Unforgivensoul, I know you dislike Ben Shapiro

But I don't care
#114542 to #114536 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
/politics/114278#114278

Fuck you too I guess.
#114537 to #114536 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
I hate that he's taking a week off. That's at least 2 hours of streaming I have to replace at work.
#114522 - asotil
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Out of every human being on the planet

Carly fucking Fiorna
#114530 to #114522 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
She's great for VP.

Remember the only thing she has to do as VP is smile and wait for the president to die. She's got no office and isn't extraordinary in any way so she's easily replaceable. And she's a woman so pandering points. (Though the only other times a woman was a running mate in history they lost in historic landslides)
#114538 to #114530 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Palin's an idiot though.
#114539 to #114538 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
There's Geraldine Ferrarro too
#114540 to #114539 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
I'm not gonna lie, I had no idea any woman other than Palin ever ran for VP. I have so much to learn.
#114541 to #114540 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
She was on one of the tickets that ran against Reagan or HW. So I imagine it's not really well known by a lot of young people
#114543 to #114541 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
That sounds like more of a correlation problem.
#114545 to #114543 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
Probably true, but the devil's advocate in me wants to consider it
#114546 to #114545 - theism
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(04/28/2016) [-]
It is a data point, although there were significant mitigating circumstances. E.g. running against Reagan and being Sarah Palin. Still it could be smart, given they could use it against Clinton.
#114532 to #114530 - unforgivensoul
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(04/28/2016) [-]
She eats kids on her spare time.
#114533 to #114532 - PopcornViking
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(04/28/2016) [-]
pair that with the zodiac killer and youve got trouble
#114525 to #114522 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
She's a woman from California. Sounds like a tactical plan.
#114527 to #114525 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Oh shit, I didn't even think about her being from Cali.

100% tactical
#114528 to #114527 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
She was also an adviser for John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign and the republican nominee for California senator (she lost) in 2010. Also, I've heard that nearly all of Silicon Valley hates he, for whatever that's worth.
#114524 to #114522 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Tactical vagina
#114519 - pebar
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Cruz announces Fiorina as his running mate
#114523 to #114519 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Well Stephen Crowder will be happy.
#114526 to #114523 - pebar
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(04/27/2016) [-]
my thoughts exactly
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#114514 - Zaxplab
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(04/27/2016) [-]
You had a good run, Cruzy Boy
#114516 to #114514 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Did he drop?
#114520 to #114516 - Zaxplab
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(04/27/2016) [-]
He might as well
#114521 to #114520 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I saw he can only win it by taking it to the convention. It's not lookin too good for him.
#114504 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Cruz to make "big" announcement at 4pm according to newsmax.
#114507 to #114504 - unforgivensoul
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Hopefully he drops out




















of a skyscraper
#114492 - drastronomy ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Trump foreign policy thread

Anyone else watch the speech?
The based alpha annihalates the concept of globalism
#114531 to #114492 - figatron ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
The last time protectionism was this popular the Great Depression happened.
#114529 to #114492 - pebar
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(04/27/2016) [-]
#114499 to #114492 - kanadetenshi
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(04/27/2016) [-]
No better than the other neocons.
#114480 - anon
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(04/27/2016) [-]
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36139169

The Turkish military has a history of staging coups when the civilian government becomes too Theocratic. I really hope that they act soon.
#114482 to #114480 - thumbfortrump
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I wonder what a potential coup would mean for their NATO membership.
#114455 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
theism on suicidewatch
#114489 to #114455 - unforgivensoul
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Judging by his life, I'd say he's always on suicide watch.
#114483 to #114455 - thumbfortrump
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(04/27/2016) [-]
just put on hide all
#114476 to #114455 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
No, Europe is just garbage.
#114477 to #114476 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
not an argument
#114478 to #114477 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
You have never made a single argument.
#114479 to #114478 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
look at my comps
#114456 to #114455 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
National IQ hits record low. Chinese to colonize America by 2020.
#114457 to #114456 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
>National IQ hits record low.
Did Commiefornia import mulsim ¨¨¨¨¨¨refurgies¨¨¨¨¨?
#114458 to #114457 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Nah, there's rumors you might be immigrating.
#114459 to #114458 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Aiming for Utah.

