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#124589 - pebar
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(08/19/2016) [-]
Once you realize that all groups are just collections of individuals, your perspective changes.
There is no such thing as a "group decision"
#124592 to #124589 - whoozy
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(08/19/2016) [-]
What is an individual if not a reflection of those around it?
#124591 to #124589 - thumbfortrump
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(08/19/2016) [-]
People can reach a consensus called a group descision.
#124605 to #124591 - pebar
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(08/19/2016) [-]
a bunch of individuals having a similar decision is still just a bunch of individuals

and if the process is through voting, you have the 51% telling the other 49% what to do
#124639 to #124605 - figatron ONLINE
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(08/20/2016) [-]
In most realistic scenarios, a consensus is incredibly rare. Most likely the 51%+ assumes something is right because most people believe it. The >49% are wrongly assumed to be wrong.
#124606 to #124605 - thumbfortrump
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(08/19/2016) [-]
A bunch of people is called a group.

A decision made by a bunch of people is called a group decision.
#124585 - braus
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(08/19/2016) [-]
What happened while I was gone? Ben Shapiro all of a sudden thinks Trump is a better candidate. Did he do something different?
#124590 to #124585 - anon
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(08/19/2016) [-]
Kikes always act like that.
#124586 to #124585 - pebar
Reply +1
(08/19/2016) [-]
He's always thought Trump was a better candidate

better being they keyword there
relatively better
compared to hillary
#124587 to #124586 - braus
Reply 0
(08/19/2016) [-]
No, I mean, better than before. He tweeted that he's wondering if Trump is pivoting somehow.
#124570 - braus
Reply 0
(08/18/2016) [-]
Tbh, I don't know if Trump will win at the rate he's going.
#124571 to #124570 - akkere
Reply +6
(08/18/2016) [-]
"Wait for the debates" is probably the best thing to do before making judgments.
The better statistical models use the debates and primaries as central indicators for election results. Though Trump is making some questionable shifts in his campaign, I wouldn't say they're election-breaking.
#124588 to #124571 - Shiny
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(08/19/2016) [-]
At the same time, does anyone really think Clinton will play fair? Trump either genuinely cares, which makes him vulnerable to foul play, or doesn't and can be bribed.
#124574 to #124571 - braus
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I wish they'd hurry up and happen. Ben Shapiro suggests that if Trump loses badly (ie: by 10 points), then it could badly effect conservatives down the ballot who supported him. It's bad enough Hill might be president, but I don't want all liberals in the House and Senate too.
#124582 to #124574 - anon
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
The Presidency, House, Senate and Supreme Court all under liberal rule...

...to even think about it is horrifying.
#124578 to #124574 - akkere
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(08/18/2016) [-]
We'll be stuck waiting until the fall. Maybe even not till the first week of October, as the debate dates have gravitated towards of previous times.
I kind of doubt the Democrats will sweep a victory of all houses, they're having enough trouble as it is keeping it together. It's probably going to be a one-or the other deal, if anything, because these presidential candidates elicit resistance such that the election of one will call for the upbringing of the other's party. Ben Shapiro's model suggests somewhat ideal conditions for all other variables (like the state of opposing party) and we all know that's not the case.
#124568 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Evil Assad regime
t. west
#124569 to #124568 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
after their church is bombed by western supported christian backstabbers. our Syrian christian brothers will still be loyal to their religion and their country to death
#124557 - youregaylol
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(08/18/2016) [-]
If you want to be enraged look up this amy schumer kurt metzger "controversy"

Basically some shitty leftwing comedy writer broke free from the conditioning for a moment and said that feminists are the equivalent to religious zealots in regards to blind faith in rape accusers.

Amy then sold him out and a horde of just the lowest form of hipster gutter trash like redandgreen is spamming his twitter. So much dyed hair and shaggy beards with thick framed glasses. Fuck.

I mean just look at this asshole.
twitter.com/B111S

Have you ever seen a more rage inducing face?
#124559 to #124557 - youregaylol
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(08/18/2016) [-]
On one hand I find it hard to be sorry for him though. For years he fed these mongoloids his "muh vagina" humor.

It is kinda justice for a mob of joshlol to attack him. The left is completely insane and will eat it's own.
#124560 to #124559 - joshlol
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
far left and far right are as bad as each other

letting politics drive your life is a mental illness

look how worked up you're getting over some loser you've never met before
#124583 to #124560 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Yourgaylol is the cuck of the board.
He has tantrums like this all the time.
#124581 to #124560 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
That's relativism if I ever saw it.
#124561 to #124560 - youregaylol
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(08/18/2016) [-]
This isn't the far left. That brand of greasy unloved cyber hobo is the new normal of the modern left. He is you.

