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#81124 to #81082 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
Great, now they're redefining "violence" for their own political gain.

Next thing you know they'll be redefining murder so they can just throw everyone they don't like in prison.
User avatar #81122 to #81082 - lulzforgaza (03/22/2015) [-]
So I'm curious pebar, you're so libertarian. How would you handle this type of shit going on, this type of degeneracy. You seem to dislike it too?
User avatar #81131 to #81122 - pebar (03/22/2015) [-]
if anything is mandatory, there's a decent chance I'll dislike it
User avatar #81120 to #81082 - lulzforgaza (03/22/2015) [-]
Are you fucking kidding me, that's a fucking REQUIREMENT. LGBT training is now a fucking requirement, wtf.
User avatar #81123 to #81120 - lulzforgaza (03/22/2015) [-]
Isn't it a public institution anyhow? They seem to forget the constitution.
User avatar #81133 to #81123 - pebar (03/22/2015) [-]
It's private so it is not bound by the constitution, but if it claims to promote free speech, then it may be bound by contract law
#81126 to #81123 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
They don't 'forget' the constitution. They dismantle it.
#81083 to #81082 - youregaylol (03/22/2015) [-]
The left in the US and in the rest of the west (for the most part) has 3 pillars from which they exert influence.

1. Media-arguably their greatest asset
2. Higher education-academia is filled teachers who could never survive in the workforce on their own merit and have resolved to spend their days creating an institutionalized hivemind.
and 3. The lowest common denominator-although the ignorant can be used by any ideology the left has a specific allure to those who are incapable of self sufficiency.

If we want to win the future we need to break and rebuild all three.
User avatar #81121 to #81083 - lulzforgaza (03/22/2015) [-]
I feel like only a violent revolution could work.
#81078 - liberalgodess (03/22/2015) [-]
Should cemeteries be banned?
They're wasting perfectly good land on people's petty beliefs.
User avatar #81304 to #81078 - AreyouSerious (03/24/2015) [-]
Why? People are paying to be buried there, it's a business.
#81125 to #81078 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
Who's a liberal to talk about wasting things on petty beliefs?
User avatar #81086 to #81078 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
Cemeteries have a lot of symbolic value, aside from the religious. It's about remembering the dead and giving people a physical space to mourne.
#81085 to #81078 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
>People's beliefs regarding what happens to a loved one's corpse are petty because I happen to disagree with them

Your name serves you very well.
User avatar #81080 to #81078 - lulzforgaza (03/22/2015) [-]
We will run out of space at some point right? Especially with overpopulation, idk how it will be handled.
#81071 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
**anonymous rolled user thechosentroll **
Yo mama's so dumb, she thinks blackmail is when a nigger sends a letter.
User avatar #81077 to #81071 - feelythefeel (03/22/2015) [-]
Why else would they send mail?
User avatar #81068 - ribocoon (03/22/2015) [-]
Milton Friedman - Lesson of the Pencil Thoughts?
User avatar #81107 to #81068 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
*tips the free market*
#81070 to #81068 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
where did you find that?
#81069 to #81068 - pebar (03/22/2015) [-]
This is one of my favorite Milton Friedman videos
This is one of my favorite Milton Friedman videos
#81066 - pebar (03/22/2015) [-]
In case y'all hadn't heard, the ATF recently tried to ban M855 "green tip" which is basically just military surplus ammo that is readily used in AR-15s. They tried to ban it as armor piercing ammo because it can puncture standard police vests. In reality, normal police vests are only rated for handguns so even the most basic rifle round can still pierce them.   
This caused a shitstorm in the firearms community.   
   
The ban was called off and the ATF director just resigned.
In case y'all hadn't heard, the ATF recently tried to ban M855 "green tip" which is basically just military surplus ammo that is readily used in AR-15s. They tried to ban it as armor piercing ammo because it can puncture standard police vests. In reality, normal police vests are only rated for handguns so even the most basic rifle round can still pierce them.
This caused a shitstorm in the firearms community.

The ban was called off and the ATF director just resigned.
#81065 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
Who the fuck is Lyndon LaRouche?
User avatar #81106 to #81065 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/22/2015) [-]
A left-wing idiot who's a conspiracy theorist and terrible at philosophy.
User avatar #81087 to #81065 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
A conspiracy nutcase, who has made a cult-like organisation based on his ideas.
User avatar #81067 to #81065 - pebar (03/22/2015) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche
some leftist who doesn't like the current leftist establishment
#81057 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
If you don't want this man to be president in 2016, you're a faggot
#81061 to #81057 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
I live in a key battleground state.

