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#97048 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
da fuck is a snus?
#97096 to #97048 - mixednuts
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(10/27/2015) [-]
It's also known as "chewing tobacco", "skoal", "dip", or just "chew", in America and Canada. I don't see why everyone thinks it's only available in Sweden. Hell, I had been under the impression that it came from Denmark, since brands like "Copenhagen" are so popular here.
#97079 to #97048 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
shit that makes your teeth uglier than the brits
#97069 to #97048 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Something nonswedes cannot buy since you're not living in a truly free country like sweden.
#97065 to #97048 - minibeep
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(10/27/2015) [-]
its tobacco that you put under your lips
#97050 to #97048 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
You can get a lot of it in Sweden
#97051 to #97050 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
what is it exactly?

i wont google that. tell me first
#97052 to #97051 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Its bagged tobacco you put under your lip

It comes in a lot of brands and flavours
#97053 to #97052 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
aha. more waste of resources on something pretty useless
#97068 to #97053 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Oh my god. How uneducated can you be?
#97066 to #97053 - minibeep
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(10/27/2015) [-]
only some types of it is bagged
#97054 to #97053 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Ah another muslim telling us what we should and shouldn't do
#97055 to #97054 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
everyone tells what should and shouldnt we do
#97056 to #97055 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I thought that was mostly America... oh well I guess Russias in on it too now
#97057 to #97056 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
you are in it too :^D
#97058 to #97057 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
What did I do?
#97059 to #97058 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
should i let a donkey rape your ass?
#97060 to #97059 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
That's your culture not mine
#97061 to #97060 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
ehem

go talk to the rag heads in Egypt and not me :I
#97062 to #97061 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Dunno
Seems like the same thing to me
#97063 to #97062 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
EWWWWWWWWWWWWW

EWWWWWWWWWWWW

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

dont compare E-gypsy to all the world. they are the mix of hilly billys, niggers, drank slavs and broken tooth britbong who act like a gypsy
#97093 to #97063 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
you'll always be a turk
#97064 to #97063 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Alright then
#97049 to #97041 - shekelnator
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(10/27/2015) [-]
tbh the saudi twats gonna get burned sooner or later. their royal throne wont last longer.
#97043 to #97041 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I twat as Jihad Mughniyeh (shahid by the shahada).
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#97035 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Why do people think that Club for Growth jackholes are "grassroots conservatives"?
#97029 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Fascism is literally parental narcissism on a national stage.
#97094 to #97029 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Fascism is literally just nationalist corporatism.
#97023 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
#97030 to #97023 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Is this some retarded australian humor im supposed to get or...? Do people without assburgers syndome find this funny or is it some kind of an aspie meme im supposed to get or...?

I'd prefer if you never posted here again since this is the politics board not some low quality meme shitpostung board. Please fuck off?
#97036 to #97030 - anon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
try harder
#97037 to #97036 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I didnt try anything...? All i did was giving my opinions on why shitty outdated memes should'nt be used in a political debate, or any memes at all. Your comment was retarded and because i didnt find it humorus im trolling?
#97016 - pebar
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(10/27/2015) [-]
www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/23/rep-introduces-hearing-protection-act-steamline-purchase-firearm-suppressors/

please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
#97014 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I just wanted to say, after all the dindu nuffin movements and riots, I have so much respect for American cops. If anything I want to militarize them more now.
#97031 to #97014 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Faggot. You have guns in the 'murica to defend yourself from angry black people but at the same time the majority of ameriburgers are whining their asses off because the police has stronger and bigger weapons them the average joe.
#97013 - pebar
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(10/27/2015) [-]
tomorrow in my labor economics class, the whole class time is dedicated to discussing the minimum wage
#97038 to #97013 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Get a job.
#97045 to #97038 - pebar
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I have one
#97046 to #97045 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Lol fucking wage slave.
#97047 to #97046 - pebar
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(10/27/2015) [-]
butthurt commie
go lobby government for free handouts
#97015 to #97013 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Unload on these Niggas Kevin

UN-LOAD ON THESE NIGGAS KEVIN

UNLOAD
#96980 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Donald Duck - In Der Fuhrer's Face [HQ] ITT: Funny propaganda
#97032 to #96980 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Those crook nosed fucking clawbearing fucking vermin rats to kikes has blocked that clip in my country. Gotta squeeze every last shekel from 90 year old disney clips. Greedy fucking jewish scum. Better off dead.
#97008 to #96980 - mixednuts
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(10/27/2015) [-]
It's funny, because farts.
#97007 to #96980 - klowserpok
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(10/27/2015) [-]
#96994 to #96980 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
This video contains content from Disney (✡), who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
#96995 to #96994 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Damn
Your country sucks
#96996 to #96995 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
That's America, which puzzles me.

