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#34648 to #34640 - byposted (06/13/2013) [-]
This is why traditional marriage was an important institution in American life. You would marry a woman and not be allowed to get out of it so easily. It worked well and there were very few children born out of wedlock. The value of the Church came into play here in molding American society.

Now we have only come to encourage Infidelity, and what were once other social deviancies. Even among the Black community such things were not seen before the 1960s.
#34649 to #34648 - Womens Study Major (06/13/2013) [-]
Whacha gon do bout it?
User avatar #34656 to #34649 - byposted (06/13/2013) [-]
Absolutely nothing. The liberals can continue to dig their grave. I sincerely hope more and more negroes embrace this sort of neo-polygamy with their baby-mamas. Let homosexuals "marry," lower the age of consent to 8. Embrace all manifestations of individualism, no matter how poisonous to the nation they are.
#34653 to #34649 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#34642 to #34640 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
7 minutes of my life I will better spend, taking away 11 minutes of my life, and just to say you guys really need to stop supporting the lumpen, they're absolutely useless on all levels and every system all they seem to do is get in the way.
#34620 - feelythefeel (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm in need of witty jokes about every US president, preferably usable in an old timey styled two person routine. I have a couple as of now.

"How many Obamas does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
"I have no idea. How many Obamas does it take to screw in a lghtbulb?"
"Nobody knows, yet we all know it only takes one to promise that he'll do it next term!"

"Did you know that William Henry Harrison was the best president we've ever had?"
"Why would you say that?"
"It only took him a month to get nothing done!"

You guys have any? Keep it funny and PG13.
#34623 to #34620 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
1/10 Improve efficiency or die building a canal for world trade.
#34626 to #34624 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Panama canal joke, something like 28000 workers died building it, compared to convict manual labour build baltic - white sea canal in which only 12000 died.
#34627 to #34626 - feelythefeel (06/13/2013) [-]
And that's relevant... how?
#34629 to #34627 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
So Stalin says to Teddy Roosevelt "See that canal 12,000 convicts died building it by and now it has several electricity generators and has shipped 193 million tons of cargo in its life time, that is the glory of 5 year plans!"
And I forgot what I was going to make Roosevelt say... Something something racoon on head.
User avatar #34771 to #34629 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
That's actually pretty funny as it is...
#34630 to #34629 - feelythefeel (06/13/2013) [-]
I don't understand.
#34636 to #34630 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
I thought that was a racoon, somehow, I really am too slav for this shit.
#34638 to #34637 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
I don't either, but Americans should stop shitting on firearms, you don't see Roosevelt with any rails on his firearms.
User avatar #34772 to #34638 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
>So you think you are like American movie guy John Rambo

#34628 to #34627 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Well it's something to laugh at about Roosevelt unless you can mock being manly as hell in whatever society you live in.
#34602 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
Legalizing illegal immigrants.   
Let's talk about about it.   
I think companies will lose their source of cheap labor. These unskilled workers will now be unemployed so they'll be competing with other unskilled workers who are citizens. More people who are eligible for benefits such as welfare will be stuck on the program and tax payers will be forced to deal with it. If we had a bit laxer minimum wage laws, this surplus of labor could be accounted for.
Legalizing illegal immigrants.
Let's talk about about it.

I think companies will lose their source of cheap labor. These unskilled workers will now be unemployed so they'll be competing with other unskilled workers who are citizens. More people who are eligible for benefits such as welfare will be stuck on the program and tax payers will be forced to deal with it. If we had a bit laxer minimum wage laws, this surplus of labor could be accounted for.
User avatar #34655 to #34602 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Illegal immigrants put in about $15 million into Social Security each year. They only take out about $1 million. It's cause it's easy to put money into the government, but hard to take it out.
User avatar #34646 to #34602 - Shiny (06/13/2013) [-]
It's a very tricky issue. Illegal aliens actually contribute a lot via taxes, even though they have no access to any government services beyond a state level, if that.
User avatar #34647 to #34646 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
So they should stay illegal
User avatar #34672 to #34647 - Shiny (06/14/2013) [-]
Obviously, sweeping generalized amnesty is stupid, but the belief that illegals are leeching off our society is patently false. It would not kill us to lighten their burden.
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User avatar #34634 to #34602 - mykoira (06/13/2013) [-]
two letters: EU
User avatar #34635 to #34634 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
Send the 11 million unskilled illegal immigrants to Europe and let them deal with it?
User avatar #34652 to #34635 - mykoira (06/13/2013) [-]
sure, why not, our old Minister of Social Affairs always said that our culture needs enrichment and imigrants are enrichment to our culture
#34639 to #34635 - byposted (06/13/2013) [-]
Keep in mind that 11 million is a compressed number. The European Union will need to annex Morocco and send a chunk of the around 25 million illegals there. Sweden would love to take a few million, most likely.

