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#80559 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
BlackBrunch (PDX)

I remember when I used to like black people
User avatar #80576 to #80559 - radiserne (03/17/2015) [-]
This is as much white people's fault tbh. They're just sitting there, taking it. How can you expect someone who is wrong to do right, when you accept and tolerate their wrongfulness.
User avatar #80634 to #80576 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
I think the problem only really started when they bought into it and just decided to play along. I can understand if they just wanted to sit it out and wait for them to move on so they could go back to an enjoyable brunch as soon as possible, but standing up and raising their fist and playing along will only make them want to come back and keep doing it over and over again, and making it worse for everyone else. It's not exactly a war of attrition if you're supporting the other side.
User avatar #80579 to #80576 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
Victims of black-on-white crime are still victims that shouldn't be blamed for their misfortunes. Nobody is responsible for the actions of others.
User avatar #80609 to #80579 - radiserne (03/17/2015) [-]
A parent is responsible for a child it didn't raise properly, as is a society for a group of bad-behaving people it failed to do nothing about.
User avatar #80612 to #80609 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
And Americans are as bad at race relations as they are at parenting. I'd rather deal with our problems than our fucked concept of a solution.
User avatar #80636 to #80612 - radiserne (03/17/2015) [-]
America will always have race issues, it's too big a part of their history.
User avatar #80583 to #80579 - schnizel (03/17/2015) [-]
Yet when it comes to the work of others, please give me the cake.
User avatar #80585 to #80583 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
I'm honestly not sure if you mean this sincerely or sarcastically.
User avatar #80587 to #80585 - schnizel (03/17/2015) [-]
Figure that out yourself.
User avatar #80588 to #80587 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
I'm guessing it changes on a whim based on whatever context is useful in an argument.
User avatar #80590 to #80588 - schnizel (03/17/2015) [-]
Is a father responsible for his child?
User avatar #80593 to #80590 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
Do you really base your worldviews on stupid rhetorical questions like that?
User avatar #80595 to #80593 - schnizel (03/17/2015) [-]
I see that your father never loved you.
User avatar #80596 to #80595 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
He loves me a lot. Where do you think I get my "libtard" opinions from?
#80655 to #80596 - cabbagemayhem (03/17/2015) [-]
Definitely not research!
User avatar #80598 to #80597 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
Right, silly me for expecting a South Yurop inbred to understand social dynamics.
#80599 to #80598 - schnizel (03/17/2015) [-]
Go away Mongol.
User avatar #80600 to #80599 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
Did you, a racialist, just accuse me of being a member of a haplogroup that contemporary white supremacists tout as superior?
User avatar #80603 to #80600 - schnizel (03/17/2015) [-]
Go away Shiny Khan.
#80570 to #80559 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
I remember when I used to like white people

See how dumb it sounds?
User avatar #80561 to #80559 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
I don't know if it's staged or not. It looks like it probably is.
I don't think you should judge a whole race based upon the actions of a minority though. Whether you disagree with them or not they have the right to free speech, just as the coffee shop owner can ask them to leave and the others in the shop have the right to leave.
Black lives do matter, just as much as the lives of anybody else regardless of their race.
#80563 to #80561 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
They've done a handful of other stand-ins such as that one.
I base my generalization on the fact that most black people on social media and elsewhere blindly condone this type of behavior.
Black lives only matter when they're the lives of criminals who resist arrest and assault police and get shot for it. They clearly don't matter when they're taken by other blacks, which happens everyday. Why didn't they name the people killed by black-on-black violence in that video? Because it would have taken a few months.
User avatar #80566 to #80563 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
I get your point but although the loss of an individual life is equally important the crime is not the same. It is a greater crime, in my opinion, for the state or its representative to kill a person without due process than for another individual to do so.
User avatar #80569 to #80566 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
They're the same crime. The real difference is much worse--the state usually gets away with it.
User avatar #80571 to #80569 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
I think it's worse. The state should be there to protect its people and their rights. So it's a betrayal of citizens as well as killing.
User avatar #80572 to #80571 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
An ideal state is a pragmatic representation of the people as a whole. Needless to say, this does not and probably never will exist. It's our job to keep society from falling apart, but it's comforting to think that problems will just magically fix themselves if we all uniformly give a shit only about ourselves.
User avatar #80574 to #80572 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
Are you responding to what I posted here?
User avatar #80575 to #80574 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
Yes.
User avatar #80577 to #80575 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
Then I don't understand what you think I said to explain your response.
User avatar #80578 to #80577 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
It was basically expanding on your second sentence.
User avatar #80580 to #80578 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
Well, yeah. I agree with what I think you're saying. I think people should peacefully protest against injustice and be aware and thoughtful of others.
User avatar #80581 to #80580 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
I agree in general, but there is a time and place for violent opposition, because once a society is too deep in its own hole, we tend to treat peaceful resistors as our enemies.
User avatar #80602 to #80581 - redandgreen (03/17/2015) [-]
I believe in peaceful, civil resistance. I've never been in a position where I felt threatened for my life though and had to seriously consider if I would violently resist.
#80548 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
One day, schnizel got nigger all over his shoe.

