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#68106 - bitchpleaseshutup (08/16/2014) [-]
>not supporting Israel

Are you guys gay?
#68107 to #68106 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
>supporting a country who violated over 60 UN resolutions    
>being this JIDF
>supporting a country who violated over 60 UN resolutions
>being this JIDF
User avatar #68115 to #68107 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
>supporting countries with terrorist organizations in them
>supporting countries with sharia law
>supporting countries that literally wanna wipe you off the map
>supporting countries that praised 911
>supporting countries that are turning Europe into Eurabia and soon North-A too

>being this MIDF
#68119 to #68115 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
>supporting a country who supports said sharia terrorist organisations in other countries   
>support a country which sides with Wahhabi arabs   
>support a country that praised 911  counts for Israel too    
>supporting countries that literally has a plan to wipe you off the map  Samson Option    
>supporting a country who flies Africans to Europe    
   
>being this JIDF
>supporting a country who supports said sharia terrorist organisations in other countries
>support a country which sides with Wahhabi arabs
>support a country that praised 911 counts for Israel too
>supporting countries that literally has a plan to wipe you off the map Samson Option
>supporting a country who flies Africans to Europe

>being this JIDF
#68131 to #68119 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
1. Bullshit.
2. Bullshit.
3. Bullshit.
4. The Samson Option is a "deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence." Every nation with nuclear power has a nuclear deterrent plan.
5. You mean people traveling from Africa to Europe sometimes pass through Israel?

WTF kind of misinformation is this? Do you even believe this stuff yourself?
#68133 to #68131 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
1. Israel has multiple times called air-strikes into Syria and Israeli stuff was found among the FSA stratrisks.com/geostrat/13310
2. Saudi Arabia / FSA etc.
3. "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor." ~ Bibi N.
4. look more into the Samson Option ;)
5. www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.567450
#68139 to #68133 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/17/2014) [-]
Also, post anything you want to say to me here (not my profile). My supervisor is commonsense. It doesn't take some special interest group (e.g. JIDF) to see through your bullshit. Would you rather me leave and let you post propaganda that you should know is false, or would you rather me tell you why it's false so you can take a sound stance on issues and find yourself in the right?
#68138 to #68133 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/17/2014) [-]
1. The Syrian conflict is more of a civil war than terrorism. The FSA was started by members of the Syrian army because they refused to fire on their own peacefully protesting people. The link you posted has a sketchy source, but there's at least two reliable reporting agencies that estimate the number of foreign combatants in the FSA to be minimal. [1] The U.N.-sponsored "Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic" said rebels had committed war crimes, but they "did not reach the gravity, frequency and scale" of those by the state forces. [2]

2. What countries are those? And, that's nothing like outright supporting countries under Sharia law. One's just a religion, the other is a set of enforced laws that violate human rights every day.

3. That's just a statement. It doesn't mean he wanted the twin towers to fall, he just stated the effect it had on them. Is that all you have? Other countries openly praise 9/11.

4. What do I need to look for? I've found nothing of significance and plausibility from all the anti-Israeli posts on this board to pique my interest in chasing ducks.

5. They didn't fly Africans to Europe. They went voluntarily as a strike against Israeli migration policies.

References:
1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army#Foreign_combatants
2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army#War_Crimes_Allegations
#68157 to #68138 - alimais (08/17/2014) [-]
syrianassassin also know much about the conflict and the source on 95% of FSA are foreigner comes from Spiegel

'NYT' Cuts References to AIPAC in Syria Debate
www.thenation.com/blog/176001/nyt-cuts-key-references-aipac-pressure-syria-debate#
AIPAC to go all-out on Syria
www.politico.com/story/2013/09/aipac-syria-96344.html?ml=la
Syria army confiscates Israeli-made arms
www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/12/02/337755/syria-army-confiscates-israelimade-arms/
Israel ‘furious’ with White House for leak on Syria strike
www.timesofisrael.com/israel-furious-with-white-house-for-leak-on-syria-strike/
U.S. right to arm Syrian rebels, says Israeli president
uk.reuters.com/article/2013/06/18/uk-israel-peres-idUKBRE95H02F20130618
U.S. Officials: Israel behind Recent Syria Airstrike
www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/169879#.UgYSuT_pi2X
Israel & FSA attacking and killing Palestinians same day!
english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107120028
FSA leader Aroor Says Attacking Israel Is a Crime
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Israeli Weapons Found in Syria
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FSA in Syria Spiritual Leaders Says MB Is an Ally of Israel, Always Been
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#68175 to #68157 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/17/2014) [-]
Image - America hasn't support Al-Qaeda since they became a terrorist group. The Wikipedia page no longer says that since the snapshot was taken. It's not dated, so for all I know someone put it there just for the screenshot. Also, pasting an image of an Israeli flag on it doesn't somehow implicate Israel.

