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#119833 - alimais ONLINE
Reply +3
(06/19/2016) [-]
Good times to be alive
#119836 to #119833 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Yes it is.
#119842 to #119836 - canyou
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(06/19/2016) [-]
That's a great username by the way
#119844 to #119842 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Yep. The Juice is loose.
#119835 to #119833 - anon
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(06/19/2016) [-]
The Americans knew where they were the whole time.
Where do you think they get there money?
Not off oil alone.
#119817 - asotil
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(06/19/2016) [-]
#119816 - pebar
Reply +1
(06/19/2016) [-]
Brexit is more of a nail biter than the primaries

the suspense is killing me
#119821 to #119816 - thumbfortrump
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(06/19/2016) [-]
MP killed even before the election. There's so much tension it's ridiculous. If remain wins by a narrow majority, there will be chaos.
#119813 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/18/2016) [-]
So RWDS are becoming a thing in England. I wonder which traitor is going to get a bullet next.
#119822 to #119813 - thumbfortrump
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(06/19/2016) [-]
It's time to go.
#119823 to #119822 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Are you scared or something? Only traitors have a need to be scared.
#119824 to #119823 - thumbfortrump
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Do you consider yourself a person of democratic principles?
#119825 to #119824 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Certainly, but not when the people are being fooled by the media they consume. When that happens it is up to the strong and the bold to protect the people from all their enemies, even including themselves, and democracy be damned.
#119826 to #119825 - thumbfortrump
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(06/19/2016) [-]
If you consider yourself a man of democratic principles, the only traitor here is you for endorsing the killing of an elected representative.
#119827 to #119826 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
An elected representative who voted to replace the people of her nation with foreigners, and who made sure that these invaders were not properly screened before entry. An elected representative who complied with the EU which harms the sovereignty of every nation that it encompasses. Quite frankly this was not the murder of an elected representative, but the dispatching of a traitor to the entirety of the United Kingdom.
#119828 to #119827 - thumbfortrump
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(06/19/2016) [-]
So because you disagree with her you don't consider her an elected representative?

Do you even know how democracy works?
#119829 to #119828 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
The media lies to the people of Britain about the migrant crisis. She comes into power, and makes choices that actively harm the people of Britain. She is a traitor to the people of Britain. Its as simple as that. There is no disagreement about it. Migrants are harming the people of great Britain, and anyone complicit in allowing them entry is quite simply a traitor to the people.
#119830 to #119829 - thumbfortrump
Reply +2
(06/19/2016) [-]
>"There is no disagreement about it"

But that is where you're wrong, you fucking retard. You don't hold any universal truth.
All you have is an opinion, an opinion equal to everyone else's.
#119831 to #119830 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Nice relativism. It'll protect you when people are finally fed up with being exploited.
#119832 to #119831 - thumbfortrump
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Nah, my 2nd amendment will protect me. Any who wish to try forcing me into changing my opinion are welcome to try. It will not end well for them.
#119814 to #119813 - drastronomy
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(06/18/2016) [-]
>Killing political opponents
>Acceptable

This reeks of commie
#119815 to #119814 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Would you call Guy Fawkes a commie?
#119818 to #119815 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Yes
#119819 to #119818 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/19/2016) [-]
So the Catholic who attempted to blow up the protestant king of England is a communist?
#119820 to #119819 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/19/2016) [-]
Yes
#119800 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I wrote down a bunch of philosophical-type stuff last night. Just stuff that was running through my head. Does anybody want to see it? I'm asking because it's a bit lengthy.
#119802 to #119800 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I'd read it.
#119803 to #119802 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I call it 'The Line, the Other, the Self'.

Imagine yourself as a two dimensional creature in a two dimensional space. And yet the space is blank, as a piece of paper. A canvas that has yet to be filled. A world within which you exist, but all others, and all external logic and conventions, are cast out. It is a world of total, unadulterated freedom in the metaphysical sense. You are able to move about and do totally as you wish.

