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#23713 - repostsrepost (02/14/2013) [-]
Trying my hand at currency trading. Thank you Britfags. The Pound made me some money today.
User avatar #23705 - attacked (02/14/2013) [-]
y ya do dis to me name
User avatar #23708 to #23705 - mayormilkman (02/14/2013) [-]
I dunno. That's you get for choosing a word that is a part of English vocabulary.
User avatar #23757 to #23708 - attacked (02/15/2013) [-]
its always used here
User avatar #23792 to #23703 - beatmasterz (02/15/2013) [-]
You're preaching to the choir.
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#23724 to #23721 - devout feminist (02/14/2013) [-]
half the country doesn't
but ya this thread does
#23695 - DasSpiel (02/13/2013) [-]
B-but....nobody can corner the Dorner!
User avatar #23709 to #23695 - hippymofuka ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
To be honest, I think he might still be alive idk why but i just have a feeling.
User avatar #23710 to #23709 - themanwithnoplan (02/14/2013) [-]
He was confirmed dead awhile ago. All major news corporations will undoubtedly have a story by the noon tomorrow.

Unless you are one of those conspiracy theorists.
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User avatar #23720 to #23710 - samxdaxman (02/14/2013) [-]
#23715 to #23710 - threeeighteen (02/14/2013) [-]
Conspiracy theories makes the world interesting.
User avatar #23711 to #23710 - hippymofuka ONLINE (02/14/2013) [-]
im not a conspiracy fan or anything but idk there is just something fishy about that's all. I have been following the news on ccn and they said he is dead but they pnly had a wallet and they were going to get results, i guess they meant like DNA samples.
User avatar #23712 to #23711 - themanwithnoplan (02/14/2013) [-]
Yeah, I mean if you were you'd be having a fucking field day with it right now.
#23699 to #23695 - christopherdorner (02/13/2013) [-]
Don't let them fool you.
User avatar #23698 to #23695 - pebar (02/13/2013) [-]
that's he wears the "don't shoot; I'm not Dorner" shirt that everyone seems to have
User avatar #23689 - eight (02/13/2013) [-]
Who else doesn't like the idea of drones policing US skies?

Drones: Coming to a neighborhood near YOU!
User avatar #23727 to #23689 - teoberry (02/14/2013) [-]
Well, I'm not American, but I think it's pretty fucked. They should stick with cop choppers, and nothing more. Plus, knowing the US's history of watching others, I'm afraid they might send some of the drones north.
User avatar #23725 to #23689 - pebar (02/14/2013) [-]
As long as they're not looking into my house, I don't mind
I see no difference between them and street cameras used to catch traffic violations
User avatar #23728 to #23725 - eight (02/14/2013) [-]
I see a difference. On the road it is government property. And if you don't follow the rules, people can get hurt or killed.

When you are in your back yard or home, it is supposed to be your private property. They have no right to monitor you.

This drone program they claim is for domestic terrorism. They will be used by both law enforcement and Government agencies. And private business will be able to get their hands on them as well.

www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/64-drone-bases-on-us-soil/ - military drones map

www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/faa-releases-its-list-drone-certificates-leaves-many-questions-unanswered - non military drones map
User avatar #23734 to #23728 - pebar (02/14/2013) [-]
damn... there's a current military drone base less than 2 miles from my house....

anyway, it's like how police can bring dogs to sniff your car without a warrant, or how if police see drugs on a table while they're standing in a doorway, they can enter the house without a warrant, or if there's an emergency, like someone screaming inside the house, etc...
The freedom from search and seizure is there so that law enforcement can't barge into your home (or your person, car, etc), search through your stuff, make a huge mess, and leave you to clean up afterwards while you suffer through the emotional damage of what just happened. Also, warrants have to be specific; police can't just get a warrant to search the whole block.
A drone flying overhead isn't a search. Just because you're on your own property doesn't mean you're free to commit crimes. Even though they have drones, they still have to get a warrant to actually come into your house. It's not really monitoring because it's flying all around doing surveillance, it's not like there's a camera in your house 24/7. Unless they use the drones to spy on specific houses, it's still ok. As long as the law enforcement follows the rules (procedural law), it's still legal.
I'd prefer if they didn't but I wouldn't protest if they did. I'm not saying I don't mind because I haven't done anything wrong; I'm saying it because they legally can.

