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#60007 - feelythefeel (03/20/2014) [-]
I'm in a socials class that's focusing on WWI for a bit, this is literally all I hear. Either Canada used to be a country of Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee love-childs, or something's off here.
#60000 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/20/2014) [-]
Guys, listen carefully.
Probably you don't understand how it works. The jews are behind the USA. The jews are behind India. The jews are behind Ukraine. The jews are behind Russia. The jews are behind whatever the fuck happens. They are behind the fucking first and second world war. They are behind Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. They are behind their own fucking holocaust. They are behind the cold war. They are behind the inquisition. They are behind the crusades. They are behind the wars in Iraq. They are behind the war in Afghanistan. They are behind the fucking war in Syria. They are behind China, Palestine, Italy, Australia, Madagascar, Sri Lanka and even behind fucking Bhutan. They are behind Coca-Cola Company and behind McDonald's. They are behind Pepsi and Burger King. They are behind the landing on the moon. The 9/11. The tsunami in Japan. They are behind the fucking Nazis.
User avatar #60008 to #60000 - feelythefeel (03/20/2014) [-]
If the Jews are really behind everything, what's the point of caring? It's not like we can do anything about it anyways.
User avatar #60027 to #60008 - teoragnar (03/21/2014) [-]
JIDF plz go
User avatar #60046 to #60027 - feelythefeel (03/21/2014) [-]
I only heard about that website not a month ago.
User avatar #60048 to #60046 - teoragnar (03/21/2014) [-]
How many shekels did they payed you?
User avatar #60051 to #60048 - feelythefeel (03/21/2014) [-]
9001 but that's besides the point.
User avatar #60019 to #60008 - schnizel (03/21/2014) [-]
Never give up.
User avatar #60020 to #60019 - feelythefeel (03/21/2014) [-]
It's kinda like the Matrix. Assuming that it's the case, is it really worth knowing?
User avatar #60021 to #60020 - schnizel (03/21/2014) [-]
Yes.
#60003 to #60000 - pebar (03/20/2014) [-]
The Jews are behind the nazis   
   
schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel   
You must rebut this
The Jews are behind the nazis

schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel schnizel
You must rebut this
User avatar #60005 to #60004 - pebar (03/20/2014) [-]
tl;dr
#59998 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/20/2014) [-]
#59995 - alimais (03/20/2014) [-]
Story time:
Some facts about crimean attorney Natalia Poklonskaya you may probably not know.
Natalia is 33 years old crimean attorney. She seems a real good girl: she plays piano and draws, probably she attended music and art school in her childhood.
Natalia worked as attorney for 12 years, according to her own words, and just sometime ago her workplace was in Kiev, in main attorney office of Ukraine. I don't know much about attorney's job in western countries, but in ex-USSR countries attorney's work is very significant: they take part in investigations, act as accusers in courts, collect petitions from citizens and check if police and courts maintain the laws. People often think they are more trustworthy than police and judges.
Her career seems very successful and productive for me. She tells about numerous criminals and gangs she sent to jail. Her most well known enemy was "bashmaki" gang, one of the biggest and strongest gangs in Ukraine, famous for their criminal wars, for using RPG (and missing, destroying some unrelated building by mistake), jailbreaks, murders of police, former "alpha" (russian analogue of SWAT) members and hundreds of another crimes. Her current rank is called "adviser of justice".
#59996 to #59995 - alimais (03/20/2014) [-]
During the events in Kiev, she was working in main attorney office in Kiev. She is the witness of Maidan and her harsh words about new ukrainian goverment should be considered along with any other evidencies, because she saw everything with her own eyes.
After the putsch in Kiev, she left attorney office and returned to Crimea. Crimean council of ministers offered her to take over a post of crimean attorney and she accepted it. It happened several days before referendum. After her new appointment she recieved a letter from Kiev with a notification, that she's no longer attorney and adviser of justice, Kiev started investigation of her actions and even tried to ruin her reputation, but could only found some fotos you can now see everywhere. They are pretty usual photos every beautiful woman should have, but officials in Kiev called it "ribald" and acted histerically. Probably they just couldn't find anything dirty about her at all.
Just after referendum another provocation happened. Ukrainian soldier and crimean man were killed by some unknown person. According to Natalia's words it's very similar to killer, who shot people on Maidan and acted as a calamity trigger to Kiev. Now she's hunting him and preventing bloodshed and chaos in Simferopol. Maybe she's even saving our lives right now.
User avatar #59963 to #59962 - pebar (03/20/2014) [-]
That just goes to show how efficient state run economies are. Perhaps one day we will learn from their example.
User avatar #59965 to #59963 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
Tots maybe one day we too will visit the sun at night.
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User avatar #59991 to #59961 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
I am not surprised that they will violate the rules anymore.
#59955 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/20/2014) [-]
Schnitzel is a toe headed fart bag elevator cum-quat.
#59950 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
I wish schnizel would stop posting the same damn 5 or so pictures he uses whenever he comments or replies to something.
#59986 to #59950 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
I don't have many pictures.
So which one should I post.
User avatar #59993 to #59986 - johnstuartmill (03/20/2014) [-]
Just Google search "Reaction Pic/Gif of 'Whatever you think fits'" Sooner or later you will have a good collection of reaction pictures.
#59951 to #59950 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
#59952 to #59951 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
#59949 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
Do you personally recognize the Armenian genocide?
User avatar #59973 to #59949 - endercrew (03/20/2014) [-]
I recognize it, but the Armenians deserved it for betraying the Turks by siding with the Russkies
User avatar #59987 to #59973 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Fuck no Russia strong and fuck Turkey.
User avatar #59972 to #59949 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Yes.
#59954 to #59949 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/20/2014) [-]
No such thing, mate.
#59956 to #59954 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/20/2014) [-]
Turk pls go.
#59921 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
What don't you like about national socialism?
User avatar #60016 to #59921 - Shiny ONLINE (03/21/2014) [-]
Buzzwords over reasoning.
User avatar #60018 to #60016 - Shiny ONLINE (03/21/2014) [-]
Well, it seems to be based mostly on a belief system with little, if any regard for pragmatism. I've seen no answers for economics, education, etc, just emotional appeals and persecutory delusions that lead me to believe that fascism is inherently wrong if conspiracy theories are also wrong.
User avatar #60017 to #60016 - schnizel (03/21/2014) [-]
Explain.
User avatar #59943 to #59921 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
I'm syryus guys why?
User avatar #59997 to #59943 - teoragnar (03/20/2014) [-]
Cuz shit got weird.
User avatar #59947 to #59943 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
because you think a few people are able to design a society
User avatar #59971 to #59947 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
And by design a society you mean what?
User avatar #59999 to #59971 - pebar (03/20/2014) [-]
it's exactly what it sounds like
User avatar #60001 to #59999 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Explain design to a designer or explain why you don't like the colors of your flag?
User avatar #59969 to #59947 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
You are talking to a graphic designer...
User avatar #59968 to #59947 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Because I think a few people are able to design a car?
#59939 to #59921 - jadewest (03/19/2014) [-]
the fact it was actually a plot by the jewish reptile aliens to take over the world and cause 9/11
#59941 to #59939 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
/pol/ was right.
User avatar #59936 to #59921 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
It got pretty weird.
User avatar #59925 to #59921 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
da gob'mint
User avatar #59928 to #59925 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Hwat?
User avatar #59932 to #59928 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
איך טאָן ניט ווי די רעגירונג.
User avatar #59935 to #59932 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
זיי טאָן ניט ווי איר אָדער
User avatar #59930 to #59928 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
Government.
User avatar #59931 to #59930 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Why?
User avatar #59938 to #59931 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
I was just telling what "da gob'mint" meant, but I'm not a fan of autocracy myself. Other I don't like include: racial discrimination, chauvinism and suppression of criticism towards the state.
User avatar #59953 to #59942 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
Diversity?
r u srs?
You always post that one pic bashing multiculturalism that says "multiculturalism teaches that these groups are 100% compatible"
User avatar #59966 to #59953 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
No, no, for each to have their own country, and their own culture is good, but not to get them to be in one city, all at once in a melting pot.
User avatar #59988 to #59966 - pebar (03/20/2014) [-]
So you really don't want diversity
User avatar #59989 to #59988 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Diveristy yes, but multikulty no.
User avatar #59990 to #59989 - pebar (03/20/2014) [-]
You don't even like race mixing..... there is no diversity
#59940 to #59938 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
>racial discrimination
What?
>chauvinism
It's natural. But you should not be blinded by it.
> suppression of criticism towards the state
When it's displayed with assasination and sabotage it's not criticism.
User avatar #59944 to #59940 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
> I don't support any kind of racial / ethnic discrimination;
> Chauvinism is sort of blind patriotism itself;
> Yeah... true.
User avatar #59960 to #59944 - endercrew (03/20/2014) [-]
You can be a Nazi and not be racist. The ideology is perfect compatible without racism. Best example: Erwin Rommel
Also, Socialists and Nazis can be friends, it really depends however if both have a common enemy, I.E. capitalism.
User avatar #59992 to #59960 - jewishcommunazi (03/20/2014) [-]
I doubt Rommel was a nazi, he wasn't fond of Hitler.

