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#56089 - anonymous (01/27/2014) [-]
I notice a lot of people seem to praise and quote George Orwell as well as 1984, unaware of what a massive socialist Orwell was.
User avatar #56092 to #56089 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Is there a problem with that? Is there more to your statement, or do you just really hate socialism?
#56096 to #56092 - anonymous (01/27/2014) [-]
Oh no, I feel it's often unknown to people in America.
Like the time Newt Gingrich said national health care would lead to a 1984-esque future.
User avatar #56099 to #56096 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
How are his socialist leanings relevant? Why should people know that he was socialist before reading or praising his book? It makes no difference to a creation what the creator was like in other parts of his life, I mean Hitler happened to be a pretty decent painter. Sure, maybe it leads to a greater appreciation for a work if you know about the creator, but it isn't necessary or notable in its lack.
User avatar #56140 to #56099 - arisaka (01/28/2014) [-]
The book is fundamentally about LANGUAGE and it's degradation and the subsequent effects it could have. That goes over a lot of people's heads.
User avatar #56078 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
If someone was, say, cloned (Or something to the same effect such as a time travel/amnesia combo) from someone typically known to be an incredibly bad person (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc etc), what would the approach to deal with such a person be? Should they be treated normally because they could be considered their own person from a more liberal standpoint? Or should they be treated with their origins always in mind, or even killed outright?

User avatar #56109 to #56078 - kanadetenshi (01/27/2014) [-]
Having the same set of DNA does not equal as them doing the exact same things. There are two things that really determine someone's personality and actions, genetics which are inherited and epigenetics where specific genes are expression differently depending on your enviromental upbringing.
User avatar #56080 to #56078 - pebar ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Twin studies have shown that DNA plays a significant role in personality.
However, most really evil people like those come to power with the help of very specific events in history that are not likely to be recreated so it'd be almost impossible for for the clones to do anything similar.
Even if personality was exactly the same, another Hitler in Germany today would be little more than a great speaker who hates Jews.
User avatar #56081 to #56080 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
What about another Mao in China? Or another Che or Fidel in Cuba (not that they're as universally bad, they're just not technically seen in a good light by most)?
User avatar #56082 to #56081 - pebar ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Still, history has moved on so they would just be people out of place. The demand for communism isn't as widespread as it used to be.
It's all about social democracy now
User avatar #56083 to #56082 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
I see.
#56069 - anonymous (01/26/2014) [-]
How to spot a Libertarian.
User avatar #56071 to #56069 - pebar ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
but in all seriousness, protecting the incompetent which includes minors is one of the legitimate functions of government
User avatar #56120 to #56071 - undeadwill ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Well they wouldn't sell it to someoe who was too young. But I agree.
#56070 to #56069 - byposted (01/27/2014) [-]
At a job interview a Negro (bear with me) may tell the "honkey" at the opposite side of the table that his criminal record is no business of his, but it ultimately is in so far as getting the employment is concerned.

I bet he evolved into a libertarian after having calculated all the money he gives per year to the state through cigarette sales. This thereby expanded into asking that key question which gives libertarianism its quasi-anarchistic foundation: "Why should the government take my money?" It is much easier for him to blame the government for his lung cancer than the market, which influenced his decision to smoke that first joint. At least our Negro will likely get the job from the employer, fearful of being sued by Holder's racial equality Police, but this lolberg will probably sell his body to medical students, after an untimely death, who will take selfies next to his gentiles on the faybuk.
User avatar #56077 to #56070 - Shiny (01/27/2014) [-]
The black guy would get the job because in comparison to Mr. libertarian, he shuts the fuck up now and then.
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User avatar #56063 to #56061 - pebar ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
Milton Friedman Sets Liberal Straight On "Too Many Millionaires".wmv I'm having such a bad day...
User avatar #56059 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
Падение Ленина. Киев // Lenin fall in Kiev 08.12.2013
User avatar #56079 to #56059 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
>"We want independence"
>"Fuck that guy who helped give us independence"
Top kek.
#56111 to #56079 - anonymous (01/27/2014) [-]
Didn't realize onsorbing it into the soviet union would garantee more independence.
User avatar #56137 to #56111 - jewishcommunazi (01/27/2014) [-]
If it wasn't for Lenin, Ukraine would most likely be just another russian state.
User avatar #56113 to #56111 - jewishcommunazi (01/27/2014) [-]
It did until the 50's or 60's or something.
#56145 to #56113 - anonymous (01/28/2014) [-]
Oh wow.
User avatar #56116 to #56113 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
Y got tricked goy
#56112 to #56111 - anonymous (01/27/2014) [-]
Obsorbing* Guarantee*