No matter how hard he scrubbed, it wouldn't come off. He had to buy new shoes.
#80549 to #80548 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
schnizel is a nigger himself
User avatar #80535 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
www.funnyjunk.com/Please+help+admin/text/5485005/
Some of you guys should know ecomp, he was a casual lurker and poster on this board. He was unjustly banned for criticizing the side bar scroller by admin.

Please just right "Justice for ecomp, unban him" and help our friend. Anyone can do so.

Thanks guys.
#80550 to #80535 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
why would we listen to a kike like you?
User avatar #80537 to #80535 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
What's with the comment he posted on ecomp's profile? Did he just search him for every account he made for making that comment and banned him regardless if he used them to thumb himself up?
User avatar #80538 to #80537 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
I don't understand what you mean (I know what you are referring to just not what you are saying)
User avatar #80539 to #80538 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
Admin has this thing where he'll sometimes see a comment he doesn't like, and checks if you made multiple accounts based on the IP(s) you've logged in with the account you made the comment on. If he finds multiple accounts, he'll ban you (usually permanently) regardless if you made those accounts for thumb abuses or for the sheer fun of it like ironically posing as an explain.
It looks like the comment he posted was him copy/pasting one such report he'd get if he made a check on someone.
User avatar #80541 to #80539 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
He was banned for "spamming suggestions board over and over" when he really only posted 1 comment that admin got butthurt over. Admin basically lied and permabanned him.

Reminds me of the USSR during the 30s and 40s.
#80635 to #80541 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
Reminds me of the Nazi Germany during its whole existence.
#80560 to #80541 - cabbagemayhem (03/17/2015) [-]
The world you're looking for is "Nazi".
#80551 to #80541 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
he spammed and got banned get over it
User avatar #80542 to #80541 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
ohh and he also bickered with admin because of the comment and admin got buthurt at him for that.
#80554 to #80542 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
your stupid as shit
User avatar #80540 to #80539 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
Well again that is just completely ridiculous and abusive of power.

Do your part, write "Justice for ecomp"
User avatar #80543 to #80540 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
Post'd, and I made sure to point out how peculiar it was for him to ban frequent posters like him yet make posts asking for people to post more.
Just like how it's unusual for him to say "I don't believe in whining" yet go "I'm in a pretty rough patch, guys." repeatedly
User avatar #80544 to #80543 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
Yeah he is a beggar, like a homeless man on cocaine. Takes a hit and in a couple hours he is back for more. I swear if admin doesnt do this and bans me I'll fucking make sure to find a list of great proxies and wip out firefox and spam anywhere and everywhere
#80546 to #80544 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
BE SURE TO SPAM WITH SOME FAT BEN POSTS
#80530 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
Thought you guys would like.
#80529 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
toprightnews.com/?p=8697

Two niggerellas beat up on a white girl and her little brother, just for going to a public park the niggers apparently claimed ownership of.
User avatar #80516 - akkere (03/16/2015) [-]
www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/16/393331669/russias-putin-life-would-be-too-dull-without-rumors
Just thought I'd let the board know that Putin has returned from his abduction by aliens, covering it up as a "trip to Switzerland".