People get disgusted about people they haven't met all time. You probably stick ice picks in your balls everytime Trump mentions the wall.
#124584 to #124561 - anon
Reply +2
(08/18/2016) [-]
You suck at banter m8.
#124562 to #124561 - joshlol
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
I'm not even left though - you're just your typical /pol/lack who thinks "left" is synonymous with "person I dislike"

have fun sitting in your room being furious at anyone who isn't a far-right manchild every time you read something you dislike on a screen
#124563 to #124562 - youregaylol
Reply -1
(08/18/2016) [-]
We've been over this like a hundred times, you all but admitted you are a bbc addict in the past. Deny it all you want. Heck, if I was a leftist I'd run from the term as well just out of shame.

If you really weren't an emasculated pale waste monkey you wouldn't be raging at me right now.

GG. #Sheswithyou
#124564 to #124563 - joshlol
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
I'm not raging - you mentioned me because you wanted to attempt to be witty for the 1000th time
#124565 to #124564 - youregaylol
Reply -1
(08/18/2016) [-]
I mentioned you and now you're raging.

I'll use another semi known liberal moob goblin in the future if it makes you feel better, there are plenty of you tbqh.
#124566 to #124565 - joshlol
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
**joshlol gives you the validation you're seeking**

there there
#124567 to #124566 - youregaylol
Reply -1
(08/18/2016) [-]
stinky hat
#124536 - Elk
Reply 0
(08/18/2016) [-]
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cokie-roberts-donald-trump_us_57b45b9fe4b0edfa80da567c?section=&

I absolutely hate people like this. If you dislike a candidate, talk badly about him or her. That's fine as long as you don't make up stuff or use soundbites like Warren seems to do a lot. What I absolutely can't stand is when people attack the supporters. What is that gaining you? As much as I hated Bernie Sanders, I've never insulted a single person for it. All it does is cement their faith in that candidate. What is it supposed to do? Is the conversation supposed to be like

"Anyone who supports Donald Trump is retarded."
"You're right! Thank you for helping me realize that my candidate is the wrong one."

Kys fam smfh
#124550 to #124536 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
>As much as I hated Bernie Sanders, I've never insulted a single person for it
Yeah, okay.
#124572 to #124550 - Elk
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Are you retarded? I can tell you're retarded because you're clearly a Bernie supporter.
#124575 to #124572 - Elk
Reply 0
(08/18/2016) [-]
That was a joke, for the record. Im retrospect, I might have actually said something like that before, though. Regardless, I'm not a public figure trying to persuade people to vote for my candidate. I get nasty when I get mad, though.
#124576 to #124575 - Elk
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(08/18/2016) [-]
in*
#124544 to #124536 - figatron ONLINE
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
thing is, there are a lot of logical reasons to attack Trump. But no one ever uses them. They go for bullshit emotional responses instead. Like dubious accusations of racism with no context, ad hominem character judgments not supported by evidence, and attacks on his rhetoric which doesn't mean anything.
#124573 to #124544 - Elk
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I agree.
#124520 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Despite lots of media giving the Trump campaign its death sentence after all the Kahn bullshit, Trump has gone up 1.3% in the last week.
#124556 to #124520 - figatron ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
It's almost delusional to think Trump is gonna go up enough to even close the gap. Trailing within the margin of error, sure. But trailing big in every swing state, it's gonna take a miracle

#124558 to #124556 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
And why is that. It's been happening more and more frequently.
#124534 to #124520 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Oh my god the delusion in this thread is delicious.

The desperate clinging to a measly rise in the polls, only because Trump has managed to go a few days without saying something horribly incendiary and the one LA times polls while every other poll shows Trump getting his ass handed to him. Meanwhile Trump has reshuffled his campaign and is about to double down on the same bullshit that caused his earlier downward spiral.

Then there are people actually under the impression that there's any truth to the baseless rumors about Hillary Clinton's health and that Trump will actually do well in the debates. There aren't 8 other candidates to hide behind this time, Trump barely knows what the fuck he's talking about and he's going one on one with a hardcore policy wonk. He's going to be eviscerated. He's already looking for excuses to get out of the debates

When it all comes crashing in on November it's going to be great.
#124549 to #124534 - seniorawesomesauce
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Dr Drew speaks out on Hillarys Health Full Interview Here's Dr. Drew discussing Hillary's health.

