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#55899 - pebar (01/21/2014) [-]
So.... Syria is in the headlines again with another series of human rights violations...
So.... Syria is in the headlines again with another series of human rights violations...
User avatar #55904 to #55899 - schnizel ONLINE (01/21/2014) [-]
Same shit, diffrent day.
#55867 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
>I hate the religion but not religious people     
>I hate crime but not the criminals
>I hate the religion but not religious people
>I hate crime but not the criminals
User avatar #55883 to #55867 - feelythefeel (01/21/2014) [-]
Says the racist.
User avatar #55891 to #55883 - schnizel ONLINE (01/21/2014) [-]
Oy vey.
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User avatar #55877 to #55867 - pebar (01/20/2014) [-]
pfffft
you hate people who aren't even criminals just because they're statistically more likely to commit crimes or so you say
User avatar #55878 to #55877 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
:3
we put the wild ones to sleep
#55892 to #55881 - schnizel ONLINE (01/21/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #55864 - lulzforhiroshima (01/20/2014) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4QHJ3Ho4QQ Detriot is really something special, over 45,000 abandoned homes and buildings set on fire. Homes selling for hundreds of dollars. Highest poverty n crime, bigger then columbia.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrUFZrWQRhE youtube race war. lots of interesting folk blaming it on the black people. Can't say i disagree or agree.
User avatar #55916 to #55864 - Shiny (01/22/2014) [-]
People blame blacks for everything. This is no exception. A lack of knowledge of history or economics also helps.
User avatar #55884 to #55864 - feelythefeel (01/21/2014) [-]
It's not race, it's outsourcing in a nutshell. Detroit was built on the auto industry, yet everyone seems surprised that it's doing poorly now that it has no auto industry to speak of. It's more than a bit bullshit.
User avatar #55902 to #55884 - pebar (01/21/2014) [-]
The auto industry boomed during WW2 then everyone bought cars when the troops came home. The companies planned for people to replace their cars every couple years so they invested a lot. When people stopped buying as many cars, the profits began to decline. All that mixed with powerful unions..... it's not a surprise the auto industry fell apart.

Simple outsourcing doesn't cover it.
User avatar #55868 to #55864 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
liberalgoddess:
>No, no, the crime rates are all false and made by the racist goverment and if there is crime that is because of the white racism and slavery and the whites probably deserved it.
User avatar #55873 to #55868 - liberalgodess (01/20/2014) [-]
It's not that the crime rates are false, it's just that police focus more on low income neighborhoods where crime is most common. Blacks are more likely to be in low income neighborhoods due to racism from capitalist employers. So they're not false, they're just misleading.
User avatar #55880 to #55873 - lulzforhiroshima (01/21/2014) [-]
he's a troll, its pretty obvious after

"Blacks are more likely to be in low income neighborhoods due to racism from capitalist employers. So they're not false, they're just misleading. "
#55874 to #55873 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
xD
You are funny, you should be a comedian
#55875 to #55874 - liberalgodess (01/20/2014) [-]
You just can't accept that you're wrong.
Google it and you'll know what I'm talking about.
#55876 to #55875 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
You just can't accept that you're wrong.
Google it and you'll know what I'm talking about.
fbi document nigga!
User avatar #55865 to #55864 - lulzforhiroshima (01/20/2014) [-]
i lel'd, someone posted this is the reason why detriot sucks.

"This is why capitalism failed. Too bad the world turns it's back on it. But that's capitalism, you don't have to give a shit. It's every man for himself."

I think its the opposite.
User avatar #56075 to #55862 - undeadwill (01/27/2014) [-]
I saw that earlier.
User avatar #55853 - beatmasterz (01/20/2014) [-]
All jokes and gags aside, do you think fundamental racism is justified? I don't mean lol black people chicken, I mean actually believing other races are inferior and treating them accordingly.
#55900 to #55853 - byposted (01/21/2014) [-]
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

Racism is a loaded term. It should only go so far as to mean the believe in inherent racial differences, but this is negated by the incorporation of such descriptive words as "prejudice." In fact, the term as it exists on webster, linked above, prejudges racialists if anything.