Since the Mexicans will whine about slavery, and being taken away from their homeland, pic related. They are property of the state now.
#34641 to #34639 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
BETTER IDEA, we dump them on Georgia and Israel, no one likes either of those countries.
#34631 to #34602 - byposted (06/13/2013) [-]
Everybody with a brain knows that accepting Illegal Immigrants, legalizing them, further, will not bring any benefit to our country. They will take more from the coffers than they will ever give back in taxes. Their offspring will only become more criminal, as statistics show. It is a question of such legislation passing.

The only major Republican provision in the "bi-partisan" plan for legalization is securing the border. They obviously haven't been paying attention for the last decades. Border control spending has increased nearly 10 times since 1993 and yet this has shown little to no results. It is true that that a record number of Illegal Immigrants are being deported under Obama, but this is more the result of Immigration Enforcement, not border control. And Immigration Enforcement will only have more to deal with if Immigration Reform passes! It is projected that 22 million will be hopping the border to reunite with their newly legalized family members in America if such a bill lands on Obama's desk.

Just like with the Reagan amnesty, the predicament of stopping further Illegal Immigration is left for later, to never be taken care of.


Schumer said giving billions of dollars to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) will lead to increased border security, even if illegal immigrants are given amnesty first. He promised that assurances of future border security measures would be maintained.
He pleaded with other senators, “If you have a better idea" on how to secure the border "tell us." Though Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Rand Paul (R-KY) have offered outlines of amendments that would improve the border security provisions in the bill, Schumer did not say he would support them.

I hope most Republicans will see that their careers are on the line, not just the country, which they seem to not care of
User avatar #34633 to #34631 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
I agree...
and Schumer is a statist douchbag who doesn't care about the welfare of the country.
#34604 to #34602 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
The solution is make more industry.
User avatar #34605 to #34604 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
you need more demand for products for that
#34606 to #34605 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Well you've got the immigrants who will want more things, provided your local industry can compete with outside sources then well it should work out fine.
User avatar #34607 to #34606 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
But the immigrants are already here and already demanding thing.
Also during economic recessions, people save money instead of spending it so people are demanding even less. This bill should've waited until the economy was in better shape.
#34609 to #34607 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Yeah the thing is most those (Illegal) immigrants are poor they can't afford mid to high end consumer goods so there's gonna be a demand there, and doesn't that say alot about people, you're meant to save during the good times and spend during the bad times, and with this modern only holding value by law, not to mention corporate enterprises holding 50% of your economy, so 50% of your economy is untouchable you can't beat it into gear only throw money at it, and if you try to compete they will scream MUH BUSINESS FREEDOMS, why didn't you guys listen I mean honestly last tolerable republican president.
User avatar #34614 to #34609 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
What would you have them do, force people to spend their money?
FDR had the right idea with his fireside chats...
#34616 to #34614 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
(This is assuming a "capitalist" system) Firstly break down corporate enterprises end this too big to fail nonsense, forcibly break them into smaller businesses, if they fail they fail plain and simple, so now you don't have to throw money at the top and have it trickle down what you do now, is you throw money at the bottom giving the lower middle class downwards a "tax break" in the form of a voucher make the voucher so that only local and medium size businesses can redeem them from the government so you're not forcing them to spend you're incentive's them, worse comes to worse you could pull a Cyprus (By that I mean take money directly from peoples bank accounts) and then just throw "free" consumers goods back at them. Or very worse arbitarily declare war on another great power get a load of the workforce killed and at the end cut your military industrial complex down put it into balance cut it down to size honestly too huge here (Refering back to Eisenhower there)
User avatar #34618 to #34616 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
Sounds good but I'm a bit skeptical...
Also there are certain companies that are better off being large due to massive input costs, such as Boeing.
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#34643 to #34585 - repostsrepost (06/13/2013) [-]
I dunno I kinda like what he did with the USSR.
#34645 to #34643 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Really. I mean honestly.
#34650 to #34645 - repostsrepost (06/13/2013) [-]
And by "what he did" I mean assist in its collapse.
#34657 to #34650 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Ehhhhhhhhhhh, I probably wouldn't be as annoyed as I am if it wasn't late even though by this time the Union wasn't socialist they still had heavy amounts of hardliners in the military and party (Hell there are still lots in the Army) , and t he almost saved the USSR (although not in its current state search Union of Sovereign states, it would've been like Serbia and Montenegro until 2006) then said hardliners tried to seize power (This is what I've meant in the past when I say soviet reactionaries), but liberals stopped them the rest of the states withdrew their support from the deal because they thought Gorbachev wasn't in control anymore.
#34644 to #34643 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #34632 to #34585 - Shiny (06/13/2013) [-]
gorby pls
User avatar #34589 to #34585 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
Oh lord.
#34593 to #34589 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #34748 to #34593 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
Well, to be fair, he didn't have much to work with. I won't say I hate him, but I'm not a fan.
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User avatar #34783 to #34782 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
Glorious pizza. I miss Italy...