In this circumstance, does accomplishment have meaning? Do you possess a point of reference for the self?

Now imagine a line. You stand upon it, and can no longer do totally as you wish. This line is a representation of the fundamental restrictions of reality, immutable laws which cannot be altered. It is as ink upon the paper, whereas you are graphite. You as an individual will fade, whereas the line will always remain. It is what always was, always is, and always will be. In this circumstance, does accomplishment have meaning?

Yes. It is by the very nature of the line to limit your freedom over the world, yet to encourage freedom of the self, if not over the self. Without limitation, accomplishment means nothing because it is as an unstoppable force; it meets no resistance. And so we must come to the conclusion that the true virtue of accomplishment is not to be found in the action itself, but in the overcoming of limitation and adversity.

In this circumstance, do you posses a point of reference of the self?

No. There is you, and there is the line. And yet you do not fully comprehend the line by merely observing it, nor do you comprehend the self. After all, your only external point of reference is the line itself. You understand that you are fundamentally different from the line, and yet you do not know it, nor why. Are you not fundamentally different from the line after all? Do you impress limitations upon the line as it does to you? Is the line asking these very same questions of you, as you do it? The line, by the workings of the solitary mind, now represents the gap in perspective the self is born into, and which a solitary mind preserves.

Now imagine that there is another. The laws of the line apply to the other, as they do to you. You now posses by the mere existence of the other a perspective of the line, how it functions, and what it means. You know that you are different from the line because the other observes you to be different from the line, as you do for both it and yourself. The existence of the other corroborates the existence of the self.

And yet the other is not wholly the same. It's different from the self. So much so, in fact, that it possesses it's own self. And so, yet another limitation is placed upon individual freedom: the designs of the other. And yet it is by way of these differences that the positive effects of the other on the understanding of the self is maximized; through interaction with the other, we gain perspective of it, and built upon the point of reference for the self that it gives. We learn what we are by learning what we're not; we are not the line, and we are not the other. And so, we are we.

I think, therefore I am. Yet they think, so I am therefore not they.

In closing, it is by interacting with limitation that achievement is given meaning, and it is by interacting with others that the self is given perspective. Obstacles were born to be block the way, and people were born to lead it.
#119809 to #119803 - PopcornViking
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(06/18/2016) [-]
are you asking whether we think its eventually possible to feel pride in a scenario with no points of reference
or telling us its not possible
#119810 to #119809 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
What does pride have to do with it? This is more concerned with meaning and perspective.
#119811 to #119810 - PopcornViking
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(06/18/2016) [-]
pride in the individual
#119812 to #119811 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
What about it?
#119804 to #119803 - drastronomy
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(06/18/2016) [-]
What does two-dimensional space have to do with accomplishment?
Why would the value of accomplishment be determined by its longetivity?

Achievement is giving meaning by self-imposed limits, not external ones. If you base their value on how much better or worse others are, the achievment is for their sake and nothing more.
#119805 to #119804 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
It's thought experiment, the two aren't literally related.

The meaning of accomplishment is found in overcoming difficulty in general, bot external and internal. If it's easy, it doesn't mean much.
#119806 to #119805 - drastronomy
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(06/18/2016) [-]
"Easy" is relative to the individual
#119807 to #119806 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Even overcoming subjective difficulty has value as long as the value is legitimately there (ie running a marathon with a fake leg, for example).
#119808 to #119807 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
*relative
#119801 to #119800 - feelythefeel
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(06/18/2016) [-]
feelythefeel, marinepenguin, shekelnator, youregaylol,
#119795 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
/Communist+warheroes+comp/funny-pictures/5951063/

An in depth examination about communist warheroes, oc as always
#119798 to #119795 - PopcornViking
Reply 0
(06/18/2016) [-]
Quality shitpost