Most of those link titles just should like normal everyday politics or anti-Israeli propaganda that I've already debunked a thousand times. Otherwise, I see nothing outrageous, let alone worthy of vilifying Israel over her neighbors. There may be a few foreigners fighting with the FSA, but nothing significant that would make it anything other than a civil war. Bashar might complain about the few, but it doesn't address all the Syrians fighting. And, other nations supporting the side you think is right in a civil war is completely normal. It's the people's choice to fight and they're helpless without supplies.
#68272 to #68246 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/19/2014) [-]
1. I can't find a point anytime in the last year that Wikipedia page was in that state. It was probably for a very short period of time. That wording had no factual basis, so I'm not surprised.

2. Al-Julani wasn't removed from a "blacklist", he was removed from the top 10 most wanted terrorists. That doesn't mean the U.S. is suddenly giving him a stamp of approval. It just means there worse people. Seriously, ALL of this propaganda hinges on twisting words and taking things out of context. Wake up, people!

3. That reference seems sketchy, and no doubt, the first reliable source it cites is a CNN blog taken out of context and applied to the wrong group. It assumes the rebels are Al-Qaeda, which we know the FSA are not, and then speculates on our intentions. They aren't the only ones we give safe-handling training to to try to prevent their use and effect the most good. The article is just a conspiracy theory to appeal to what you want to believe. It's no evidence the U.S. was doing anything it shouldn't.
#68179 to #68175 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
yes they did support al-qaida

as a syrian i confirm alimais

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Al-Nusra Front is a branch from al qaida: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

Islamic Front (Syria) in the section of Affiliation with Al-Qaeda: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Front_(Syria)

they are all supported by the sand niggers below us and the MURICA!
and more and more shit to be said about those armed terrorist groups

of course if you are american, what will you do now is deny the truth and accept the told lies
#68233 to #68179 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/18/2014) [-]
I addressed your first link in my last post. It doesn't link America to Al-Qaeda. The image he posted was either a forgery or a mistake.

Concerning your other references, I assume you meant to say that America supports Al-Nusra, and therefore helps Al-Qaeda by proxy. That's not true either. America officially considers Al-Nusra a terrorist organization. Quoted from your own reference: "The US Government has been sending weapons to rebels in Syria since at least late 2013, and perhaps as early as 2011, during the begininning phases of the conflict. These weapons have been reportedly falling into hands of extremists, such as Al-Nusra and ISIL" That is unfortunate, but we don't give them weapons. They take them from groups we try to help.

The Syrian civil war is mostly between Syrians. You are both the same people, brothers and sisters, seeing from two different perspectives. The FSA only fights because they couldn't bear to see their own people oppressed by their own government.

You can hate America all you want and pretend like we are stupid and refuse to see the truth, but we didn't get here by being ignorant or suppressing dissenting viewpoints. We got here by defending free speech and human rights, not each for ourselves, but for each other and those who can't for themselves. Only then are you free yourself, and only in a free society are you free to grow.
#68241 to #68233 - syrianassassin (08/19/2014) [-]
you are a unique type of stupid

>USA support FSA
>al qaida is a friend of FSA and supported by FSA in syria

and still they are supporting them
#68248 to #68241 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (08/19/2014) [-]
You can say that all you want, but it's not going to make it true. I saw no reliable source of the FSA supporting any extremists.

"The FSA is in stark contrast with groups such as Jabhat al-Nusra which have been designated as terrorist by several Western countries; this has led to a rift between the secular forces fighting the Syrian government and al-Qaeda linked groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS, often resulting in deaths. The FSA maintains good relations with moderate Islamist factions such as the Islamic Front." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

If you're reduced to name-calling, then I'd like to close with: good luck in the development of your country, and I hope you see the importance of freedom for everyone in your society. I also hope you and your country has another look at Christianity because that is where real freedom comes from.

EDIT: clarify first paragraph
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#68105 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
Go to one of those image boards    
   

			
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And bring something back which sums up the stereotype or your views of that country
Go to one of those image boards

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And bring something back which sums up the stereotype or your views of that country
#68137 to #68105 - feelythefeel (08/17/2014) [-]
Oh this'll do for Russia nicely.

Because they're fucking insane.
#68071 - pebar (08/15/2014) [-]
www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GF0LP20140815   
   
(Reuters) - Minutes before a police officer shot him dead, Michael Brown had become a suspect in the theft of cigars from a store, according to police reports released on Friday after days of protests in a St. Louis suburb over the unarmed black teenager's death.   
   
But the officer who shot Brown was unaware that the 18-year-old was a suspect in the robbery of the nearby convenience store, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said at a news conference.   
   
Rather, Officer Darren Wilson, 28, shot and killed Michael Brown during an altercation after Wilson asked Brown to move out of the street onto a sidewalk, Jackson said.
www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GF0LP20140815

(Reuters) - Minutes before a police officer shot him dead, Michael Brown had become a suspect in the theft of cigars from a store, according to police reports released on Friday after days of protests in a St. Louis suburb over the unarmed black teenager's death.

