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User avatar #81627 - publicpubic (03/27/2015) [-]
Why is there so many people in American prisons? What is the reasons, in your opinion, why America has the highest prison-population in the world?

Does the number of guns in the country have anything to do with it? Is the wealth-gap the main reason for such high numbers of crime?
User avatar #81632 to #81627 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
No and sort of. The main reason we have so many prisoners is because we're pioneers of the "tough on crime" BS that wins elections at the cost of destroying the lives of anyone who isn't class mobile. The private prison industry makes obscene bank on an increasing incarceration rate, which motivates the passing and maintenance of superfluous victimless-crime laws, especially the War on Drugs, and making it impossible to properly reintegrate into society after paying debts back to society, thus turning small time offenders into hardened thugs and keeping the gravy train rolling.

Blacks and (to a lesser extent) Hispanics are the main targets of this cash cow, but because they're easy targets, not out of prejudice. If wealth inequality was much lower, we'd simply find new reasons to perpetuate a broken system.

Of course, the prison lobby wants us to think crime is inherent, which is a dirty, though sadly effective tactic for deflecting criticism. It appeals to peoples' biases against other groups, like women against men as sexual predators; it fosters the politically correct notion of "revenge" in the justice system, so people who want rehabilitation can be scapegoated as pedophile/killer sympathizers; and like most American political discourse terminates thought and introspection by shaming people who want to get to the bottom of the issue as delusional. And of course there are the jackboots that would forgive a bullet to the crotch if you promised them "solidarity as a proud fellow <ethnic group> man".
User avatar #81650 to #81632 - publicpubic (03/27/2015) [-]
I agree with you.
What about "elected judged"? Do you think judges in America is more likely to send a man to prison for a small crime than in other countries, because then they can get re-elected on a basis that they get a lot of "criminals" behind bars?

Also, isn't the crime "kind of" inherited? I understand, criminals aren't born criminals, but some areas have more crime than others, and do you not think people born by criminals, in a criminal environment are more likely to become criminal themselves?

User avatar #81645 to #81632 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
>tryone joins bloods
>kills a crip
>goes to jail
>Shlomo Bitcoinberg get shekels from prison
User avatar #81646 to #81645 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
Tyrone isn't a blood until he gets into a maximum security prison for selling half an ounce of pot to a friend.
User avatar #81647 to #81646 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
User avatar #81648 to #81628 - publicpubic (03/27/2015) [-]
This seems weird to me. If the reward of the crime gets less (I see no reason for why a person who has a 50k+ income would rob a store to get a couple hundred bucks just an example ), and the risk of losing a lot (job, decent income etc) gets higher, wouldn't crime go down?

Are African-Americans just instinctively more likely to do a crime than Caucasians?

If you're born in a ghetto or a white sub-urban neighborhood seem more likely to be the reason for this.
User avatar #81649 to #81648 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
They want to be thugs, it's a part of their tradition.
User avatar #81633 to #81628 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
If the impulse to commit violent crimes is so strong in blacks that they would continue to do so even with no incentive and countless reasons to avoid legal trouble, literally all of them should be criminals, and as it stands, they're the biggest victims of black crime.
User avatar #81635 to #81633 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
> literally all of them should be criminals
If German women were raped by the Soviets then by your logic they would all be raped, since all weren't raped, the Soviets weren't rapists.
>they're the biggest victims of black crime.
And the biggest cause of black crime.
User avatar #81636 to #81635 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
>If German women were raped by the Soviets then by your logic they would all be raped, since all weren't raped, the Soviets weren't rapists.
I know you're trying to straw-man my argument, but you didn't even do that properly. I don't believe that either of these groups are innocent.
User avatar #81638 to #81637 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
Okay, and?
#81641 to #81638 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
Anime was a mistake, like niggers.
User avatar #81642 to #81641 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
That...actually, that's a very good way to put it, even though you probably don't mean it so.
#81643 to #81642 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
I put my Vladimir Putin real nice.
I put my Vladimir Putin real nice.
User avatar #81631 to #81628 - alimais (03/27/2015) [-]
Thank you, Factual Falcon
User avatar #81665 to #81631 - factual ONLINE (03/27/2015) [-]
It's a fact
User avatar #81614 - mvtjets (03/27/2015) [-]
If you don't worship our lord T you should honestly kill yourself
#81609 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
What have the Romans ever done for us?
User avatar #81629 to #81609 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
Advanced warfare.
User avatar #81663 to #81629 - klowserpok (03/27/2015) [-]
Didn't later Roman Legions get their asses handed to them by cavalry?
User avatar #81664 to #81663 - schnizel (03/27/2015) [-]
Well, from the front no, Caesars legions even held of elephants, but strikes from the rear would kill anyone, or flank attacks.
#81660 to #81629 - anonymous (03/27/2015) [-]
User avatar #81625 to #81609 - levvy ONLINE (03/27/2015) [-]
your mom
#81610 to #81609 - benderisgreat (03/26/2015) [-]
I'm gonna say circle track racing.
User avatar #81607 - benderisgreat (03/26/2015) [-]
Can you guys help me figure out which political party I belong in? I've tried all the online quizzes and they all tell me something a little different. If I'm an republican, democrat, left wing, right wing or liberal, I have no idea.
#81618 to #81607 - akkere (03/27/2015) [-]
The problem with political quizzes is a lot of them have different opinions on calibrating the values to different opinions and where they place you on the political axes.