2 mutch riots 4 me
User avatar #56084 to #56079 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
>Not reptilian jew alien
Step it up
And they kicked the commies out of 5 regions
User avatar #56085 to #56084 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Myy point is that Lennin was more of a help to Ukrainian independence than a harm.
User avatar #56087 to #56085 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
Thank you communism
You are my greatest ally
User avatar #56088 to #56087 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
That was Stalin. Fuck Stalin.
User avatar #56090 to #56088 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
I kno, but still, if Lenjin was smart Staljin would have been dead and[ spoiler] Lenjin was the 1 who built the camps not Staljin [/spoiler]
And nigga plz, communism in general sucks, yugoslavia is an exception, but it still was not communist.
User avatar #56091 to #56090 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Not saying I fully agree with communism, but it's pretty irrelevant in this conversation regardless.
User avatar #56093 to #56091 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
User avatar #56094 to #56093 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Because the conversation is on Ukrainian independence, not people who are stuck in the fifties.
User avatar #56095 to #56094 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
oh meh gerd we like killed your people and destoryed your nation in like the 50s
oh mer gerd like get over it oldfag it was a long time ago
User avatar #56097 to #56095 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Where are you from, and how old are you? Assuming that you're from a previously Soviet/communist country, odds are by the time you were old enough to realize the effects of Communism on your life, there were relatively none.
User avatar #56098 to #56097 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
I'm from Bosnia son, not on me, no, no, now we have democracy and capitalism, same shit as communism, but the Ukranians really did suffer under communism and so did the rest of the block, no wonder people ran away from the Soviets.
And I am not the topic, Ukraine is.
User avatar #56114 to #56098 - jewishcommunazi (01/27/2014) [-]
>Implying the suffering was caused for the sake of communism.
>Implying you can't have a legitimate communist movement if it's not endorsed by the Eastern Bloc™.
User avatar #56115 to #56114 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
>Implying you don't use excuses
>Implying hurr durr it's not gomjunizm but bad gommunists
User avatar #56100 to #56098 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
This has rather little to do with communism though, it's about Ukrainian-Russian relations. The only parts that connect this to communism in the first place is the Lenin statue and Russia, and shifting the focus to that is just detracting from the issue.
User avatar #56101 to #56100 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
And who is on the rise in Ukraine?
User avatar #56102 to #56101 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
I don't know, the morning news station?
#56103 to #56102 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
Made me lol   
 White nationalists
Made me lol
White nationalists
#56104 to #56103 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
So much irrelevancy.
So much irrelevancy.
#56275 to #56104 - anonymous (01/31/2014) [-]
ur a butthole
User avatar #56105 to #56104 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
We were talking about the horsemen tearing down the statue and I wanted to talk about this but if y want to talk about Putin ok.
User avatar #56064 to #56059 - jewishcommunazi (01/26/2014) [-]
Because nothing says we want independence more than vandalizing a statue of the guy that promoted our independence.
User avatar #56065 to #56064 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
im eating popcorn got grsy hands typingqwuith knuckles
whom is we and lenjin is a jew who wants slaves nothing more
User avatar #56058 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ZsLXwkOGo [Embed]
Nazis beat up immigrants
User avatar #56056 - pebar ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
No Conservatives Allowed in New York?!
User avatar #56051 - jewishcommunazi (01/26/2014) [-]
"When I hear the term Right wing I think of Hitler and Satan and Civil war."
-Kurt Cobain