Also thanks for passive aggressively mentioning me and the LA times poll, which has a sample size of over 2,000 people daily which also provides more information on their demographics than some other pollsters do. Do you understand the point of a daily poll? The point is that weekly polls lag behind public opinion, having a daily poll is the closest way to having a poll follow current public opinion.

Trump has used facts and he has used numbers, while also being able to appeal to emotion. And he's certainly not looking for excuses to get out of the debates- you wanna talk about conspiracy theories but bring that up?
#124551 to #124549 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Dr. fucking Drew? The Trumpet love affair with irrelevant D-list celebrities continues. I have to admit this is a step up from Martin Shkreli, Alex Jones, and Mike Cernovich. But you'd might as well have cited Dr. Oz as like Dr. Oz regularly does, Dr. Drew is speaking outside of his area of expertise.

You cling to that LA times poll the way that Cruz supporters cling to Iowa and Sanders supporters cling to Michigan. It's impressive, but it's only one metric.
#124552 to #124551 - seniorawesomesauce
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(08/18/2016) [-]
time.com/4445182/donald-trump-debate-terms/

“I will absolutely do three debates,”

So Dr Drew, who is an actual doctor, does an interview and uses facts about Hillary and her public health history and her medications and her doctors and her treatments, which are all facts, as well as his own knowledge in medicine, and your argument is "he's a D-list celebrity". You didn't disprove anything he said.

And yes I cling to the LA times polls, I explained why, it's the most current and update to date poll with the public opinion. And yes, it is one metric. That's why it's important. In my original comment I said that 4 days ago he was down by 5 points and now he's down by less than 1. Because it follows public opinion, it's reasonable to say that future polls with show a similar trend. A week ago Reuters had a poll where Hillary was up by 6, now she's up by 5. Yougov had a poll a week ago where Hillary was up by 7, now she's up by 6. It's a trend that is also shown in the LA times poll of a declining lead from Hillary.
#124555 to #124552 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
"But I have to see the conditions."

He's already alleging that they may have been rigged for conflicts with the NFL schedule, despite the fact that the debates had been scheduled long before the NFL schedule was released. I'd also like to point out that Trump skipped or threatened to skip 4 out of 13 of the Republican Primary debates, Or 31% of debates. It seems to me that he's already acutely aware that he's going to do poorly in the debates so he's already either trying to open an escape hatch or have pretext to postulate to you meatheads how you''re so oppressed and everyone's against you following a poor debate performance. Either that or he's going to threaten to pull out and stomp his feet for concessions again.

I pointed out that Dr. Drew is speaking outside of his area of expertise. I pointed out his low-level celebrity in the sensationalism market because this makes him about as trustworthy as Oliver Stone and the "shocking revelations" about Ted Cruz's marriage/father. It's more manufactured tabloid garbage, and it becomes more apparent when you look up Dr. Drew's right-wing ties.

And we can see about those polls in a week. But considering Trump's new campaign staff, these modest gains are about to be flipped upside down, as Trump doubles down on the shit that brought about his freefall in the first place. I remember arguing with you when Trump showed some pre-convention gains and was about even with Hillary. I said he would go back to getting his ass handed to him following both conventions. And despite your "le increasingly nervous man XDDDDDD" memes, I was right. And I expect to be right again.
#124542 to #124534 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
You're literally saying what all of his opponents have been saying ever since he announced his campaign. "He's going to lose now. Oh, he didn't lose, but he'll definitely lose next time!"

#124546 to #124542 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
But now you sound like the Trump detractors during the primary.

"Y-yeah I know he's down in every other poll but I have this one poll..."
"This will be the end of Hillary Clinton's campaign h-health... muh stools..."
#124538 to #124534 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I personally would have went with calling Hillary's health failing a conspiracy theory, because there are quite a few worrisome incidents with her. So it's not quite baseless.

Otherwise quality bait. Had me going for a minute.
#124547 to #124538 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Karl Roves Republican FeelGood Math 2012 Election Night >Bait
>Implying I'm wrong.
#124548 to #124547 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
That was 4 years ago and Romney didn't play off him being wealthy very well. I think he was a good candidate. The guy in the video is a loom.