As a serious answer
Che could be considered to be a war hero to some
Cant really think of anyone else tho
#119796 to #119795 - aceofshadows
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(06/18/2016) [-]
yes
#119792 - joshlol
Reply +1
(06/18/2016) [-]
**joshlol used "*roll 1, Magic 8-Ball*"**
**joshlol rolls You may rely on it**

Should I vote remain?
#119794 to #119792 - lotengo
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(06/18/2016) [-]
JUST
GET OUT
#119793 to #119792 - joshlol
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(06/18/2016) [-]
#119791 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
#119779 - anon
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Pussy Riot Gets Whipped in Sochi People on this board will support this.
#119790 to #119779 - lotengo
Reply 0
(06/18/2016) [-]
2 minutes in and I already nutted
#119787 to #119779 - anon
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(06/18/2016) [-]
50 Gays shot dead in America.
4 Retards whipped in Russia.
#119783 to #119779 - alimais ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Too bad for whipped crybabies Cossacks kinda have their own autonomy on their ancestral clay
#119782 to #119779 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Pussy Riot does this stuff all the time to be controversial, because their music sucks and they could never survive from that alone.
#119777 - anon
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(06/18/2016) [-]
#119773 - drastronomy
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I recently had bit of an epiphany regarding the reasons for the downfall of the west:

People now a days tend to base their actions on emotion above all else - on personal and bodily pleasure, and on the premise of avoiding any negative emotion, no matter the cost.

This leads to debauchery. This leads to degeneracy. This leads to bleeding-heart liberalism. This leads to vanity. This leads to immigration. This leads to the death of Europe and the west, and Aristotle predicted it.

Thoughts?
#119788 to #119773 - anon
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Didn't Marx say the same thing?
#119797 to #119788 - drastronomy
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(06/18/2016) [-]
no lol
marx says "dude weed lmao working class" and then jerks off in his mothers basement
#119780 to #119773 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
"Downfall of the west"

Top fuckin kek bro.
#119778 to #119773 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
You should read up on the r/K selection theory in human beings.

It's also a fairly decent explanation I think.
#119774 to #119773 - thumbfortrump
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I definitely agree that a lot people act purely based on their emotions, and that they are willing to go extremely far to avoid any negative emotions. Far too many are incredibly ignorant on a lot of topics.

I doubt it will lead to the 'death' per se though, we are already seeing forces in motion pulling the opposite way, for example most are starting to agree that a common EU immigration policy is not feasible. But it's going to become a lot worse before it will better.
#119768 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

>The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic of life expectancy, education, and income per capita indicators, which are used to rank countries into four tiers of human development. A country scores higher HDI when the lifespan is higher, the education level is higher,the GDP per capita is higher, the fertility rate is lower, and the inflation rate is lower.


Why the fuck does low reproduction mean good development?
#119781 to #119768 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Success breeds decadence.
#119769 to #119768 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Usually as a country becomes more developed it's birth rate begins to decline. We see this happening in nearly every first world nation. I'm not sure why it would be included in this list though.
#119784 to #119769 - alimais ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
You know what we also see when birth-rates decline ?

D E G E N E R A T I O N
#119785 to #119784 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I guess that depends on your definition of degenerate.
#119786 to #119785 - alimais ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
References to the old romans
#119770 to #119769 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Look at KSA and Kuwait. everyone here bring 4-15 children and it has high HDI
#119771 to #119770 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Probably more related to culture, it seems that some groups usually have higher birth rates due to their nations central culture. But even then we still see a decline.
#119772 to #119771 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
kinda. Kuwait is made up mostly by foreigners. but our religious belief tell us to reproduce too much
#119761 - platinumaltaria
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(06/18/2016) [-]
is lotengo asking a stupid question below me?
#119775 to #119761 - anon
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(06/18/2016) [-]
its a legitimate question
#119776 to #119775 - platinumaltaria
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(06/18/2016) [-]
It would be were it not obvious.
#119760 - lotengo
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(06/18/2016) [-]
is platinumaltaria a tranny?
#119762 to #119760 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
seems so
#119763 to #119762 - lotengo
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Then why is it always sucking up to islam?
#119766 to #119763 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
OH WHAT