But the officer who shot Brown was unaware that the 18-year-old was a suspect in the robbery of the nearby convenience store, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said at a news conference.

Rather, Officer Darren Wilson, 28, shot and killed Michael Brown during an altercation after Wilson asked Brown to move out of the street onto a sidewalk, Jackson said.
User avatar #68091 to #68071 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
He a gud boy he din do nuffin.

But seriously. Can I really say I didn't expect this?
User avatar #68072 to #68071 - pebar (08/15/2014) [-]
Dorian Johnson, the friend who was with Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer over the weekend, reportedly confirmed that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/15/robbery-not-related-to-why-michael-brown-was-initially-stopped-by-ferguson/
#68033 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
Just making this clear. If you are a nat soc/anti-nigger/polite and you listen to rap then you are fucking retarded. I don't think I need explaining.
User avatar #68073 to #68033 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
What's the point of the first effect of this card? That's like saying "Name any kind of ice cream you want so you can get it yourself".
User avatar #68077 to #68074 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
6.) What does the X cost mean here? It's usually used to represent a mana value that differs depending on how the card is used. But here it's just... there.
User avatar #68076 to #68074 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
Oh, and 4.) It's black and red even though it costs nothing. It should be grey.
5.) It costs three nothings.
User avatar #68075 to #68074 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
1.) Half of those aren't even effects.
2.) Life drain isn't an effect, it's an ability. Maybe if it had Life Drain and had the effect "This card's Life Drain ability only activates when this HINC attacks a human creature. Multiply the effect of Life Drain by ten", or something like that. But no.
3.) It has zero health. In almost any case it would die immediately.
User avatar #68079 to #68078 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
1.) The tap symbol is not a mana cost symbol. The mana cost seems to be implying that you have to tap this card twice before playing it.
2.) What does "Full instant manna" mean?
3.) Manna
4.) Disable is not an effect.
5.) What is "Shields owner through slums" supposed to mean?
6.) Even more pointless X to cast symbols.
7.) The description isn't even a proper sentence.
8.) There are cards that cost more than this that are lucky to be much more than 10/10s with a good effect. And here's a 50/50 for ten plus... whatever tap twice is supposed to mean.
User avatar #68081 to #68080 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
1.) Creatures don't block. They're attacked. This isn't Yu-Gi-Oh.
2.) What does it mean to "Go category five cable"?
3.) Oh cool, this card is temporarily slightly better. Too bad it's also tapped for the whole time.
4.) What's the point of giving a creature haste after it's already come out? the whole point of the ability is that it can attack when it first comes out.
5.) Why would anyone pay five and five per turn for an 8/8 with trample? Mind you, an 8/8 with trample is good, but it's certainly not that good. Most of this doesn't matter though, because
6.) this thing is usually dead the moment it comes out. Literally. It's another 0/0.
7.) This creature is not legendary and you know it.
8.) Nixon quotes do not fantasy immersion make.
9.) This card costs grey mana, so it should be grey. But it's brown.
User avatar #68083 to #68082 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
I'm busy right now. Sorry.
User avatar #68065 to #68031 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
>When the battle begins, you need troops who can defeat the Mongol horse archers and lancers. This is where the longbow and heavy crossbow come into their own.

Take two equally fit and equally well-trained archers. Have one of them bouncing around on the back of a moving horse; have the other standing with both feet firmly planted on the ground. Which of them will be most effective? The foot archer, of course. He can also use a larger and more powerful bow. He's a smaller target than the combination of a man plus a horse. And he can carry a large shield or have someone else stand in front of him holding a shield. (That's how the ancient Persians defeated horse archers back in their own day—regiments of archers with shield-bearers standing in front of them. Not very effective against Macedonian pikemen, but deadly against Central Asian cavalry.)
User avatar #68067 to #68065 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Account for training and for experience along with the tools of the horde.
User avatar #68102 to #68067 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
True, but they are not unbeatable, just very hard to beat.
User avatar #68116 to #68102 - undeadwill (08/16/2014) [-]
No just saying those horse archers will slaughter lesser men.
User avatar #68118 to #68116 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
hows medieval 2
User avatar #68120 to #68118 - undeadwill (08/16/2014) [-]
Shogun
User avatar #68123 to #68120 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
oh
how is it
User avatar #68132 to #68123 - undeadwill (08/16/2014) [-]
Pretty good.
User avatar #68134 to #68132 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
nice
User avatar #68117 to #68116 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
kinda
User avatar #68032 to #68031 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Kewl
I even had my own tactics to defeat them.
User avatar #68042 to #68032 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Like?
User avatar #68043 to #68042 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Crossbows combined with a lot of small arty.
Spear wall agains their arrows
Fixed side cav
When in battle
User avatar #68044 to #68043 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
They strike your calvery (who isn't immune to their arrows and then flank your spears.