I find it funny when you actually compare the two's rallies. Trump consistently fills stadiums and Hillary can barely fill a grade school auditorium. They were paying people $50 a pop to sit in at the DNC, especially after a good portion of the people who showed were Bernie bros protesting the nomination that Hill-dog have been outed for rigging herself.

All I ever see are polls. But reality seems to show a different story.
#124553 to #124548 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Ask Bernie Sanders how much enthusiasm and rally size matters. You can't win an election appealing to your base alone, and that's all Trump has done while has base grows smaller and smaller.
#124554 to #124553 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Bernie Sanders barely lost to Hillary when she was rigging the system to give her 75% of the superdelegate vote so she could clinch the nomination.

The Democratic Party created the superdelegate system to overturn democracy and choose their own preferred candidate.

Hillary had to actually rig a system that was already meant to get the desired political candidate as the nominee, so that she could get Bernie Sanders out of the picture. Sure sounds like a deserved win to me.
#124524 to #124520 - seniorawesomesauce
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(08/18/2016) [-]
If you look at the LA times daily national poll (that RCP uses in their average), 4 days ago on August 14th, Trump was down nearly 5 points. 2 Teleprompter and 4 days later, he is now less than 1 point behind Hillary. Hopefully he can translate this into specific states like Iowa, Florida, and Ohio. Right now it's crucial that he build steam and retake some lost ground until the debates when he can start dealing killshots.
#124525 to #124524 - marinepenguin ONLINE
Reply +1
(08/18/2016) [-]
Honestly I think the debates will be the massive turning point. Especially if the rumors about Hillary's health are true and Trump really hammers her.
#124522 to #124520 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
It definitely wasn't a death blow, but it was a blunder by trump. He lost a lot of his momentum that he really needed.
#124517 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I suggest a trade. We'll give the Palestinians Israel, and in return we'll get back Byzantium.
#124539 to #124517 - figatron ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
who do we give it to? Greece? No thank you. They're barely better than a thrid world country. I'd take Israel over that any day.
#124540 to #124539 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
No it would become it's own nation of Byzantium obviously.
#124541 to #124540 - figatron ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
In that case lets take Anatolia as well and restore a new Byzantium. Its time for Turkey to go.
#124531 to #124517 - drastronomy
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Nah
Make both fuck off and reclaim the holy land
#124532 to #124531 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
The Holy lands have been Muslim far longer than they were ever Christian. Plus I could care less about them.

I'll take the great walled city of Constantinople please.
#124543 to #124532 - figatron ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
huh? the Roman Empire which controlled the Holy land held it after adopting Christianity for like 5 centuries before Islam even existed.
#124545 to #124543 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Yes. The middle East used to hold 3 of the 5 great centers of Christianity, and used to be predominantly Christian in general. Islam came in and managed to largely convert the entire subcontinent and even large parts of Africa and Europe in less than 100 years in the 7th century. It was Christian for maybe 700 years if we're generous. It's been Muslim for over a millennium.
#124580 to #124545 - theism
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Tbh all of this discussion over who owns the Holy Land brings me back to Crusader Kings. Sounds like we've got a weak claim to press.
#124533 to #124532 - drastronomy
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Constantinoble (Istanbul) has been turkshit since mohammed went over there and fucked it up
Just kick the fuckers out back to to the deserts and retake both
#124521 to #124517 - thereasonableperso
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(08/18/2016) [-]
That's a deal I can get behind,
#124492 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Celtic fans were warned not to raise Palestine flag when Celtic play Israeli team. So they raised a thousand flags.
#124505 to #124492 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Man, Palestinians are such fucking assholes.
#124506 to #124505 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
hello my diverse friend. here hab moar rapefugees
#124508 to #124506 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
Reply 0
(08/18/2016) [-]
And there are no Palestinians coming here either. Palestinians: the dindu nuffins of the Middle East
#124509 to #124508 - shekelnator
Reply 0
(08/18/2016) [-]
just enjoy more somalis
#124523 to #124509 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Nope, still no Somalis. Jesus
#124527 to #124523 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
dont lie
#124529 to #124527 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I'm not lying. You've never even been to Sweden, what do you think you know?
#124530 to #124529 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
/pol/
#124535 to #124530 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Then you don't know anything
#124537 to #124535 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
nigga please.
#124501 to #124492 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
The islamization is complete.
#124493 to #124492 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
im 100% sure ISrael wont be calmed and silent about this
#124494 to #124493 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I expect for Palestinian ""Syrian""" rapefugee blowing up celtic area
#124496 to #124494 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
because thats the only way to make sure you make your enemy be your ally. by "making" your enemy attack their own allies....
#124497 to #124496 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
ITS LIKE ANUDA SHOAH
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#124488 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Pro-Gary Johnson super PAC reports spending $30,000 on "internet web memes"
#124487 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
The Alt-Right.
#124484 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Obama Plans To Give Control of the Internet to the World at Large Why We Must Stop Him
They want more censorship and taxation of that you can be sure: www.wnd.com/2016/08/new-pushback-over-obamas-internet-giveaway/
#124483 - pebar
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Common Sense Gun Control Debunked ManOnStreet Crowder finally released his gun control vid
#124486 to #124483 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Fuck Crowder.
#124482 - braus
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(08/18/2016) [-]
"Welcome to the first Presidential debate of 2016! I'm your host, Anderson Cooper. Joining me tonight are Don Lemon and Michael Moore. We begin tonight with Mr. Trump"