-arms to shoot some gay bar-

where i can allah kabr this time?
#119749 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Dear Gays The Left Betrayed You For Islam 1:46
#119897 to #119749 - undeadwill
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(06/20/2016) [-]
jesus fuck.
#119765 to #119749 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
now they have one options to stop their faggotry

*muffled oy vey from distance*
#119764 to #119749 - shekelnator
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#119767 to #119764 - shekelnator
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(06/18/2016) [-]
why the fuck this is not being deleted?
#119748 - youregaylol
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Just got back. Had to leave early to beat the traffic. I arrived an hour early, and had to wait three hours. Me and my gf were legitimately one of the lastt people in before they closed the doors.

The lines were ridiculous, the heat was hellish. Scalpers would sell watter at 2 bucks a bottle along with MAGA gear, some counterfeit.

Violence wise, the protesters were PATHETIC. Only like 20 of them, all young or old or mexican, all with shit tier signs. There was one fight that the cops broke up quick.

I would say there were 15,000 people there. Security didnt even check my ticket they were so swamped.

I am SHOCKED at how racially diverse the crowd was. The couple behind us were elderly Hispanic people, and there was a group of young hispanic men screaming for trump when he mentioned the mexicans who love him. He is NOT lying or exaggerating, besides whites Hispanics were easily the most represented group. I will admit there were very few blacks though.

Trump pointed out a "Gays for Trump" sign in the crowd and we all erupted. There was a massive sense of community in the rally, we all chanted and cheered in unision with complete strangers.

Really exciting. No violence at all when I left. Protesters were SAD. 9/100 experience, plus I got my first MAGA hat, though it may be counterfeit.

Feel free to ask any questions.
#119789 to #119748 - anon
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I bet you are fat as shit.
#119755 to #119748 - whitechino ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Hispanics- cubans, Puerto Ricans, and Cubans
Latinos- every below the border
I can see why hispanics don't like their cousins. They're the ones running away and bringing guns and coke.
#119756 to #119755 - youregaylol
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(06/18/2016) [-]
they were brown, some super brown
#119757 to #119756 - whitechino ONLINE
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Hispanics go from dark to white.
It's a mixture of Africans, Spaniards, and Tieno Indians.
#119751 to #119748 - youregaylol
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(06/18/2016) [-]
*9/10
#119750 to #119748 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
is there such thing as counterfeit MAGA gear?

is there an officially endorsed distributor?
#119752 to #119750 - youregaylol
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I mean from Trumps website. Mine has a weird band around it and has a strange curve to it that really emphasizes the words. Gf got a Hillary for prison shirt and button. Decent detail.

There was also a giant BBQ pit shaped like a revolver that was supplied by Open Carry Texas.
#119753 to #119752 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I've been considering getting a hillary for prison t shirt
#119754 to #119753 - youregaylol
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Longest lines in campaign history, by the end we were washing ourselves down in warm fountain water.

The old and infirm quit mid line, but there were still thousands who made the trip. People don't understand the type of magnetism Trump has. It's shocking.
#119726 - sixmillionjuice
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(06/18/2016) [-]
#119724 - canyou
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(06/17/2016) [-]
Look at this shit some faggot on my friend's list posted on Facebook. I called him out on it too. They're trying so hard to make this a "Christian conservative environment" thing.
#119725 to #119724 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
private employers should have the right to fire anyone for any reason

just because they legally can, that doesn't mean they will
#119758 to #119725 - thumbfortrump
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Only if it's not in violation with the contract itself or state contract law.
#119759 to #119758 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
well, yea
but they're agree to that before hand
#119727 to #119725 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Workers should have fewer rights and employers more is what you're saying?
#119747 to #119727 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
(reached reply limit)