The shields will fall all the same.

Arty is then destroyed by flanking bowmen.

You forgot about the flanking didn't you.
#68050 to #68044 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
also, whats your tactics
User avatar #68054 to #68050 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Haven't put much thought into it because I have been thinking about how to defend against a modern foe.
User avatar #68047 to #68044 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
nigga trust me
I played total war
User avatar #68049 to #68047 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Is that any good?
User avatar #68056 to #68051 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Describe it.
User avatar #68057 to #68056 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
well the game is old but good
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqfsnByYN14
User avatar #68058 to #68057 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
I got TW shotgun 2
User avatar #68059 to #68058 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
thats one of the best in the series
User avatar #68060 to #68059 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
So what should I expect while playing it?

What about Rome 2?
User avatar #68061 to #68060 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, you have many cool events and the campaign is fun, and if you want a challenge then download darth mod. There is even the mongol invasion.
User avatar #68062 to #68061 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
I mean what is the game like? I am downloading the game now.

Compare it something I might know.
User avatar #68063 to #68062 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
hmm
its like shogun but in medieval europe with worse animations
User avatar #68070 to #68063 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
ANy difference between units?
User avatar #68046 to #68044 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Ok, mounted archers dont have the same rang as regular arches, even talking about crossbowsa and arty should also mess up their ranks reall good. Also talking about that I live in bosnia son where your cavalry is useless, and it seems that we were to only ones in the balkans not conquered by them.
User avatar #68048 to #68046 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Dude they are firing composite bows, range+power= dead kebab. And consider that these are experienced soldiers, they will hit your archers.

These are mobile units arty takes too long to reload your be better off with more long bowmen as they will quickly close the distance. Also they will just capture it to use against you.

Maybe because you had nothing of value to raid being so far from home.

What if you aren't fighting in that location?
User avatar #68053 to #68048 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, I usually always take the high ground.....
User avatar #68055 to #68053 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Always good.
User avatar #68052 to #68048 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
idk nigga
tell me yo tactic then nigga
#67985 - pebar (08/15/2014) [-]
The name of the officer who killed the guy has been ID'd.
A mob lynching has been scheduled for this weekend. sarcasm, obviously

Meanwhile, the police claim the dead guy was a robbery suspect.
(Guess how well that news was taken....)

www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GF0LP20140815
www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-fergsuon-shooting-police-name-20140815-story.html
User avatar #67992 to #67985 - alimais (08/15/2014) [-]
I saw that the same time on /pol/ as you posted it
User avatar #67987 to #67985 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Damn you are fast.
User avatar #67964 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Whose got a better army, NCR or Legion?

If you like we can start with an analysis of basic recruits.
User avatar #68100 to #67964 - themanwithnoplan (08/16/2014) [-]
NCR by a mile.

Superior tech, superior supplies, Army-building strategy that doesn't rely on momentum, Higher-ups that wouldn't pass for a mental-patient, and the NCR don't have their heads up their asses about being technophobes.
User avatar #68029 to #67964 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
the NCR is the best and will win.
User avatar #68034 to #68030 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
Well my nigga, idk. I gotta think about it. I'll gib some mone- I mean reasons later.
User avatar #68110 to #68045 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
i couldn't think of any other then the fact that they have the much better weapons and most likely more people to fight with them.
User avatar #68121 to #68110 - undeadwill (08/16/2014) [-]
Unless you consider the upper level soldiers.
User avatar #67982 to #67964 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Legion, the NCR will fall like 'Merica, but Caesar hold the monopoly of violence in the desert.
User avatar #68111 to #67982 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
But doesn't the NCR have better weapons & more people?
User avatar #68112 to #68111 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
Depends, but still, never underestimate a desperate enemy.
User avatar #68113 to #68112 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
Yes goy, never do ; )
User avatar #67988 to #67982 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
But the only one with knowledge of how to lead is Caesar and Caesar will succumb to his headaches.

His commanders are not wise but brutal.
User avatar #68008 to #67988 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
In the ending where you join the Legion, let Caesar die and get he Enclave to help you, all of Caesar's potential successors work together to try to find the Enclave. I like to think it's proof of potential for a Roman-styled Republic after Caesar's death, or something to the effect.
#68025 to #68008 - youregaylol (08/15/2014) [-]
I haven't really played any video games in the past year but I'm pretty sure chasing the Enclave was a bad move with a bunch of men dying for no reason, something that Caesar wouldn't allow.

If anything that signifies that the entire legion is nothing without a strong leader.
User avatar #68027 to #68025 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Yes, but it's the jolly cooperation that counts.
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#68028 to #68026 - youregaylol (08/15/2014) [-]
I know, I recruited them in my Yes Man/ Courier power grab play through.