This is the dolan duck anti-ghnatzi, pro-kike propaganda, right?
#96997 to #96996 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Yup
It's called "der fuehrer's face" in case you want to go around the block
#96998 to #96997 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Jewtube doesn't block the title too lmoa

I guess even past propaganda has a purpose in profits.

I would post the picture modifying the line to "this video has been blocked due to kike asspain," but that doesn't even apply and I don't have access to it anyway.

It's near the end of this touching video: You need to login to view this link
#97003 to #96998 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
oh, that video is my contribution to propaganda itt, whoozy.
#97004 to #97003 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Appreciate it
#97006 to #97004 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
#97002 to #96998 - byposted
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#96999 to #96998 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
err actually it is but it isn't.
#97000 to #96999 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
They couldn't block that video in finlan because it has some sort of dolan moe thing going on.
#97009 to #97000 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
enlightenednatzie pls explain
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#96984 to #96980 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
>this is the first time you've seen this
>almost 2016
#96987 to #96984 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
>Assumes this is the first time I've seen this
>Complains that I post this in 2015
>Still posts Tom Cruise laughing
>Still using meme arrows

Try harder lulz
#96989 to #96987 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Posting this is equivalent to posting a rage face today. It's just... cringy.
#96991 to #96989 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Every post you make are cringy lulz   
I don't really mind if I make a couple
Every post you make are cringy lulz
I don't really mind if I make a couple
#96992 to #96991 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I'm so glad you aren't in the skype group.
#96993 to #96992 - whoozy
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I'm very glad I declined that invitation as well.
Have a nice day
#96960 - lulzfororegon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Does anyone here still support banning assault rifles? Whether fully automatic or semi.

Europeans not welcome.
#97010 to #96960 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Those rifles are needed to resist the state. Idgaf how PoC use them to defend drug turf tbh. So these statistics don't influence me one way or another because they presuppose that it all about death, but I will stress that this death mainly occurs within demographics nobody cares about to begin with - even "leftists" perceive them just as political points usually.

Funneh that the Jews have mighty influence both in anti-gun lobbying and gun manufacturing/selling in the US. The latter derives from their position on the black market prolly, where Jewish mobs - commonly called "Russian mafia" men - have all the hardware one could ever want :^)
#97012 to #97010 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Jewish mobs mobsters
#97011 to #97010 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
>presupposes that it is all about death

civilian/noncombatant death tbh
#96977 to #96960 - mixednuts
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I've never been in favor of banning anything, I'm for liscencing.

Also that image is incredibly retarded. Did you take it from a crotchety old woman's Facebook feed?
#96981 to #96977 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
from /pol/ actually, but I think the message is clear whether the numbers are accurate or not. And I think you know that but choose to ignore it.
#97005 to #96981 - mixednuts
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(10/27/2015) [-]
According to a CDC WISQARS search, medical malpractice accounted for 2,170 deaths in 2011 in America. So that figure is highly inflated. (It also has nothing at all to do with Obamacare.)

www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

The static for the rifle related murders is accurate though. But the overall number of murders carried out with a firearm is 8,583 with handguns used in 6,220. So yes an "assault rifles" ban would be ineffective.

It also shouldn't be overlooked that overall firearms related murders have been in decline (going from 10,129 in 2007 to 8,583 2011) so availability isn't the only factor in these murders. But that doesn't make the message in the picture any less asinine, other causes of death don't make rifle deaths negatable.
#97125 to #97005 - lulzformigrants
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Again, the point behind the picture is not the accuracy of the numbers but the message itself. I don't care about the numbers, the message itself still remains which I assume you agree with and understand.