And I vote third party

Every

Single

Time
#81048 - schnizel (03/21/2015) [-]
>mfw I will never die in battle
#81084 to #81048 - youregaylol (03/22/2015) [-]
Going into battle hoping for death is self defeating
User avatar #81089 to #81084 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
Cattle die,
kinsmen die
you yourself die;
I know one thing
which never dies:
the judgment of a dead man's life.
User avatar #81064 to #81048 - slightly ONLINE (03/22/2015) [-]
come fight me filthy bosnian meet me at the border you bloody degenerate and ill make sure your wish comes true
User avatar #81090 to #81064 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
Will do.
User avatar #81063 to #81048 - lulzforgaza (03/22/2015) [-]
The Lion
I think you will enjoy this schnizel, I felt such goosebumps while watching it
User avatar #81088 to #81063 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
10/10
#81076 to #81063 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
tfw you will never live during the reich ;_;
#81062 to #81048 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
because youll wont go into battle?
User avatar #81058 to #81048 - klowserpok (03/21/2015) [-]
Go to America, join the army and fight for Israel : DDD
After all hey are your greatest ally!
User avatar #81091 to #81058 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
: DDD
User avatar #81055 to #81048 - radiserne (03/21/2015) [-]
I think your perception of dying in battle would change if you were sent to war.
User avatar #81092 to #81055 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
No, I'm a big guy, I can take it.
User avatar #81094 to #81092 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
Have you seen a dead person irl, someone you cared about?
User avatar #81095 to #81094 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
Yes.
User avatar #81096 to #81095 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
Imagine seeing them dead, dismembered, just left to rot in the mud. If they're lucky they'll get an anonymous tombstone next to another random soldier.
Soldiers are forgotten and never take the glory. Would I fight for my country and family? No question. But I hope I'll never have to.
User avatar #81097 to #81096 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
Pain is temporary, glory is forever. All they have to do is remember my name.
User avatar #81098 to #81097 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
I saw this Vice-video from Ukraine, where an Ukranian APC had been blown to pieces. One of the drivers had been blown out of the vehicle and was dangling from a wire above the APC. Judging from his looks he was maybe 20 years old. His body was already beginning to decompose. This was dep inside pro-russian territory, so it's unlikely his body was returned to his family.
So what did he die for? His country? Imagine that the stance in Kiev shifts to that the people behind Maidan were evil, and that the soldiers were too (we've heard all about how they kill civilians). And that everyone who ever knew him choose to believe this, and try to forget about him. I personally see nothing glorious about a 20-year old kid , with his whole life ahead of him, dying like he did. Those pictures made me throw up in my mouth.
User avatar #81099 to #81098 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
I know the necessity of sacrifice but the war in Ukraine is nothing more than a proxy war made by Russia and the US just for the sake of conflict.
User avatar #81100 to #81099 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
Exactly. Dying for the right cause is glorious. But being to forced into a war like that is just tragic.
User avatar #81054 to #81048 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
You could always go out like Dennis Clem.
User avatar #81050 to #81048 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
buy a gun and charge into a police station if you want to so badly
User avatar #81031 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
I don't think gay people should be able to adopt. Yeah I said it, I think it's morally wrong to raise a child without a mother and a father. That goes for you too single mother cougars.
#81079 to #81031 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
You are changing.
User avatar #81051 to #81031 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
They'd probably still be better than foster homes and orphanages though.
User avatar #81111 to #81051 - schnizel (03/22/2015) [-]
Being raised by gaggots?
User avatar #81059 to #81051 - klowserpok (03/21/2015) [-]
Yeah. I've heard they are. Though it doesn't mean that same-sex coupes are as good (on average) at parenting as normal couples
A friend of my dads was raised in an orphanage Which I think was in Germany , the stories I've herd of those places can be downright terrifying. You think the Church has a bad reputation with little kids? Some orphanage workers would literally molest kids and burn them if they told.
User avatar #81052 to #81051 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
shit I forgot about that completely
#81047 to #81031 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
I agree. No where throughout nature have children ever been raised by two men or two women. I think allowing homosexual couples to have children is selfish. The child's development and needs come before their desire to have a kid.