also, I do believe "domestic terrorism" as an excuse is bullshit
User avatar #23738 to #23734 - eight (02/14/2013) [-]
They aren't just watching. The equipment on these drones can pick up almost everything that is in your house. x-rays, thermal imaging, stuff I don't even know about and they are taking pictures of entire cities at one time that have the ability to get a clear picture down to an object 6 inches in size on the ground. Committing crimes or not, it is a huge invasion of privacy. They would be able to literally log files of our daily schedules.
User avatar #23739 to #23738 - pebar (02/14/2013) [-]
First of all, x-rays don't work like that.
And yes, I do think it's an invasion of privacy but law enforcement can still legally due it under the 4th amendment because they're not all in your face about it.
There are already lots of things that police can monitor without a warrant.

It's unethical, IMO, but not illegal.
User avatar #23706 to #23689 - Zarke (02/14/2013) [-]
I'm personally terrified of that idea even more than the idea that anyone could print out the shell of an AR-15 lower receiver with a 3D printer (I'm all for the right to bear arms, but there has to be some sort of barrier to entry like cost or something). I mean, the decision to make someone a target is effectively arbitrary and bypasses their right to a fair trial. I don't care how sophisticated their target identification ability is, there's too much room for error, human or technological.
User avatar #23690 to #23689 - paintbucket (02/13/2013) [-]
what do you think would happen if i shot at one?

i do remember FBI choppers flying over my field and house before.
presumably looking for pot fields. that was a while ago.
User avatar #23691 to #23690 - eight (02/13/2013) [-]
If you shot one? I'd give you a reward. Tell you what, I will buy a few of those RC flying toys and accidentally run them into drones flying above my airspace (if they are low enough).

FBI choppers yeah. I am used to seeing police choppers where I live, but they likely aren't equipped with thermal imaging and all the cool gizmos that give Drones the unique ability of invading everyone's privacy.

We already have to worry about Echelon monitoring all forms of communication.
User avatar #23693 to #23691 - paintbucket (02/13/2013) [-]
i'm pretty sure they fly really fucking high up.
i doubt you would ever see one anyway.
User avatar #23694 to #23693 - eight (02/13/2013) [-]
Probably not. Unless it is those micro drones.
#23687 - feelythefeel (02/13/2013) [-]
Abstinence training. Because teaching kids to simply not have sex will help them greatly when they inevitably have sex.

ITT: Abstinence vs sexual education.
#23726 to #23687 - devout feminist (02/14/2013) [-]
People who practice abstinence are disgusting, they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.
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User avatar #23707 to #23687 - Zarke (02/14/2013) [-]
I'm at peace with encouraging it (I mean, it IS the best way not to have a baby/contract an STI), but sex ed should be about teaching people to be RESPONSIBLE for and with their sexual activity. You're not educating anyone by simply saying "don't do it".
User avatar #23696 to #23687 - akkere (02/13/2013) [-]
Will only cause the opposite of what's intended; abstinence isn't something that can easily be pressed on people that have their hormones going nuts on them. It's kind of like how you'd find stuff like chicks from extremely religious families want to have sex as a (albeit irrational) way of getting back at their parents for making the topic treated so idiotically, if they forced abstinence without even an explanation.
#23675 - wretchedlarva (02/13/2013) [-]
Can someone please explain this situation about a cop killing other cops or something? I don't even know his name or what he did exactly...
Can someone please explain this situation about a cop killing other cops or something? I don't even know his name or what he did exactly...
User avatar #23719 to #23675 - oxan (02/14/2013) [-]
He was fired, and decided that he'd do something about the corruption in the LAPD (which got him fired) and then started sending a message.
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#23662 - Onemanretardpack (02/13/2013) [-]
User avatar #23669 to #23662 - teoberry (02/13/2013) [-]
awww shit mane they've yet to go instead or recover a body. considering his military training, it's probable that he escaped.
User avatar #23626 - CapnInterwebz (02/13/2013) [-]
Why does Boehner constantly look like he's shitting himself?
User avatar #23632 to #23626 - themanwithnoplan (02/13/2013) [-]
That's his secret.