"Rational"wiki, which prides itself on being oh so enlightened, makes a mockery of itself when explaining racialism. Here is the best example, although there are multiple, when it speaks of Darwin:

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism#Darwin_and_racialism
>Despite what the creationists and Social Darwinists would have you believe, the work of Charles Darwin did not promote racialism. Despite making occasional use of racist tropes in common currency at the time in his writing (e.g., use of the term "savages"), Darwin's On the Origin of Species and the subsequent Descent of Man undermined many of the arguments made by racialists by demonstrating that humans were one species.

When we speak of racialism implemented politically, it goes for the good of the primary race and people. But only so? No. I believe that religious worship of human equality has not only set the West on a track to disaster, but that it hurts the very people it is intended to aid. Since we marked the legacy of Micheal King yesterday, can anyone really say, except for those who are supporters of the rhetoric on "the individual soul," that Lyndon's Great Society has liberated Blacks? Perhaps so, if one considers regression to African-standards to be liberation; if one considers the former part of the aphorism on giving a man a fish to be the way.
User avatar #55918 to #55900 - jewishcommunazi (01/22/2014) [-]
Where's the "fail" in the picture though?
#55947 to #55918 - byposted (01/22/2014) [-]
Whose future was protected? Definitely not the American soldier's son.
Whose future was protected? Definitely not the American soldier's son.
User avatar #55949 to #55947 - jewishcommunazi (01/22/2014) [-]
So his future is automatically ruined if he has a chinese neighbour?
User avatar #55951 to #55949 - byposted (01/22/2014) [-]
I guess this classic article is of order for the purpose of this conversation:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html
User avatar #55956 to #55951 - jewishcommunazi (01/23/2014) [-]
Makes sense, but that problem isn't to blame necessarily on the minorities, wigglers (I think that's how they're called) are a good example.
I only read a few parts for now, but I think I got the main point.
User avatar #55950 to #55949 - byposted (01/22/2014) [-]
Being forced to move out of the city which his ancestors built as a result of stage one diversity certainly did not secure his future. Every major American city saw an exodus of much of its native population as these, as you would call them, "Chinese neighbors" were invited in. Losing voting power to these "Chinese neighbors" only secured the future of those actors who wished to destroy American liberal democracy.
User avatar #55871 to #55853 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
Yes, cuz it's funny
User avatar #55863 to #55853 - Ruspanic (01/20/2014) [-]
Of course not. People are first and foremost individuals, and they should be treated as such. Discriminatory policies and social norms create self-fulfilling prophesies which reinforce negative stereotypes, not only in the minds of the "superior" group but also in the behavior of the "inferior" group (when you call someone worthless enough times, they internalize it). And that's in addition to whatever institutional restrictions are imposed. Treating people differently for reasons beyond their control can unfairly constrain their ability to realize their potential and rob society of whatever good those people might bring without those constraints.
User avatar #55869 to #55863 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
xD
User avatar #55886 to #55869 - Ruspanic (01/21/2014) [-]
muh white genocide
User avatar #55889 to #55886 - schnizel ONLINE (01/21/2014) [-]
lel
User avatar #55856 to #55853 - hoodedmetal (01/20/2014) [-]
The last people who did that on a grand scale was the Nazis and we can see how that turned out.
User avatar #55870 to #55856 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
National Socialst and we could have won if we had backup on Kursk
User avatar #55872 to #55870 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
national socialist*
#55849 - anonymous (01/20/2014) [-]
What does everyone think of surveillance? If we put a camera on every street corner, and down every ally, wouldn't crime deteriorate dramatically? And at what cost? If you were to pick your nose in public the only additional consequence is that the government would have a recording of it somewhere in it's archives, something so large that no one is willing to look through just for fun.
User avatar #55854 to #55849 - beatmasterz (01/20/2014) [-]
No thanks, IMO the only situation where a person can be surveilled constantly is if he's an actual crime suspect.
