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User avatar #27479 - eight ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
Another practice drill just before Boston bombings?
#27474 - rambomanthree (04/19/2013) [-]
I am I the only one here who seriously hates america and thinks that something should be done about it before we become a police state. I mean look around.    
   
rant inbound:    
   
>cispa passed (eliminates freedom of speech and having a warrent to search and seize your shit.. online) In closed door meeting might i add. with the people having no say in whether it passes or not.. unconstitutional in every way possible    
>more bills like this passing right under our noses.. because they are closed door meetings.. and people are too stupid to read their local legislator.. and keep in touch with political shit    
>bombinbs, shootings, etc. but no one reports on intentional drone strikes in the middle east by us forces killing civillians. THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY!    
>Rich people running the U.S charging more and more for shit people need, poor people starving on the street.    
>Trying to take away second ammendment    
>workers unions outlawed.. they can make people work for close to nothing, no more breaks, bonuses.. etc.. pretty much slave labor now if they want.    
   
And no one is paying attention, because the trouble is far away. and not kicking in their door...    
   
But by the time the american gestapo is kicking in your door, planting microchips in you, and rounding people off then they dissappear. it will be too late to do anything.    
   
we need a revolution   
   
I sound crazy.. bluh i know


I am I the only one here who seriously hates america and thinks that something should be done about it before we become a police state. I mean look around.

rant inbound:

>cispa passed (eliminates freedom of speech and having a warrent to search and seize your shit.. online) In closed door meeting might i add. with the people having no say in whether it passes or not.. unconstitutional in every way possible
>more bills like this passing right under our noses.. because they are closed door meetings.. and people are too stupid to read their local legislator.. and keep in touch with political shit
>bombinbs, shootings, etc. but no one reports on intentional drone strikes in the middle east by us forces killing civillians. THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY!
>Rich people running the U.S charging more and more for shit people need, poor people starving on the street.
>Trying to take away second ammendment
>workers unions outlawed.. they can make people work for close to nothing, no more breaks, bonuses.. etc.. pretty much slave labor now if they want.

And no one is paying attention, because the trouble is far away. and not kicking in their door...

But by the time the american gestapo is kicking in your door, planting microchips in you, and rounding people off then they dissappear. it will be too late to do anything.

we need a revolution

I sound crazy.. bluh i know
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User avatar #27498 to #27474 - mayormilkman (04/20/2013) [-]
Don't forget about Monsanto.
#27482 to #27474 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
It doesn't help that people follow foolish mentalities like "It doesn't affect me, so I don't have to worry." or "You only have to worry if you're a criminal."
User avatar #27480 to #27474 - eight ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
Or staging bombings to turn the press away from indictment for war crimes.
User avatar #27475 to #27474 - mykoira (04/19/2013) [-]
when people realizes that they are being fucked over it's usually too late
User avatar #27470 - eight ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
User avatar #27469 - eight ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
Are drone strikes that kill innocent civilians terrorist attacks?
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User avatar #27476 to #27469 - CapnInterwebz (04/19/2013) [-]
Intentionally? Probably not. Possibly. Unintentionally? Definitely.

To say that we are not guilty of the same things our enemies are is ignorant. Maybe we are not guilty, or maybe not even on the same scale, but we as a nation have done as much bad as any other country or group.

It's all about perspective.
User avatar #27478 to #27476 - eight ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
That is what I hate. America freaks out when something big happens here like a a few bombs killing a few people. But nobody freaks out when a drone strike every other day kill dozens of innocents including children across the world. I'd say we have brought more terror to the ME than they have to us.
#27459 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
How do we feel about social democrats?
#27467 to #27459 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
They are the "new left." The new left can go choke on a syphilis-infected dick.
User avatar #27510 to #27467 - oxan (04/20/2013) [-]
That's my comrade.
#27448 - repostsrepost (04/19/2013) [-]
They're Chechens guys. Yes they're muslims but there is zero evidence of them being Islamists so I'm not assuming anything. Everyone and they're mother is assuming that this was a Muslim extremist attack, and while that is a possibility assuming things without evidence just makes you look like an idiot.
#27449 to #27448 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
chechens are islamic extremists with a long history.
just ask the russians.
#27450 to #27449 - repostsrepost (04/19/2013) [-]
agreed. Them being Islamists is likely, but there is zero evidence to back that up, so I'm not assuming anything. They could just be insane for all we know. Its weird Chechens would attack America. They should be focusing on the ones currently oppressing them.
#27452 to #27450 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
Also some minor sauce in case you didn't know same anon as below the problem with living with a weak government is splinter groups can fuck everything up for the rest of the people : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Dagestan
#27451 to #27450 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
>Oppressing them