Socialism had been long been abandoned by the time he came to prominence.
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User avatar #34785 to #34784 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
Whatever his intentions, he failed miserably. It's something I'll look more into.
#34786 to #34785 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #34787 to #34786 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
Very true.
#34588 to #34585 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Firing line.
#34590 to #34588 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#34592 to #34590 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
Both are equally shit, Gorbachev was weak, so was Yeltsin both fucked up on a massive scale, note that when Putin came to power and didn't fuck up instantly he's now being held in near godlike status by the lumpen.
User avatar #34587 to #34585 - CapnInterwebz (06/13/2013) [-]
>is the host with the most glasnost
>shook hands with both ronalds
>name does not end with "-in"
>had the balls to let baryshnikov dance
>took down that wall
>knows how to handle real power, requires neither showers nor yoga

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User avatar #34554 - djequalizee (06/13/2013) [-]
[url deleted by government]
#34569 to #34554 - Womens Study Major (06/13/2013) [-]
the government...
User avatar #34570 to #34569 - djequalizee (06/13/2013) [-]
[url deleted by mother fucking Obama himself you fucking anon faggot]
#34571 to #34570 - valeriya (06/13/2013) [-]
it would appear you are upset regarding your own stupidity for which you were mocked
User avatar #34600 to #34571 - djequalizee (06/13/2013) [-]
>Implying i was serious
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User avatar #34535 - cycloneclone (06/13/2013) [-]
This is my comment reposted from content's comment section.
This is coming from someone who really doesn't follow politics that much but I still have my opinion. I really really really believe people are overreacting to the whole situation, it shouldn't even be an issue. As people have said in other comments, this IS NOT the first time it has happened before. And please, please, please, don't just blame Obama for the whole ordeal, he really has nothing to do with it. Yes, the government did lie about it but its really not that big of a deal and I have no problem with it, it's for our safety and doesn't invade your privacy at all. No one has ever listened in on one of your calls or ever will, unless they do it sometimes when you call customer services but thats not the government and doesn't matter to the situation. Just another case of people finding something to bitch about even though it not even that big of a deal. But again I really don't know a lot about politics and very well might be wrong.
User avatar #34560 to #34535 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
>it's for our safety and doesn't invade your privacy at all.
Having the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie accessing your data, etc, is not for your own safety.

It doesn't really matter that you or I might not have our phone calls listened to immediately, but it's the principle of the matter. It's a slippery slope to totalitarianism for the capitalist state.
#34617 to #34560 - Womens Study Major (06/13/2013) [-]
you seriously are a fucking moron, aren't you?
User avatar #34751 to #34617 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
'It's okay if the bourgeoisie do it!'
User avatar #34540 to #34535 - medewu (06/13/2013) [-]
Trust your government and any person, as far as you can throw them. That's all I am going to say. because this can go further and further on what should be done and what is going on.
User avatar #34539 to #34535 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
>the government did lie about it but its really not that big of a deal
It's always a big deal when the government lies to the people from which it derives its power
>it's for our safety and doesn't invade your privacy at all
So much has already been done to violate our rights in the name of safety, stuff that our constitution specifically forbids like general warrants. This is just one case.
>[Obama] really has nothing to do with it
He has already stated that he knew about it and during his campaign he said he would put an end to this sort of thing yet he hasn't and now he's defending it. It's his job to manage the executive branch so if he had nothing to do with it then he's not doing his job; either way it's a problem.

people are underreacting to this whole thing
User avatar #34541 to #34539 - cycloneclone (06/13/2013) [-]
Im dumb , my bad
User avatar #34542 to #34541 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
just remember a big government is a bad government
User avatar #34543 to #34542 - cycloneclone (06/13/2013) [-]
You know better than me.
User avatar #34561 to #34543 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
Capitalist government is bad government*.
User avatar #34544 to #34543 - pebar (06/13/2013) [-]
It would be wise to learn more about government and politics considering they take half of your paycheck
User avatar #34545 to #34544 - cycloneclone (06/13/2013) [-]
Well I'm not yet really part of the workforce but yeah I know what you're saying.
User avatar #34537 to #34535 - CapnInterwebz (06/13/2013) [-]
Well, I'm not sure about you, but I would classified the unjustified stockpiling of my online doings and phone calls/records a violation of my privacy. Not to mention the fact that PRISM totally bypasses my 4th Amendment rights (protection from unwarranted searches, to be specific). And to top it off, the fact that the government lied to us for years about it and then defended it (Obama did so personally) is an insult -- our government is supposed to be of the people, for the people, and by the people. I don't think keeping secrets of such magnitude from the public fits that model.
User avatar #34536 to #34535 - cycloneclone (06/13/2013) [-]
Oh yeah forgot to add, this is about the NSA scandal
#34796 to #34536 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
Haha, this guy is fantastic.

Pic semi-related
#34533 - Womens Study Major (06/13/2013) [-]
Prove that the severe weather outbreak isn't being caused by a secret weather-control facility.