Just out of curiosity, did he say this as a joke or no?
User avatar #56110 to #56051 - kanadetenshi (01/27/2014) [-]
Satan would probably be more of a anarcho-capitalist.
User avatar #56067 to #56051 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
voice of the generation
User avatar #56068 to #56067 - jewishcommunazi (01/26/2014) [-]
Too bad he confused a shotgun with a microphone.
#56086 to #56068 - schnizel (01/27/2014) [-]
You are 1 funny communist
You are 1 funny communist
#56052 to #56051 - byposted (01/26/2014) [-]
I don't know who he is, but this is a good example of how people misuse the left/right binary. He likely meant the foundation of what he said, that the right wing is evil, but mixed in it in with "Satan" to achieve a comedic effect. Projecting evil qualities onto the opposing "wing" is probably best exemplified in the debate over which side Fascism is on. Actually, there is no debate as it only amounts to a game of hot potato. The ideology is "evil," and so it must be a part of the wing which I do not identify with!

In fact, he wrote more:

When I think of the right wing I think of Ronald Reagan clowns as mayor in every state of the US. When I hear the term 'right wing' I think of Hitler and Satan and Civil War. When I think of right wing I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize. The reality of actually getting an abortion in this country is very scary right now due to Terry Randall and his pro-life Gestapo and their god-fearing commonfolk helpful hints. These people are are also the people who have the same beliefs as white supremacists who also claim to be acting out of their beliefs. Right wing is the foulest, dirtiest insult a person could be called. These people hate minorities of all colour. They will perform mass extermination of anything that is not white, god-fearing and right wing. 'R' is for Republican. Ethnic cleansing is going on right now in the inner cities of the united states. Blacks, Hispanics and others are being exterminated before they can reach the fifth grade. The logic of the right wing is to kill living, breathing and free thinking human beings rather than unknowing, unstimulated, growing cells encased in a lukewarm chamber.

User avatar #56117 to #56052 - jewishcommunazi (01/27/2014) [-]
Associating fascism with "evil" and then associating it with the opposing side is one of the most annoying things in "political arguments".
#56050 - anonymous (01/26/2014) [-]
So what's wrong with national healthcare?
Why can't people just pay an extra tax, like an income tax
But you get you money back because now you don't have to pay for healthcare
And than everyone can have free healthcare
User avatar #56072 to #56050 - undeadwill ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Because it leads to shortages in medical field and leads to political control over who lives and who dies.
User avatar #56053 to #56050 - hawaiianhappysauce ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
What you are suggesting is a "single payer" system. That was the original suggestion made by the democrats but the bill was passed around so much that it became this. The reality is that the single payer system has serious flaws. One of them is doctor salaries go down because it becomes a public sector profession and public sector professions basically have a wage cap. So now there is less incentive to go to med school and spend tons of money on education. You also have decrease in quality because it is public sector. Death Panels are anther reason. Now suppose you have a flourishing economy and the government has tons of revenue. Then this idea isn't so bad because the government has money to spend, BUT suppose that money runs low? Now the government has to either raise taxes (which hurts growth) or start cutting costs. How can you cut costs? Well, you have people not get care and that's what death panels are for. These people decide who lives and who dies, my guess is that old people are the first to go since they don't pay into the system and they are more likely to have serious (expensive) treatments.

This is different than private insurance. In private insurance companies have people pay a premium, they also pay a deductible for these procedures (if you want shoulder surgery you pay up front a certain amount and the rest is covered by insurance). Private companies can go under but at least there are other companies to purchase insurance, whereas the government is one big unit that is already in debt. (Companies have debt too but not nearly as much as the US).