User avatar #55860 to #55854 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
I agree with you.
User avatar #55852 to #55849 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
Well if its checking for people doing crime and shit so the police would get there faster then it's ok but if its monitoring people like rats in a cage and making psychological profiles then it's not ok. mkay
User avatar #55855 to #55852 - hoodedmetal (01/20/2014) [-]
and the process wouldn't be that effective if you had thousands of cameras all over the city. They might have the footage but it doesn't matter if some can't go through it all since for every second a camera is recording, there will be more than a thousand seconds of film produced.
User avatar #55857 to #55855 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
Or if some1 in the gov only films womyn with short skirts.....
User avatar #55858 to #55857 - hoodedmetal (01/20/2014) [-]
That much manpower and resources spent by one person only to have their results come up with days worth of videos about women in short skirts? That would have to be one completely corrupt state for that to fly. Though max surveillance can be easily corruptible on any level of the people involved from the security monitors to the politicians using them.
User avatar #55859 to #55858 - schnizel ONLINE (01/20/2014) [-]
True.
#55839 to #55830 - anonymous (01/20/2014) [-]
Would have been nice if a bomb fell on that NAMBLA rally. Would burn off a nice bit of garbage.
User avatar #55833 to #55830 - feelythefeel (01/20/2014) [-]
Grown adults can give legal consent, children can't. Maybe start pissing up a storm when the actual deviants show up for equal rights.
User avatar #55834 to #55833 - danield (01/20/2014) [-]
you're telling me a 16 year cant give consent?
User avatar #55835 to #55834 - feelythefeel (01/20/2014) [-]
If sixteen year-olds could give legal consent, I wouldn't be moving to the interior in two weeks.
User avatar #55836 to #55835 - danield (01/20/2014) [-]
So where do you draw the line in giving consent?
User avatar #55837 to #55836 - feelythefeel (01/20/2014) [-]
As far as I'm aware, it's currently if you want to give consent to something legal but you don't have your parent's/guardian's support.
#55832 to #55830 - anonymous (01/20/2014) [-]
gay marriage has got to be the most boring political topic....
User avatar #55820 - jadewest (01/20/2014) [-]
alright
should we raise, lower, keep as is or remove the minimum wage and why
User avatar #55826 to #55820 - Shiny (01/20/2014) [-]
Keep as is. Remove, and companies have an excuse tgo wreak short term havoc; increase and they can't compete as well, further spreading the gap between big and small business.
User avatar #55821 to #55820 - pebar (01/20/2014) [-]
Milton Friedman on Minimum Wage Remove, at at least just not raise it. It can be kept just so people don't have to be paranoid about receiving shit wages. People often overlook the competition between businesses for scarce labor.
#55815 - pebar (01/20/2014) [-]
Why do people make such a big fuss over equality?
Why do people make such a big fuss over equality?
#55840 to #55815 - anonymous (01/20/2014) [-]
Because feelings.
User avatar #55818 to #55815 - pebar (01/20/2014) [-]
economic equality, just to clarify
User avatar #55838 to #55818 - akkere (01/20/2014) [-]
Primarily to extinguish any negative morality that exists within the boundaries of legislature (if that were even possible).
You can't defeat prejudice within individuals, but you could certainly attempt to expunge it from the domain of law and government (preferably without instilling a double-standard or something of the like).
User avatar #55819 to #55818 - jadewest (01/20/2014) [-]
that makes more sense
a lack of understanding of economics, moral stuff probably
User avatar #55816 to #55815 - jadewest (01/20/2014) [-]
there isn't even such thing as true equality anyways
#55810 - anonymous (01/20/2014) [-]
Did I just hear some hurt feelings?
#55841 to #55810 - anonymous (01/20/2014) [-]
Bet the whiny douchebag hands those out more than Jehovah's Witnesses hand out pamphlets.
#55812 to #55810 - pebar (01/20/2014) [-]
This is proof that stereotypes exist for a reason.   
This has Tumblr written all over it, then I scrolled down and it's from Tumblr.
This is proof that stereotypes exist for a reason.
This has Tumblr written all over it, then I scrolled down and it's from Tumblr.
#55806 - byposted (01/19/2014) [-]
A day worth noting. Great general who made the kikes so butthurt that they were forced to rape and pillage their way around his Army to defeat him.
User avatar #55808 to #55806 - lulzforhiroshima (01/19/2014) [-]
do you blame everything you find wrong/evil on the jews?
User avatar #55807 to #55806 - byposted (01/19/2014) [-]
You need to login to view this link