Protip: You can't.
#34527 - feelythefeel (06/13/2013) [-]
Your thoughts?
#34523 - byposted (06/12/2013) [-]

Erdoğan's chilling warning: 'these protests will be over in 24 hours'

Turkey's prime kike tool defied a growing wave of international criticism on Wednesday and issued a chilling warning to the valiant revolutionaries who have captured central Istanbul for a fortnight, declaring that the demonstrations against his rule would be over within 24 hours.

"Those who attacked my orderlies are amongst the young people in Gezi Park … This is why they need to vacate the premises as soon as possible. Would not it be a shame if the IAF came about? Families should take their children out of there and kiss the Jews' feet," he warned.

"We are waiting for you in Gezi Park. We are here and we are not leaving," responded the Committee for Freedom from the Kikes (CFK).
#34615 to #34523 - Womens Study Major (06/13/2013) [-]
Brb R34
User avatar #34584 to #34523 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
You know those valiant revolutionaries are mostly trade unionists and socialists, right?
User avatar #34625 to #34584 - byposted (06/13/2013) [-]
You know, I don't have Turkey's welfare in mind. On a geopolitical standpoint, the overthrow of Turkey's government will serve to hurt Israeli interests. At that, the socialists and edgy teens will serve as a catalyst for further disorder, perhaps an Islamist seizure of power.
User avatar #34752 to #34625 - oxan (06/14/2013) [-]
A big part of the protest is opposition to the creeping Islamism.
#34482 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
So a smoking ban recently came into affect in Russia, general thoughts and feelings about banning smoking in (open) public spaces, enclosed spaces in the UK tobacco is taxed with a fury, but then again they have socialized health care but I doubt much of that goes into the healthcare system to cover the expenses of treating lung cancer sufferers etc
User avatar #34563 to #34482 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
I dislike smoking, so I'm for it. It's not something we can immediately ban, so it's best to just limit it, and encourage people not to smoke.
User avatar #34487 to #34482 - pebar (06/12/2013) [-]
allowing second hand smoke infringes on people's right to breath
I see no problem with banning it in public places.
As for total ban, I can understand that and that's one of the reason I don't want socialized healthcare: the gov can then tell you what you can't do.
#34489 to #34487 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
I could argue it infringes on peoples right to choose, how about letting building/buisness owners choose, (I know my rent would be slightly higher if I smoked indoors)
I've only ever used the healthcare system here a few times it's mostly "Yeah we can tell what you should do, but it's up to you to actually do it."
User avatar #34500 to #34489 - pebar (06/12/2013) [-]
those aren't public places though, they're private areas where people are allowed to be
#34504 to #34500 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
Brttt, Brain seemed to link public with any available space, I don't see the problem with smoking in let's say an outdoor space that is not enclosed.
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#34553 to #34446 - duudegladiator (06/13/2013) [-]
I love you all. Now go protest the government. Nao.
User avatar #34520 to #34519 - byposted (06/12/2013) [-]
Same result goes for me and undeadwill below.
User avatar #34521 to #34520 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
What the fuck is going on here.....
User avatar #34522 to #34521 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Oh wait that is Pebar.
User avatar #34528 to #34522 - medewu (06/13/2013) [-]
User avatar #34530 to #34529 - medewu (06/13/2013) [-]
I'm a quite shy reserved guy, what can I say.
User avatar #34531 to #34530 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
User avatar #34538 to #34532 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
Maybe later.
User avatar #34461 to #34446 - songemot (06/12/2013) [-]
I got Lincoln too. Coincidentally, I also wear a beard without a mustache like he did, and I own a top hat.
#34465 to #34461 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#34455 to #34446 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
I... I guess?
User avatar #34564 to #34455 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
Top lel.
User avatar #34459 to #34455 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Sweet Christ.
#34468 to #34459 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
Well to me it's not much a surprise.
User avatar #34470 to #34468 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Actually. I wasn't surprised for yours.

I'm wondering if everyone here is more aggressive where I am insanely shy which has caused most of these results.
#34472 to #34470 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm not really aggressive I just have a slight apathy regarding certain immoral things so I have no problem acting them out.
User avatar #34474 to #34472 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]

Apathy is "Meh"
#34477 to #34474 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
No I mean Apathy like example I have no problem stealing if I need to.
#34492 to #34478 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
You ever take the meyer-briggs thing?
User avatar #34493 to #34492 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
A test? Link?
#34515 to #34514 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
Just print screen and then crop the image in paint.
#34505 to #34495 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #34516 to #34505 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]

Introvert(33%) iNtuitive(50%) Feeling(12%) Perceiving(11)%

You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (33%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
You have slight preference of Feeling over Thinking (12%)
You have slight preference of Perceiving over Judging (11%)