On a side note, anyone catch the number of /pol/ posts from the past few days with all the whacky rumors?
User avatar #80527 to #80516 - redandgreen (03/16/2015) [-]
Maybe he just needed a break.
User avatar #80526 to #80516 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
As he was captured and abducted the body guards where in shock and awe as they heard a muffled ayy lmao in the distance.
User avatar #80523 to #80516 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
Like 10,000. Fucking annoying.
User avatar #80517 to #80516 - schnizel (03/16/2015) [-]
That's an alien.
User avatar #80518 to #80517 - akkere (03/16/2015) [-]
What if it's two aliens? One, standing on top of the other? That way, they can lie and say they aren't one alien, for they are in fact twice.
User avatar #80519 to #80518 - schnizel (03/16/2015) [-]
Nah, their arms are too thin.
User avatar #80520 to #80519 - akkere (03/16/2015) [-]
What if they're /fit/ aliens?
#80495 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
Find Shiny.
User avatar #80531 to #80506 - jewishcommunazi (03/16/2015) [-]
Definitely the most convincing costume of them all.
User avatar #80507 to #80506 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
God knows what they did to that poor dog.
User avatar #80509 to #80507 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
The dog and me are the only ones in the picture I would spare.
#80502 to #80495 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
He's not in the picture because he's off fucking a Bowser suiter somewhere.
#80501 to #80495 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
Nice try lulz but you can't hide from me.
User avatar #80498 to #80493 - akkere (03/16/2015) [-]
I'm wondering if four year degree programs were any different from a few decades ago than they are now. At Rutgers I've noticed there's a larger pursuit to obtain the bare minimum of a C rather than a B or an A in the science-focused courses. At first I thought this was due to the number of non-STEM focused majors being forced to take it as electives, but then I noticed even for courses that are mostly engineer-exclusive even had some students with the mindset.
No one's really looking to understand or excel with the content, just do the bare minimum to pass the tests.
User avatar #80494 to #80493 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
I would be interested in seeing more studies on why they're less skilled. Comparing the circumstances of the test subjects, where they where born, how they where raised, what kind of environment they're growing in.

To me it always seemed like Americans are more likely to settle for minimum wage jobs as a safe bet rather than taking risks, mainly because they took up the job in order to repay debt and tuition which over time stack so much up that they get discouraged to continue.
#80483 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
[Saxon intensifies]

We need a history board.
User avatar #80496 to #80483 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
You can just post it here, history is always politics related.
User avatar #80479 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
you should be sleeping pebar, not looking at this board at 1:45am.
#80492 to #80479 - pebar (03/16/2015) [-]
but...... I was!!!!
User avatar #80490 to #80479 - jewishcommunazi (03/16/2015) [-]
The free market doesn't fix insomnia.
#80503 to #80490 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
>Buy melatonin supplement.
>Fixed.
#80552 to #80503 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
melatonin is a placebo effect it only works for stupid people
User avatar #80514 to #80503 - jewishcommunazi (03/16/2015) [-]
Thanks free market!
#80473 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
One of my friends posted this. Any thoughts?

Also that last word is just Russia, couldn't put the whole thing in the photo.
User avatar #80474 to #80473 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
BS, Seen these /pol/ threads many times and I just ignore them.
User avatar #80475 to #80474 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
This isn't a /pol/ thread though.
User avatar #80476 to #80475 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
But this is the same material. Sourceless garbage with no reliability.
User avatar #80477 to #80476 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
Well if you look up "where is Putin" it does seem that he has been gone since March 5, and recently there has been a few high level people killed. If he doesn't show up to an important meeting tomorrow, it will only add to suspicion.

Plus one of his closest friends stated that he would support Putin "wherever his place in government may be", implying that he may no longer be in power.

It's probably bullshit and he has the flu or something, but it's at least suspicious. I know nothing about all those classified troop movements.
User avatar #80471 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
YFW AMERICANS CLAP AFTER LIVING IN GREATEST NATION THUBMS UP IF U LIKE FREEDOM This is hard to watch
User avatar #80461 - feelythefeel (03/16/2015) [-]
Welfare shouldn't be some callous plot of vengeance against those of worldly endowment. It shouldn't be "Rich man, give to this poor man!". Neither should welfare be charity. It shouldn't be "Rich man, please give to this poor man".