If you wanted to go on a political self-exploration and figure out where you'd best fit, you should first recognize that the most common way (though not necessarily perfect) of doing so is looking at the main design of the political compass and understanding what the main axes are supposed to represent. Y axis is generally authoritarianism and libertarianism, which is fairly straight forward, while x axis is left-wing and right-wing, which is not so straight forward (Some corners of the compass lead to somewhat oxymoron ideals, like Anarcho-Communism).

Nothin' better for some quick reading than the good ol' Bickabebia

This'll only give you a rough scope though, and as you read more into politics whether in history or in real world events, you might find your sympathies with one orientation of the compass might change up a bit as you acquire a more example-oriented understanding of things.

As for pinpointing what party you'd fit in; What's your nationality? US Political parties aren't exactly straight-forward for instance, and in a few angles are actually self-counteracting in ideals.
User avatar #81619 to #81618 - benderisgreat (03/27/2015) [-]
Thank you.
User avatar #81622 to #81619 - lulzforgaza (03/27/2015) [-]
So did you figure out what you are?
User avatar #81621 to #81619 - akkere (03/27/2015) [-]
No problemo, mayne.
User avatar #81612 to #81607 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
Do you believe slavery is bad?
User avatar #81613 to #81612 - benderisgreat (03/27/2015) [-]
Yes I do.
User avatar #81615 to #81613 - pebar (03/27/2015) [-]
User avatar #81616 to #81615 - benderisgreat (03/27/2015) [-]
Because we are all human no matter how much you like fried chicken.
User avatar #81617 to #81616 - pebar (03/27/2015) [-]
what does that have to do with slavery?
User avatar #81620 to #81617 - liftingexplain (03/27/2015) [-]
Hes basically saying that because he believes all humans are equal, one should not be able to own another human being.
User avatar #81611 to #81607 - redandgreen (03/26/2015) [-]
Maybe you don't belong in any of them.
User avatar #81582 - kanadetenshi (03/26/2015) [-]
Goddammit there goes my little bit of hope for the US.

User avatar #81595 to #81582 - akkere (03/26/2015) [-]
I recall him doing something similar with his FAIR act, a piece of legislation that was supposed to fight off the ability federal government has to take property away from those who have only been suspected of committing a crime. Yet he's done little in his end to ward off the issue the Keystone Pipeline XL regarding the federal government's use of eminent domain to confiscate property for the project (the latest rendition of the bill for voting had a section regarding the defense of private property, but it only held a single line that simply stated no methods could be used that were against the constitution, which would effectively do little to nothing).