After I killed Caesar I remember something about Legate sending hundreds of men to their deaths chasing them across the desert with nothing to show for it, I think that was meant to signify the end of the Legion as a competent force. If you keep Caesar I think he lets them go, not sure though.
User avatar #68013 to #68008 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Maybe.
User avatar #67990 to #67988 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
True, but damn effective, unless caesar has a son.
User avatar #67996 to #67990 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
He won't last that long and as far as I know he doesn't have a harem.

Also take into account the equipment of the soldier being mostly poor. (Its like US army vs Native American warriors of the same age.)

He's a great warrior and can "sense weakness" but these two traits do not make one a great warrior. So I am told.

However not taking the town of Novac and even temporally to sever supply lines shows a great lack of skill.
In destroying Novac you force NCR to double its defenses along the supply lines but to no help as the troops can't fend off the legion raiding parties.

If he loses, he loses a town of no importance other than symbolic purpose.
And all he would need to do is throw some dynamite from the cliff above the NCR and then flank the road block. before bringing up the more experienced legionaries from up the road. That gets rid of the road block very quickly then you seen in a raiding party up from the direction of the robco area or from the ranger base and quickly hold the houses where the snipers can't harm you.

That or use a few legion spies to ambush the snipers.

Simple stuff.
User avatar #67997 to #67996 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, he could get any slave girl.
The eqipment will improve over time as they loot more or even take Vegas.
And new F4 will tell the tale.
User avatar #67998 to #67997 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
But hasn't.

No because they believe that technology and man's reliance on it was what caused the last great disaster. And they couldn't take Vegas. Unlike NCR house's troops are god tier with their weapons perfectly suitable for killing the legion.

It will be too far away to tell.
User avatar #68003 to #67999 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Is it cannon?
User avatar #68005 to #68004 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Part of official story line or is it a mod. Looks like a mod.
User avatar #68006 to #68005 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
I think it's official.
User avatar #68010 to #68006 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Initial dialogue with Achilles, a Legion-recruitable companion.
Caesar's New Regime mod here: newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45557//?

Don't lie to me
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User avatar #68009 to #68007 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
I said I think.
User avatar #68011 to #68009 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
You posted it.
User avatar #68014 to #68012 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Anyway. what was the point you were trying to make.
User avatar #68015 to #68014 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
listen
User avatar #68016 to #68015 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Fuck no its 11 minutes of poor voice acting. I got shit to do like study military tactics.
User avatar #68024 to #68016 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
I doubt it, do you have any idea how he came to power? He became the leader of a tribe that had him as a prisoner.
?
Until a new one comes?
User avatar #68022 to #68016 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, they have been doing a lot of raiding like the earlier Romans, and they are very cunning, the first assault on the dam would be victorious if Caesar has been there too.
They are keeping reserves.
>More like more scared of the spears behind them, also if you make your troops reckless like the Japanese of ww2 you lose good experienced troops that way.
True, but once the legion has its Rome, everything will procede more smothly.
User avatar #68023 to #68022 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Not really so, Caser is a figure head but not a good warrior or general.
For what? They have access to service rifles but keep using varmet rifles.
Not really because they are all dependent on Cesar who will die soon.
User avatar #68020 to #68016 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
>tldr
Roman army used most advanced tactics so the kaisar made it up on that principle
They don't have enough guns so guns are given to the more valuable people
They want their units to become less afraid of guns and bullets because it develops into trench warfare and caesar wants conquests, not defensive wars
User avatar #68021 to #68020 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
If that is true they don't show it.
Of course but they have access to allot of guns they just don't fully use them.
More like more scared of the spears behind them, also if you make your troops reckless like the Japanese of ww2 you lose good experienced troops that way.
User avatar #68019 to #68017 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
So give me a summery.
User avatar #67993 to #67990 - turtletroll (08/15/2014) [-]
Implying Lanius wouldn't be a great leader
User avatar #67995 to #67994 - turtletroll (08/15/2014) [-]
<3

Niggers already started looting lel.
#67967 to #67964 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
The Army of the New California Republic, obviously.

>Conscript army kicking the shit out of life-time soldiers

Also, 'legioner'? Whoever made this fucking picture is retarded.
User avatar #68035 to #67967 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
Love this pic.
User avatar #67973 to #67967 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
The Boomers, just by the way, are the greatest faction

>Militaristic
>Monarchy
>Limited immigration
>Self-sustainable
User avatar #68036 to #67973 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
True but I killed them all...

Although the BoS is the coolest and dopest one.
User avatar #68090 to #68036 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
The BoS is pretty based, indeed.
User avatar #68000 to #67973 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
This is very true.
User avatar #67965 to #67964 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Personally, I'd go with Legion. They're part of a better system more focused on protecting conquered land than exploiting it, and they're more professionally trained and organized with more discipline. The only disadvantage is weaponry, seeing as a lot of Legion units use swords for some reason (Which is potentially subverted as a problem by the fact that in the Fallout universe, you can actually bring knives to gunfights and win).
User avatar #67974 to #67965 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
>Protecting conquered land
>Not exploiting it
>Legion

What.
User avatar #67975 to #67974 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Let's say there's a village. When the Legion comes across the village, they don't usually "Conquer" it per se, as much as give it protection in exchange for becoming a part of the Legion. After that, aside from contributing in areas such as troops and taxes, the village will be as free as it was before. The NCR, however, assumes control of frontier locations and offers no benefits to the local people (As suggested by the constant griping of many people under NCR rule about exploitation and over-management).
User avatar #67976 to #67975 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
>A vast army of slaves, forged by the conquest of 86 tribes: Caesar's Legion.