He's always shitting himself.
#23666 to #23665 - themanwithnoplan (02/13/2013) [-]
I was hoping someone would.
User avatar #23633 to #23632 - CapnInterwebz (02/13/2013) [-]
what a sad, sad man
User avatar #23613 - CapnInterwebz (02/12/2013) [-]
What goes to hell first, the Iranian nuclear issue or the North Korean nuclear issue? I got $50 on some Far Eastern clusterfuck happening first, between China-Japan tensions and NK's blatant dismissal of the UN. Then again, there's plenty of fun cultural hatred in the Middle East too.
User avatar #23635 to #23613 - teoberry (02/13/2013) [-]
I think Iran first because of Israel. NK's arrogant and stupid but I doubt they'll attack. However, Israel will go for the preemptive strike and probably completely destabilize the region. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if the Middle East ganged up on Israel. They're stupid and think they're huge, when in fact they're entire country is almost 10x smaller than my province. They rely on America for a whole ton, and if the US said 'fuck it, we're not getting involved', then Israel would be almost utterly defenseless.
User avatar #23618 to #23613 - eight (02/12/2013) [-]
Iran only because relations are heating up in the the ME, primarily between Israel and Syria. That being said, Iran has remained peaceful for MANY years, so I can only see them as being attacked first for shit to hit the fan.

North Korea, I see them as a long list of empty threats. But if they can perfect their missile technology, I see no reason for them to avoid nuking people. They care little about their country so they won't fear retaliation from other countries. They will attack and hide in their bunkers. This providing they can actually perfect their tech.
User avatar #23623 to #23618 - attacked (02/13/2013) [-]
eight eight eight >:(
User avatar #23627 to #23625 - attacked (02/13/2013) [-]
Nothing, it is that you said my name more than once on different comments. :P
#23701 to #23594 - killyojoy (02/14/2013) [-]
I think world wars are going to be a lot more common Honeslty the only reason we probably havnt had them in the far past is because we did not have the technology to move great distances so quickly or get information within minutes of its happening.
User avatar #23610 to #23594 - CapnInterwebz (02/12/2013) [-]
Only a matter of time before shit goes down over there too apparently.
User avatar #23619 to #23610 - eight (02/12/2013) [-]
Ticking clock.
User avatar #23588 - roliga (02/12/2013) [-]
Yesterday Biden said he was counting on the "legitimate media" to help the Obama magical fairy princessistration push gun control on the American people. Translated: He's counting on the anti-gun media to push their anti-gun agenda on the American people. Biden also took the opportunity to chastise Social Media;

"The social media that exists out there, the tragedies that have occurred, the Supreme Court decision affirming that its an individual right to bear arms - all give a lie to the argument that what we're trying to do is somehow unconstitutional, or somehow goes after the legitimate right to own and bear arms and to hunt and protect yourselves."

They're scared of Social Media because it gives a voice to the people and denies the mouthpiece of the magical fairy princessistration their voice (aka the Main Stream Media).

User avatar #23668 to #23588 - Zarke (02/13/2013) [-]
How the fuck can you call one form of media less valid than another? If I delivered my message via song, is it less "correct" than if I filmed a commercial? Media should be judged by content rather than by delivery.
User avatar #23678 to #23668 - Onemanretardpack (02/13/2013) [-]
When the bias is actually palpable, you should change news stations. News with any kind of bias stops becoming news and starts becoming someone's agenda, and then ends up just being entertainment, with no real news value. Just playing the same goddamn celebrity news story over and over again so people will ignore the real important things because they can't be bothered to care about international conflict.

User avatar #23614 to #23588 - CapnInterwebz (02/12/2013) [-]
There's more to the Obama @dministration than the garbage that Biden excretes
#23593 to #23588 - pebar (02/12/2013) [-]
And with that, I have lost all respect for the Obama magical fairy princessistration. I don't even care where they stand on other issues, besides gun control, anymore. This is utterly pathetic; they have reached a new low.
#23603 to #23593 - HOtaconE (02/12/2013) [-]
Oh no, my guns, that makes that person wrong about everything else, no other issue matters!