Welfare should be a means by which we, as comrades, raise our fellow countrymen out of poverty and into the standards we hold ourselves and our nation to. It should be "American! Help us make more of this American! Help us make more of America!".
User avatar #80464 to #80461 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
Meanwhile in Canada
User avatar #80465 to #80464 - feelythefeel (03/16/2015) [-]
That's not in Canada. We're welfare state as fuck.
#80466 to #80465 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
>Failing this hard to get the joke
User avatar #80467 to #80466 - feelythefeel (03/16/2015) [-]
Oh, right. Well I'm of the opinion that Canada should be anschlussed by a Nat Soc America.
User avatar #80500 to #80467 - klowserpok ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
Nah man, BC will become part of the Chinese Peoples Republic of Canada before that happens.
User avatar #80468 to #80467 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
I have a hard time understanding if you are serious or just shitposting...?
User avatar #80469 to #80468 - feelythefeel (03/16/2015) [-]
I'm serious. America should become National Socialist, and then peacefully annex Canada. There would be nothing to stop us. We'd be without equal.
User avatar #80525 to #80469 - akkere (03/16/2015) [-]
Don't you suppose that would be terribly unrealistic, as that would ultimately require the destruction of the American Constitution, which would catalyze an even larger degree of infighting, as well a number of other aspects?
User avatar #80497 to #80469 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
Tfw being 1/8 Native American would make me a non citizen in my own country.
User avatar #80510 to #80497 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
Nah don't worry about it. National Socialist America won't be like Nazi Germany.
User avatar #80511 to #80510 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
I was of the idea that National Socialism usually revolves around having a "pure and superior" race, of which it's citizens are comprised of, while other races are considered guests and 2nd class.

What would a National Socialist US look like?
User avatar #80515 to #80511 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
In my personal opinion, A National Socialist America god I hate to use the word socialist but I'd rather have Nationalism then classical liberalism, fiscal policy is a discussion for another time would be like this.

So first let me establish the idea that culture in a country is very important. Culture makes us what we are, how we think, our attitudes to certain things, ie- what cultural marxism did in the 60s. So we want to establish and create a better culture in America. Now I wouldn't be slaughtering people on the street or something but I'd work to create a better culture for America.

So what is our goal? To keep America a white majority country with conservative values.

So immigration of course will be far more strict, and with a hint of discrimination, ie- we prefer Europeans to others. Obviously we work to assimilate, not to create a multicultural society. Affirmative action out right off the bat, everyone has equal opportunity to university therefore there is no quote on how many niggers you need. People will shun the LGBTQLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ community, especially anything after LG. Again, I'm not for murdering people, more of a cultural revolution.

It will be illegal to try and change the gender of anyone not 18+. Obese children will be looked at as child abuse (depending on height to age to weight ratio of course). Politicians, senators and above will be American born. Racial profiling is perfectly fine if a reason is given. Obviously pro-gun.

Now onto Mexico, our favorite wittle neighbor (of course not). There will be a good border built next to Mexico because the country and all below it cannot be trusted. As in they are literally invading America. So illegals will not be given status as citizens and will remain illegal as a punishment for illegally coming here, children born from illegals will however be American. Crossing to America is illegal and will be met with some kind of punishment. Employers can no longer higher illegals and will be met with fines. I'm not sure what I would do for the illegals who have lived in America for a long time, I'd have to think about that.

Onto muslims, you swear the oath without the burka crap, you testify without the burka crap, you show up to work with proper clothing, especially businesses that want business stlye clothing. You will not be met with religious accommodation.

Businesses have the right to deny service.

