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#115030 - kanadetenshi
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(05/04/2016) [-]
#115029 - canyou
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Oh god Shapiro and Milo are having a twitter war over Trump. It's really awkward for me for some reason. I feel like Shapiro is just throwing a tantrum.
#115022 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36191546

What do you think about Google having access to encrypted patient records?
#115028 to #115022 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
even though thats the UK
#115026 to #115022 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
google has the about the same about of power as the NSA

other countries probably think theyre the same thing at this point
#115016 - canyou
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Yeah...
#115017 to #115016 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
what?
#115018 to #115017 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
with cruz u luze
#115021 to #115018 - anon
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(05/03/2016) [-]
WITH BEN YOU CAN

VOTE 4 FAT BEN'S POOP
#115019 to #115018 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I don't really care about that. I'm pretty sure Trump will lose to Hillary anyway.
#115024 to #115019 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
im a democrat but given the choices in both parties at this point drawing a dick on the ballot isnt really throwing away a vote
#115025 to #115024 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I think Clinton is the lesser of two evils but I really don't like her.
#115035 to #115025 - pebar
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(05/04/2016) [-]
vote 3rd party in protest
#115124 to #115035 - redandgreen
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(05/04/2016) [-]
I don't actually get a vote anyway.....
#115027 to #115025 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
yea im probably gonna unwillingly vote for hillary as well
#115077 to #115027 - youregaylol
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Heh, you'll serve the woman who humiliated bernie. I called this awhile back, all of the anti establishment talk from the left was just bullshit.

A liberal will always be weak, and bernie bros are the weakest of the weak as evidenced by their bowing down to shillary.
#115093 to #115077 - PopcornViking
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(05/04/2016) [-]
unforgivensoul disagrees with a decent amount of what I say but he can vouch for me here
#115119 to #115093 - unforgivensoul
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(05/04/2016) [-]
I'm not vouching for shit. You're an idiot, evidenced by every single argument I've had with you. And now that you just confessed to voting for Hillary, I'm respect for you has literally fallen to 0. That's a fucking milestone of an accomplishment buddy. You fucking retard.

#115127 to #115119 - PopcornViking
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(05/04/2016) [-]
thanks babe <3
#115092 to #115077 - PopcornViking
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(05/04/2016) [-]
I never ranted about the establishment nor did I say I was really feeing the bern
#115023 to #115019 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
yea pretty much
#115020 to #115019 - canyou
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(05/03/2016) [-]
My thoughts exactly
#115001 - marinepenguin
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I'll be graduating from training two weeks from tomorrow and be home the next day, first thing on my list is to get my FOID card fuck Illinois and buy a few rifles.
#115007 to #115001 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Congratulations Is that from the army?

What's a FOID card?
#115013 to #115007 - marinepenguin
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I'm Air Force Security forces. So the equivalent of Military Police/ Base defense.

And FOID stands for Firearm Owner Identification. Basically a way for Illinois to keep track of who has guns and what guns they have. It's pretty invasive and a lot of people hate it.
#115014 to #115013 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Oh, right. Good for you.
#115015 to #115014 - marinepenguin
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Thanks, I'm ready to get the hell out of Texas and off this base.
#115003 to #115001 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I suggest leaving that god forsaken state
#115004 to #115003 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
unless you are studying economics at the university of chicago in which case you should stay
#115012 to #115004 - PopcornViking
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(05/03/2016) [-]
i have a friend who goes to northwestern which isnt bad
#115005 to #115004 - marinepenguin
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(05/03/2016) [-]
The only reason I haven't is because I live in a little piece of religious conservative heaven in a rural area where we don't consider ourselves a part of places like Chicago.

In most states military members only need to show their government ID to get access to firearms, but in Illinois everyone needs a FOID card, even if you live outside of Illinois, you have to have a FOID card just to transport your weapons through the state.

Also,most people in my town blatantly disregard firearm laws, and fully automatic weapons with drum magazines are not common.
#115006 to #115005 - marinepenguin
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Not uncommon*
#115036 to #115006 - whoozy
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Sounds dangerous

Firearms is fun at the shooting range, but stuff like this make me glad only hunting weapons is allowed here (if you have a license).
#115043 to #115036 - marinepenguin
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Well, the last death from a firearm in my town was a well over 150 years ago if that tells you anything. People around here are good with firearms.
#115044 to #115043 - whoozy
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(05/04/2016) [-]
That's fine and all. I just don't trust your average Joe with a deathstick.

Besides if that really is the case why would you even need fully automatic weapons?
#115046 to #115044 - marinepenguin
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Depends. Country people who have respect for them, I don't mind owning at all. My entire immediate family has probably over 100 guns to our name. Mostly cattle ranchers.