Inb4 homophobe
User avatar #81046 to #81031 - radiserne (03/21/2015) [-]
So, ban single parents?
#81056 to #81046 - cabbagemayhem (03/21/2015) [-]
It sucks to have a single parents too, but it's better to be with your one biological parent than any alternative. That's different than a establishing two completely new foster parents.
User avatar #81101 to #81056 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
Well, a gay couple who are friends to my parents have a son together, he's 7 years old now. He's playing vidya, does judo and hangs with his friends. I wouldn't be to tell they were gay if I hadn't been told. As long as the kid is doing well, I don't see any problems with it. After all, it's what's best for the kid, and not what's best for everyone else, that matters.
#81103 to #81101 - cabbagemayhem (03/22/2015) [-]
Just because he plays Judo doesn't mean his life is perfect. I haven't met a single person who grew up in a single parent home who wasn't missing something, or someone whose parent remarried after childhood who wasn't fucked up. Of the one person I met whose parent remarried gay, it's even worse.
User avatar #81104 to #81103 - radiserne (03/22/2015) [-]
I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm saying it's good and that he doesn't mind that he has two fathers. The only downside I can see is him getting bullied for it, but that can hardly be blamed on his parents. Also economically, I've seen more gay couples with a healthy economy than I've seen straight couples.
#81105 to #81104 - cabbagemayhem (03/22/2015) [-]
I haven't.
#81022 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
NIGGER

IS

DO

BECAUSE

NIGGER
#81020 - youregaylol (03/21/2015) [-]
So heres a new one   
   
What do you guys think of the Special Olympics?   
   
I just recently moonlighted as one of the standing LP's at their local figure skating event.   
   
On one hand it was nice to see them participating and happy, but on another hand it almost felt like a zoo. Their parents/coaches were acting like animal tamers and guided their every move, save when they started to perform.   
   
I understand logically these people have the mental capacities of children, and sometimes even less, but it just feels demoralizing to me.
So heres a new one

What do you guys think of the Special Olympics?

I just recently moonlighted as one of the standing LP's at their local figure skating event.

On one hand it was nice to see them participating and happy, but on another hand it almost felt like a zoo. Their parents/coaches were acting like animal tamers and guided their every move, save when they started to perform.

I understand logically these people have the mental capacities of children, and sometimes even less, but it just feels demoralizing to me.
#81072 to #81020 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
In Nazi Germany the mentally handicapped were executed.
#81081 to #81072 - youregaylol (03/22/2015) [-]
They were killed in Sparta as well.

Different times, different circumstances.
#81007 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
www.bbc.com/news/31989874

Conservative Correctness in action.
#81018 to #81007 - youregaylol (03/21/2015) [-]
When african children were forced to speak in foreign languages in schools it was colonialism and cultural suppression.
#81033 to #81018 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
Because the goal was to wipe out the local language.
#81038 to #81035 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
User avatar #81043 to #81038 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
Most of those are actually valid points of some hypocritical statements made by some far right people on this board, I agree to an extent for sure.
#81039 to #81038 - youregaylol (03/21/2015) [-]
we know its you
User avatar #81021 to #81018 - thekame (03/21/2015) [-]
>Complaints were received from people who lost family in Afghanistan
kek
User avatar #81034 to #81021 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
It's not even about that, I just don't like this multiculturalism garbage. It's god damn America, you speak American English, you assimilate here. God this stupid lib shit annoys me.
#81074 to #81034 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
America is a multicultural society.
#81040 to #81034 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
"Officials said the school's foreign language department organised for different pledge translations to be read in celebration of National Foreign Language Week."
User avatar #81044 to #81040 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
>National Foreign Language Week
Exactly, this multiculturalism garbage.
#81053 to #81044 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
Sounds more like an attempt to get children interested in learning a foreign language. Which is a useful skill.
User avatar #81017 to #81007 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
>conservative correctness

Kek, none such exists. It's called reality you stupid hippie fagget.
#81037 to #81017 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
Torture = Enhanced interrogation
French fries = Freedom fries
Welfare queen= Minority woman
Pro-Family= Anti-gay

Trying to re-brand attempts to introduce creationism into school curriculum as "teach the controversy".