If you do kill yourself, plz do it there so i can see it live
#114460 to #114459 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I'm going to blow up your windmill and shit on your tulips.
#114461 to #114460 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Im so scared of your feel the burn flower power.
Imma get myself a glock with a high capacity magazine.
And something bigger, but I'd have to look into it a tad more.
#114462 to #114461 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I'm gonna kick over your dyke and your shitty valley country's going to flood.
#114463 to #114462 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
im gonna put bacon in your quran and make drawings of muhamad
#114464 to #114463 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I heard in Europe that gets you killed. Bet you wish you had proper freedoms.
#114465 to #114464 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Dont worry lad, we are growing stronger.
You'll wake up in your pedo-sandpit soon enough
#114466 to #114465 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
So you're going to bring your inability to assimilate foreigners here?
#114467 to #114466 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
wut?
#114468 to #114467 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
The US has been assimilating foreigners for 2 and a half centuries. The past few years proves that you Eurotrash suck cock at it.
#114469 to #114468 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
You have been assimilating people, we got subhuman garbage
#114470 to #114469 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Lotta muslims in the US. You're just mad cuz your bad.
#114471 to #114470 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
you know the percentage game
2% is fine
5% things start to look bad
10% they want special privlileges
.....
#114472 to #114471 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Deal with it. Just because you're country's a few brownies away from being a failed state doesn't make it anyone else's problem.
#114473 to #114472 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
we gonna deal with it, just gotta wait till Trump kicks out Obongo
#114474 to #114473 - theism
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Trump isn't gonna be there to fix your problems. Sort your own shit Eurotrash.
#114475 to #114474 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Hold up,

are you that Chunck Yoghurt from the young turkadurka's?
Because you are acting like Chunck Yoghurt from the young turkadurka's
#114451 - woozuh
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(04/27/2016) [-]
SWEEPING VICTORY
#114449 - shekelnator
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#114406 - anon
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#114453 to #114406 - thumbfortrump
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I only know Milo, and I don't even like him.
#114506 to #114453 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Metokur is internet aristocrat. He's not all preachy like the rest. He just makes fun of them
#114509 to #114506 - thumbfortrump
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Nice. I greatly dislike people who make a living of critiquing politics.
#114510 to #114509 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
He likes to stream during terrorist attacks and chimpouts. He watched San Bernardino and Paris as they happened. Shit was great. Plus he makes $0 from ads and donations. Only problem is he only makes videos when he feels like it.
#114416 to #114406 - aceofshadows
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(04/27/2016) [-]
ok
#114415 to #114406 - unforgivensoul
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(04/27/2016) [-]
TLDR - who cares/10
Sargon of Akkad - 3/10
Boxxy - 10/10 don't talk shit
Molenyeueux or whatever - 7/10
Professor whatever - 5/10
TJ - 5/10
Mister Metokur - 10/10
Milo - 8/10
Pornstar or whatever - ew/10
#114513 to #114415 - anon
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Black pigeon speaks.
/10
#114505 to #114415 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Giving Stephen molawhatever a high score

Opinion discarded
#114534 to #114505 - mixednuts
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(04/28/2016) [-]
It's Stephen Mommy Issues.
#114535 to #114534 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/28/2016) [-]
It's Stephen "Do you want the government to shoot you?" Mommy Issues
#114425 to #114415 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Is TJ the banana-coffee atheist?
#114426 to #114425 - unforgivensoul
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(04/27/2016) [-]
yeah, for him I meant 3/10***
#114450 to #114426 - lotengo
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(04/27/2016) [-]
How can you give him a solid 3?
His name alone makes that he can't score higher than a 1,4
#114412 to #114406 - pebar
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(04/27/2016) [-]
they are, though
#114394 - canyou ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Fuck
#114419 to #114394 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(04/27/2016) [-]
Naughty By Nature  Here Comes The Money
#114402 to #114394 - pebar
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(04/27/2016) [-]
I know
#114396 to #114394 - unforgivensoul
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#114395 to #114394 - unforgivensoul
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(04/27/2016) [-]
you
#114397 to #114395 - unforgivensoul
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(04/27/2016) [-]
retard
#114481 to #114397 - canyou ONLINE
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