And to me it isn't a matter of "needing" one. There are many deadly items that are legal that no one needs to the degree that we have them, the fact is that our 2nd amendment gives us the right to self preservation through the use of firearms, and in a free society if people decide to spend their money on stockpiling weaponry for self-defense from criminals or in the worst case scenario an abusive government entitiy , then they have that right. In the most likely of cases, would I personally have to use a fully automatic firearm, or a firearm at all, to defend myself from a criminal or the government? I would say no, but if the time ever came and I was unable to defend myself, the consequences would be far greater.
#115047 to #115046 - whoozy
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(05/04/2016) [-]
I don't have that much trust in people. It's fine if you do, but I just don't.

There's a difference between items that CAN be used to kill and items that are made to kill.
A kitchen knife is a tool that can be used as weapon. Thats is not really an argument for giving people automatic rifles with drum magazines.

The rest of your post sounds a bit like paranoia, but if that's your opinion so be it. I just don't see how giving everyone the means to kill will stop violence.

#115051 to #115047 - marinepenguin
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Intention to kill or not, a knife, car, or blunt object is just as able to kill someone as a weapon is. Violent people will find ways to inflict harm on innocent people whether there are weapons available or not.

And paranoia would imply delusion influenced by fear or anxiety. I'm not fearful of government, I just recognize that there are many times in where a government has acted outside its people's interests, and in some cases directly against it. A disarmed people is a helpless people when the government is armed and using force. You may call it paranoia, but when you act as though such an event couldn't happen in modern day appears to me as naivety.
#115054 to #115051 - whoozy
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(05/04/2016) [-]
We already talked about this. The fact that everything can be used as a weapon is not an argument for giving people automatic rifles. That's as if I were to argue I should own a nuclear bomb because rocks can kill people.

It could happen sure. Remember operation Northwood? Or this for that matter.
uk.businessinsider.com/the-military-tested-bacterial-weapons-in-san-francisco-2015-7?r=US&IR=T

The goverment has suggested or even done a lot of creepy stuff already, but nobody's rising up against them. Nobody can.

What chance are a bunch of disorganised civilians armed with small arms going to do to the most powerful government in the world? Armed revolution made sense when the constitution was written. It no longer does imo.
#115062 to #115054 - marinepenguin
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Meh that's arguing along with the slippery slope. The reality is most people can't afford much more than an automatic weapon, which those can go for thousands of dollars. Even cannons were rare in revolutionary times, and were worth small fortunes. I'm not saying people should own grenade launcher and RPGs, but they wouldn't be able to get their hands on them 99% of the time anyways.

And of course a bunch of rebelling citizens wouldn't be able to take on the US military in terms of Force on Force. Very few revolutions have ever succeeded using those tactics. A rebellion would be a guerilla war using mostly sabatoge. The US military is unbeatable in terms of conventional warfare, but a weakened US military fighting it's own people, on its own land, in a prolonged war of attrition where it has no advantages of conventional warfare wouldn't have the rebellion needing tanks, aircraft, or a navy to win.

To say that even a million US citizens rebelling against the government wouldn't be a massive drain on the US military and the nations resources and cause them to seek peace through political reform is once again, naivety.
#115000 - whitechino
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I love guns so much I like the tips before I polish them.
#115002 to #115000 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
what gun is your favorite?
#115064 to #115002 - whitechino
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(05/04/2016) [-]
The one with two wheels and I and four other guys can fit in.
#114998 - anon
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(05/03/2016) [-]
youtu.be/QNNdfrcgQDY

Interesting video on possible WW3.
#114994 - feelythefeel
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I'm thinking of identifying as a National Populist, if only to avoid some of the stigma of National Socialism. They're essentially the same, right?
#115255 to #114994 - drastronomy
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(05/05/2016) [-]
Fucking finally
Thats what i have been saying to you faggots since 2013
#115008 to #114994 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I think you should be proud of your beliefs and tell everyone you're a National Socialist.
#115031 to #115008 - kanadetenshi
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Nazis deserve to have their lifestyle being accepted and tolerated. #StopthBullying #EqualityforNazis
#115122 to #115031 - redandgreen
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(05/04/2016) [-]
Yeah
#115010 to #115008 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
>>#114994, Mom, Dad....
I've been holding it in for a long time but it's finally time for me to come out of the closet.

*deep breath*
I'm a nazi
#115011 to #115010 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
lol yes, exactly like that
#114995 to #114994 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
you might as well identity as a social democrat
policies are almost the same, there's no stigma

you just happen to have a nazi fetish
#114989 - shekelnator
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(05/03/2016) [-]
GIF
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Through its Conflict and Stability Fund the [UK] government is spending £2.4m on private contractors working from Istanbul to deliver “strategic communications and media operations support to the Syrian moderate armed opposition” (MAO).