User avatar #80528 to #80515 - akkere (03/16/2015) [-]
But a number of these aspects directly contradict national socialism as a whole, pro-gun and businesses having the absolute right to deny service especially, because both of these rights alone could be used to oppose the regime.
User avatar #80532 to #80528 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
That's why I said I hated using the world Socialism. More like National Conservatism?
User avatar #80533 to #80532 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
Sounds like it would fit the bill, though it's more or less an oxymoron. A lot of politicians who fall under United States Conservatism don't exactly like the idea of the larger federal government that a National-anything would require, which would be necessary if Canada was even to be thought of being annexed at all (a silly thought in my opinion because of how much opposition it would be met with from everywhere in-USA, Canada, and the international stage in general).
Also, the degree of conservatives that this sort of structure would require are absolute opponents to illegals regardless of their "tenure" in living here; one year or twenty, they'd be thrown out. (Not a critique, just an observation for the "Not sure what to do for those that lived for a long time"). I'm pretty sure they'd even do away with the "naturalization by birth" bit unless you were born from at least one parent of US citizenship. Hell, I've even heard some wanting to go back to the old model of requiring to own property outright to vote.
User avatar #80534 to #80533 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
Yeah well my thought is that it would balance out.

Less immigration means we cut funding to all the immigration parts of the gov
No affirmative action means we also cut funding I will use cut funding interchangeably with less government

>It will be illegal to try and change the gender of anyone not 18+. Obese children will be looked at as child abuse (depending on height to age to weight ratio of course). Politicians, senators and above will be American born. Racial profiling is perfectly fine if a reason is given. Obviously pro-gun.
>Onto muslims, you swear the oath without the burka crap, you testify without the burka crap
No major government addition here. Just some laws.

>especially businesses that want business stlye clothing. You will not be met with religious accommodation.
>Businesses have the right to deny service.
Reduces government too

A lot of this stuff actually reduces government, except the Mexico thing of course. That would be a big project but it is necessary and I would say one of the most important (can't do without). But it would balance out with the others and it will provide many jobs, as well theoretically the problem would go away over time so it would reduce.

Also I don't really care for any annexation of Canada so that won't do anything.

>Also, the degree of conservatives that this sort of structure would require are absolute opponents to illegals regardless of their "tenure" in living here; one year or twenty, they'd be thrown out. (Not a critique, just an observation for the "Not sure what to do for those that lived for a long time"). I'm pretty sure they'd even do away with the "naturalization by birth" bit unless you were born from at least one parent of US citizenship.
Well I guess it's fine by me, this would probably make a big police state but like I said it would decrease over time. We can also take the funding from the enormous military budget which won't see any major decrease but may lose some percent due to the allocation of that money onto more important projects like the Mexico border.

>Hell, I've even heard some wanting to go back to the old model of requiring to own property outright to vote.
Which reminds me, you can't vote if you receive welfare should be one. This also obviously decreases big brotha gobment. And I think death penalty with an efficient system. As in if you are found guilty (and it would be 100% proof guilty of murder or attempted or rape) you cannot repeal your punishment and you will be killed in the next few days with an efficient method like firing squad or cheap poison or electrocution chair. Probably poison, it should be cheap though.

Yeah so it's not exactly National Socialism but it's definitely incorporating a great amount of nationalism.
User avatar #80536 to #80534 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
>this would probably make a big police state but like I said it would decrease over time
What if it didn't? What reason would the police state have to reduce itself in the first place, when it could find new ways to maintain itself? Take for example -
>Obese children will be looked at as child abuse
How else would one enforce this law without the "arrest" of a child, and forced medical examination on them on a large scale, without some kind of police state behind the issue? I'm not even sure if conservatives would advocate this sort of law to begin with for this reason and some others. The proponents to a police state will find a reason to maintain it as such, especially with how easily a place like Boston transformed into such after the Marathon Bombing.
>Which reminds me, you can't vote if you receive welfare should be one
I'd think on top of all this, Welfare as a whole might simply be abolished and done away with as well, as part of a pursuit to reduce the need for a federal government that comes with a good deal of conservative ideals. This could mount quite the opposition.