Changing the names of committees in the House of Representatives by substituting the commie word "labor" for the more neutral "workforce".
User avatar #81041 to #81037 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
You know I spent time trying to go through one by one and explain how it isn't correctness but I just can't lie. I guess this type of "we don't like the way you are" mentality exists on the right too, I wouldn't exactly call it Conservative Correctness but I see where your coming from. I am for the traditional nuclear family culture and not the swaying degeneracy that is increasing in the West, am I on the opposite side of political correctness by wanting to silence degeneracy? Maybe, but I'm right though. And an eye for an eye.




User avatar #81045 to #81041 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
BTW I was specifically referring to the Pro family points and just that whole idea, some of the other ones are stupid.
User avatar #81042 to #81041 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
wtf why is there so much space
#81075 to #81042 - anonymous (03/22/2015) [-]
You have autism kike.
User avatar #81014 to #81007 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
It wouldn't make sense even if they were at war with an Arabic nation and they aren't even that!
#81012 to #81007 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
In murrica we speak murrican.
User avatar #81010 to #81007 - schnizel (03/21/2015) [-]
That's common sense.
User avatar #80981 - feelythefeel (03/21/2015) [-]
What happened to that senate idea? I really liked it.
User avatar #81004 to #80981 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
But i'll try to make the rules and idea's for now.
User avatar #81003 to #80981 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
I don't really have the time to put it together at the moment.
#80990 to #80981 - youregaylol (03/21/2015) [-]
kanadetenshi
#80993 to #80990 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
we need to make some political parties
Nat Soc maybe 2 types, one more extreme that wants to kill all joos and one less severe
Conservative-esq
Libertarian/economic liberalism
Democratic Socialism
Communist-esq
Labour-esq?

please comment people on what types we should have and then we will go about actually seeing what they believe in/run on
User avatar #81109 to #80993 - jewishcommunazi (03/22/2015) [-]
Because we don't have that many people here, I'd say only one Nat Soc, merge democratic socialism with labour because it's usually pretty much the same and maybe merge conservative-esq with economic liberalism.
User avatar #81060 to #80993 - feelythefeel (03/22/2015) [-]
I'm all for making a nat soc party.
User avatar #80999 to #80993 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
Maybe we should have an Anarchist movement as well. We'd need an anarchist to represent it though.
#81019 to #80999 - youregaylol (03/21/2015) [-]
lol u dumb
User avatar #81015 to #80999 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
kek no
#80956 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Wow, I am pretty proud of myself to be honest. I didn't force this outcome or anything, I answered the questions honestly, especially looking at the difference between strongly and non-strongly which I find to be an important part of the test.
User avatar #81008 to #80956 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
Doesn't that put you pretty close to the mainstream?
User avatar #81027 to #81008 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
No. My real views are definitely not mainstream...
User avatar #81024 to #81008 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
The goal isn't to be not mainstream, you hipster faggot.
It's to have the right answers
User avatar #81029 to #81024 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
I've never seen you curse at someone like that :^ )
*insert le frea merket jok*
User avatar #81028 to #81024 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
I'm aware. Lulz has just projected a far-right point of view a lot.
User avatar #81030 to #81028 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
And that's mainstream? Nationalism and more free market is mainstream? Nah mate.
User avatar #81032 to #81030 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
No that's not mainstream, but your current position on the political compass apparently puts you pretty close to a lot of mainstream politicians around the world.

www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012
www.politicalcompass.org/canada2011
User avatar #81036 to #81032 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
We all know that's complete BS. I've seen this stupid compass put the UKIP party all the way to the far top of the blue part, like 2 points off the edge.

And just looking at this compass and were it places all the Canadian parties, you literally could not be more wrong if you tried.

>green party is in the middle
>cons and libs are hitler
Orbital sides.
#81002 to #80956 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
tfw I'm not even as fascist as I thought I was ;_;
User avatar #80996 to #80956 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
so are you a neocon then?
User avatar #81016 to #80996 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
A le what?
User avatar #81023 to #81016 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
a warmongering, socially-controlling, hypocritical republican
User avatar #81025 to #81023 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
Well I see with what your going in but could you maybe delve in more? You should know my views on things by now I'd think. I'm a nationalist, conservative and pro-capitalist all mixed together. I don't know if that makes me a neo-con.
User avatar #81026 to #81025 - lulzforgaza (03/21/2015) [-]
*****going at
#80958 to #80956 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
For those of you who have been here long enough to remember what I first got. This is basically my evolution in political thought.