User avatar #34518 to #34516 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
I think I do more thinking than emotional stuff I may need to retake the test.
#34506 to #34505 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
Jewishcommie plz.
#34510 to #34506 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#34511 to #34510 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
I think it means judge as in judging a situation.. Less so judging a person, although I do hold individuals to higher standards then their abilities too often.
User avatar #34460 to #34453 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
What is going on with you guys?
User avatar #34473 to #34460 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm not aggressive or anything. I think it has something to do with paranoia. I'm not even that paranoid, so I'm taking the test again and thinking more about it.
User avatar #34475 to #34473 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
I answered paranoid on high
User avatar #34483 to #34475 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
Got Che, then Hitler again. God damn it.
#34486 to #34483 - jewishcommienazi **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #34491 to #34486 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
User avatar #34484 to #34483 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Today is not your day.
User avatar #34485 to #34484 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
I never got any questions about killing. It's randomized.
User avatar #34490 to #34485 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Well it would sound like "would you kill your friends given the chance?"
#34494 to #34490 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
That would be a no.
User avatar #34496 to #34494 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Why not?
#34497 to #34496 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
Probably because I like my friends.

Oh, and something to do with how dying sucks.
#34498 to #34497 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
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But it is murder.
User avatar #34499 to #34498 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
That's kinda my point.
User avatar #34501 to #34499 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Exactly that why you should murder your whole fucking family!
#34502 to #34501 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
Now that I think about it:

Friendship = Magic
Magic = Heresy
Therefore, you should kill your friends.
#34503 to #34502 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
This image has expired
Now you are getting it!

User avatar #34476 to #34475 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
I just found out that the questions are randomized, so that's something.
User avatar #34422 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
DTD saved more people than almost everything else in the world.
The issue came from the US over using it by the gallon while people in poorer countries were smarter about its use and only sprayed their homes thus minimizing its effects.

That or those poor fuckers have been lying to us.
#34434 to #34422 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
I have no idea what this is, so I'm going to assume it's a pesticide / insecticide / herbicide or something of the sorts?
User avatar #34437 to #34434 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]

Kills bugs, like mosquitoes that carry malaria.

Issues with that it weakened the egg shells of birds and the company that made DDT was Monsanto all around bad guy.
#34450 to #34437 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
Yeah I think what you're saying is probably right (After spending 5 minutes source running through wikipedia) in small amounts to reduce malaria seems to have very little negative effects on the environment however when you're using it as part of an agricultural practice it seems to be more dangerous, some countries have swapped off of DDT because mosquito have developed a resistance to it so there's that to bear in mind as well.
#34448 to #34437 - valeriya (06/12/2013) [-]
Now that sounds more familiar, ( Either way I was close ) yeah to be honest it would not surprise me if Monsanto or any other corporate body was lying given the whole no personal liability thing they could pretty much get away with anything, the big one people are fussing about in the EU is neo-nicotiniods or something, because they think it may be harming the bee population, in other words a no win situation if it turns out to be true.
#34421 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
Lesson of the when I feel like it: Hate everything that deserves it with the amount of hate deserved. Only by being questioned can authority remain in worthy hands.
User avatar #34423 to #34421 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Well put.
Actually very well put.
User avatar #34425 to #34424 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Its a very good lesson to live by.
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User avatar #34565 to #34405 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
It's better than coal. I'd prefer solar, though.

Apparently it if we spent a few million every year for ten years Australia would be entirely energy self-sufficient and by 2050 (this was released in 2010 or something) it would have paid for itself. I forget the details.


He might remember.
User avatar #35267 to #34565 - naxo (06/18/2013) [-]
If anyone is interested, I believe this is the article:

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User avatar #34546 to #34405 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Nuclear Power is a great idea. Just a few problems with today's power supply.
Using Liquid Fluoride Thorium (LFT) for a fuel would be the best fuel over modern day Uranium. LFT uses about 99% of it's fuel, in comparison Uranium uses between 40-50% of its possible fuel.
Add on that LFT releases Alpha radiation and is ~10,000x less radioactive in 300 years, and that the average human can hold enough fuel for their entire lives on there back, and we have a great source of fuel.
User avatar #34525 to #34405 - rageisfunny (06/12/2013) [-]
Nuclear power is the best power option at the moment for its affordability and the nearly endless supply of resources required to run it. Its is the next step to take from burning coal and fossil fuels. Nuclear power > any other power.
User avatar #34432 to #34405 - pebar (06/12/2013) [-]
good, even if it's dirty fission
a single dump of radioactive waste would be better than a planet covered in greenhouse gases
it's a whopping 85 degrees outside; I'm burning up
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User avatar #34445 to #34432 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
>85 degrees
>I'm burning up.

I live in Texas
We get to 110 and that is normal.
User avatar #34452 to #34445 - pebar (06/12/2013) [-]
to be fair it's pretty humid
User avatar #34464 to #34452 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Which doesn't help shit.
User avatar #34466 to #34464 - pebar (06/12/2013) [-]
We have -30 winters, even colder if you include wind which can get extreme since we live in the plains.
User avatar #34467 to #34466 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
.....You win this round.
User avatar #34406 to #34405 - eight (06/12/2013) [-]
Yes and no. Yes, because it is a massive 'clean' source of energy that can power millions of homes at a relatively cheap price. No because of radioactive waste and risk of leaks and explosions.