"Also, Socialists and Nazis can be friends, it really depends however if both have a common enemy, I.E. capitalism."

But in that case, socialists and capitalists could be friends by having nazis as a common enemy, or nazis and capitalists, by having socialists as a common enemy.
User avatar #59967 to #59960 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Well, Hitler admired how the communists want to take care of their people but don't know how, but he admired how the capitalists can bring up so much money but they didn't help their nation much.
User avatar #59945 to #59944 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Loving blondes does not make me hate redheads.
Chauvinism is fighting with broken teeth with no chance of survival and still looking good. It's a kind way of saying I'm never giving up and I will crush you under my feet.
#59899 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
ask a goy anything
User avatar #60015 to #59899 - feelythefeel (03/21/2014) [-]
Why do you hate white aryan national-socialist conservative supremacists? We're actually cool guys once you get to know our bullets us.
#59900 to #59899 - itwasrealinmymind (03/19/2014) [-]
have u checked ur privilege?
have u checked ur privilege?
#59901 to #59900 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
no, next question
#59902 to #59901 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
#59892 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
Jokes that teach economics - David Friedman
User avatar #59890 - endercrew (03/19/2014) [-]
Schnitzel, I'm coming out clean, I ain't an autocrat. I'm actually a socialist who just knows a shitload about Facism and Nazism.
User avatar #59894 to #59890 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Well, fascism is roman imperialism and socialism, and national socialism is socialism with nationalism.
So we are pretty close.
User avatar #59896 to #59894 - endercrew (03/19/2014) [-]
Right, I don't get where people say we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
User avatar #59926 to #59896 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
They are on the same "side" of the spectrum but are ideological enemies.
While fascism supports nationalistic socialism (a classless equal nation above everything), socialism supports the idea of international Marxism ,ergo a classless united nationalism-abolishing world.
communism = international socialism
fascism = national socialism
User avatar #59946 to #59926 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
Fascism is a class system based on private property just like burgeois democracies are, they just attempt to make 'improvements', but burgeois democracies also do that, they just have to be pressured.
#59948 to #59929 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
You know, the pic is starting to lose all meaning.
User avatar #59970 to #59948 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Because I use it to much?
User avatar #59897 to #59896 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
In short:
Socialism -> usually very revolutionary;
Fascism -> usually very reactionary.
User avatar #59907 to #59897 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
A problem: Nazis aren't really that reactionary since it is movement, it is only reactionary in the sense of going back to germanic values.
The Weimar reactionism is more about loyality to the german kings and nobles and especially the Kaiser.
User avatar #59919 to #59907 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Good ol Kaiser.
We were in summer camp together.
User avatar #59922 to #59919 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
Then you would have to be older than 150 years.
User avatar #59923 to #59922 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
I'm 8000 years old.
Take that Bible
User avatar #59924 to #59923 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
Yeah, I remember now, the Book of Schnizel.
User avatar #59927 to #59924 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
I am theSchnize thy chef ,
Thou shalt not have strange chefs before me.
Thou shalt not make thyself frozen fish
Thou shalt not take the name of the Schnizel in friday because he is playing Rome 2;
Remember to keep holy the no lag and low ping
Honour thy admin and moderators
Thou shalt not thumb down fresh OC
Thou shalt not commit repostery jk repost all y want
Thou shalt not steal. unless it's good
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy user. unless he does not lift
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's OC. if so then mention his name
Thou shalt lift every day.
User avatar #59933 to #59927 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
Okay I think I got it.
eat frozen fish, mention u every friday, have shitty internet, fuck admin, thumb down oc, steal and repost and no lfiting
User avatar #59934 to #59933 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Damn you Tucifer!
User avatar #59916 to #59907 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
I was more thinking of 'reactionary' by commie definition, nazists focus on racial, national, etc. supremacy struggles that go against socialism while denying class struggle.
User avatar #59903 to #59897 - jewishcommunazi (03/19/2014) [-]
Not to mention the submission to the state makes it automatically opposed to about half the trends of socialism.
User avatar #59911 to #59903 - teoragnar (03/19/2014) [-]
It's important to know that Nazism is a synthesis of socialism and nationalism, so of course the pure ideologies don't fit together.
User avatar #59898 to #59897 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Reactionary relovutionaries?
User avatar #59905 to #59904 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Schinzy is the impossible.
#59895 to #59891 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Daily reminder
A disorderly mob is no more na army than a heap of building materials is a house