Don't worry, I'll try not to go capitalist Hitler on you guys.
User avatar #80957 to #80956 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
knew you werent purple you nigger
User avatar #80959 to #80957 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Yeah I know, I don't really care to be. I'm pro-capitalist but too conservative to be on the purple.
User avatar #80962 to #80959 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
>was green when first came here
>angry at greens who first come here

ok lol


so what about...idk, what else was on the test...

i remember a few questions about art, race, quite a lot about religion

give me your opinion rundown
User avatar #80963 to #80962 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Ask me anything and I will tell you what I answered.
User avatar #80964 to #80963 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
if we had time and patience id go through each question, im genuinely curious how you get such different placements based on that simple test

to simplify it

what do you think about
-corporations, are their interests more important than those of the people, religions or nations?
-superiority of certain races
-"Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified"
-rich taxes
-abortion
-death penalty
-abstract art and art in general
-"you cannot be moral without being religious"
-how far on LGBT scale are you (where do you draw the line, gay marriage, adoption etc.)

there are so many statements in this test id like to discuss with someone on the opposite side of the compass but these will have to do for now

probably wont be able to reply until tomorrow



User avatar #80977 to #80964 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
>corporations
Buildings don't have interests; people have interest. Corporations are made up of people. An easy way to think about that is to say I care about my interests more than I care about your interests. This is the way the world works. I care more about my steaks being too dry than I care about some children starving in Africa. Saying you dislike corporations shifts you left because you do not understand that capitalism takes this "corporate greed" and turns it into something productive.

>rich taxes
one of the reasons people think the rich are too highly taxed is because they believe they arrange their finances in such a way that exempts them from certain taxes. People are that if you lower the tax rate, you can encourage people to not use these exemptions and you can end up collecting more tax revenue.

>abstract art
I think there was a Q&A on the website about this. If you say it shouldn't be art, it makes you more authoritarian because you think you have a right to tell people what they can and cannot do, or something like that.
User avatar #80982 to #80977 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
I do not dislike corporations and agree with what you said, that can't be the thing leaning me left.

the taxes one is too much speculation. as if rich people wouldnt still use the tax exempting tactics even if there are smaller taxes. with higher taxes you can at least be sure of a tangibly bigger tax revenue, at least in the short run.
also, you could make the taxes somewhere in between higher and lower but pass new regulations that make finance arranging illegal or much harder to do.

>art
i wasnt aiming to see if you think abstract art is art, just if you think about the position of abstract and any other art in modern society.
some say its useless and should not be taught in schools and should be repressed in favor of more practical skills and studies, since it has no application in the real world
User avatar #80985 to #80982 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
"If economic globalization is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations."
Globalization promotes most unrestricted free international trade. Trade inherently benefits the traders involved. If you try to make it serve humanity, then you will likely end up restricting trade and making people worse off. If you agree with the question, you are left.

""from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a fundamentally good idea"
This is a direct quote from Marx I believe. If you agree, you are left.

"It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product."
Consumers buy want they buy because they want the item. If you think think you should have control over what people can and cannot buy, then are you more left.

"Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold."
The economy is heavily based on trading private property. if you oppose trade, then you will lean left.

"The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders."
The idea behind this statement if companies have a moral obligation to serve people outside the company, then people outside the company have a claim on what people can and cannot do with their stuff. The weakens property rights and leads down the path to socialism and the destruction of society.
This is based on an article by Milton Friedman, one of the most influential economists in the last century. If you disagree with the statement, you are left.
www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/friedman-soc-resp-business.html

to name a few....
User avatar #80971 to #80964 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Some good questions, I'll probably answer later since I don't feel too much like it now.
#81161 to #80971 - slightly ONLINE (03/22/2015) [-]
you have time to thumb down entire board pages and yet not enough time to respond
User avatar #80973 to #80971 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
fair enough
User avatar #80960 to #80959 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
or to nationalistic you could say.
User avatar #80933 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
Anyone have any strong opinions on nuclear power?
User avatar #81005 to #80933 - radiserne (03/21/2015) [-]
I'd rather pay more for energy and have it non-nuclear. Yes, the chances for a environmental catastrophe are minuscule, but regardless still there. Just look at Fukushima. Just think of the impact if all that radiation had made Tokyo uninhabitable.
But I agree with pebar that fusion is the future of energy.
User avatar #80976 to #80933 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
Fusion will be one of the greenest and most efficient energy sources once it's figured out.
Fission, what we have now, is still more or less good for the environment as long as necessary safety is taken care of and waste is disposed of properly.