Whereas the Desert Rangers of Nevada agreed to be absorbed into the NCR Rangers in exchange for NCR protection of the Mojave Wasteland against the Legion.

Frontier locations are happy to have the NCR patrolling the roads, keeping the wildlife and Legion at bay, but they don't want to contribute to the costs.
User avatar #67977 to #67976 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
But the NCR is shit tier at actually doing that. Legion routes are routinely preferred by merchants because of the relative safety. As for the slave part, it's part of the contributions I mentioned. The Legion isn't the hero we want; It's the hero we need.

Anyways, I have to go to bed. Noot.
User avatar #67978 to #67977 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nipton

Peacefully absorbed into the Legion.

fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Primm

Violently conquered by the NCR Army who impose their rule with force. Residents certainly did not suggest to the Courier that they're happy to receive NCR protection. NCR forces certainly did not hesitate and were not content to have Primm police itself.

>Relative safety

The Western territories of the NCR would be hella safe. It's only the frontier that is dangerous, for obvious reasons and that's no fault of the NCR.

>Noot

Night bby talk to you tomorrow
User avatar #67984 to #67978 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
>Nipton was a wicked place, debased and corrupt. It served all comers, as long as they paid. Profligate troops, Powder Gangers, men of the Legion such as myself. The people here didn't care. It was a town of whores. For a pittance, the town agreed to lead those it had sheltered into a trap. Only when I sprang it did they realize they were caught inside it, too.
User avatar #68086 to #67984 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
They only killed the NCR troopers and civilians. There's no Legion corpses, except the one killed by the laser rifle.
User avatar #68038 to #68037 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
cant now nigger
working out like a good goy
User avatar #68039 to #68038 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
ye ye I'm just showing you, I don't wanna play now too.
User avatar #67948 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
What similarities to Marxists and Libertarians share?
Besides common groups they hate.

I was told they are similar despite being polar opposites on every issue.
User avatar #67983 to #67948 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
They are both stinkyhats.
User avatar #67981 to #67948 - sirlancealotofhoes (08/15/2014) [-]
American Libertarians or the original Libertarians? The original libertarians were left wing anarchists.

I'll assume that you mean the American libertarians. There are absolutely no similarities in the utopian result of the two ideologies. A Marxist utopia is a state without a government, where capital is non-existent. The workers own the means of productions, and there are no social classes. A libertarian utopia is a state with a small government, where the governments only task is to uphold the harm principle, which is that you can do whatever you want as long as you don't harm anyone else.

So while libertarianism is inherently capitalistic and in support of the free market, marxism takes on a whole different view of both human nature and society. They can't really be compared.
User avatar #67980 to #67948 - ecomp (08/15/2014) [-]
Market.
User avatar #67989 to #67980 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Yes both create things but that's true for every system.
User avatar #68101 to #67989 - ecomp (08/16/2014) [-]
;)
User avatar #67968 to #67948 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
Guns.
User avatar #67991 to #67968 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Not always.
User avatar #68087 to #67991 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
Yeah, true, started talking to an old M-L buddy of mine, and he advocates gun control. Fucking idiot.
User avatar #68089 to #68087 - undeadwill (08/16/2014) [-]
indeed.
User avatar #67945 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
We're doing a politics RP thing over on /tabeltop. I'm France, my cup runneth over with wine and baguettes (I'm not even joking, I'm one of the better off players at this point). If you want to join, feel free.
User avatar #67949 to #67945 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
What do I need to know?
User avatar #67950 to #67949 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
What, about how to play?
User avatar #67952 to #67951 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
pastebin.com/Ntt5Qbru