- Socrates
User avatar #59974 to #59895 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
I assume you've never dropped an a bit of food on an ant hill.
User avatar #59976 to #59974 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
We are not ants, and speaking of ants did you know they had a queen?
User avatar #59977 to #59976 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
Ants are what a mob is. They are disorganized but have numbers, to disregard them as a threat, is to open yourself to be overrun as chaos overwhelms order.

Basic combat tactics.
User avatar #59978 to #59977 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
The entire Roman army laughs at you Vercingetorix.
User avatar #59979 to #59978 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
I'm sorry who sacked Rome again, over and over?
User avatar #59980 to #59979 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
Who conquered the Barbarians, once.
User avatar #59981 to #59980 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
*with Superior numbers, technology, experience, and training.

And who still got sacked?
User avatar #59982 to #59981 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
> Superior numbers
Nope
> technology
>experience, and training
Yes.
Roma soldiers were not as fit as you think they were. They became weak.
User avatar #59983 to #59982 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
>one tribe, vs an army
>tech
Better armor and steel, vs iron

Does it change the fact that when an trained army is thrown into chaos the mob will be the victor?
User avatar #59985 to #59983 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
And the barbarians attacked because Rome refused to give them any more money and they had Roman money to buy of gear and to buy more mercenaries.
#59984 to #59983 - schnizel (03/20/2014) [-]
>>one tribe, vs an army
>tech
Better armor and steel, vs iron

HANG THE FUCK ON
1. They were not a mob they were an army
2. Romans had many rebelions and they were put down with ease
3. Does it change the fact that when an trained army is thrown into chaos the mob will be the victor?
Heck the fuck on.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Hill_3234
Fucking hell they need discipline and organisation not just an order to CHARGE!
#59888 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2014) [-]
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26627236

Well damn.

There are a lot of areas in the former Soviet Union with significant populations of ethnic Russians. Hope nothing comes of that.
#59854 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/18/2014) [-]
So the Ruskies finally stormed one of the Ukrainian military bases in Simferopol.

So far one has been killed.


At least now the Fr.Self defence forces has got what they've waited for. Now shit will go down.
#59850 - revengeforfreeze (03/18/2014) [-]
Oy vey

Muh gologaust
#59845 - minibeep (03/18/2014) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29fKMrDmwg
america thinks russian millitary are pirates taking orders from nobody
#59844 - minibeep (03/18/2014) [-]
does US and EU repeatedly break the legal agreement with Russia about NATO expansion?
User avatar #59843 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
I just learned what's a free market.
An economy wrecker supported by a bunch of autists who don't know how it feels to be hungry.
User avatar #59876 to #59868 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
>implying big business wants less government
User avatar #59864 to #59843 - zameckis (03/18/2014) [-]
you sure have everything
what the human/world have done to you, to the point you despise almost anything?
i can't help but getting curious about it
User avatar #59871 to #59864 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
What?
User avatar #59872 to #59871 - zameckis (03/18/2014) [-]
forget it
User avatar #59873 to #59872 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
Write your comment, as I must rest from this madness pebar gave me.
Fucking hell, I feel like a fool for trusting him in the first place.
Damn you!
User avatar #59865 to #59864 - zameckis (03/18/2014) [-]
*hate
#59855 to #59843 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/18/2014) [-]
talking to yourself as ayn rand is weak
User avatar #59853 to #59843 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
Power of the Market - The Pencil The greatest improvement in the life of the ordinary man came from the free market.

