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#20011 - seawrath (01/02/2013) [-]
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#20003 - nephritho (01/02/2013) [-]
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ban porn?
good one.
like that ever happen.
User avatar #19999 - ridiculiculous (01/02/2013) [-]
Don't ban mah porn!
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User avatar #19987 - kolsinder (01/02/2013) [-]
What's the deal with everyone preaching that "guns don't kill people"? You're right, Sherlock, the weapon bearer kills, not the weapon; that's flipping comparable to my spoon making pancakes. However, in order not to digress:

Why is it that the aforementioned people seemingly deliberately overlook the idea that it's guns' accessibility that is to blame? I'm fairly certain that no one's daft enough to believe that their very existence provokes murder. According to gun nuts, we need to vend more guns for self-defence purposes, which is ridiculous because it doesn't take a leap of imagination to realise that there would be less murders committed in a world completely bereft of guns than in one where everyone is armed to the teeth! As such, they are blissfully ignorant of the ease with which one can acquire guns and are wrong.
User avatar #20012 to #19987 - archosaurusrev (01/02/2013) [-]
Everyone is already armed to the teeth and as far as we have any rights of any kind, will be.

You just don't notice it.

Look at the Russian Revolution for example.

No one was allowed to own any of the weapons they used to rebel with, no one was allowed to even rebel in the first place.
User avatar #20176 to #20012 - kolsinder (01/02/2013) [-]
I don't, and that's precisely because it's so easy to acquire firearms, is it not? And I'm pretty sure that they weren't armed to the teeth in the Russian Revolution, there were just too many uprisings to quash. What's more is that it was still easier to acquire weapons back then anyways.
#19984 - repitem ONLINE (01/02/2013) [-]
Internet was made for people using it to store and share files,for contact between people and 
			
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		doesnt belong to any country,its a free thing.Ban porn? Definitely not.Just because christians are against it,THEY JUST COULD NOT WATCH IT.The people recording such things had the allowance from people starring in it to record and distribute it.If God really exists,then theyll just fuck up their lives by watching it,if not,nothing will fucking happen.All this because some butthurt christians are like "HURR YOU SHOULD WATCH PORN WE DONT WATCH IT AND IT DOESNT DISTURB US BUT YOU SHOULD BAN IT CAUSE ITS AGAINST OUR RELIGION DURR IF NOT YOURE GOING TO HELL HURRDURRFDURR".Ofcourse im not insulting all the christians out here,they are nice 
			
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		insulting those ones which think internet is their thing and they can demand it to even be destroyed.Those people are retarded.Dont like it? Dont watch it.Simple as that.   
MFW i saw "41% of Americans voted to censor the internet and ban internet porn".
Internet was made for people using it to store and share files,for contact between people and You need to login to view this link doesnt belong to any country,its a free thing.Ban porn? Definitely not.Just because christians are against it,THEY JUST COULD NOT WATCH IT.The people recording such things had the allowance from people starring in it to record and distribute it.If God really exists,then theyll just fuck up their lives by watching it,if not,nothing will fucking happen.All this because some butthurt christians are like "HURR YOU SHOULD WATCH PORN WE DONT WATCH IT AND IT DOESNT DISTURB US BUT YOU SHOULD BAN IT CAUSE ITS AGAINST OUR RELIGION DURR IF NOT YOURE GOING TO HELL HURRDURRFDURR".Ofcourse im not insulting all the christians out here,they are nice You need to login to view this link insulting those ones which think internet is their thing and they can demand it to even be destroyed.Those people are retarded.Dont like it? Dont watch it.Simple as that.
MFW i saw "41% of Americans voted to censor the internet and ban internet porn".
#20010 to #19984 - seawrath (01/02/2013) [-]
"Just because Christians are against it, THEY JUST COULD NOT WATCH IT"

a green thumb for you
User avatar #19985 to #19984 - repitem ONLINE (01/02/2013) [-]
Also,about the second thing,which is "In a recent poll, 61% of FJ voted those who don't believe in God shouldn't have rights."..So i thought all the people in the world are supposed to be semi-free.(as in they have to work,get money to get things and obey law).Not giving non-religious rights would be a ridiculous thing to do,and simply disrespecting them and their opinion.People are supposed to have their mind,and they should not be treated worse than others.Why they should even do such thing? What did atheists and other people like that do to religious? You need to login to view this link the past non-religious people were stalked and forced to change their mind,if not they are killed.You guys want to bring that back? Not give rights to some people which may do a lot for the world,but it might go like "Oh,i found cure to a lethal disease/i found a way to end wars/i found a way to end world hunger.Even though,i dont have rights.Why should i give anything to these people when they dont give even the most basic stuff,i mean the rights i would have if i would be religious? Fuck you guys ill keep it for myself"...Thats how it could go.
User avatar #19983 - akg **User deleted account** (01/02/2013) [-]
Funfact:
2 people were shot and killed in Norway in 2012. 2 out of 5 million.