Fossil Fuels: Yes - Plenty of it, good source of energy, somewhat cheap. No - because it is not clean, it isn't that cheap and it will run out eventually.

Solar Energy: Yes - Will not ever run out in our lifetime. With the right setup, you could live off of the grid and actually get paid for the elctricity. No - Expensive, doesn't give much energy like other sources, needs a lot of advancing research to make it truly applicable as a primary source for energy.

Geothermal: Yes - Clean, powerful energy source. No - Not enough 'hotspots', could be dangerous to anyone who lives near such a zone.

User avatar #34524 to #34406 - rageisfunny (06/12/2013) [-]
The danger of leaks and explosions aren't that bad, if you have built the reactor well and its properly prepared. See the Three Mile Island incident.
User avatar #34401 - roliga (06/12/2013) [-]
My views on the George Zimmerman case -

Nothing that is pertinent to Zimmerman's defense in regards to who Trayvon really was is being allowed in the trial (e.g., violent behavior, selling drugs, multiple suspensions from school...)

Zimmerman's guilt has been constantly implied since this happened. It has gone so far that our fairest, the POTUS, has done so on multiple occasions. Anyone remember the line "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon"?

Cellphone records show that Trayvon was at best, a violent gangster... and at worst, a drug-using, illegal gun selling misguided youth.

The unedited 911 call paints a totally different picture than the one that was published on CNN.

He's being set up for an unfair trial.

Now weather this will lead to some full on Rodney King riots or just some isolated chimpouts is another story.
User avatar #34409 to #34401 - eight (06/12/2013) [-]
The fact is, Trayvon could have been a serial killer, before that night, but it would not matter.

All that matters is what happened THAT night. Because this case isn't really about Trayvon, this case is about what Zimmerman did. He took a life. And he needs to be judged accordingly based on the circumstances leading up to that decision.

It doesn't matter what Trayvon did at 12 years of age. It doesn't matter if he smoked pot or was violent at school. What matters is who instigated the altercation and whether or not they had a good reason to do so. All that matters is the facts, not how you feel on a personal level about either person.

We know Zimmerman was following Trayvon against the advice of the police.
We know there was a fight between the two at some point and yelling by both of them. We know Zimmerman killed Trayvon.

Now we have to find the details of what happened during and between these events.
User avatar #34469 to #34409 - roliga (06/12/2013) [-]
But even with all that Florida recognizes the Stand Your Ground law so depending on circumstances that we don't know Zimmerman's killing on Trayvon could be justified
User avatar #34479 to #34469 - eight (06/12/2013) [-]
It could indeed. We just have to have the evidence.
#34386 - feelythefeel (06/12/2013) [-]
So I heard that there's some internet spying going on or something.
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User avatar #34566 to #34365 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]


Good read, that's for sure, but Orwell is loathsome.
#34351 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
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What I hate about peta vegans and the whole meat is murder thing,
They ignore the fact that many animals today are kept from going extinct because there is demand for their meat. Bison today are making a come back today because their meat is very lean which is valued in the current health food trend. Without it there would be no reason to raise these animals.
Some animals today lack the ability to care of themselves (like cows) and would not make it in the wild today. So by eating them we create demand by creating demand we create a reason to help these animals live on.
And finally not eating meat has major draw backs on your health, children who are breast fed from vegan mothers who do not take supplements can kill the child from malnutrition and people who don't take the supplements are increased risk for illnesses related to the lack of certain nutrients.
Rant over.
User avatar #34547 to #34351 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
The main PETA 'animal shelter' actually euthanize 95% of the animals they kept. Almost forcing them to change their name to a euthanasia clinic.
User avatar #34549 to #34548 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
I'll get to ya after I watch that.
User avatar #34550 to #34549 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
Its well worth it.
User avatar #34551 to #34550 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
I actually have a document by START about ALF and ELF. (Not allowed to post it due to the 'sensitive' material in it).
But between 1995-2010 there was 239 Arsons and bombings caused by those two groups. A majority of them do go without group financing, between 66% and 75%.
Pretty much, PETA should be labeled a terrorist organization due to them funding terrorist groups in the US.
User avatar #34552 to #34551 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
Got a link?

And they are insane.
User avatar #34580 to #34552 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Can't. It's public information, but it's been put together and is very clearly labled "for official use only".