It's disgusting how many states in the South have combined honoring him with the adulterer Micheal Coon. Coon was born on the 15th. Virgina is the exception in that the state honors both days; Lee's birthday is recognized on Friday and Coon's on Monday.
User avatar #55805 to #55792 - feelythefeel (01/19/2014) [-]
I didn't read the entire article, but from what I read it's just standard diplomacy stuff going better than anticipated. What do you expect the guy to do, just ignore the Israeli issue? We've been sending troops to the area for years. Considering that part of his platform is to withdraw troops, this is an exceptional place to start.
User avatar #55765 - feelythefeel (01/19/2014) [-]
Knowledge of the wheneverIfeellikeit: Small parts malevolence can be excused in the presence of large parts ingenuity.
User avatar #55769 to #55765 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
wat
User avatar #55772 to #55769 - pebar (01/19/2014) [-]
he says being a douche is acceptable if you're creative
User avatar #55776 to #55772 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
User avatar #55763 - Ruspanic (01/19/2014) [-]
Should we lift sanctions on Iran?
Discuss.
User avatar #55794 to #55763 - byposted (01/19/2014) [-]
It is understandable why the US has sanctions on Iran given the geopolitics of the region, but the Persian people are not uncivilized (especially in relation to the Arabs). They have a right to pursue nuclear energy. Questioning why they are given their reserves of petroleum is like an imbecile asking you why you are reading a book.
User avatar #55770 to #55763 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
no
let the nuke explode there
User avatar #55753 - lulzforhiroshima (01/19/2014) [-]
What is more important, punishment or re-habilitation?

Can there be a balance?

And how exactly do you re-habilitate a criminal?
User avatar #55797 to #55753 - Shiny (01/19/2014) [-]
Rehabilitation, predominantly. The government does not exist to protect people's feelings, and the main point of the prison system to begin with is simply to keep people off the streets. If they refuse help, let them rot to death or kick them out on their ass with no help when their term is up; it sets a better example for convicts with potential for change. Punishment is hypocritical mob rule that only fights fire with fire.
We don't need to treat prisoners like kids, just to give them what they need to help themselves and to reward them for taking the proper steps. Our current system has a very nihilistic mentality toward the incarcerated, which is why our shitty prisons don't work. They've become a convenient place where the government can send people it happens to find a nuisance to its agenda, and by extension its constituents.
User avatar #55793 to #55753 - byposted (01/19/2014) [-]
I value the Singaporean model of conduct. Those who commit petty offenses, for instance, should be caned, while those who are more hardline criminals should be executed as efficiently as possible; by firing squad or the rope. Those who commit offenses that are neither hardline nor petty, or have multiple convictions, go to prison with no questions asked. And these prisons are not particularly two star hotels.

The pinnacle of criminal rehabilitation in practice is seen in Scandinavia. Breivik, who executed dozens of Leninist youth on an island, will seriously be "free" (he is essentially on vacation) within our lifetimes, although under strict watch. Such a system fails to address that there is a genetic predisposition to criminality, and that it does society good for the scum-elements to be locked away. Leftists whine about the "prison-industrial complex," but would they be willing to take the prisoners into their homes, their racially homologous McMansion neighborhoods?
User avatar #55790 to #55753 - akkere (01/19/2014) [-]
Rehabillation for those that can be rehabillitated and accepted back into society, punishment for those that can't (i.e. the ones who've committed severe atrocities and/or would continue to perform crimes regardless of rehabilitation).

I feel like rehabilitation could go multiple ways, though I'm not sure how effective the whole "rehabilitate them with therapy" is, I'd think something similar to how the military's training stage would be better effective because it helps reform individuals from any previous negative behavior to a more tame, responsible-minded one. It all boils down to creating the perfect institution to resocializing a criminal forcefully or therapeutically.
User avatar #55767 to #55753 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
Depends.
#55764 to #55753 - valeriya (01/19/2014) [-]
Both work but I prefer punishment.