29 people was killed in the whole country last year, not counting traffic accidents and stuff like that
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User avatar #19991 to #19989 - akg **User deleted account** (01/02/2013) [-]
Allowed for hunting, and untill now not legal even for police officers.

You need a licence to get one. Pretty much.
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User avatar #19996 to #19995 - akg **User deleted account** (01/02/2013) [-]
Not zero of course, but way less than countries with more liberal gun laws.

Close to all gun-related crimes are commited by foreigners and immigrants.
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User avatar #20004 to #19997 - akg **User deleted account** (01/02/2013) [-]
I'll try, though most sources would be in Norwegian. I'll translate as good as I can.

nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.8280691 - NRK is the biggest national news channel, and the title reads "Man (31) shot and killed in Oslo"

"Etter det NRK kjenner til knytter politiet skytingen til en konflikt i det pakistanske gjengmiljøet.

Politiet hadde natt til tirsdag ingen navngitte mistenkte, men kjenner identiteten til skuddofferet.

– Vi vet hvem den avdøde er. Han er en kjenning for politiet, bekrefter Arve Røtterud.

Etter det NRK erfarer knyttes han til en av de kriminelle gjengene i hovedstaden. Konfliktnivået i gjengmiljøet skal ha økt de siste ukene."

Which roughly translates to

"According to NRKs sources is the shooting tied to a conflict in the pakistanian gangs.

Police had no named suspect night to tuesday, but knows the identity of the victim.
- We know who the diseased is. Has had problems with the police before, confirms Arve Røtterud.

According to NRKs sources is he tied to one of the criminal gangs in the capital. The level of conflict has increased the last couple of weeks.

The other victim was shot and killed by a Norwegian man, so that's an exception.
It's hard to determine how many guns there are in Norway, but most of them are used by hunters and gun collectors. As the illegal weapons aren't registrated anywhere and is so rarely used, it is hard to find them. Numbers are therefore hard to come by, I do however have some sources.
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User avatar #20005 to #20004 - akg **User deleted account** (01/02/2013) [-]
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=597703 - VG is Norways 2nd biggest newspaper, and therefore a reliable source. The case is about a raid against a romanian gang in oslo.

www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/krim/vaapen-og-narkotika-funnet-i-razzia-284 2001.html - Tv2 is the biggest channel in Norway, so that's a reliable source. Weapon and narcotics were found in an appartment owned by African immigrants.

There is also a case from 2009 where a biker gang was raided and the police found several weapons. None of them used though.
User avatar #19980 - fffffffuuuuuuuuuuu (01/02/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-CLsMRcA0

Check this video out. (fun channel by the way)
It shows some arguments for this topic
#19977 - anonymous (01/02/2013) [-]
keeps guns for self defence and it says in the constitution that we can have guns and also dont get rid of porn its their body not urs they can do what ever and people will get rapped more cause the rapers dont have a way to controll it
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#19976 - thewotch (01/02/2013) [-]
All hail T.
#19974 - tentaquil (01/02/2013) [-]
hue hue hue
#19973 - bigwhitehound (01/02/2013) [-]
HELL! FUCKING! NO!!!!
Is some asshole TRYING to start a wave of rape!! Without porn, especially internet porn, a lot of people, men AND women, wouldn't have a "outlet" . And would inevitably find one, for good or ill.
User avatar #19970 - derpityhurr (01/02/2013) [-]
it seems magical fairy princess really wants to speed up this board
#19972 to #19970 - yourbed (01/02/2013) [-]
He just want to see us tear eachother apart here.