Donald Trump, why do you hate Muslims?
*Trump rambles on for 90 seconds about the corrupt media*

*Anderson rolls his eyes. Don and the fat man smirk at eachother. They've got this in the bag*

"Now we move on to Miss Clinton. Our question for you is, Could you be any lovelier than you already are?"

"Well, Anderson hahahaHAHAHAHA HAAA HHHAAA!! *cough cough* ARF ARF ARF!". *reaches for her cough drop bag and stool* *WHEEEEZE!* *Collapses on the floor*

Camera shows Anderson stunned before cutting to black.
#124577 to #124482 - Elk
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(08/18/2016) [-]
**Elk used "*roll picture*"**
**Elk rolled image** Is Moore opposed to Trump? I haven't looked into it. I just know that he believes that Trump will win.
#124579 to #124577 - braus
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Oh yeah, Moore hated saying that Trump would win. His article was 90% salt.
#124476 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Why is the UK still in the EU?
#124479 to #124476 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Because the process to leave the EU isn't immediate, nor is it a technically binding decision through the referendum and the government could easily ignore it.
#124502 to #124479 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I think 'easily' is bit of an overstatement, the country would riot if they did.
#124514 to #124502 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I meant easily as in they have no legal binding to actually follow through with what the people wanted in the referendum.
#124526 to #124514 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
yeah but they'd be insane to do that.
#124528 to #124526 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Yeah probably.
#124463 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/17/2016) [-]
Russia has established 8 staging areas with 40,000 troops right outside Ukraine's borders.
#124470 to #124463 - anon
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(08/17/2016) [-]
1.6 Million NATO troops outside Russia's borders.
Don't be a one sided kike.
#124477 to #124470 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
That's a stretch.

There are around 3 million NATO troops, and at least 1/3rd of them are US military members, the majority of whom are stationed stateside. The largest concentration of NATO troops consisting of American and European troops lie in Germany and the UK at Rammestein and Lakenheath/Mildenhall respectively.

The Russian troops are right outside the Ukraine's borders, while these NATO troops have not been commuting aggressive action toward Russian forces or Russian borders.
#124480 to #124477 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Russian military exercises are not aggressive. They need to protect their borders. Let them do it. We should be doing the same near Mexico.

Russia is not a threat to America, NATO is a threat to Russia. It's time we start treating Russia as a global country that supports free trade. I see Putin as a powerful ally, not an enemy. NATO needs to die for this relationship to exist.
#124481 to #124480 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
I don't personally see Russia as a threat to America, I see them as more trying to reassert old Soviet dominance in a Western dominated world. I think the Russians would welcome better relations, especially with cooperation in conflicts in the middle east.

I do not agree with their action in the Ukraine though. I understand them, but I don't agree with them.
#124485 to #124481 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Ron Paul on Why We Need to Leave Russia Alone Russia isn't in Ukraine. Crimea VOTED to be part of Russia. That's more than we can say for the revolution in Ukraine. Putin is in the right here.
#124503 to #124485 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Paid Russian shill.
#124491 to #124485 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
That's pretty hard to say when Russian troops have died in the Ukraine and seeing how well the separatist have done.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31794523

Very few people accept the Crimea referendum as legitimate or untampered with.
#124472 to #124470 - thumbfortrump
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(08/17/2016) [-]
"Don't support the interests of your country"

- You
#124474 to #124472 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
NATO doesn't support the interests of my country.
You are just a scared Eurocuck.
Guess what bud, if you want to talk shit to Russia.
Fight them yourselves.
We are not going to fight your wars for you.