And that's not even addressing some other issues national conservatism will be met with; Where do we take our end of the war in the middle east? Do we give tax breaks to all religious institutions or just the Christian institutions "our nation was founded on"? Will we eventually end the federal government, akin to Anarcho-capitalism? If so, who stops or continues the immigration; the states? What happens to the eminent domain which is frequently brought up for projects like the Keystone Pipeline XL? Etcetera, etcetera.
User avatar #80545 to #80536 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
>What if it didn't? What reason would the police state have to reduce itself in the first place, when it could find new ways to maintain itself?
Well like I said this is a very necessary part of the resurgence of the nationalistic movement, I can't stress that enough. not that any of this is even remotely likely sadly Yeah police departments will probably be equipped with their own branches just for illegals but when the border is built these programs will naturally have a decrease in funding because statistics will show the amount of illegals are decreasing. Plus it won't really effect natural citizens too much except for the people who hired illegals maybe compensation for them could be in order, idk I don't want to get too deep into this .

>How else would one enforce this law without the "arrest" of a child, and forced medical examination on them on a large scale, without some kind of police state behind the issue? I'm not even sure if conservatives would advocate this sort of law to begin with for this reason and some others. The proponents to a police state will find a reason to maintain it as such, especially with how easily a place like Boston transformed into such after the Marathon Bombing.
Maybe we can do away with this idea because of muh freedom but I was really just talking about children that are severely obese and are not being helped. I think people who see this should have the right to call child protective services. Again I don't know about specific numbers but severely obese children. This won't really require much of a police state honestly..

>I'd think on top of all this, Welfare as a whole might simply be abolished and done away with as well, as part of a pursuit to reduce the need for a federal government that comes with a good deal of conservative ideals. This could mount quite the opposition.
Is this your idea as to something you would support or do you think it will just naturally happen? I'm not really about to due away with all welfare, however when I think of a situation like this, I almost feel like the people dont deserve the children and they should be taken away but that is going too far, IDK what you think? --> I mean a single mothers that literally cant provide for her children so she needs welfare to survive. I guess its kinda necessary for ones with too many children? I'm not sure, also tards and shit will of course get welfare for obvious reasons.

>Where do we take our end of the war in the middle east? Do we give tax breaks to all religious institutions or just the Christian institutions "our nation was founded on"?
Well what do you think? (also state if this is your own opinion or what you think would happen with the current system)

>Will we eventually end the federal government, akin to Anarcho-capitalism?
No

>If so, who stops or continues the immigration; the states?
Nope, federal takes care of this.

> What happens to the eminent domain which is frequently brought up for projects like the Keystone Pipeline XL? Etcetera, etcetera.
What do you mean eminent domain? Also give your own opinion because I am interested.
User avatar #80553 to #80545 - akkere (03/17/2015) [-]
I'm not really supportive of this idea as it just adheres to one end of the spectrum with little consideration to anything else. My personal opinion to the handling of the issues differs from a "National Conservatism" perspective in such a way that I don't think these issues can be handled so simply. Guess I'll just post my idea for solving an issue vs. the way I'd "think" a national conservatism approach would lead to

>Police state: Obesity and child protective services
The thing is, they'd still have to at least take the child to weigh them, measure their height, and so on. They could theoretically do this with a portable digital scale 'n' measuring tape, but they might still ask to enter the home to do so. Not to mention, in a court fight there'd be the question as to what caused a child's obesity, which could be dragged on depending on a school's cafeteria conditions and so on.

>Welfare, abolition or otherwise
I don't think Welfare needs to be abolished but reformatted. A more concerned effort needs to be made to train those who are unemployed to have the skills necessary to enter the work force, rather than just simply provide them checks of money and depend on them finding work with the available skill set they have. Single parents that are struggling are a big exception obviously, but then there's even many more questions regarding the handling of those with many kids, especially those that just keep having children to increase the amount of welfare they receive.
A lot of some more diehard conservatives that might entangle themselves in something like a national conservative movement might seek to remove welfare entirely, for a number reasons including seeing it as something that made America weak and in debt, and so forth. The fact is, in this day and age you need to become more skilled in labor to make more money, and a more ideal welfare program is to train you in such a way you can function in that job market. "Teach a man to fish" and so forth.

>Where do we take our end of the war in the middle east?
I'm not entirely sure, in terms of both personal opinion and how a national conservativism approach would take it. I'd think it would be ideal to maintain outposts to watch for Arab Spring nations that end up falling under militant rule, and so forth. Conservative approach might attempt to influence militants like historical approach in order to de-stabilize major organizations like OPEC, but I'm not entirely sure.