You also have current problems noticed right now. The site not working, people stealing SSN because the site isn't secure,

User avatar #56066 to #56053 - jewishcommunazi (01/26/2014) [-]
Outside the US, public hospitals are usually high quality I think.
User avatar #56054 to #56053 - hawaiianhappysauce ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
and most of the people who have signed up already had private insurance but lost it because The Affordable Care Act forces private insurance companies to cover "necessary needs" therefore increasing the private sectors premiums. Very few of those 40 million uninsured are actually insured, and even if they were insured on the site, there are issues between this affordable care act and the hospitals...

#56046 - jewishcommunazi (01/26/2014) [-]
Looking at this picture of Gene Simmons, I realized how much he looks like Gadaffi.
#56047 to #56046 - jewishcommunazi (01/26/2014) [-]
Apparently, I wasn't the only one to notice this.
#56038 - anonymous (01/26/2014) [-]
What do you think about a state creating it's own public healthcare plan?
Like Massachusetts.
User avatar #56040 to #56038 - pebar ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
better than the feds but I'm still skeptical
User avatar #56055 to #56040 - hawaiianhappysauce ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
A state can manage it WAY better than the federal government. Is it still good? Not really, but it won't be disastrous. I live in Massachusetts and I never hear anything about Romney Care killing jobs and businesses.
#56036 - pebar ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
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I found an interesting supreme court case that's pending...   
"Issue: (1) Whether a gun buyer’s intent to sell a firearm to another lawful buyer in the future a fact is “material to the lawfulness of the sale” of the firearm under 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(6); and (2) whether a gun buyer’s intent to sell a firearm to another lawful buyer in the future is a piece of information “required . . . to be kept” by a federally licensed firearm dealer under Section 924(a)(1)(A)."
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I found an interesting supreme court case that's pending...
"Issue: (1) Whether a gun buyer’s intent to sell a firearm to another lawful buyer in the future a fact is “material to the lawfulness of the sale” of the firearm under 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(6); and (2) whether a gun buyer’s intent to sell a firearm to another lawful buyer in the future is a piece of information “required . . . to be kept” by a federally licensed firearm dealer under Section 924(a)(1)(A)."
User avatar #56034 - lulzforhiroshima (01/26/2014) [-]
After listening to more stories of my Dad and his uncle talking he sometimes visits from buffalo

Apparently my great-grandmother was a principle at a school and a high ranking communist leader in her community.
She even collected money from the neighborhood to fund the military back in ww2, i think it was for a tank t-34 or something. Either way, she got a letter from Stalin just his signature of course thanking her which is pretty cool.
User avatar #56073 to #56034 - undeadwill ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
I got one from Rick Perry and Obama.
User avatar #56042 to #56034 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
and that tank got destroyed the moment it came to the battlefield
by a king tiger
User avatar #56048 to #56042 - lulzforhiroshima (01/26/2014) [-]
User avatar #56044 to #56042 - pebar ONLINE (01/26/2014) [-]
01x02 Hold That Tiger
User avatar #56045 to #56044 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
thanks for the vid dude
User avatar #56041 to #56029 - schnizel (01/26/2014) [-]
I never lie to people I love
no homo maximus
User avatar #56033 to #56029 - byposted (01/26/2014) [-]
Why would you have thought so? Have you never been culturally enriched by our emancipated slaves?

Over at Negroid Revolutionary Central, they view the ends to such crime rates, prodigious imprisonment amongst Blacks, as evidence of repression:

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Nearly half of U.S. prisoners are African American, although Blacks are only one-eighth of the total U.S. population...This could only occur in a thoroughly racist state, whose institutions work overtime to produce the biggest and most racially unbalanced incarceration numbers on Earth.