and yes, we should ban guns and replace them with horse dildios.
They will think twice when slapping someone with a horse dildo.
User avatar #19969 - andrewluu (01/02/2013) [-]
It makes more sense to ban rifles and keep handguns for self defence.
User avatar #20018 to #19969 - kedarded (01/02/2013) [-]
That is so stupid I don't even know where to start...
User avatar #20214 to #20018 - andrewluu (01/02/2013) [-]
Enlighten me. I want to know.
Keep in mind I come from Australia where we banned guns for most of the population after a shooting that killed 20+ civilians.
Now we don't get any of this shit.
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#19967 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/02/2013) [-]
No. It won't stop people from getting guns and killing, it would only stop people who use them to defend themselves. You can stop your internal dialogue now. You are wrong, get over it. K? k. bill hicks
User avatar #19975 to #19967 - albita (01/02/2013) [-]
In my country guns are banned unless you are a hunter and you're just able to get a shotgun, obviously you would get arrested if you go walking on the streets with the shotgun and to be honest I haven't seen many murders where guns have been used.
User avatar #19978 to #19975 - techketzer (01/02/2013) [-]
Guns don't magically make people into violent criminals.
The intent is what leads to the crime.
User avatar #19981 to #19978 - albita (01/02/2013) [-]
I'm sure if that guy hadn't had a gun, and I'm talking about the Newton guy, I think that's the name of the town, he couldn't have killed all those children in just a few minutes and people would have stopped him more easily...
User avatar #20248 to #19981 - techketzer (01/03/2013) [-]
Oklahoma city bombing.

Nobody needs guns to commit a massacre.
User avatar #20272 to #20248 - albita (01/03/2013) [-]
Well ok, let's everybody have guns and let's all walk on the streets with guns, having guns don't do anything when it's about killing and it's very safe that anybody can have a gun.
I don't think that boy knows to use bombs, I'm talking about ''normal'' people!
User avatar #20274 to #20272 - techketzer (01/03/2013) [-]
I agree. When everyone is armed and trained, an attack like that will be stopped within seconds.
When every moment costs a life, you don't want to wait for the police to show up.

Highschool chemistry knowledge and a few wikipedia articles are enough to brew something extremely dangerous.
Timothy McVeigh made his bomb from commercially available fertilizer and racing fuel.
User avatar #19982 to #19981 - violenthandjob (01/02/2013) [-]
A man in China went into a school and stabbed twenty children the same day.
User avatar #19986 to #19982 - albita (01/02/2013) [-]
Ok, that can happen but wouldn't it be much easier if he had a knife instead of a gun? there would be more hopes if a crazy man entered a school with a knife instead of with a gun, teachers would have it easier to stop him, at least that's what I think...
User avatar #20106 to #19986 - violenthandjob (01/02/2013) [-]
A weapon is a force multiplier, you get out of it what you put into it.
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User avatar #20001 to #19994 - albita (01/02/2013) [-]
If that guy has a knife or something like that and you know how to fight or you are lucky or whatever, there are more possibilities to stop him...
User avatar #20000 to #19994 - albita (01/02/2013) [-]
There are murders of any kind... I perfectly know that, I'm just saying that it's easier to stop a guy who has a weapon that shoots than a weapon who would imply to make more efforts to kill someone, that's what I say.
User avatar #19966 - responsibletim (01/02/2013) [-]
No. Guns don't kill people, the person does. Plus, criminals wont follow that just like they don't obey any other law. It's logic.
User avatar #19964 - artisticotaku (01/02/2013) [-]
I don't think viewing porn should send a person to prison. Making that the reason why is really defeating the purpose of putting people that should be in jail, by putting people that did something not nearly as bad. Like smoking weed, a guy will get a longer prison sentence than a man that has killed a person? That just isn't write, and that's the same with this porn scenario: wasting time arresting people that didn't do something harmful enough to end up in jail, while people that are getting high on crack are becoming a threat to their families or the community and etc.

Sorry if this rant is stupid. Down vote me if you want. Or etc. I don't know. I just thought that it was ridiculous to see that obama may ban porn. Ban certain porn (child porn, etc.) but a person watching regular normal porn? to be put in jail for that? that is just crazy.
User avatar #19965 to #19964 - artisticotaku (01/02/2013) [-]
p.s., sorry if this post makes no sense, i am practically brain dead from being up all night.
User avatar #19963 - JariWeis ONLINE (01/02/2013) [-]
I think magical fairy princess needs to stop pulling those numbers out of his fucking ass.
#19962 - anonymous (01/02/2013) [-]
I'm for the ban of selling guns to regular civilians. Hunting or diving gear is fine as long as they have all the proof that they need them for their hobbies, but if you can sell a gun to the first Bob or Dick or Mary who comes in and claims he wants a piece for "self defense" is just plain wrong.

That, and thieves.
User avatar #19971 to #19962 - andrewluu (01/02/2013) [-]
As far as I understand, a major argument presented by many US citizens:
-guns far too entrenched in society, too hard to take them away from people. [unregistered etc]
->people with no guns can't defend themselves against people who illegally own them

Otherwise there is really no reason not to ban them
User avatar #19961 - cakemachine (01/02/2013) [-]
Banning guns wont make them magically disappear. Banning them might however make it harder for some people to access them. Which might in turn save lives.
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