Just goes to show you shouldn't throw your chips to a politician because his policies are attractive; bills and legislation speak the truth in the end.
User avatar #81600 to #81595 - Shiny (03/26/2015) [-]
Well, it's not like anyone's gonna grease his palm for defending public siezure of assets. There's literally no point in being a politician in the US if you aren't corrupt.
User avatar #81590 to #81582 - Shiny (03/26/2015) [-]
lol, "massive-d"
User avatar #81584 to #81582 - lulzforgaza (03/26/2015) [-]
yeah that is pretty weird. Looks like he is pandering to other republican voters. This is just the beginning though, if he gets more and more popular he wills start going back on a lot of issues and changing his mind to pander.
#81573 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
&gt;&gt;#81510, I've decided to write my paper on anti-discrimination laws, specifically the civil rights act of 1964, and how they violate freedom of association.   
When I was arguing against political correctness, I cited a bajillion court cases that struct down speech codes on college campuses. I will not have court cases on my side in this one.   
BTW, my teachers is the type of liberal who openly talks about occupy wallstreet and trigger warnings and whatnot in class.
>>#81510, I've decided to write my paper on anti-discrimination laws, specifically the civil rights act of 1964, and how they violate freedom of association.

When I was arguing against political correctness, I cited a bajillion court cases that struct down speech codes on college campuses. I will not have court cases on my side in this one.

BTW, my teachers is the type of liberal who openly talks about occupy wallstreet and trigger warnings and whatnot in class.
#81596 to #81573 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
Why do you care about what your teachers believe
as long as you're objective about it and include the reasons for what you're saying, they can't give you a shit grade

Go fucking blow their minds
#81575 to #81573 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
well, I guess I do have this case

I might even put a trigger warning saying "this paper my contain viewpoints that some people will disagree with"

It's 2am and I got stuff to do tomorrow but I'm wide awake.
User avatar #81591 to #81575 - Shiny (03/26/2015) [-]
If you actually hope to change people's minds, maybe you should hold back the snark a little? You aren't arguing with neo-Nazis or Scientologists or whatever, there is a point in trying.
User avatar #81623 to #81591 - lulzforgaza (03/27/2015) [-]
The snark helps a lot. It really sticks it in the face of how ridiculous trigger warnings are.
User avatar #81592 to #81591 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
I suppose your right.
It's not really supposed to be persuasive anyway. I think we're just supposed to frame an ethical problem and maybe take a side.
User avatar #81594 to #81592 - Shiny (03/26/2015) [-]
Surely even your wannabe-leftist classmates can appreciate a devil's advocate argument.
#81624 to #81594 - anonymous (03/27/2015) [-]
"wannabe leftist"

no true scotsman
User avatar #81630 to #81624 - Shiny (03/27/2015) [-]
Googling "logical fallacies" is not arguing, yourgaylol.
User avatar #81602 to #81594 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
some new info: it is supposed to be persuasive
User avatar #81593 to #81592 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
User avatar #81576 to #81575 - redandgreen (03/26/2015) [-]
Good luck!
User avatar #81574 to #81573 - youregaylol (03/26/2015) [-]
purposely trigger him as a distraction
User avatar #81577 to #81574 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
That's kinda what I'm going for.
She assigned a paper on business ethics. I'm not going to write about something everyone agrees with; there's no point to that.

"embezzling is wrong" well, no shit
#81569 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
God Bless.
#81571 to #81569 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
#81567 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
Zodiac bound martyrdom seekers shall courageously encroach upon the Arab portion of the Persian Gulf.

t. Byposted, "knower"
#81563 - lulzforgaza (03/26/2015) [-]
Looks like someone is really butthurt...
User avatar #81570 to #81563 - redandgreen (03/26/2015) [-]
Just because Zayn left? Wow.
User avatar #81599 to #81578 - redandgreen (03/26/2015) [-]
It was just a joke, Zayn Malik left 1D.
User avatar #81604 to #81599 - lulzforgaza (03/26/2015) [-]
What a horrible joke, like people actually pay attention to that. What are you a 16 year old girl?
User avatar #81605 to #81604 - redandgreen (03/26/2015) [-]
User avatar #81559 - PopcornViking (03/26/2015) [-]
"After Pledging To ‘Repeal Every Word Of Obamacare,’ Ted Cruz Admits He’s Signing Up For Obamacare"

#81670 to #81559 - anonymous (03/27/2015) [-]
Many people will sign up for something they don't want when faced with massive financial penalty under the law for not doing so.
User avatar #81608 to #81559 - mixednuts (03/26/2015) [-]
You can't sign up for Obamacare.