Heads up the Chechen people doomed each other by spilling over their internal conflict into Dagestan we left them be after the first war started to drag out in Afghanistan mk2 for the military, they got stupid and got put in line.
#27447 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
don't bother arguing with oxan.
he's a pathetic loser that proxy thumbs himself up in arguments.
#27456 to #27447 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
Oh Anon, I'm flattered that I'm so important to you that you can't help but post about me.
User avatar #27437 - CapnInterwebz (04/19/2013) [-]
THEY FOUND THE FUCKERS

One dead after intense gunfire in Watertown, Massachusetts -- MIT campus officer shot and wounded as well. The other bastard is at large -- the entire Boston area is on motherfucking total lock down as hundreds of cops and feds move in to nab him.
User avatar #27439 to #27437 - CapnInterwebz (04/19/2013) [-]
Get this: the 2 primary suspects are brothers from Chechnya who came to the US with student visas. On "social networking sites", the younger of the brothers has described his worldview as Islam. Also, a THIRD suspect whose connection and identity are not being revealed has been caught by police and is in custody. Again, more than one million people in the Boston area are told to keep indoors as the massive manhunt including thousands of officers begins.

Earlier that night the brothers went on a crime spree -- robbing convenience stores. hijacking a vehicle, and eventually shooting the MIT cop.

During the massive gunfight that went down between cops and the suspects, another bomb was thrown at officers -- it exploded in the street before it got near anyone else.
User avatar #27443 to #27439 - teoberry (04/19/2013) [-]
Hmm. Either these two are just crazy, or, perhaps, though I doubt it, maybe the bombers were planning to lay low, then their faces were released, so they did this to try and get some cash or whatever, and leave the city.
User avatar #27438 to #27437 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
You need to login to view this link

Posting the link so others can follow.
#27434 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
After years of protests that were violently suppressed, even the IMF is warning against austerity that doesn't work.

WASHINGTON — Britain and the Eurozone are steadfastly sticking to austerity measures despite increasing evidence that such action alone isn't working to revive their economies and is dragging down global growth.

www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-economy-imf-20130419,0,644914.story
#27446 to #27434 - repostsrepost (04/19/2013) [-]
Austerity works. Iceland, Switzerland, Latvia, Estonia. Austerity has not been attempted in Greece or the Eurozone. The problem in Greece is that it controls fiscal policy but not monetary policy. Under Greece's condition, since it refuses to cut the budget, the only other option is a currency devaluation, which it cannot do.
User avatar #27458 to #27446 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
Raising taxes and cutting social spending isn't austerity? That's news to me, repost.
User avatar #27424 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
My U.S. Government teacher wants the class to keep up with the news and I didn't realize this is the ideal place. I get a variety of opinions and can semi-anonymously (None of you actually know who I am, but am a user) input my own. Word.
User avatar #27426 to #27424 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
Oh, and I guess to contribute:
I read in here that good people need guns because bad people have guns. It was an anon. There are less-than-lethal weapons out there so you don't have the whole "I just killed a guy" on your conscience even though it was in self-defense. You're safe and the bad guy is in prison.
I don't think people need guns, but we don't need a lot of things. However, those other things we don't need like colored fabric have fashion in mind. I'm not big on fashion, but I think it's like "keeping up with the Jones's." Flavor and such. I'm inexperienced with the subject of guns, but I don't think you need a strong powered weapon for self-defense or fashion. If the other guy has a bigger gun (Personally, I don't think he'd be robbing you at your house or on the street), then think smarter not size.
That's my opinion.
User avatar #27430 to #27426 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
From the Black Panther's Ten Point Program:

7. We Want An Immediate End To Police Brutality And Murder Of Black People.
We believe we can end police brutality in our Black community by organizing Black self-defense groups that are dedicated to defending our Black community from racist police oppression and brutality. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all Black people should arm themselves for self- defense.