NRA fags in a nutshell. Fuck everything and everyone, as long as you can have your toys.
User avatar #23679 to #23603 - Onemanretardpack (02/13/2013) [-]
Infringing any kind of right is wrong. I'm liberal on almost every other issue, but people like you are why shootings happen. How are gun free zones going for ya? How about crime in states with strict gun control? Worst case, my "toys" sit in their case and see no use besides the range. Best case, I can save someone's life or my own. I don't hurt people, so excuse me if I don't see why taking away my right and hobby is necessary
#23584 - wretchedlarva (02/12/2013) [-]
Thoughts on anonymous? I would like extended arguments, not small comments.
#23702 to #23584 - killyojoy (02/14/2013) [-]
I don't think its possible for me to have accurate thoughts on anonymous they are a unorganized group with no set leaders or agendas. They are in fact anonymous and they have such a wide range in beliefs and agendas that they can't really be pin pointed on one specif action.
User avatar #23636 to #23584 - teoberry (02/13/2013) [-]
I think they were once okay, but now they're all just little script kiddies. The group has zero organization, only a few people can actually do shit, the rest just rely on programs they've downloaded. Now it's just the next place for edgy 12 year olds to hang out and feel cool.
User avatar #23591 to #23584 - duudegladiator (02/12/2013) [-]
Can't give you any "extended comments" persay, but my family thought they were a terrorist group not 2 years ago, and now they see Anonymous as a hacktivist group attempting to make government feel uncomfortable, and letting the American public be informed.
User avatar #23580 - darudelink (02/12/2013) [-]
Does anyone know what time the State of the Union address will air on the east coast?
#23577 - niggernazi (02/12/2013) [-]
can someone please tell the difference between communism and retardness?
i keep mixin em up
User avatar #23671 to #23577 - oxan (02/13/2013) [-]
Communism is a political ideology with actual credibility, retardness isn't anything, since it's not a word.
User avatar #23578 to #23577 - paintbucket (02/12/2013) [-]
one is organized in some manner.
#23579 to #23578 - niggernazi (02/12/2013) [-]
thanks for your answer bro.

Here is a bumblebee for your reward.
User avatar #23558 to #23556 - pebar (02/12/2013) [-]
if north korea doesn't act very carefully, it's gonna get wiped off the planet by preemptive strikes...
#23565 to #23558 - ulcis (02/12/2013) [-]
Preemptive strikes? They are going to blow themselves up before they do anything to anyone else.
User avatar #23553 - paintbucket (02/12/2013) [-]
oh that sucks.
i live in michigan and we use canadian pennies just the same as US pennies.
my bank even gives me canadian pennies.

i'm going to miss it.
User avatar #23656 to #23553 - arisaka (02/13/2013) [-]
We in Quebec are cheering now that we get to deal with one less canadian thing! MUHAHAHAHA

I actually stockpiled a few. Gonna make penny necklaces one day for shits and giggles.
User avatar #23688 to #23656 - paintbucket (02/13/2013) [-]
i have a few canadian pennies from different years starting in 1955
you can watch the queen age and feel the copper get lighter.
User avatar #23700 to #23688 - arisaka (02/13/2013) [-]
I have a nickel from 1947. I think that's the oldest coin I have.

I also have a Canadian 50 cent coin!
User avatar #23566 to #23553 - akg **User deleted account** (02/12/2013) [-]
Meh, I haven't paid anything in cash in over a year.
User avatar #23554 to #23553 - paintbucket (02/12/2013) [-]
oh yeah, the question
do you think the US should get rid of our penny?