It is way more of a realistic alternative than solar or wind.
User avatar #80936 to #80933 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Why not?

Environmental energy could be the future but its not nearly efficient enough right now and requires more research and funding.
#80923 - anonymous (03/20/2015) [-]
I feel I've made some good progress since the last time i took this; My goal is to be dead center in the middle, and some to the right if need be.
User avatar #81000 to #80994 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
You're very strict!
#80934 to #80923 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
I really thought I would be more toward the right than that! I am quite libertarian though.
Do you think answers would change if you had been drinking?
User avatar #80937 to #80934 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Jesus christ I am disappointed in you...
User avatar #80940 to #80937 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
For drinking?
User avatar #80941 to #80940 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
obviously not, for your wrong answers.
User avatar #80949 to #80941 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
Theres not really wrong answers to these questions
#80979 to #80949 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
when you answers can result in the deaths of millions of people, they are wrong
User avatar #81001 to #80979 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
Also, how many Libertarian regimes do you think have killed lots of their people?
User avatar #80998 to #80979 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
I doubt my answers to this poll will have such far-reaching consequences.
#80989 to #80979 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
Christianity is wrong?
#80995 to #80989 - cabbagemayhem (03/21/2015) [-]
He said "deaths of millions of people", not "salvation of millions of people"
User avatar #80945 to #80941 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
I don't think I'm really that far left though
User avatar #80968 to #80945 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
What kinds of questions do you think shifted you that far left?
User avatar #80997 to #80968 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
I think I probably agreed on some of the economic questions which would put me to the Left but I didn't strongly agree.
#80931 to #80923 - cabbagemayhem (03/20/2015) [-]
If you're in the center you're only half-right. One side is based on rarely understood knowledge and history, the other side is based on hunches and common ignorance. On the other axis, one side is based on the belief that people are generally good and the desire to make one's own choices, and the other side is based on the belief that people are naturally bad and the desire to control them.
User avatar #80980 to #80931 - akkere (03/21/2015) [-]
Why exactly would one want to stray closer to one side than the other? Authoritarianism for instance has the somewhat peculiar idea of humans being bad so they should be controlled by humans somehow deemed "good" to the extreme, but from a lighter perspective you have standard laws and principle that, if balanced with the opposing axis, can have fair judgment done by the people such as trials by jury and the like.
#80984 to #80980 - cabbagemayhem (03/21/2015) [-]
That's why rational Libertarians like Milton Friedman appear only slightly Libertarian on the scale. Rule and order are an important part of that axis that I left out in my initial description.
EDIT: Fixed image
User avatar #80986 to #80984 - akkere (03/21/2015) [-]
In terms of the authoriatarian+libertarian axis, he seems to be pretty close enough to center. What factors drives him to the right, his specific economic policy?
#80991 to #80986 - cabbagemayhem (03/21/2015) [-]
Like I said, there are two factors that play into the Libertarian/Authoritarian scale, so it appears center, but it is really the mashing of two different ideas. What puts him on the right is his apparent lack of ignorance: a well-thought-out economic philosophy, and the realization that people do better unequally in freedom than equally in slavery.
User avatar #81006 to #80991 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
Being on the left does not mean you're ignorant.
#81009 to #81006 - cabbagemayhem (03/21/2015) [-]
You're right. It could just mean you have more heart than experience, or that you have a plenty of knowledge and just hate people. I'm sorry, I don't usually like to speak in extremes, but there's just no justifying collectivism. It's the bane of humanity.
User avatar #81013 to #81009 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
It works in kibbutz though and in cooperative societies. I think the problem is with authoritarianism rather than collectivism.
#81049 to #81013 - cabbagemayhem (03/21/2015) [-]
Now let me be clear, collectivism can work well in small, moral, homogenous communities. I'm only referring to its implementation on a national scale. Such systems rely on force and must be authoritarian, but that's not the only reason it doesn't work. It cannot solve the fundamental economic problem efficiently and distribute limited goods where they are most needed, because no one can spend your money for you better than you can, and no one knows your needs and values better than you.
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User avatar #80938 to #80931 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Kinda agree. I'm going to make a post about nationalism and controlling later on today I think.
#80928 to #80923 - slightly ONLINE (03/20/2015) [-]
damn...thats much more left than i thought...
User avatar #80970 to #80928 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
were you expecting to be more to the right?
User avatar #80972 to #80970 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
much more to the center, yes
User avatar #80974 to #80972 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
and why were you expecting that?
User avatar #80975 to #80974 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
i dont like to be associated with leftists, a lot of them are tards