The contract is part of a broader propaganda effort focused on Syria, with other elements intended to promote “the moderate values of the revolution” and help mould a Syrian sense of national identity that will reject both the Assad regime and Isis.

The documents call for contractors to “select and train a spokesman able to represent all the MAO groups as a single unified voice”, as well as providing media coaching to “influential MAO officials” and running a round-the-clock “MAO central media office” with “media production capacity”. One British source with knowledge of the contracts in action said the government was essentially running a “Free Syrian army press office”.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/03/how-britain-funds-the-propaganda-war-against-isis-in-syria
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#114990 to #114989 - shekelnator
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(05/03/2016) [-]
An InCoStrat spokesman confirmed: “InCoStrat is providing media and communication support to the moderate Syrian opposition to assist Syrians to better convey the reality of war and those involved in it.”

Both emphasised the close supervision of the work by the British government. An insider also described “tremendous oversight”, with handlers from the FCO and MoD meeting contractors up to three times a week. “They had the last say in everything,” the source said.

Much of the material produced under these contracts is day-to-day wartime propaganda, aimed at Syrian civilian and military audiences. It includes bulletins of successful military engagements, or videos of opposition fighters handing out food.

Some media, however, serve an additional military purpose, two sources familiar with the projects said. For example, a video of a shoulder-to-air missile shooting down a regime helicopter signals to those inside Syria that the group is well-armed and effective. But it also sends a message to those arming the group. “That’s good PR to go back to the Pentagon,” the insider said.

An MoD spokeswoman emphasised that the groups the UK supports are moderate. But identifying which groups really are is fraught with risk, as they can commit unpalatable acts or ally with groups considered unacceptably extremist.
#114991 to #114990 - shekelnator
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Contractors hired by the Foreign Office but overseen by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) produce videos, photos, military reports, radio broadcasts, print products and social media posts branded with the logos of fighting groups, and effectively run a press office for opposition fighters.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/03/how-britain-funds-the-propaganda-war-against-isis-in-syria

THIS IS HUGE
#114996 to #114991 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
do you have a problem with anti ISIS propaganda?
#114999 to #114996 - shekelnator
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Fund and Oppose it is what is the problem.
#114992 to #114991 - secretlygay
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#114987 - anon
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#114986 - anon
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#114985 - anon
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Click to show spoiler
Wanna hear a joke?

National Socialism
#114980 - anon
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(05/03/2016) [-]
#114982 to #114977 - Elk
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Trump is consistently doing better in polls than he was last year. Who's to say that things won't get even better?
#114950 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
abortion is actively dealing with the problem

why does pro-life rhetoric say that people should have personal responsibility, as if that's relevant
#114974 to #114950 - theplanetearth
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(05/03/2016) [-]
You must really hate niggers.
#114988 to #114974 - anon
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(05/03/2016) [-]
They are subhuman filth
#114978 to #114974 - anon
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Autism
#114971 to #114950 - theism
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(05/03/2016) [-]
The 13th ammendment forbids forcing people into involuntary labor. So abortion is constitutionally protected.
#114979 to #114971 - canyou
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Lol
#114976 to #114971 - marinepenguin
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Possibly one of the better abortion jokes I've seen.
#114972 to #114971 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
it says involuntary servitude
#114973 to #114972 - theism
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(05/03/2016) [-]
They're cinnamons.
#114965 to #114950 - unforgivensoul
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(05/03/2016) [-]
GIF
a social safety net is actively dealing with the problem

why does pro-libertarian rhetoric say people should have personal responsibility, as if that's relevant

#114966 to #114965 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
touche
#114952 to #114950 - whitechino
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Because what we do with the fetus is unethical. They push abortion more than both control only for baby by the pound.
#114957 to #114952 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I'm very certain it's not pushed as a primary birth control because it can get very expensive and you can't have sex for a month or so after the abortion
#115009 to #114957 - redandgreen
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(05/03/2016) [-]
It's quite a serious procedure, especially if done later, and repeated abortions can permanently damage your cervix. People who claim it's pushed for and similar claims don't seem to understand it.
#114961 to #114957 - whitechino
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Dems push abortion for $$$, reps don't push abortion but don't want birth control. You can easily get stem cells from your face and other parts of your body, but as soon as people figure that out the the supply will exceed demand and the price will go down. It's just a game and unlucky women are the pawns.
#114963 to #114961 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
fetal stem cells are very different from other types of stem cells
there's been a lot of scientific research to create more versatile stem cells, but fetal cells are till the gold standard