The police as an entity exist to protect the capitalists, not the people. Communities should arm themselves for their own protection. In the words of Marx:

"The arming of the whole proletariat with rifles, guns, and ammunition should be carried out at once [and] the workers must ... organize themselves into an independent guard, with their own chiefs and general staff. ... [The aim is] that the bourgeois democratic Government not only immediately loses all backing among the workers, but from the commencement finds itself under the supervision and threats of authorities behind whom stands the entire mass of the working class."
User avatar #27433 to #27430 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
Also, I'm out of the shower.
User avatar #27432 to #27430 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
In hostile environments where the police are brutally racist, I can understand. Ideally, the law enforcers aren't racist or loot at stereotypes, but this isn't an ideal world.
Also, do you believe people will only use weapons for defensive purposes? It's part of the reason there is gun related crime. A high-powered gun is too much. A simple "back the fuck up" small firearm can defend against another small firearm cop, but nobody wants to kill a cop (for logical reasons). That actually makes the news and you're automatically the bad guy. Less-than-lethal weapons disarm the foul cop, and people won't hate you.
User avatar #27435 to #27432 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
>Organise
>Chiefs
>General staff

It's not simple arming of individuals, but arming of organised communities that collectively defend themselves.

Please note I'm not speaking specifically of the United States, but of the world. Certain countries require more radical action and more urgent implementation of Marx's call to arms, some countries - while it's most definitely still necessary - can undergo slower organisation into militias.

Imagine what the Maoists would've been able to do during the Tienanmen Square protests if they were armed. Considering armour was deployed, it's doubtful they would've 'won' but at least they could've caused more disruption for the capitalists.
User avatar #27425 to #27424 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
What would you like to discuss?
User avatar #27427 to #27425 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
I commented after you on my own. My bad.
(I need to shower, though. I'll get back to you)
User avatar #27420 - badsamaritan (04/19/2013) [-]
Update! SHITS CRAZY TURN ON THE TV!
#27417 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
Because spectrum.
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User avatar #27411 - badsamaritan (04/19/2013) [-]
Shooting at an MIT building. Possible this is linked? Opinions?
However we will find out
User avatar #27412 to #27411 - teoberry (04/19/2013) [-]
They're stupid as fuck if it's the same guys, or even if they're connected. Considering it's a white guy (that's according to scanners), he's not gonna have the discipline that say, an Arab would have with this shit. My guess is just a robbery, as he shot just a cop, and it clearly wasn't planned as he would've made sure the copper was dead, he's being transported to hospital.
User avatar #27441 to #27418 - teoberry (04/19/2013) [-]
shieet. the killer's fucked then.
User avatar #27455 to #27441 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
One was killed, the other was on the run.
User avatar #27413 to #27412 - badsamaritan (04/19/2013) [-]
Yeah just came out asa robbery and such, I think but im not so certain.
User avatar #27404 - roliga (04/19/2013) [-]
Guys, guys, guys... Just ban bombs, DUH! That way only the government will have them!

If they're banned no one will use them!

www.examiner.com/article/senator-to-propose-bill-regulating-black-power-wake-of-boston-massacre
#27415 to #27404 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
in wake of Boston Massacre
gotta love that headline.
User avatar #27397 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
PATRAS (GREECE): Two men have been arrested in Greece after foremen for strawberry growers allegedly shot and wounded 27 migrant labourers demanding long-overdue pay, police said on Thursday.

'PAME said the workers had been fired upon with shotguns and pistols. It claimed 33 were hurt, while the police said 27 were wounded, one of them critically.'