guess i have no choice now
User avatar #80978 to #80975 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
A lot of them are tards because they do not understand capitalism. There are many questions that can shift you left if you choose based on "people should be nice to each other" instead of basing it on reality.
User avatar #80939 to #80928 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
Please die.
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User avatar #80942 to #80939 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
at least im not in purple field
User avatar #80966 to #80965 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
:^)
User avatar #80943 to #80942 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
You know what... just stop talking. Jesus christ you sound even more stupid.
User avatar #80947 to #80943 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
bet you didnt even solve the test

if you did post results ya pussy
User avatar #80950 to #80947 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
I've been a regular on this board for like 2 years now. I've done the test around a dozen times... I can do it again if you want.
User avatar #80953 to #80950 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
or just post the last one if you have it in one of your alt's recent pictures
User avatar #80952 to #80950 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
alright fine, if you feel like it do it

i just dont get how anyone can get right-sided answers from that test
User avatar #80946 to #80943 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
nice argumentation
User avatar #80948 to #80946 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
If you think the purple section is the worst one there is not even a point. Just don't come back to this board newfag.
User avatar #80951 to #80948 - slightly ONLINE (03/21/2015) [-]
yeah no

this is a board for political discussion

if you dont have anyone to argue against then its just a huge circlejerk
#80924 to #80923 - anonymous (03/20/2015) [-]
#80932 to #80924 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
I'm not sure that I'm really this economically left.
User avatar #80969 to #80932 - pebar (03/21/2015) [-]
what questions do you think shifted you that far left?
User avatar #80987 to #80969 - mixednuts (03/21/2015) [-]
Probably strongly agreeing with statements like "If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations."
#80927 to #80924 - pebar (03/20/2015) [-]
>>#80923, Don't set a goal of where you want to be...... that skews your results.
Be honest with your answers.
Learn about the world.
#80992 to #80927 - anonymous (03/21/2015) [-]
but i was honest
#80961 to #80927 - lulzforsyria (03/21/2015) [-]
tfw more capitalist then pebar
#80907 - radiserne (03/20/2015) [-]
Tomorrow the Danes commemorate the 70th year of the britbongs bombing of the Institut Jeanne d'Arc, also known as the French School in Copenhagen, during WW2. The school, run by nuns, housed around 500 children, many of them orphans who lived in the school.
On March 21st, the britbongs conducted Operation Carthage, a bombing raid with the sole objective to destroy the Gestapo HQ called "Shellhuset" . For reasons unknown, several britbong bombers mistook The French School for Shellhuset (the two buildings looked nothing like each other, and there were several kilometers between them). During the next 10 minutes, several firebombs were dropped on the school.
.250 people were killed, most of them children, and thousands were left without homes. Almost all the children that managed to survive developed PSTD later in life, and it remained the greatest civil catastrophe in Danish history until the Schengen-agreement.
Why the britbongs mistook children and nuns for nazis is still unknown to this day.
#80930 to #80907 - valeriya (03/20/2015) [-]
Today I learned that people die.
User avatar #80915 to #80907 - marinepenguin ONLINE (03/20/2015) [-]
War is always going to yield unwanted casualties on both sides. That's inevitable.

Plus, British planes bombed at night, and unwanted targets were constantly hit.
User avatar #80916 to #80915 - radiserne (03/20/2015) [-]
This was during the day.
User avatar #80917 to #80916 - marinepenguin ONLINE (03/20/2015) [-]
Still changes nothing. With the way that things like this usually worked out in WW2, bombing the wrong targets on accident was common. American bombers, which also bombed during the day, would drop their bombs if they came under too much fire and thought the plane was going to go down, regardless of where their bombs were supposed to land.

Implying that there aren't going to be unintended casualties in a total war such as WW2 is simply fiction.