>For one there are more workers than positions
that is the definition of unemployment and companies would only gain the upper hand this way when the unemployment rate is above the natural rate it's called Non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment, NAIRU, if you're curious which generally only happens during recessions

>For another an employee has to make more compromises to pick out a new employer, location schedule etc.
location is where the work is; the point is a little redundant
8 to 5 is the standard schedule accross many industires and everyone knows it so there isn't really a compromise.
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here.
#119728 to #119727 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
contracts have two sides
employees likewise have the right to not work for employers they don't like
#119729 to #119728 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
It's much easier for employers to be discriminatory in hiring than employees to be discriminatory in applications. The market isn't as competitive as you think.
#119730 to #119729 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
so?
#119731 to #119730 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
So "the market will sort it out" isn't a valid argument.
#119732 to #119731 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
After slavery and before the civil rights movement, black and white unemployment rates were virtually equal, even though that society was mach more racist than today.

Discrimination is expensive.
The market is a very powerful force, especially when people care about money.
It is often said "the only color the market cares about is green"

But even still, what I initially said was that people should have the RIGHT to.


Also, since you brought up the amount of leverage that each side has
what about private bakeries who don't want to cater a wedding? Catering is amazing for business which means it is very expensive to turn that business away.
A gay couple would just has to walk 2 blocks away to a different bakery who would be more than happy to have the business.
In that example, the couple has far more leverage than the bakery.
#119733 to #119732 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
There's a difference between customers and employees. It's a much smaller sacrifice for a customer for a 1 time service like a wedding cake to make an adjustment than an employee to make an adjustment in a job search.
#119734 to #119733 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
the marginal revenue provided by a one worker compared to another is also very significant.
Which is why companies spend a lot of time and money trying to find the right person for the job
#119735 to #119734 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
But the company has infinitely more leverage.
#119736 to #119735 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
likewise the customer has infinitely more leverage
#119737 to #119736 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Which is why I'm not talking about customers.
#119738 to #119737 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
I am
#119739 to #119738 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Then you changed the subject.
#119740 to #119739 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
the topic was discrimination
I expanded the scope
#119741 to #119740 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Ok, my contention is with employment discrimination.
#119742 to #119741 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
fine, I'll give 3 reasons which the government should not be involved in the private interactions among consenting adults yes, I intentionally phrase it that way

1. It's their business. For government to mandate an employer give a wage to a certain class of people removes the owner's control over their own stuff and violates property rights

2. Freedom of association is the cornerstone of a free society in that it allows people to peacefully cooperate towards mutually beneficial goals. Likewise people should be free to not associate because otherwise government compromises that ability. Similarly by using government to force people to associate against their will breeds resentment.

3. History has shown that even in a period of extreme racism, employment levels between blacks and whites were still equal.
In today's society which is vastly more tolerant granted it's not perfect , any real effects from allowing discrimination from a legal perspective would be negligible at worst.
In short, the market will take care of it.
#119743 to #119742 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
So what exactly magically negates the power deficit between employees and employers? Because you seem to think that will happen.
#119745 to #119743 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
and also the existence of similar companies who could produce at a lower cost if a bigoted company chooses to discriminate and it effect has to pay a premium to get the same work from a "privileged straight white male"

The company voluntarily chooses to pay an additional expense and gets nothing in return.
That is not a very successful business model
#119744 to #119743 - pebar
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(06/18/2016) [-]
Milton Friedman Speaks  13  Who Protects the Worker Lecture the existence of other employers who need workers
#119746 to #119744 - theism
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(06/18/2016) [-]
For one there are more workers than positions. For another an employee has to make more compromises to pick out a new employer, location schedule etc.
#119723 - shekelnator
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(06/17/2016) [-]
www.rt.com/usa/347223-gun-arrest-trump-rally/

HE DINDU NUFFIN HE BE A GUD BOI