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Bangladeshi-farm-workers-in-Gree ce-shot-at-for-demanding-wages-dozens-injured/articleshow/19616374.cms?
#27408 to #27397 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
silly laborers, greece has no money with which to pay you.
User avatar #27387 - badsamaritan (04/18/2013) [-]
Did it bug any of you guys when some of the people from the left and left news outlets made the statement that 90% of Americans support gun control? Kind of a dumb remark, in other news
usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17784776-fbi-releases-video-of-two-dangerous-suspects-in-boston-bombing?lite
Hopefully this isnt the same thing CNN and ABC did with the whole we made an arrest story.
User avatar #27396 to #27387 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
I believe 90% supported additional background checks, not more restrictions, but I may be mistaken.

What annoys me more is when people associate pro-gun control liberals with the rest of the Left, many of whom support guns just as ferociously as the Right.
User avatar #27398 to #27396 - Zarke (04/19/2013) [-]
I think the stat was skewed from "90% of Americans support background checks" to "90% of Americans support universal background checks". The first one I can believe. The second one... less so.
User avatar #27399 to #27398 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
Like I said, I may have been mistaken. I haven't been following the US' gun control lately.
User avatar #27402 to #27399 - Zarke (04/19/2013) [-]
Either way, surveys can say whatever you want depending on who you survey.
#27379 - fefe (04/18/2013) [-]
fruity bum bum
#27373 - vanoreo (04/18/2013) [-]
People don't need guns.
People don't need guns.
User avatar #27400 to #27373 - Zarke (04/19/2013) [-]
Ideally they wouldn't, but there are people who do, who either hunt to earn their living or people who live in fear of the criminal element. Until all the world's police and military forces feel they are safe enough to put down their guns, nobody else should have to either.

And of course, fuck "need". If we only used what we needed, we'd be wearing uncoloured cotton garments of varying thickness to suit the weather and be eating vitamin-enriched bread for daily sustenance.
#27393 to #27373 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to a criminal who has a gun pointed at your face. I'm sure he'll come to his senses and put the gun down.
User avatar #27389 to #27373 - badsamaritan (04/19/2013) [-]
Women are weaker than men. Woman has a gun, less chance of her getting raped
User avatar #27382 to #27373 - oxan (04/18/2013) [-]
No, we do.
#27375 to #27373 - fefe (04/18/2013) [-]
entirely no.
but bad people have guns, so good people do need guns.
User avatar #27422 to #27375 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
How about having "less than lethal" weapons instead?
User avatar #27401 to #27375 - CapnInterwebz (04/19/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure there's a police force for that, LaPierre
User avatar #27423 to #27401 - cantfindausername ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
You can't always rely on them.
User avatar #27410 to #27401 - oxan (04/19/2013) [-]
From the Black Panther's party program:

'We Want An Immediate End To Police Brutality And Murder Of Black People.

We believe we can end police brutality in our Black community by organizing Black self-defense groups that are dedicated to defending our Black community from racist police oppression and brutality. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all Black people should arm themselves for self- defense.'

And then we remember incidents like the recent suppression of protesting migrant workers demanding their pay on a farm. The people have a right to arm themselves for their own protection.
#27406 to #27401 - fefe (04/19/2013) [-]
Because the police can just magically teleport into your house and protect you right the moment someone breaks in with the intent to kill you.
User avatar #27403 to #27401 - pebar ONLINE (04/19/2013) [-]
If you're ever in a situation where you need the police the most, the police will not be there for you.
+1
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User avatar #27377 to #27375 - vanoreo (04/18/2013) [-]
/logic
User avatar #27365 - CapnInterwebz (04/18/2013) [-]
>North Korea has identified the concessions it wants the US and UN to make before opening peace talks
(source: www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/north-korea-sets-preconditions- for-peace-talks/article4629981.ece)

LOL
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#27364 to #27361 - fefe (04/18/2013) [-]
IT'S GETTING BETTER BECAUSE FAT BEN JUST MADE MORE POOP
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