And no there isn't a balance I could argue that punishment when harsh enough does lead to more rehabilitation and deterrence of crime. Rehabilitation also works but it is more costly and the people are essentially burdens during their time in prison, when you try to balance the two generally it doesn't work and you end up with horrible systems trying to punish whilst rehabilitating prisoners when they end up doing neither successfully.
User avatar #55761 to #55753 - Ruspanic (01/19/2014) [-]
Deterrence is most important, but rehabilitation is more important than punishment.
User avatar #55781 to #55761 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
lol
User avatar #55758 to #55753 - pebar (01/19/2014) [-]
I'm leaning more towards rehab
User avatar #55782 to #55758 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
We can treat criminals with love and give them hugs and kisses?
User avatar #55783 to #55782 - pebar (01/19/2014) [-]
If it will reduce repeat criminals (which is a lot of them), yes
User avatar #55784 to #55783 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
Or, you know, you can kill them and save the monies and gib the monies to those who need it.
User avatar #55787 to #55785 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
The chosen ones from G-d.
User avatar #55755 to #55753 - hawaiianhappysauce (01/19/2014) [-]
Punishment is more important. It gives families of the victim the benefit of knowing that the person who did them wrong is going to suffer.
#55752 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
the 1911 is outdated
#55757 to #55752 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
9mm > .45 ACP
User avatar #55759 to #55757 - undeadwill (01/19/2014) [-]
2scared2login
#55774 to #55759 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
can't accept the truth
User avatar #55777 to #55774 - undeadwill (01/19/2014) [-]
>Can't log in
#55786 to #55777 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
I am logged in. I'm just checking this box to hide my true identity.
User avatar #55796 to #55786 - undeadwill (01/19/2014) [-]
Because you are a bitch.
#55800 to #55796 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
Or because I'm trying to start something...
User avatar #55801 to #55800 - undeadwill (01/19/2014) [-]
Or you are 2scared2login
#55802 to #55801 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
Appealing to my manliness or lack thereof will not convince me to show my ID.
#55741 - anonymous (01/19/2014) [-]
To what degree do you think companies should be held responsible for deaths or injuries caused by their products?
User avatar #55743 to #55741 - pebar (01/19/2014) [-]
Depends on if the injury is actually caused by the product and not the recklessness of the user.
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User avatar #55748 to #55747 - pebar (01/19/2014) [-]
wut?
User avatar #55750 to #55748 - fuckya (01/19/2014) [-]
I... I ment to reply to the felony post. Muh bad.
#55739 - anonymous (01/18/2014) [-]
Do you think convicted felons should be allowed to own guns?
User avatar #55775 to #55739 - pebar (01/19/2014) [-]
They already have guns now so it's not like it would change anything.
User avatar #55861 to #55775 - hoodedmetal (01/20/2014) [-]
It would because they are illegally owning those guns. Correct me if I'm wrong but if they are found with a firearm in their property or person then its 5 years + 10 years for every bullet in the gun. By that, if a felon is caught with a pistol they could go to jail for the rest of their natural life even if it was a set up.
User avatar #55771 to #55739 - jewishcommunazi (01/19/2014) [-]
Non-violent felons too.
User avatar #55768 to #55739 - schnizel ONLINE (01/19/2014) [-]
Depends.
User avatar #55762 to #55739 - Ruspanic (01/19/2014) [-]
Only non-violent felons.
User avatar #55760 to #55739 - undeadwill (01/19/2014) [-]
Why the fuck not?
User avatar #55751 to #55739 - fuckya (01/19/2014) [-]
For non-violent felonies, after a certain time frame, yes.
User avatar #55740 to #55739 - A Pickle (01/18/2014) [-]
No...
User avatar #55732 - nigalthornberry (01/18/2014) [-]
I decided to pick 2 political pages on facebook and Compare them
Being liberal www.facebook.com/beingliberal.org?filter=2
-Republicans are bad and its all their fault
-Obama and Obamacare good
-Racism is the main reason for hating Obama
-Fox news is now "Faux News"
-15$ Minimum wage
-Equality
User avatar #55733 to #55732 - nigalthornberry (01/18/2014) [-]
Being conservative www.facebook.com/beingconservative
-NSA bad
-Try not to take handouts
-Reagan
-Obamacare bad and Obama lies
-T-shirt sales
-Constitutional rights
-Veteran honors
User avatar #55798 to #55733 - Shiny (01/19/2014) [-]
The difference to me seems to be that while the liberal page is blatant about their pretension, the conservative page is more subtle, using more propaganda and loaded language.

Seeing how this is Facebook, I'll assume the worst.
User avatar #55746 to #55730 - hawaiianhappysauce (01/19/2014) [-]
And they want young people on ObamaCare because "they pay more into the system." So basically they are admitting that young people will be paying for their own and old people's health insurance.
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