If you want to know anything else, the thread for it's still pretty high on the first page for /tabletop.
User avatar #67953 to #67952 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
looks too long and complicated for tonight
User avatar #67954 to #67953 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
We're not doing it tonight. We're still deciding on our next session.
User avatar #67955 to #67954 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
What will happen?
User avatar #67956 to #67955 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
If you've either asked to be mentioned as an observer or have set yourself up as a player, I'm pretty sure you'll be mentioned with the updates (Such as changes to the game, changes to the time of the next session, the start of sessions, etc etc).
User avatar #67957 to #67956 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Mind if I watch the first time and get the going ons down?
User avatar #67959 to #67957 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Just tell the host that you're an observer.
User avatar #67961 to #67958 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Do I have to sign up to pastebin?
User avatar #67962 to #67961 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
No, just reply to the host on /tabletop.
#67943 - Womens Study Major (08/15/2014) [-]
User avatar #67944 to #67943 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
More like secret, nuclear warhead convoys.
User avatar #67942 - tredbear (08/15/2014) [-]
who is Mike ferguson and what is all this shit going on?
#67969 to #67942 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
Mike Brown got shot by the Ferguson police. Negro community cries racism and starts opportunistic looting. Police collectively sigh and start cracking skulls.
#67931 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
How much autonomy from the federal government do Native American tribes have? I've heard them described as "domestic dependent nations", but I'm not sure what that entails. Could they ignore federal income taxes? Legalize substances forbidden by the federal government.

All I've heard about is Indian gaming and the sale of tax free cigarettes.
User avatar #67946 to #67931 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
It very much depends on what country you're talking about. You can even see differences between Canada and America, and they're relatively close in how they deal with natives.
#67923 - pebar (08/14/2014) [-]
A bunch of special interest groups are calling for the name of the officer who shot that black kid to be released.
Should it be released?

I think not.
User avatar #67970 to #67923 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
Of course not. Look at what happened to Zim-Zam. Bounties and death threats before the trial had even begun.

>Black people cannot into due process

If his name is released, they'll be scrambling to give gift him a South African necklace.
User avatar #67936 to #67923 - newvein (08/15/2014) [-]
>A bunch of special interest groups are calling for the name of the officer who shot that black kid to be released.

This is like a news story like every single week
#67928 to #67923 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
Of course not.

Fucking niggers and their chimpouts.
User avatar #67927 to #67923 - feelythefeel (08/14/2014) [-]
I agree, for the protection of not just the suspect but also people associated with him. The only reason people want to know his name is so they can have a good lynching.
#67924 to #67923 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
No.

Once the investigation is over, we'll probably learn it because he'll have to defend himself.
User avatar #67929 to #67924 - feelythefeel (08/14/2014) [-]
I'm saying his name should be protected at least until the end of the investigation.
#67909 - pebar (08/14/2014) [-]
seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024309632_apxlyeintea.html

SALT LAKE CITY —
A woman drank sweet tea containing a toxic cleaning chemical, severely burning her mouth and throat, at a Utah restaurant after an employee mistook the substance for sugar and mixed it into a dispenser, the woman's attorney said Thursday.

Jan Harding, 67, is in critical condition at a Salt Lake City hospital's burn unit, unable to talk and fighting for her life, lawyer Paxton Guymon said.
User avatar #67912 to #67909 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
Ohh man she is going to get a shit ton of money if she survives. Set for life, I feel bad for the business because they are fucked.
#67907 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
Should the state do anything about obesity?

I used to think no, because of personal liberty and all that.
But come to think of it, I'd rather not see a society designed to cater to the obese.
User avatar #68001 to #67907 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
One does not cater to society if the economy penalizes those who are not healthy.
#67971 to #67907 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
Fitness and health programs should be mandatory in school curriculum.
User avatar #68018 to #67971 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
And just off the screen you can just barely see "Grenade throwing tests".

Children were trained to throw grenades from childhood.
User avatar #68088 to #68018 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
>grenade throwing

If you can throw a rock, you can basically through a grenade. So outrageous.

Besides, fuck you, the Soviets were either preparing for inevitable German invasion, or had just experienced it (I don't know when the program was introduced). Seems justified when you learn that the Soviets lost at least 20 million people.
User avatar #68092 to #68088 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
All I'm saying is that you don't raise a stable child by teaching them to kill people.
User avatar #68093 to #68092 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
Being taught the technique of throwing a grenade - which, by the way, is literally the technique of throwing a cricket ball - is no more harmful than children playing soldier with toy guns.
User avatar #68094 to #68093 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
That's arguable. Young children are very malleable, even to the subtle things.
User avatar #68095 to #68094 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
How do you feel about children being instructed in the safe use of a firearm?
User avatar #68096 to #68095 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
You should probably wait a bit, to their teens at least.
User avatar #68097 to #68096 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
Upon reviewing the screencap (and learning it was from the '30s), it notes that citizens of all ages were included. Grenade throwing was probably only for teens, and I'd wager only for those in some kind of program, like cadets.
User avatar #68098 to #68097 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
In that case, I suppose it isn't as terrible.
User avatar #68099 to #68098 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
It's US media. It was always going to be ambiguous so as to make it seem worse than it actually is. As the picture satirically tries to explain, lol.
User avatar #68066 to #68018 - jewishcommunazi (08/15/2014) [-]
I suppose they didn't use actual grenades (that'd be stupid). If so, I don't see it as that much of a bad thing.
User avatar #68068 to #68066 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
You'd think it'd send something of a bad message, though.
User avatar #67937 to #67907 - newvein (08/15/2014) [-]
People can do whatever they want with their bodies. As long as they are aware of what they are putting into their bodies, I'm content.