And I'm more than familiar with the groups due to my dad prosecuting a few members and my mum supporting both groups.
(Proud story here) I got some girl kicked out of school because she wore an ALF jacket to school. I went down and told the secretaries that a girl is wearing a jacket that was in support of a group that the government recognizes as a terrorist organization, and it all was funny after that.
User avatar #34601 to #34580 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
And sweet story. Fucking awesome.
User avatar #34598 to #34580 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
Want to tell me what it is called?
User avatar #34651 to #34598 - fuckya ONLINE (06/13/2013) [-]
Did some looking and here it is. (Its from the internet so I can post this.)
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User avatar #34693 to #34651 - undeadwill (06/14/2013) [-]
Where is the movie?
User avatar #34699 to #34693 - fuckya ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
User avatar #34700 to #34699 - undeadwill (06/14/2013) [-]
Oh document.
Not documentary...
User avatar #34702 to #34700 - fuckya ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Yea. It's from START. They got a whole bunch of 'official' stuff.
Pretty fun. Read one about Beslan. Pretty good stuff.
User avatar #34733 to #34702 - undeadwill (06/14/2013) [-]

What is START again?
User avatar #34739 to #34733 - fuckya ONLINE (06/14/2013) [-]
Study for Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism.
#34366 to #34351 - tiredofannon (06/12/2013) [-]
Something people need to learn about PETA is that they're not as pro-animal as they seem or are portrayed as. They're against using animals for anything, including companionship (aka pets) and feel that cats and dogs have no purpose and thus should be destroyed. This is why they tricked a lot of animal shelters into handing over animals that they proceeded to kill without ever trying to adopt out.

PETA doesn't want to save the cow since as you state, it has no purpose outside of milk and meat.
#34402 to #34366 - Womens Study Major (06/12/2013) [-]
The actual agenda of PETA isn't "pro-animal" at all. Their agenda is "anti-human."
User avatar #34355 to #34351 - oxan (06/12/2013) [-]
>Animals today ... would not make it in the wild

Isn't that because all cows have been domesticated?

Anyway, the meat industry can definitely be made more humane. What happens to live exports from Australia is utterly disgusting. No living being deserves to be treated that way.
User avatar #34389 to #34355 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
How are they mistreated?
User avatar #34556 to #34389 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]

There's a video, about ten minutes long.
User avatar #34568 to #34556 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
2:00 That isn't a legal slaughter house. The environment of it is dirty and unsanitary. And if this is what you are buying either go without beef or find a new seller other wise you are going to have to deal with it. (or grow your own)

Meat is requires you to kill something else, it will never be 100 or even 50% cruelty free and to do so that still produces something people want to eat. The method for killing the animal differs from culture to culture. Americans Stun the animal and then slit its throat (which is always done while the animal is still alive other wise you have to deal with the issue of blood in the veins.

And they don't check if it dead after they slit it throat because if its not dead yet it soon will be and they have more cattle to deal with.

And these images could only represent a small minority of actual crime. Which is not mentioned how any of these cases exist only that this one did.

Also the level of force used with these animal is understandable when you realize that these animals can crush your skull and will do so. So when an animal gets out people are scared and are trying to not only stop it but make sure it doesn't get out run out and cause a car accident.

Welcome to the top of the food chain.
User avatar #34581 to #34568 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
It's in Egypt, not Australia.

>only represent a small minority of actual crime.
Then why bother to try and defend the practice?

The fact is that this is unnecessarily cruel. I'm not a vegan, or even a vegetarian, but things can be done more humanely. It's the same with other meat, like chicken. Those kept in the cages and pumped full of 'roids... It's simply unethical, and there are ways of keeping it tolerable.
User avatar #34611 to #34581 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
I defend it as well for the reason that if the practice is a small minority then trying to solve may create more issues than it solves.
User avatar #34596 to #34581 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
I knew it was Australia which is what i meant by why the hell would you buy from someone with a spotty record.

Also I checked out the website, its equivalent of PETA (only less violent I'm sure) if they could ban eating meat and animal testing, they would so the group is very bias and aggressive to any practice whether it painless or not. Since I am not familiar with the methods Egypt is using but these devices were chosen by the Australian government so maybe find something simple and effective like what we have here. Electric shock to the back of the neck stuns them then we hang it from its leg and cut the throat. Quick, cheap and humane.

And I'm not against removing much of unnecessary cruelty from the market but the only case here of that is tendon cutting which I'm not quiet sure how to solve in another country and because the less stress an animal faces in death and life the better the meats tastes and the texture improves. Just saying look at the whole picture because while removing cruelty should be a good task for the meat industry it is not possible to remove all cases of cruelty. Just like its impossible to stop all cases of illegal activity in a business. Doctors will sell their drugs for a profit under the table, people will run pyramid schemes and etc.

Really want to stop them don't by beef from Egypt.
User avatar #34597 to #34596 - undeadwill (06/13/2013) [-]
I knew it was Egypt*
User avatar #34357 to #34355 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
How so?
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I'm sorry.jpg
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User avatar #34360 to #34359 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm sorry......
Not really I fucking loved it
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User avatar #34362 to #34361 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm sorry.
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User avatar #34390 to #34363 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm not.
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We're sooooorrrrrrryyy~
User avatar #34297 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Two issues

What is the best way to deal with the issues with hunger internationally?