I can almost garuntee you that neither the British command, nor the bombing crews, intended to fire bomb a building of orphans.
User avatar #80918 to #80917 - radiserne (03/20/2015) [-]
Lets look at the facts:
- It was daylight, no clouds.
- The french school was about 3 km away from Gestapo HQ.
- There were kids outside going to and from the school.
- It's placed one of the widest streets in Copenhagen. Shellhuset was known for being placed at a very dense place.
- The two buildings looked absolutely nothing like each other.

There's legitimate mistakes, and then there's pure retardation.
Furthermore, there was never really "war" in Denmark, since we were occupied throughout the war. Britbong bomb raids were not common here. And one of the very few bomb raids they actually make only manages to kill 250 innocent people.
User avatar #80920 to #80918 - marinepenguin ONLINE (03/20/2015) [-]
Then also realise that you are in a steel plane about 15,000 feet up and are relying on very primitive sighting technology. 3km at that height is about 6 inches. If you aren't right over the target, you probably aren't going to hit it. That's exactly why firebombing became a tactic, more damage on the target and less need for a direct hit. Same reason why we sent 150 bombers for a handful of targets, massed bombing raids.

You'd also be completely unable to tell there were children on the ground.

You clearly have no idea how WW2 of bombing tactics and circumstances the crew had to deal with. A 3km distance between targets is literally nothing. Bombers would sometimes level the wrong town entirely because they went off course. It's war. War is hell, get used to the idea.
User avatar #80921 to #80920 - radiserne (03/20/2015) [-]
Its you, not me, who doesn't have a clue. You see, they were supposed to make a very strategic bombing, since Gestapo had taken prisoners and placed them in Shellhuset, so the British wouldn't bomb them. This meant that the British bombers were supposed to hit the the building from the side, so they didn't kill the prisoners who were on the top floor.
Interviews with surviving pilots from the raid, who did manage to hit the right house, said they didn't understand why their colleagues had hit the french school, since:
1: it was so far away from target
2: they should have been able to see the children on the ground, SINCE they flew in LOW altitude to avoid German radar (this was 1945, so they did have radar).
User avatar #80922 to #80921 - marinepenguin ONLINE (03/20/2015) [-]
Then that's a very different story. I was under the idea that this was your standard bombing raid. Not a special mission with different bombing parameters.

Regardless, it was still extremely likely to be a terrible mistake, and nothing more. Everything is easy in hindsight.
User avatar #80919 to #80918 - britbong ONLINE (03/20/2015) [-]
Mistakes happen, they were only 3 km off after probably travelling more than a few hundred. This was world war 2, no satellite navigation or laser guided missiles, only dumb bombs and physical maps.
#80926 to #80919 - anonymous (03/20/2015) [-]
>>#80921,
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#80900 - liberalgodess (03/20/2015) [-]
Why do anti-feminists bitch about the draft when there's no chance of it happening?
Why do anti-feminists bitch about the draft when there's no chance of it happening?
#80909 to #80900 - anonymous (03/20/2015) [-]
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#80904 to #80900 - cabbagemayhem (03/20/2015) [-]
The draft doesn't exist anymore just like World Wars don't exist anymore: we haven't had one in a long time, and hopefully we never do, but getting complacent about it is a horrible fucking plan.
The draft doesn't exist anymore just like World Wars don't exist anymore: we haven't had one in a long time, and hopefully we never do, but getting complacent about it is a horrible fucking plan.
User avatar #80901 to #80900 - redandgreen (03/20/2015) [-]
Because it still exists in a lot of Western countries and some have reintroduced it, like Ukraine and Lithuania.
#80929 to #80901 - valeriya (03/20/2015) [-]
Ukraine and western, really shouldn't be in the same category, we don't even share an alphabet yet alone values and culture.
User avatar #80935 to #80929 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
There's still lots of other countries with cpnscription though
#80954 to #80935 - valeriya (03/21/2015) [-]
True. Nothing inherently wrong with conscription, just be prepared to bury a lot of people. Still on the Ukraine note not western
User avatar #80955 to #80954 - redandgreen (03/21/2015) [-]
I didn't say anything about whether I though it was good or bad
User avatar #80892 - lulzforcrimea (03/20/2015) [-]
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#80895 to #80892 - anonymous (03/20/2015) [-]
tfw crimea
tfw crimea
#80886 - anonymous (03/20/2015) [-]
muh redpill
muh redpill
User avatar #80914 to #80886 - mixednuts (03/20/2015) [-]
Wasn't this Muhammad Ali when he was still in the Nation of Islam?
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