I'm glad you aren't authoritarian/stupid enough to believe in an "assault rifle" ban as a person who identifies as a "liberal".
#97129 to #97125 - mixednuts
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I'm not so much in favor of gun control. I'm more irritated at how the NRA and the like have twisted the debate. Aside from that, it's not even a very important issue to me.
#97132 to #97129 - lulzformigrants
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I respect that opinion.
#96974 to #96960 - klowserpok
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Nope
#96963 to #96960 - pebar
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(10/26/2015) [-]
assault rifles are already ban, for the most part

do you mean so-called "assault weapons"?
#96965 to #96963 - lulzfororegon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Yes, I always forget that "assault rifles" generally refer to fully automatic rifles, though the only difference is that the government disables the feature for modern rifles, they still look like "assault rifles".

And isn't there a state or two where you can buy fully automatic rifles without a special permit that's hard to get?
#96968 to #96965 - pebar
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(10/26/2015) [-]
the national firearms act, and its amendment in the 80s, made it illegeal to buy modern full-auto guns manufacture after 1986 (it hink that's the year) and it is a federal restriction

technically states have no obligation to enforce federal laws, (federal law enforcement is the federal government's job) so there may be a few states were local police won't bother you but if the ATF catches you, you'll still get in trouble

but that's just my guess
#96971 to #96968 - lulzfororegon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
oh ok thanks.
#96970 to #96968 - pebar
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(10/26/2015) [-]
ULTIMATE AR-15 MELTDOWN! >>#96965, you can get old machine guns and old m16 lowers that work with modern-made AR-15 uppers with the right bolt carrier groups
#96930 - youregaylol
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(10/26/2015) [-]
The board hasn't been this cancerous in a while.

What happened exactly.
#96953 to #96930 - lulzfororegon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Some butthurt leftist keeps shitposting, basically the syrianassassin of this board if you will.

I say we ignore him, pls. drastronomy pls.
#97033 to #96953 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
I am indulged to know who this 'syrianassassin' of this board is, may you share his username with me so i can engage him in political discusioons about how im right and he is wrong?
#96939 to #96930 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Well, for the first, you are the one posting avatar videos and for the second, dont use the word ''cancer'' as an insult since some users here can be offended by that because a relative of them have had it.
#96917 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
>there are people on this board who doesnt drink alcohol, coffee or use tobacco
#96902 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Had some thoughts about the importance of language recently.
Language, it seems, can be used as a tool to control the masses. Some words can be affiliated with certain ideas, therefore demonizing the idea and the original sentiment thereof.
For instance: The word "nationalism", among normies, envokes a feeling of spite towards facist regimes, the nazis, etc. The word "patriotism", however, implies pride in ones collective, and for many will give feelings of family-relations due to the connotation with regards to 4th of july or whatever national holiday one celebrates.

These two words have the same denotation, yet differentiating the meaning can be the difference between winning the debate and being accused of hate-speech.

Why?
Because the social-democratic majority, or really, the social democratic governments and media, have put one of these words (nationalism) in mostly negative contexts. This may be due to their political alignment, or more likely, that they want to differentiate between good pride (pride in ones own country) and bad pride (others having pride in their country).

So this got me thinking - cannot one theoretically "demonize" an entire ideology by simply putting it in negative contexts, and giving it negative connotations? If so, does a single entity have such control, or does the combined power of a people?

#96961 to #96902 - byposted
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I am happy to have provoked your thoughts because you're a good thinker.

It is good that you made this thread because I meant to expand on the idea behind nationalism in your reply to me, which you conveniently stress here. I discarded my own reply because it seemed tangential, but it obviously is not because we are both inclined there. So, I go:

The road goes both ways on nationalism. As "nationalists," we should be more concerned with the inbound route.

For example: I do not prefer "patriotism" to "nationalism" because I associate it with the negative, inverse qualities of a "neonazi" on the Right. Many people do; you may have come across the term "patriotard."

It conjures up Texans demonstrating against "the threat of Sharia" in a county which is overwhelmingly Chicano and traditionally Catholic. something I've posted about here

Whereas a German "neonazi" might actually sponsor the idea that our resident avatarfagging anon promoted - a German reclamation of Konigsburg - a Polish "patriot" calls for increased defenses against Russia, when the Russian Federation, as distinct from the former Soviet Union, has nothing to even covet in homogenous state (unlike the Baltic states).

There is love for the country involved, i.e. patriotism, but it is misguided, hence patriotarded. I usually use the Germanic "nation" instead of the French "country" for this reason, but in this case the inverse.