And with issues of obesity at home.
User avatar #34396 to #34297 - akamrhood (06/12/2013) [-]
For the international hunger there isnt much we can do, we can try to drown these people in food but their government will just hold it. They are all like, you bitches better be doing what I say or you're not getting dis food. So it would have to be a global effort to end corruption in under developed nations so that we can easily asnd safely get food to those that need it. We mostly just need to educate them how to farm properly.

When it comes to obesity at home. I think we are basiclly fucked. You can feed a family of four for like $10 at mcdonalds and everyone will be full. But you go to buy and apple and it costs about $5 for 5 apples. Also its the parents responsiblity to instill in to their children proper eating habits. We are on this self fulling circle of bad parenting leading to bad decisions leading to bad habits. It could either be a government backed program to get the word out or a fucking walk up call from the back of some persons hand to the parents to get them to teach their kids the correct way to stay healthy.
User avatar #34399 to #34396 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
Excellent points, here are a few videos that are useful for describing

Organic food: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ET7Xv2m9k
Obesity: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RFQWCLi9ZE
Fast food: www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Dy-Mqc038
Worth the watch.
#34391 to #34297 - repostsrepost (06/12/2013) [-]
Hunger Internationally? Nothing we can do about that, we can throw as much money as we want at these country it'll probably go to build a new palace.

Obesity is a problem we can work with individually and with our families and communities. I found through mine and my families experiences that eating organic when possible drastically improves health and with it, your everyday behavior too. A lot of these chemicals they put in foods really mess with your metabolism and make it so much easier to gain fat. At the grocery store, if I see an ingredient that I can't pronounce or I wouldn't use in my kitchen, I won't buy it. I'm not saying we should ban or limit these things, I'm just saying it's much better as a personal choice. I'm not for banning GMO, because that will likely cause the starvation of people who can't afford to eat healthier.
#34395 to #34392 - repostsrepost (06/12/2013) [-]
Oh god I hate hippies. I'm worried about my own health, I could really give to fucks about nature.
User avatar #34397 to #34395 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
They really are pretty fucked up.
#34398 to #34397 - repostsrepost (06/12/2013) [-]
I just want to get a giant drill and just run throw a crowd of themdo you get it
#34400 to #34398 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
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We can rebuild it.
We had a technology.

Did you like the video?
#34403 to #34400 - repostsrepost (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm put in an awkward position where organic food has visibly made my family and me a lot healthier, but agreeing with hippies makes me sick. I love sciency videos made by people with a sense of humor though. All that being close to nature stuff is bullshit as they said. But I see a lot of evidence that organic is healthier. In my own family I see a bunch of intolerances and food problems pop up, that disappear as soon as they switch to organic foods. I've got to look up more videos from these guys though.
User avatar #34404 to #34403 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
What about the other one?
User avatar #34306 to #34297 - oxan (06/12/2013) [-]
Would you be surprised if I answered this with the abolition of capitalism?
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User avatar #34313 to #34306 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
After all capitalism is creating new forms of food that can survive harsher climates and etc.
While the communist approach is to throw bodies and resources at an issue till its solved.
User avatar #34324 to #34313 - oxan (06/12/2013) [-]
Fatty foods that cause obesity are hardly something to be praised.

MEANWHILE IN MAO'S CHINESE SOCIALIST HELLHOLE: the production of foodstuffs increased by over like 100% after the CPC took power. And life expectancy doubled, like in the USSR, during collectivisation and industrialisation.
#34393 to #34324 - repostsrepost (06/12/2013) [-]
What if I told you that the settlements in early America were akin to communism?

The Jamestown Settlement had no private property. The crops, the land, and even the children were considered property of the community. The food was distributed equitably among the community. So everyone was equal. There was just one problem. Everyone kept dying. The average lifespan for a settler was 2 years. Since there was no profit incentive, farmers only grew what they had to, and since they were entitled to a certain amount of food anyway, there wasn't an incentive to work as hard. The Governor, then allowed settlers to keep their own plot of lands. With it, they grew what the needed for their family, and also now that they could profit, they started growing tobacco. Tobacco became a booming industry, population exploded exponentially over the next century and the rest, is history.

This is what in capitalism we call The Tragedy of the Commons. Without private property, people will abuse the public goods.
User avatar #34557 to #34393 - oxan (06/13/2013) [-]
Fascinating story, repost. It might be relevant if it wasn't for the fact that it seems like a simple Utopian Socialist experiment, which is different from Marxism.
User avatar #34327 to #34324 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
GMO's and improved farming techniques that have prove success to grow where simple man power and funding fail.

Why you thought my talking point was fatty food is beyond me.
User avatar #34335 to #34327 - oxan (06/12/2013) [-]
Probably because I'm exhausted from exams.
User avatar #34337 to #34335 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]
I haven't slept it 7:00 here.
User avatar #34309 to #34306 - undeadwill (06/12/2013) [-]

But would you surprised if I thought communism would not work to solve world hunger?
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