Obamacare is not a program in it's own right, it's a set of regulations for health insurance companies.
#81572 to #81559 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
Republicans are Hypocrites.
User avatar #81580 to #81572 - lulzforgaza (03/26/2015) [-]
Hypocrisy is the very idea of being a democrat/liberal/socialist
#81606 to #81580 - anonymous (03/26/2015) [-]
User avatar #81564 to #81559 - lulzforgaza (03/26/2015) [-]
So I'm curious, what sites do you get your news from?

obvious prediction: all the leftwing ones!
#81565 to #81564 - PopcornViking (03/26/2015) [-]
i saw it on the trending sidebar on facebook

its not there now but it was before
User avatar #81560 to #81559 - akkere (03/26/2015) [-]
Not entirely 100%, but going from these sources


Lawmakers are required to acquire insurance through health care exchanges via the ACA. Not quite sure why it would be such a controversy. Is there some articles stating that he's going through the process in a non-mandatory measure?
#81533 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
All Kikes please leave.
All Kikes please leave.
User avatar #81568 to #81533 - garymotherfingoak (03/26/2015) [-]
then why haven't you left yet :^)
#81520 - pebar (03/25/2015) [-]
&quot;Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was captured by the Taliban after abandoning his post in Afghanistan and then freed five years later in a controversial trade for five Guantanamo detainees, was charged Wednesday with desertion. &quot;   
"Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was captured by the Taliban after abandoning his post in Afghanistan and then freed five years later in a controversial trade for five Guantanamo detainees, was charged Wednesday with desertion. "

User avatar #81523 to #81520 - lulzforgaza (03/25/2015) [-]
Well he wasn't worth the trade, that's my personal opinion. I can't say he deserves death because I'd never say that about a U.S soldier. Looks like he went through enough shit by being captive for 5 years.
#81538 to #81523 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
Fuck off kike.
#81516 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
User avatar #81566 to #81516 - marinepenguin (03/26/2015) [-]
Few hundred? Literally almost the entire Northern Vietnamese were fighting us in a guerilla war. You can't really beat an enemy like that when public opinion is against The war in the first place. We killed dozens of NVA and guerilla fighter for every soldier we lost, but they were fighting a war of attrition. We won Damn near every battle, but were forced to pull out.
User avatar #81597 to #81566 - niggernazi (03/26/2015) [-]
Amerikike sucks and lost big time against some fucking gooks who didnt know how to make anything else than cooking rice. So now you make a lot of war-action movies about heroical you all where in the vietcuck war to compensate for your unbelievable small dicks. Yeah and btw, same with the ragheads in middle east.
User avatar #81601 to #81597 - marinepenguin (03/26/2015) [-]
Yes. We lost in Vietnam, and we've lost in the Middle East. No patriotic idiot could deny that.

But saying that it was due to military blunder or the militaries inability to get the job done is just stupid. Vietnam was lost not on the battlefield, but at home. The military was winning, but public opinion at home forced politicians to also turn against the war. In the middle east (which wasn't a purely US involved conflict btw), we've won the vast majority of all Battles as well, but our governments poor planning and preparation for a war of occupation has led to the shithole that is the middle east today. It's not our military that has been incapable, it's been our government.
User avatar #81524 to #81516 - lulzforgaza (03/25/2015) [-]
If this is supposed to be a Vietnam war reference then make it

The part of the United States Army and Navy with 70's tech that could reach Vietnam + all the money America cared to spend on fighting against the domino effect


Millions and millions of Vietnamese gorilla fighters who carry little moral and a shit-stain, dangerous jungle
#81537 to #81524 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
Fuck off kike.
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#81513 - schnizel (03/25/2015) [-]
>mfw I will never be a medieval knight and fight the Hungarians crusaders
#81519 to #81513 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
Did you know that usurers were forbidden from being knights?

YFW you will never have your own fief
User avatar #81581 to #81519 - schnizel (03/26/2015) [-]
At least I have mount and blade.
#81525 to #81508 - radiserne (03/25/2015) [-]
"jewish reggae singer"
#81507 - pebar (03/25/2015) [-]
All right /politics/ listen up.
For my liberal English class, I need to write a long paper on business ethics. It has to be about a specific problem. I have to cite multiple peer reviewed articles on the topic.