- USA
#124500 to #124474 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
If you don't support NATO you're not an American, and you should leave my country and join your commie friends, commie.
#124471 to #124470 - shekelnator
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(08/17/2016) [-]
1.6 million (((NATO))) will be sent to the oven
#124473 to #124471 - thumbfortrump
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(08/17/2016) [-]
You really think Russia can take on NATO.
#124490 to #124473 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
you think NATO can take russia down?
#124498 to #124490 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Yes.
#124507 to #124498 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
ha
#124510 to #124507 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Wait, do you actually think Russia would stand a chance?

They wouldn't even be able to win against us alone. How do you think they would fare against 28 states? You're being delusional Omar.
#124511 to #124510 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
what kind of airplane NATO gonna attack with? F16???
#124512 to #124511 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Apart from F-22, F-35, the Super Hornet, Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale, the top 5 most advanced fighters in the world? www.military-today.com/aircraft/top_10_fighter_aircraft.htm Russia's most advanced fighter comes in at 6th :^)

We'll probably bomb the shit out of them with the new Zumwalt-class destroyer, equipped with a rail gun.

#124513 to #124512 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
like a piece of cake to S500-S400-S300


to the trash your comment goes
#124515 to #124513 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
>S-500 under development, not deployed
>S-400 range 250 miles, shorter than F-35
>S-300 soviet tier defense system

And this doesn't even matter, because we have a rail gun.
How would the Russians protect their missile defense systems against a rail gun with an average of 10 rounds per minute.
#124516 to #124515 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
SUPER DEADLY F35 PRICE  Makes US Air Force General faint during press conference
>F-35

im 100% sure US citizens will faint for producing one atleast
#124518 to #124516 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
>rail gun
#124519 to #124518 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
UNDER PROJECT
#124475 to #124473 - anon
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Without American support. Yes.
Trump will take us OUT of NATO.
Trump and Putin 2016!
#124499 to #124475 - thumbfortrump
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Trump will make NATO stronger. That's literally his policy with forcing members to increase their military spendings. This is America, son. Do you really think becoming a commie ally is on the table?
#124478 to #124468 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/18/2016) [-]
Are you saying there's no proof of Russia having 40,000 men outside of the Ukraine?
#124489 to #124478 - shekelnator
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(08/18/2016) [-]
proofs?
#124467 to #124463 - thumbfortrump
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(08/17/2016) [-]
I wonder how big a chunk they'll be taking this time. Thank god we have Obama to raise stronk goncerns.

At least the memes will be fresh.
#124469 to #124467 - shekelnator
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(08/17/2016) [-]
GIF
hohols really fucked and dune goofed now
#124466 to #124463 - valeriya
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(08/17/2016) [-]
At this point in time it would be from a geopolitical point of view unwise and stupid for Russia to mount an attack directly. Proxy fund sure. Direct attack geopolitical suicide.
#124464 to #124463 - anon
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(08/17/2016) [-]
it's just military exercises, duh.
#124459 - valeriya
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(08/17/2016) [-]
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37104864

I think by now most of the world that isn't run by salafists and islamists has agreed ISIS needs to be eradicated.
#124462 to #124459 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(08/17/2016) [-]
If you kill your enemies they win.
#124461 to #124459 - thumbfortrump
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(08/17/2016) [-]
That's what happens when your constituency is made up of muslims.
#124465 to #124461 - valeriya
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(08/17/2016) [-]
Interestingly enough, Owen smith the guy who was in favour to talking to all parties. Is representing a rather homogeneous area, mostly welsh and has 80% welsh with 11% being economic migrants from outside the UK (Probably poles). Where as Corbyn who represents a metropolitan part of London, which is 75% white (Doesn't mention ethnic background only white). Doesn't seem to want to talk to them, but he is in favour of letting the cards fall where they fall.

I'm of the opinion they're both wrong and that this problem really -really- needs to be destroyed sooner rather then later. The longer you let it exist the worse a problem it is.
#124460 to #124459 - whoozy
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(08/17/2016) [-]
GIF
Are you fucking kidding me?
#124457 - shekelnator
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(08/17/2016) [-]
!!!BREAKING NEWS!!!

Turkey training up an army to take over the world
#124440 - shekelnator
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#124456 to #124440 - anon
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(08/17/2016) [-]
FAT BEN MADE POOP

REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU VOTE