This is like saying that STDs are racist and homophobic since they affect Blacks and Homosexuals more than White Heterosexuals; a variable is missing. I'm sure that Blacks making up half the US prison population has nothing to do with the fact that Blacks commit roughly 55% of the homicide in America, for instance.
User avatar #56030 to #56022 - Shiny (01/26/2014) [-]
I strongly doubt the shooting would be prevented by concealed carriers. Maryland is just a shithole.
User avatar #56024 to #56022 - hawaiianhappysauce ONLINE (01/25/2014) [-]
Gun Joe Biden Says No Need To Own Assault Weapons: 'Buy A Shotgun This is what Biden told them to do.
#56025 to #56024 - pebar ONLINE (01/25/2014) [-]
User avatar #56026 to #56025 - hawaiianhappysauce ONLINE (01/25/2014) [-]
It's posts like this that make me happy knowing that SOME people actually pay attention to these things.
User avatar #56020 - pebar ONLINE (01/25/2014) [-]
The Power of Nazi Propaganda Schnizel, you may appreciate this.
User avatar #56021 to #56020 - schnizel (01/25/2014) [-]
Thanks man. The guy is a bu hu evil nazis type of persons and yet he does not see the reasons Germans hated the jews. And about the communist, there was only pure rage. The jewish communists in Germany said that they will destroy the entire German race and what do people think would Germans do, fight back as they always do?
Daily reminder that Hitler could have won the war if he had send backup at Kursk and held the last Soviet land assault.
User avatar #56019 - lulzforhiroshima (01/25/2014) [-]
This is why we invest money into science and should invest more

I hate those fucking stupid arguments of "we already have too many other problems", bitch please. If you are a supporter of de-funding science/tech programs, you can go die for all i care.
#56004 - politicsnstuff (01/25/2014) [-]
Homosexuality is a disease in every sense of the word.
This has been proven scientifically numerous times.
User avatar #56018 to #56004 - takamori (01/25/2014) [-]
Well do go on please.
#56028 to #56018 - politicsnstuff (01/26/2014) [-]
it's not environmental (not a choice) so it's physiological, for males
there's a correlation between being gay and the number of gay males in your family line
there's a correlation between being gay and the number of older siblings you have, regardless of if you live with them or not
there's a part of the brain that's like 10x bigger in gays than normal people
and from an evolutionary standpoint, being gay is bad and would not spread far because it is bad
User avatar #56043 to #56028 - kanadetenshi (01/26/2014) [-]
Something being physiological and disadvantaged doesn't equal it being a disease. First of all the evolutionary standpoint is mostly bullshit because it implies reproduction is the only purpose of sex in an evolutionary standpoint which it's not, homosexual and lesbian sex are very benefitial in evolution because it increases bonds and social kinship. Furthermore if you're going to say that it's a disease purely because it's an imbalance then literally every one of us is a disease because we've all evolved from imbalances, that's literally the mechanism of evolution.
User avatar #56032 to #56028 - byposted (01/26/2014) [-]
Since many don't understand what a "disease" is, it would better to call it a defect. More correctly, homosexuality is a deficiency disease although imbalance does not seem to be the only factor involved.
User avatar #56074 to #56032 - undeadwill ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-]
Doesn't mean in a society that is neither about to go to war nor on the brink of extinction should ban it.
Its harmless when allowed.
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#56017 to #56004 - anonymous (01/25/2014) [-]
ur mom has a disease
disease for my dick
#56015 to #56004 - schnizel (01/25/2014) [-]
sacred band of thebes
This nigga be talking shit about us.
User avatar #56012 to #56004 - aczzoh ONLINE (01/25/2014) [-]
User avatar #55996 - byposted (01/25/2014) [-]

>“Ten, 15 years from now, people will look back… and say, more often than not, we got it right,” Holder claimed at the end of the interview.

No, Holder. Ten, fifteen years from now a tribunal will convict you of your crimes and bring you to the rope.

#56039 to #55996 - anonymous (01/26/2014) [-]
Those comments, I'm about to have an aneurism.
User avatar #56013 to #55996 - Shiny (01/25/2014) [-]
I disagree on the principle of the topic at hand, but not that Holder is a bag of shit.
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