Regarding Polish "patriots," they effectively serve US policy, which has supplanted the Soviet's as the primary enemy of European nationalism. Perhaps not overtly in the particular case of Poland, but don't Poles pride themselves as being "Europe's defenders?" Well, lead! Is "Islam" the force to be reckoned with in the Syrian "migrant crisis," or US policy in Syria, for instance? I hate to see my fatherland used and abused in its independence, much like during the inter-war period. It even was part of the first US Coalition in Irak!

As a Pole, I like to stress the distinction between what steered the Soviet Union and what steers Russia. Not who, because the political class does not change without a certain form of revolution (a la 1917) - the USSR withered with practically no defenders, therefore Putin can have a history in KGB and become president; indeed, many had a history there, but did not face retribution, and still staff many administrations, usually analogues to the ones they descended from (e.g. KGB to FSB).

The essential question you left unasked is how to obtain the leverage in language.

It will not be done by caving or defining oneself by the enemy.

For example, in American presidential politics, Trump is currently weighed poorly against the opposing "Leftist" candidates in a general election, when compared to Bush and Rubio. Nevertheless, there is more propaganda value in a prolonged, past-the-primaries Trump campaign conductive to the "Right" than there would ever be political accomplishments in an entire establishment Republican presidential term. In fact, the latter would even be harmful, if you consider the Congress and certain internationalist interests embedded there, and how they would synch with the executive branch.

Some say "Trump isn't a conservative." I recently scoffed at that: "whatever that means anymore..."

I overread that you consider yourself a "national conservative." Is this an official faction where you live? Because beside the lesser sense of "conserving the nation," "conservative" is an entirely antiquated political designation. I've said this before: What are you even conserving? The present state of decay, futility? That's to admit that "conservatives" really are just the "leftists of 15 years ago."

You are a sort of proactive reactionary, if such a thing is not contradictory. It isn't. "Reactionary" does not denote monarchy (those NRx spergs) anymore than "conservative" does - because both meant "monarchy" during the French Revolution.
#96969 to #96961 - lulzfororegon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
byposted I want to bask in your wisdom. I used to identify as a national conservative but you've convinced me that I am not.

What should I identify myself as if I hold similar views to drastronomy and what you say?
#96982 to #96969 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
oh, I can also steer you on the anti-Russian thing you have going btw

I wrote about Poles, but this applies to you as well. So stop that.
#96973 to #96969 - byposted
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Fortunately, I'm young and my knowledge and writing ability will only expand. Many of my posts may seem like spergs, but so it is with people who haven't mastered writing in complicated matters and/or are unstimulated "and" because if you're well-read, you're obviously stimulated but also pick up on prose

Did you consider yourself a "national conservative" in imitation of drastronomy? I may have confused people. I wrote in the second part of my post that I would be a "national socialist" if honest, but much of this whole linguistic warfare concept is finding something new to call yourself - the national socialists were unfortunately humiliated in WWII and are humiliated today accordingly.

We are all nationalists. I think it is absurd, however, for a Western one to think like a Right-Libertarian about the "virtue of the market." They (libertarians) do so because they see nothing to appreciate in society proper, I think it is fair to say.

We, however, appreciate our race, our people, and our civilization, and one has to be blind not to notice how unrestrained market forces serve to further the decline of what we love. I can compare to nature - how industry wrecks it, and would do so at a higher level if not for environmental controls. I draw a wider import from this on state power - our vanguard must be socialistic.

This is where I can guide you and perhaps drastronomy - away from normie modes of thinking, whereby an environmentalist is a Green Party supporter and a cuckservative is also Kochservative. Beyond that, you tell me. These are just words - the ideas really matter. I'm not developed enough philosophically to propose any with a deeper meaning. But they are necessary in crafting a grand movement, which the West needs to save itself. I think I made a good case that "conservative" will not be among them.
#96978 to #96973 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
>I think I made a good case that "conservative" will not be among them.

Oh, which is where I diverge from the "cuckservative" thing. Everybody who is "conservative" is a "cuckservative" imo. SYNONYMS

Kind of like "RINO." There are no greater Republicans than McCain, his wife Lindsay, and Rubio or Bush. This "insurgent" concepts needs to be taken to the next level whereby we consider ourselves the true RINOS - this would really rustle the establishment imo
#96979 to #96978 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
concepts concept
#96975 to #96973 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
On my first paragraph, there is also the consideration of intelligence. I'm glad to be part of the elect, at least in verbal communication, without which being "well read" doesn't much matter.