and it makes no sense to peg women as victims when they voluntarily do it to themselves
#114967 to #114963 - whitechino
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Woman can do whatever the fuck they want, but if you give someone the option to not take responsibility, make them pay, and sell the little nigga, that's kinda fucked up... To me
#114969 to #114967 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
it may be fucked up, but it's still taking responsibility nonetheless
that's my point
#114970 to #114969 - whitechino
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Sure, a couple thousand to say fuck it. That's some good responsibility only a parent can teach.
#114951 to #114950 - Elk
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(05/03/2016) [-]
What? People's problem with abortion is that it's essentially killing a baby.
#114954 to #114951 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Yes, I get that's the argument. But they also claim that it's a personal responsibility issue.
That part I don't get.
#114955 to #114954 - Elk
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(05/03/2016) [-]
For the most part, they're not taking personal responsibility by using birth control. Why should they be able to wipe out a life when it was created by their recklessness?
#114958 to #114955 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
what if they did use birth control
the problem still happened; now they have to fix the problem
#114959 to #114958 - Elk
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Personally, I'm not against it in that instance, but they still could give it up for adoption. There are plenty of parents who would love to have a child who are struggling to get one.
#114960 to #114959 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
except there aren't plenty of parents who would love to adopt
there's actually a huge shortage of them

kids in the system don't have great lives
it's very tragic
#114962 to #114960 - Elk
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(05/03/2016) [-]
I didn't mean plenty as in a surplus. I just meant that there are people who want to adopt. Obviously, there aren't going to be a ton of them because most people can have their own children.

I never said they lived well. Who is bringing up irrelevant information now?
#114964 to #114962 - pebar
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(05/03/2016) [-]
you're the one who brought up adoption

you said there are plenty of people
that statement is factually wrong
#114968 to #114964 - Elk
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(05/03/2016) [-]
Yeah, because it's relevant to the topic. I just exaggerated, but the "irrelevant" line was supposed to be a playful jab. It sounded more playful in my head. I'm pretty tired. Sorry.
#114934 - effort
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(05/02/2016) [-]
I'm pretty layman when it comes to socioeconomic ideas. So, I was wondering if there are any other recommended books, to help build a fundamental understanding of socioeconomics? Specifically differentiating capitalism, socialism, libertarian, authotarian, classical liberalism, left liberalism, corporatism and etc. Would also be a plus if the books included some real life examples.

Currently reading, A Theory of Capitalism and Socialism. Looking to read, Why Not Capitalism and Confessions of an Economic Hit Man after this.
#114938 to #114934 - pebar
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(05/02/2016) [-]
Free to Choose by Milton Friedman

Great read; easy to understand
#114937 to #114934 - unforgivensoul
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(05/02/2016) [-]
The Road to Serfdom - Hayek, good read
#114883 - canyou
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(05/02/2016) [-]
I wonder if Cruz will keep his end of the deal with Kasich if he loses Indiana? Will he really back off of Oregon? Or will he try to go for it too?

Either way, losing Indiana will most likely be the nail in the coffin
#114956 to #114883 - asotil
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(05/03/2016) [-]
They both already went back on it so my guess is it's already fucked
#114895 to #114883 - seniorawesomesauce
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(05/02/2016) [-]
According to Paul Manafort, last tuesday was the final nail in the coffin, and Indiana is when Cruz realizes he's in it.
#114901 to #114895 - canyou
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(05/02/2016) [-]
Cruz is already a spooky skeleton
#114929 to #114901 - thumbfortrump
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(05/02/2016) [-]
not that spoopy

he did create lots of spooky skeleton tho
#114881 - seniorawesomesauce
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(05/02/2016) [-]
>"Hillary will destroy Donald Trump in the General Election"
>"B-but Bernie Sanders is the only one that can beat Donald Trump"

>"Ted Cruz is the only that can beat Hillary Clinton in the General Election"
>Can't even beat Donald Trump
#114900 to #114881 - redandgreen
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(05/02/2016) [-]
Winning a nomination is very different to winning the election.
#114886 to #114881 - pebar
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(05/02/2016) [-]
in political science and public economics, there's a concept called strategic voting

it has been completely thrown out the window this election cycle
#114876 - marinepenguin
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(05/02/2016) [-]
I wonder what would happen within US politics if the Republican Party dissolved or splintered in the coming years. Would we see a dominant Democratic Party? Would another party like the libertarian party see an increase in popularity to fill the power vacuum? Maybe the democratic party would come under similar problems and begin to fall apart?
#114877 to #114876 - PopcornViking
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(05/02/2016) [-]
proabbly a new party would rise up with very similar ideals

but they would need all fresh new faces at the top