>Do we give tax breaks to all religious institutions or just Christian institutions
Lot of conservative groups tend to focus mostly on Christian institutions moreso than religious institutions in general. Personally? I think any sort of institution that does charity work should be entitled to tax breaks, religious or no. In other words, for the churches, temples, mosques, and so on that actually do work for the community and provide a function, those will receive tax breaks to ensure they'll have as much resources to do so. Otherwise, there's no real reason to allow them such.

>Eminent domain
Eminent domain allows a state/government to claim private property in the name of a development; doing so for non-essential use is illegal, but it's still done unless there's a lot of public attention against it (this part has always been my main complaint towards Keystone XL; we'll obviously need to fall back on it, but we need to construct the development in such a way we're not damaging other people's property or even outright stealing from the people for profit). How would a national conservatism approach this? Abolish it? Keep it? From the way supporters of the Keystone Pipeline haven't been making much effort to ensure private property owners are protected against eminent domain, it seems that this would not only be kept, but used in full force, which is shocking for anyone opposing the Federal/corrupt government in general.
User avatar #80557 to #80553 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/17/2015) [-]
So it seems that we have entangled ourselves into what National Conservatism would be like and what I would like the government to be. I personally hate playing word games so for now on I will be talking about my preferred government which just so happens to be conservative and nationalistic in nature, I understand that this is kind of an oxymoron when talking about fiscal policy but for that I would take a more free market approach. In today's society you just can't have a globalist economy and thrive

>>Police state: Obesity and child protective services
Good points were made and honestly it's not a big deal in my mind if it wasn't for the fact that SO many people in America are obese and overweight. Now I understand people get overweight 40's+ but there is no excuse for obesity especially in god damn children (unless rare conditions of course). So how can a government help decrease this without intervening in the market too much?

>and a more ideal welfare program is to train you in such a way you can function in that job market. "Teach a man to fish" and so forth.
Easy words but how would you actually do that?

>>Where do we take our end of the war in the middle east?
Agree, America should stay world police

>>Do we give tax breaks to all religious institutions or just Christian institutions
Agree, all charity work gets tax breaks (assholes will find loopholes in this but in lulzutopia loopholes will do not exist, lets imagine it that way)

>>Eminent domain
I guess there should be a good enough compensation in order. Or a "we will pay you if you let us build here" type of thing. Hard question.


User avatar #80470 to #80469 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/16/2015) [-]
Well good. I honestly thought the swift change in your political compass was too good to be true. I'm glad this board has at least changed 1 person not including me
User avatar #80462 to #80461 - youregaylol (03/16/2015) [-]
assistance for conforming to standards makes sense

however when there are no standards you end up with failures breeding failures
User avatar #80463 to #80462 - feelythefeel (03/16/2015) [-]
The National Socialist way.
#80459 - liberalgodess (03/16/2015) [-]
In the absence of access to safe abortion, waiting until after childbirth to terminate the fetus is a viable option.


>republicans' FW they want to deny women access to healthcare.
User avatar #80460 to #80459 - feelythefeel (03/16/2015) [-]
What Republican says that?
User avatar #80472 to #80460 - liberalgodess (03/16/2015) [-]
every republican ever
#80522 to #80472 - cabbagemayhem (03/16/2015) [-]
I've never heard a Republican say that. By any chance, did a Democrat tell you that's how all Republicans think?
#80484 to #80472 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
Because abortion makes up the entirety of health care.

>No abortion
>"MUH HEALTHCARE!"
#80458 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
User avatar #80488 to #80457 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
Also love the misleading title, these two things have nothing in common.
User avatar #80487 to #80457 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
>Statists create massive debt through government spending and tax increases
>Politician burdened by massive debt can't pay it all off
>"Clearly it's his fault hurr durr"
#80555 to #80487 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
you are fucking stupid
User avatar #80562 to #80555 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/17/2015) [-]
What an amazing rebuttal, did you get that one from your obligatory SJW insult book?
#80454 - Common Pepe (03/15/2015) [-]
>White students banned from event about equality because they were white and not "racialized" enough