You're just mad because you blew up all your infrastructure.
User avatar #59975 to #59853 - undeadwill (03/20/2014) [-]
Burn.
User avatar #59883 to #59853 - Shiny ONLINE (03/19/2014) [-]
Free market or just market? Because most right libertarians advocate economic policies that have never really existed; a "true" free market requires not only a lack of economic regulation, but for the state to bend over backwards to repeal any law that might have any impact on the economic status quo.
User avatar #59885 to #59883 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
The policies existed in the late 19th and early 20th century and during that time, the economy expanded faster than ever before.

There are some regulations that are useful that I don't think need to be gotten rid of I'm a bit more moderate than other libertarians but there are a lot of regulations that do nothing but keep out competition. This can either be by having ridiculously high standards for licencing, or simply by having complexity which keeps small businesses out of the market. A perfect example of this would be our tax code which contains many "loopholes" that only the rich can take advantage of and navigate so the rich have an unfair advantage.

As for the actual politics, you're right. This is why I don't pay as much attention to the behavior of politicians, because they're more interested in getting reelected than helping society; it's very depressing. Lately I've been more interested in learn economics so I can imagine how I would set things up if I were dictator of the world.
User avatar #59886 to #59885 - Shiny ONLINE (03/19/2014) [-]
Thing is that even then, SOME regulation always existed. Nations always had their tariffs, illegal contraband, etc, with state monopolies like the USPS and subsidies for valued markets, I assumed it went without saying that I wasn't defending the "regulation" that is literally passed to give a certain company an advantage, not even as an unfortunate externality.
User avatar #59887 to #59886 - pebar (03/19/2014) [-]
well... yeah... It was never pure but that time was the closest we've ever come.

If you mean regulation like a meat company can't sell anything rancid, then libertarians that I've heard talk about it would say those kinds of laws are unnecessary because no profit maximizing business would do that. They would lose customers immediately and go out of business.
Me personally, I'd be ok with some regulations as long as they were very lax, just so people wouldn't have to feel paranoid about getting poisoned or something.
User avatar #59889 to #59887 - Shiny ONLINE (03/19/2014) [-]
I'd like to think most political orientations advocate few regulations with small differences in between; the exceptions to these being full state socialism and corporatism/crony capitalism.
#59856 to #59853 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
Ok, first of all you guys know shit about infrastructure, you are unorganised and think that it's good that machines are taking over jobs man once did.
Second of all you want people to give their money into charity, and it's like people want to recieve charity. People want to work.
Third of all stop with that bullshit about the free market because:
The only difference between you and a socialist is that the socialist wants to help people in need, whether through necessity or a sense of morality, while you actively wish savagery to be visited upon the people least able to survive it. The net cost will be the same...if it's not, living standards decrease and the population will shrink through attrition.
Libertarianism is a philosophy advocated solely by people who couldn't make it through basic math.
User avatar #59866 to #59856 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
1. why should scare labor be wasted doing something a machine can do?
2. why do you think Africa is a shithole? inb4 blacks It's because it has too much charity and not enough investments in capital goods
3. socialists can't even feed their population. The productive capabilities that is released by the free market is more than enough to feed the population
User avatar #59870 to #59866 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
1.People have mouths to feed and kids to raise.
2.Blacks.
> too much charity
HANG ON JUST A SECOND, LAST NIGHT YOUR FELLOW FRIENDS TOLD ME THAT CHARITY IS A GOOD THING AND PEOPLE SHOULD FOCUS ON CHARITY TO THE MAXIMUM.
>3. socialists can't even feed their population. The productive capabilities that is released by the free market is more than enough to feed the population
The SFRJ laughs at your comment.
User avatar #59874 to #59870 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
I don't know if you're intentionally being thick, or if you genuinely believe people should be left in the dark ages because technology is a bad thing.
User avatar #59877 to #59874 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
I'm not saying that technology is bad but you have to think of the people and not replace 200 workers with 20 machines. You need to think about what makes humans human and that is hard work, once you take work from man he is nothing more than a fat blob (AKA consumer AKA typical american). A machine can never replace the perfection that is man.
#59857 to #59856 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
The free market is cancer.