i definitely think the state should encourage healthy living and dieting, but not enforce regulations on foods. (unless they're putting dangerous levels of certain ingredients into a food, and of course sanitary prep conditions)

Categorizing obesity as a disease is just beyond retarded.
User avatar #67934 to #67907 - akkere (08/15/2014) [-]
If the state especially provides healthcare, than it should do something to deter people away from obesity as well.
Technically, it should do something in general to try to forge an image of a strong, healthy people, but it especially becomes important in the event the taxpayer's dime may be gauged into coping with the obesity in general.
User avatar #67921 to #67907 - whatley ONLINE (08/14/2014) [-]
Yes, the taxing of severely unhealthy food should be enacted as it is a demerit good.
#67910 to #67907 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
It should in NO WAY CATER TO THE OBESE. And by that I mean bigger seats anywhere, ect.

That's all it needs to do, not to cater to any group. And it's your personal choice to be fat as well as eat bad shit. But who wants to be a fucking land whale?
User avatar #67935 to #67910 - akkere (08/15/2014) [-]
(lulzfornigeriagirl)
The state can only do so much to not cater to the obese, but it'll mostly fall into the hands of the private businesses for the obesity catering, whom have an interest in doing so to meet the demands to ensure optimal profits.
User avatar #67940 to #67935 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
I know but what are we gonna do? Ban bad food? I have no solution...
#67925 to #67910 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
Once the obese are clearly the majority, there won't really be anyway to stop it.
User avatar #67911 to #67910 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
forgot2login
User avatar #67908 to #67907 - liberalgodess (08/14/2014) [-]
There is a strong correlation between obesity and low income, simply because many people don't have the resources to buy healthy food.
So they state could work on that.
User avatar #67972 to #67908 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
This is true. There should be some kind of subsidy of health food in certain cases.
#67905 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
User avatar #68002 to #67905 - undeadwill (08/15/2014) [-]
Government payments.
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User avatar #67903 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
Some questions I have on the Ukraine crisis:

Why is Ukraine shelling the city of Donetsk. I thought the rebels were on the outskirts, aren't there a lot of civilians in that city because its pretty populous?

Do you think Putin has something sneaky planned when referring to the aid trucks. For some reason some info isn't being revealed like final destination.
And also the plane being shot down has kinda completely left the big media outlets. Any news? I heard inspectors found machine gun rounds at the back of the plane indicating it was purposefully shot down by Ukraine but I don't want to believe it.
#67906 to #67903 - Womens Study Major (08/14/2014) [-]
It's hard to predict, but its for certain that the outcome of the Ukraine crisis depends on Russia's humanitarian mission. If Russia allows inspection of the trucks by Ukraine officers, Red Cross and perhaps OSCE, and the trucks arrive safely to their destination, the rebels will probably be defeated in a matter of weeks, and the crisis will deescalate a lot. If however the trucks are just a part of a Russian intervention, the crisis will of course worsen and be prolonged.
Anyways, don't count on the truth behind MH17 to be unveiled before the crisis is over.
Same goes for why they're shelling Donetsk.
User avatar #67904 to #67903 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
*marks left on the plane not rounds
#67873 - ribocoon (08/14/2014) [-]
So how about that ISIS?
User avatar #67875 to #67873 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
No one here likes them. /thread
#67851 - pebar (08/14/2014) [-]
This is making its way to the front page.
User avatar #67920 to #67851 - feelythefeel (08/14/2014) [-]
A friend of my family got stomped in the face and set back a decade in his mental recovery from an earlier incident. It was so bad he was deemed mentally unfit for his firearms.

hurt wrists= getting stomped in the face until the state deems you retarded apparently.


Although then again, I don't think he was black. Maybe that's the joke.
User avatar #67852 to #67851 - schnizel (08/14/2014) [-]
didn du nutin
Pebar, you playing tabletop with us?
User avatar #67855 to #67852 - pebar (08/14/2014) [-]
tabletop?
User avatar #67856 to #67855 - schnizel (08/14/2014) [-]
yeah
User avatar #67857 to #67856 - pebar (08/14/2014) [-]
wuzzat?
User avatar #67859 to #67858 - pebar (08/14/2014) [-]
nah
User avatar #67861 to #67860 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
Look up the game Warlight (like risk but less complicated) and let's play sometime. Jew vs. Bosnian : ^ )
User avatar #67866 to #67862 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
That doesn't sound optimistic. Are you making fun of my heritage?
User avatar #67867 to #67866 - schnizel (08/14/2014) [-]
Yes.
User avatar #67869 to #67867 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/14/2014) [-]
You racist bigot. 10 years in jail for racial slander. "But muh freedom of speech" hahahaha shut up goy.
User avatar #67870 to #67869 - schnizel (08/14/2014) [-]
My grandfather was gassed 3 times.
Gib monies
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