Of course, I attribute it to heredity. But this wasn't always with me, which might I think interest feelythefeel who I believe I had a convo with a while ago - before his turn to the "Right" like Oxan (who I picked up posting on /pol/ recently as anon, asking "how d'ya figure that a communist becomes a monarchist") about his trials in the abstractions of computer programming. Could've confused this too though.
#96983 to #96975 - lulzfororegon
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Wait, oxan is a monarchist now? I know he turned something but it was so long ago I forgot. And how did you even find out it was him on /pol/?
#96986 to #96983 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
and I knew he was going places when he asked me about White Nationalism on this board after a long leave. He was thinking, though he didn't notice it.

I answered in my posts here what I couldn't then - White Nationalism as an American phenomenon, and its necessary applications in Europe. This should be symbolized with the Celtic Cross as used by both American WNs and Nationalists in Europe imo
#96990 to #96986 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
The Celtic Cross compromises Christianity with furfag paganism doesn't it lmoa

it's a good secular symbol as I said, but also here
#96988 to #96986 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
>He was thinking, though he didn't notice it

in hindsight
#96985 to #96983 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Yes, he's a monarchist. While I didn't confirm, it was pretty obvious it was Oxan. When he next logs in, if ever, he'll see that I spotted him (or that he has philosophical company!).
#96976 to #96975 - byposted
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(10/27/2015) [-]
forgot a dash dere
#96964 to #96961 - byposted
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(10/26/2015) [-]
>first US Coalition in Irak!

err second, considering the Gulf War
#96962 to #96961 - byposted
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(10/26/2015) [-]
But talk about connotations! "Reactionary?" As I said on my post on "terrorism," though, we can be above it here. If I were irl, I would be proud "National Socialist" tbh.

You and I have referenced "normies." I have on multiple occasions made reference to the so-called "Reagan Revolution," which took in many American, White bourgeois normalfags under the term "conservative."

"Conservative" does have a positive connotation for people on the "Right," naturally. But what it did solve in this great case? Reagan was elected when the American "Right" still had the muscle, but its only result was to relax those tendons when their intervention was needed the most.

After Trump, it will all be over, here. Learn from the mistakes of American "White Nationalism." There was/is more to it than DailySperger, and its basic tenet of European racial unity is an essential application on the mother continent, at least in cooperation between nationalist movements.
#96967 to #96962 - byposted
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Learn from the mistakes failings
#96966 to #96962 - byposted
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(10/26/2015) [-]
this is my second part (2/2), drastronomy.
#96944 to #96902 - akkere ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I think it depends on what the individual relates terms and definitions to, and how much they value literal interpretation over figurative. Most of what you describe though is part of the central basis to political soundbytes, or the regurgitation of key phrases that are built off of dumbed down terms (think buzzwords; patriot and fascist for instance) to spread political ideas without having to communicate the logical constraints or key facts behind them. Most forms of popular media (across the whole political spectrum) use the method of soundbytes, whether it's televised or broadcasted on the radio, because it's very simple yet effective to build a political soundbyte that gets repeated over and over again by those that are hooked onto it.

Another reason why it's important to get as many sources on stories as possible. A repeated phrase across most articles might not catch notice, but when you isolate it against a multitude of other sources that have opposing biases, you'll not only see the soundbytes, or demonizing phrases, but you'll also detect a pattern in issue manipulation for that general series of articles.
#96945 to #96944 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Hence why i think it is strange few have picked up on this.

The media has such massive power, in the hands of so few. Yet, since it is still considered "entertainment", no one cares, and believe the shit thats spewed out regardless. The cecil the lion bullshit, the trump hating bandwagon, the bernie circlejerking bandwagon, the mufuggen raysis flag bandwagon, the black lives matter movement...they all owe their existance to media. Profit may be the motive, as always, yet i doubt such higher-ups are so naive to imply their actions do not matter. This may sound paranoid as fuck, but perhaps the media are forwarding political sentiments that better suit their own (or the sitting governments) interest?
#96972 to #96945 - akkere ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
The simple explanation to why few pick up on stuff like this and fall victim to political bandwagons is people are too desperate to throw their trust into a single tempting individual. A group will see that one political candidate claims to have his policies completely contradictory to the other known problematic candidates and - despite having no idea whether or not their actions and legislation truly fold into the beliefs, or if they even wrote the details of the policy to begin with - throw their coin to the individual with the convincing promises. Even when convinced about the possibility that their magical man isn't all that magical, they'll immediately open their arms to the next person that claims to be contradictory to the problematic norm, because it's difficult to maintain the kind of vigil necessary to analyze every statement from a wide information spectrum of sources.