The Founding Fathers knew the market only "worked" for those with power. Alexander Hamilton established the American School of Economics based on anti-free trade principles to protect the emerging US economy from British industry,
The American School turned the US into an economic superpower. The US decline began with the adoption of neoliberal, free market, economics.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics)
David Riccardo's argument for "comparative advantage" was blown out of the water by the Founding Father: Alexander Hamilton (he established the American School of Economics).
Hamilton recognized the US could not compete with British industry, so he sought to protect the US from free market competition.
I suggest you read "Report on Manufacturers".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_on_Manufactures
The founding fathers knew free trade was cancer.
It stopped the US from having to trade in the open markets with British industry. British industry was founded on free market principles, the Founding Fathers knew they could NOT compete. The British economy would destroy US industry before it had a chance to establish itself. The US under the American School of Economics, was protectionist and interventionist.
>these three core policies:
>1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
>2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
>3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics)
The American School was anti-free trade.
User avatar #59858 to #59857 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
Hamilton sounds like an idiot
User avatar #59859 to #59858 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
If so then I'm an alien from Nibiru.
The entire point of the free fucking market is for your own to be dominated by foreign companies as the bigger fish eats away the small ones and all you care about is money and all you can say is.
>HURR DURR HE REYTIRDED
User avatar #59867 to #59859 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
Milton Friedman - Imports, Exports & Exchange Rates I posted the wrong video; this was the one I wanted.
User avatar #59860 to #59859 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
Milton Friedman - Free Trade Vs Protectionism When you import, let's say from Japan, you use american dollars. The Japanese can't use dollars in Japan; they want the yen. Likewise when you export, American companies want dollars, not yen.
But where do the Japanese get the dollars that they spend on exports? The only way is to produce their own exports in exchange for dollars (imports from our POV).

Thus if you restrict imports with tariffs, you limit the number of dollars that the Japanese can spend on exports. So with tariffs, consumers are force to pay high prices from inferior goods and domestic jobs are lost that rely on exports.