personally i don't.
they're trying to make it cheaper to produce.
User avatar #23684 to #23554 - Onemanretardpack (02/13/2013) [-]
I think we should get rid of everything below the quarter, and price things so that we don't need them. Production dimes and nickels and pennies costs millions of dollars every year, when we use them less and less. The only reason most of us have any at all is because we got them with our change from a purchase, not because we need them
User avatar #23570 to #23554 - moser (02/12/2013) [-]
I don't see why we need them anymore, the only place where a denomination that small is useful is the digital stock trades on Wallstreet, and since non of that is physical currency I don't see why we need to produce pennies if it's not cost effective.
User avatar #23561 to #23554 - cleverguy (02/12/2013) [-]
if they make it cheaper to produce, then by all means keep makin em
User avatar #23555 to #23554 - pebar (02/12/2013) [-]
I don't think we should but I wouldn't be disappointed if we did. Most of our cash is electronic anyway and counting out exact change is tedious; easier to round to the nearest nickle.
User avatar #23540 - Shiny (02/12/2013) [-]
How political discussion should go:
>current event is brought up in conversation
>politely present and back up opinions to one another
>end with a newfound perspective and a feeling of insight and validation

How political discussion actually goes:
>get asked about your political orientation
>get blatantly and incorrectly told to your face what your beliefs are based on a very simple label
>receive bitter, condescending vitriol about a very large and generalized group of people that you are somehow dragged into
>get asked to defend assumed beliefs of yours that you don't actually have
#23657 to #23540 - devout feminist (02/13/2013) [-]
Politics: More straw men than a cornfield.
User avatar #23601 to #23540 - akkere (02/12/2013) [-]
Sounds 'bout right.
User avatar #23569 to #23540 - moser (02/12/2013) [-]
Pretty much.
User avatar #23546 to #23540 - finni (02/12/2013) [-]
I agree with you. I think that debating should help you increase your knowledge of what the subject is about. You get to know what you opponent think and after the debate you can prepare yourself to answer the arguments you opponent had the last time.

It helps me a lot to debate with people with different views, but unfortunately the debate is rarely debated in a grown up matter. I try, but it's not that easy, especially when your opponent respond with feelings or doesn't respect your views. There's a clear difference between respecting somebody's view and agreeing with their view.
User avatar #23542 to #23540 - pebar (02/12/2013) [-]
"liberals get all their information from propaganda and vote solely based on emotion and don't even think about the consequences of their uninformed actions."

like that?
User avatar #23543 to #23542 - Shiny (02/12/2013) [-]
Pretty much. Or something about conservatives and bigotry and corporate enslavement.
#23534 - repostsrepost (02/12/2013) [-]
Pick one:
You have no right to vote or have any say in what the government does but you are guaranteed(let's assume this can hold true permanently) all your freedoms are protected, taxes are low (lets say 10% flat or any number you'd like) and you can go about your daily lives with zero government interference

You live in a democracy where you can elect whose in charge, there's total government transparency, the will of the majority of people is followed closely but there are no restraints on what the government may do in regards to fiscal policy or social policy.
User avatar #23575 to #23534 - eight (02/12/2013) [-]
1. That screams recipe for disaster to me.
2. Better but, I think someone could create a more efficient system.
User avatar #23571 to #23534 - moser (02/12/2013) [-]
2, but only if it's strictly local government encompassing something about the size of a city and everything coming in and going out of the city such as media, people, and physical goods and resources can be perfectly regulated.
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User avatar #23562 to #23534 - oxan (02/12/2013) [-]
The second option. I would never want to live in a country in which the government neglects it's responsibility to protect its people.
User avatar #23538 to #23534 - pebar (02/12/2013) [-]
Could you clarify "zero government interference?" Police, roads, public school, stuff like food quality standards, etc? or is it total anarchy, in which case, why bother with a tax at all
#23539 to #23538 - repostsrepost (02/12/2013) [-]
Well of course there's a military to prevent invasion, and lets say the only laws are that you can't kill or harm someone else(physically or theft or damaqe of property) And it requires a small police force to enforce that.
User avatar #23541 to #23539 - pebar (02/12/2013) [-]
I leaning more towards 1
People can always agree to split the cost of a road or set up their own schools. It's social contract all over again

the second leaves it wide open for a police state
User avatar #23672 to #23541 - oxan (02/13/2013) [-]
The first option leads it wide open for corporate rule, with poor quality food, and tolls EVERYWHERE.
User avatar #23536 to #23534 - Shiny (02/12/2013) [-]
#1, honestly. I'd probably care much less about politics if I needn't worry about them.
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