I can't think of what to write about and I'm running out of time.
User avatar #81557 to #81507 - akkere (03/26/2015) [-]
What sort of paper is it? Exposition, or rhetoric?
I guess for both length and quality of content you could try to bring out the general issue of valuing labor and focus it on sweatshops and outsourced labor of second/third world countries. Comparison checking of the cost to produce an item + wages vs. the actual sale of item for very products and such, as well as comparing it to the industrial revolution of early US history that would later transform our economy from second-world/pseudo-first-world to primarily first world in nature.
#81561 to #81557 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
I was going to do it on trade liberalization (more free market) in China since the 70s but she said that was too broad a topic.

China had been a communist shithole for a long time. Its piss poor management lead to the deaths of over 50 million people from starvation. In the early 70s, it started privatizing its agriculture and that lead to a surge in food production. Even though the well being of everyone has dramatically increased, their leftwing parties criticize the policies for increasing inequality.
User avatar #81530 to #81507 - radiserne (03/25/2015) [-]
Laws prohibiting cloths that cover your face, aka laws against niqab and burkas.
Look up S.A.S. v. France, very important verdict as far as European law goes.

Also there is another verdict from ECHR where Britain was convicted for allowing British Airways to forbid one of its employees from wearing a veil during work. It's generally the verdict people take about when they discuss wether or not businesses should be allowed to dictate what their employees wear.
User avatar #81562 to #81530 - pebar (03/26/2015) [-]
EEOC v. Abercrombie & Fitch is a similar case in the supreme court that's currently pending. I might do it on that.
User avatar #81526 to #81507 - lulzforgaza (03/25/2015) [-]
The new bill in Indiana is about business ethics, am I wrong?
#81536 to #81526 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
Fuck off kike.
User avatar #81511 to #81507 - schnizel (03/25/2015) [-]
Hire people based upon their abilities, and whiteness.
User avatar #81510 to #81507 - kanadetenshi (03/25/2015) [-]
Anti-discrimination laws?
User avatar #81512 to #81510 - pebar (03/25/2015) [-]
IDK how I could stretch that into 8 pages
User avatar #81514 to #81512 - kanadetenshi (03/25/2015) [-]
How about discussing the racist history of worker unions in the US?
User avatar #81529 to #81514 - Shiny (03/25/2015) [-]
So being a racist union leader is bad but being a racist CEO isn't?
User avatar #81531 to #81529 - kanadetenshi (03/25/2015) [-]
When did i say being a racist CEO is a good thing?
User avatar #81589 to #81531 - Shiny (03/26/2015) [-]
It seems hypocritical to claim anti discrimination laws are bad but also slander unions as racist, when logically this means discriminating by race is fine in a free market.
User avatar #81603 to #81589 - kanadetenshi (03/26/2015) [-]
There's a fine difference between calling places racist and forcing them not to be racist. I support private unions as a means to voluntarily negotiate. And just like i oppose anti-discrimination laws for private companies i oppose them for private unions.
User avatar #81521 to #81515 - kanadetenshi (03/25/2015) [-]
It's a pretty good read. You could use the footnotes as articles and citation.

#81500 - pebar (03/25/2015) [-]
how great would this be?
User avatar #81503 to #81500 - kanadetenshi (03/25/2015) [-]
I'd be interested in how they're going to do this. The most logical way would be to genetically modify the plant so that Green Fluorescent Protein is encoded in it's genome. But that would make it shine all day instead of just in the dark.

Still far better than "Solar freaking Roadways"
User avatar #81502 to #81500 - schnizel (03/25/2015) [-]
That can't go wrong.
#81501 to #81500 - valeriya (03/25/2015) [-]
It'd get rid of one of my pet hate of cities.
#81495 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
White nationalists be like:
Omg ! The Jews are supremacistic, they talk about the chosen people!

then later..
Whites truly are master race!!!
User avatar #81496 to #81495 - schnizel (03/25/2015) [-]
Hit with the stick, don't get hit with the stick.
#81504 to #81496 - anonymous (03/25/2015) [-]
Cue meaningless metaphor...
User avatar #81505 to #81504 - schnizel (03/25/2015) [-]
We all want supremacy, the jewish one is bad for us.
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