There are not a lot of things that economists agree on but there is almost universal agreement that tariffs and restricting international trade is a bad idea.
User avatar #59862 to #59860 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
Please tell me that it's a good thing.
User avatar #59861 to #59860 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
My country was named after our river bosna, which comes from the illyrian word bosnoa which means fresh water, clean water, etc. imports more than 2 million worth of water every month.
Good old free market, eh pebar?
User avatar #59863 to #59861 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
Yes, it they didn't it sounds like you wouldn't have any water.
If it were cheaper to collect water from your river, they would do that. But it obviously is not so people must import.
User avatar #59869 to #59863 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
>Yes, it they didn't it sounds like you wouldn't have any water.
*smashes head again the wall and walks the dinosaur*
>If it were cheaper to collect water from your river, they would do that. But it obviously is not so people must import.
*smashes head again the wall and walks the dinosaur again*
Do you even know how dumb you sound, I feel like a fool for trusting you in the first place.
User avatar #59880 to #59869 - johnstuartmill (03/18/2014) [-]
Your country obviously does not have enough water, thus they need to import it. I do not see how importing water into your country shows the fallacies of a free market system, but in fact shows the exact opposite. Country needs water so they buy from someone who has more water than they need.
User avatar #59881 to #59880 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
False, we have enough water to supply the entire continent.
User avatar #59882 to #59881 - johnstuartmill (03/18/2014) [-]
Then where does this demand come from? I assume we are talking about drinking water so then is the quality of your water substandard as to make people more willing to import fresher water?
I would refrain from attacking the free market on this ground because its obviously not because of "Better advertising". What's sweeter than honey? Free vinegar.
#59906 to #59893 - johnstuartmill (03/19/2014) [-]
This is probably the reason why you have issues understanding libertarian standpoints. I have replied to you with basic arguments as to why the issue may be something other than the free market, but you either give an inadequate reply without any context as to why my assumptions were false and when confronted more directly, you post a picture completely disregarding my points. Not saying this is a professional board but when you are in a debate at least ACT professional because this behavior asinine.
User avatar #59908 to #59906 - schnizel (03/19/2014) [-]
Tell, me please, what shall I do to fix the "water problem".
User avatar #59913 to #59908 - johnstuartmill (03/19/2014) [-]
As far as I'm concerned there is no "water problem". You have not proved there is one.
User avatar #59917 to #59915 - johnstuartmill (03/19/2014) [-]
Ok so after reading a few articles over importing water into Bosnia I see that the issue here is the water being imported is no for the sole purpose of drinking, but for a fashion statement as well. Somehow people thought it was fashionable to carry around foreign drinking water, probably because it means it is expensive and shows you have money, while they have exceptional drinking water all around them. In short I would chalk this up as "culture being weird".
User avatar #59875 to #59869 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
riddle me this:
why are people importing water if there's a river right there?
User avatar #59879 to #59875 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
And my dumb people think that the Croatians have got better water since they have a better ad.
User avatar #59878 to #59875 - schnizel (03/18/2014) [-]
Because our fucking goverment does not invest in us and because Croatians got a better advertisement with cool 3D stuff.
#59828 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/17/2014) [-]
Minimum wage was ruled unconstitutional in 1935, causing it to be abolished, only to be reinstated by executive order by FDR in 1939. Why hasn't it been repealed? It needs to be repealed, that way these basement dwelling neckbeards jacking off the MLP can get jobs and do something with their lives.
User avatar #59849 to #59828 - feelythefeel (03/18/2014) [-]
Yes, because more than half of America is the working class, and not a single one of them will just move to places like Canada to avoid slave wages and get paid three times as much. This is the same kind of reason why communism's honestly dead, it just isn't competitive practice.
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User avatar #59842 to #59828 - Shiny ONLINE (03/18/2014) [-]
"In 1941, the Supreme Court upheld it by a unanimous vote, in a decision written by a Republican Justice. Among legal experts, there is little real debate about the minimum wage's constitutionality."
#59831 to #59828 - pebar (03/18/2014) [-]
Repealed?   
On what grounds?   
The commerce clause?
Repealed?
On what grounds?
The commerce clause?
User avatar #59830 to #59828 - arisaka (03/18/2014) [-]
Yes, because paying people less is going to encourage them to work...
#59832 to #59830 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/18/2014) [-]
it encourages companies to hire
User avatar #59835 to #59832 - arisaka (03/18/2014) [-]
Then people will strike again because wages will be shit andoh my god we have a minimum wage again.

#59836 to #59835 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/18/2014) [-]
Having a lower legal minimum wage doesn't mean actual wages decrease....
User avatar #59837 to #59836 - arisaka (03/18/2014) [-]
The reason people fought for a minimum wage was because it was ridiculously low when there wasn't one. If companies will be more likely to hire people if they have to pay them less, then by all means, they will do so.

And either way dude, if they don't want to fucking work as it is what the hell makes you think just because someone might be willing to hire them for a shittier pay than before they'll jump at the oppertunity?
#59839 to #59837 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/18/2014) [-]
Would you hire someone without skills at $7.25 an hour? No. The cost to train them is too high. That is why you see job openings requiring experience. Abolish Minimum wage, and we can get people trained, and become skilled workers where they can move onto better paying positions.
User avatar #59884 to #59839 - billywonka (03/19/2014) [-]
What if we just added a clause saying that if someone does not have the required experience, it is legal to pay less than the minimum wage (which the employee would be made aware of) for a certain period of time or until the work was on par with others.
User avatar #60057 to #59884 - thatguyontheright (03/22/2014) [-]
Thats pretty sensible. Ok, but say Temps are allowed to be paid less than minimum, and you can be paid above minimum once you are trained and hired in...what would stop them from firing you so they don't hire you in? Use you like a tool and discard you later for a new model.
User avatar #60067 to #60057 - billywonka (03/22/2014) [-]
Couldn't that be solved by worker's unions?
User avatar #60071 to #60067 - thatguyontheright (03/22/2014) [-]
To allow employers to pay less than minimum, we'd have to bust the unions. which is why several right wing politicians are for busting unions.
#59838 to #59837 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/18/2014) [-]
Because some people aren't able to find work at the minimum wage, either because they have low skill, a bad reputation, or are unfortunate enough to be in a group that's discriminated against.
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