This is the future you choose by being a liberal.
User avatar #80489 to #80454 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/16/2015) [-]
Racial segregation is a good thing now, hurray for left-wing tolerance!
User avatar #80513 to #80489 - redandgreen (03/16/2015) [-]
I'm left wing and I disagree with what they're doing!
#80485 to #80454 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
I Weep For The Future
#80480 to #80454 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
It makes me genuinely angry when people attempt to redefine words like racism to suit their ideology.
If we don't want to end up in a real nightmare thought police world this has to be challenged - it means we can't discuss issues properly because the language to do so has been taken away from us.
User avatar #80456 to #80454 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
>Equating being black to a being a cancer patient

Stopped reading there.
#80504 to #80456 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
America is the cancer patient, and these sorts of people are the cancer.
#80455 to #80454 - pebar (03/15/2015) [-]
"everything is fine" is the most common lie
"everything is fine" is the most common lie
#80434 - Common Pepe (03/15/2015) [-]
Young Girl And Her Brother Savagely Attacked

You see this shit?
User avatar #80478 to #80434 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
This is why as soon as I get out of military training, I'm buying and carrying a gun. I'm not saying I'd shoot anyone, but I'll defend another human being if I think they're in danger. This is just Fucking sick. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a part of a "polar bear" game. Where they find a lone white person, and gang up and beat on them simply because they can.
#80481 to #80478 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
I've never heard of a polar bear game. So, that's attacking a lone white person?
Is that common in the US?
User avatar #80482 to #80481 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
I've never personally seen one, but I love in an area with very few blacks. Although St. Louis is only an hour away.

Basically there are a couple variations of the game, but the core remains the same. Harm white people. One variation includes "the knockout game", you run up to an unsuspecting white person and try to KO them in one hit. I've seen videos of it happening to old women and man, pregnant women, and even children. They don't discriminate in age, sex, or condition.

The more common game is to find a white person who is preferably alone and unarmed, gang up on them, and ultimately jump them. They are by definition, hate crimes, yet they're never labeled as such. Usually just assault, if they're caught.
User avatar #80512 to #80482 - redandgreen (03/16/2015) [-]
Thank you. That's terrible, it should be classed as a hate crime, no doubt!
#80486 to #80482 - Common Pepe (03/16/2015) [-]
Can't wait til these people start getting shot for doing that shit.
User avatar #80505 to #80486 - marinepenguin (03/16/2015) [-]
One can only hope.
User avatar #80452 to #80434 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/15/2015) [-]
Meanwhile pseudo-liberals are making a childish tantrum over the n-word chant used at a frat.
#80449 to #80434 - cabbagemayhem (03/15/2015) [-]
Video was removed, but here it is on liveleak. It's a video posted on facebook of a brutal attack on a female and her little brother.
You need to login to view this link
#80441 to #80434 - radiserne (03/15/2015) [-]
Waiting for liberals to talk about this
User avatar #80439 to #80434 - schnizel (03/15/2015) [-]
The reason blacks can do what they want to whites is poverty.
-Shiny
User avatar #80567 to #80439 - Shiny (03/17/2015) [-]
Trust me, you all care a lot more about blacks than I do.
User avatar #80440 to #80439 - youregaylol (03/15/2015) [-]
i wouldn't be surprised if thats an exact quote
#80432 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/15/2015) [-]
Thought you guys may like this pic.
#80556 to #80432 - Common Pepe (03/17/2015) [-]
a ile?
#80444 to #80432 - klowserpok ONLINE (03/15/2015) [-]
Thats looking mighty racist, goy.
Thats looking mighty racist, goy.
User avatar #80438 to #80432 - radiserne (03/15/2015) [-]
Know the Danish chick, she's called Freja Wever, went to highschool with her.
User avatar #80437 to #80432 - redandgreen (03/15/2015) [-]
What is it supposed to represent?
User avatar #80445 to #80437 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/15/2015) [-]
White culture, White pride.
User avatar #80433 to #80432 - lulzformalaysiaair (03/15/2015) [-]
Can you imagine one like this for africa?
User avatar #80427 - feelythefeel (03/15/2015) [-]
Ideal Body >when people complain about "fat shaming"
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