As to whether or not the media forwards political sentiments of their own, it's difficult to assess. It's best not to think of the media as a single consolidated force but rather think of it as a breakdown of multiple entities with different motives that may run tangent to one another from time to time. You have massive entities that are conglomerates of their own; parent companies that foster different agencies of direct and indirect information supply, all of which forward the sentiment of an overwhelming media. Then you have smaller media outlets that linger in key fields; local radio shows, news sites independent to the major cable networks, etc. These forms of media are all companies; businesses that stand to make a profit, and generally news' profits come from advertising contracts given by a number of other companies; politically-connected corporations, or political parties are a major driving force. These media outlets will be granted a financial conduit in exchange for projecting the news a certain angle. Ergo, your observation of media outlets forwarding political sentiment for their own gain isn't farfetched in the slightest; it's essentially the way all profit-motivated organizations in information work.
#96915 to #96902 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
red the book ''1984'' and by the way, the socialdemocrats aka communists hate the ideah of nationalism beause they aim to conquer the world with socialism like the power hungry whore they are. Social democrats hates the ideah of induvidualism and independent thoughts or independent groups of people who wanna keep to their own.
#96923 to #96915 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I've read 1984. Bretty good, but relates more to the idea of censorship than to the power behind the words themselves.

And i doubt a such black and white worldview is very accurate. There is no absolute evil or absolute good in the world.
#96934 to #96923 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
There is an absolute evil thought, its called social democracy, concealed communism if you want.
#96946 to #96934 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
That is not absolute. Suggesting otherwise is naive.
#96895 - redandgreen
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Happy Hippie Presents: Don't Dream It's Over (Performed by Miley Cyrus & Ariana Grande)


For drastronomy and enlightednatzie

I hope you make up soon
#96954 to #96895 - lulzfororegon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I cannot believe you've managed to find a way for me to hate you more.
#96957 to #96954 - redandgreen
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(10/26/2015) [-]
It's a joke but OK.
#96908 to #96895 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Wow... So you're using a shitty music video im not gonna look at as a political debate instrument... Its worse than memeposting tbh
#96958 to #96908 - redandgreen
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I'm using a really good music video to have some fun.
#96897 to #96895 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
We did

Just hope he stops shitposting
#96898 to #96897 - redandgreen
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(10/26/2015) [-]
He'll die of snus poisoning soon anyway.
#96909 to #96898 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
How can you be so insensetive? I nearly just died of a snus overdoze you fucking shithead! You are worse than hitler tbh
#96956 to #96909 - redandgreen
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Pls die more next time.
#97028 to #96956 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Butthurt lib'rul
#96899 to #96898 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Do people even have snus outside of scandinavia?

I honestly would rather have people smoking. At least with smokers they can get the fuck out of the way when they soil themselves with tobacco. and die of cancer earlier
#96910 to #96899 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
You are such a wiener. Dooer's right there grandma. Leave.
#96900 to #96899 - redandgreen
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I don't if they do, I've never seen it though. I dislike smoking because it makes everything smell. Vaping is better..
#96901 to #96900 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
final solution: don't use pleasure inducing substances recreationally.
#96903 to #96901 - anon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I don't vape, smoke or snus or whatever. The way you say it though you could mean coffee or alcohol though, right? I think I'll keep using those
#96904 to #96903 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Without ever having gotten drunk or drunk coffee, i may be wrong...but:
Does coffee not just wake you up a little? And alchohol, in moderation, only make you dizzy, if even that?
#96911 to #96904 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Never realised that the people on this board have never had fun. I guess thats the reason you're o angry and blame the jews for every problem you have encountered. Coffee makes me feel like human, i cant go a day without it because i get huge headaches and alcohol, well it makes it easier to socialize with other people.

Good, you're such a wiener.
#96912 to #96911 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Dont blame the jews. Thats schnitzels job.

And i am entirely happy, undependent on such frivolities.
#96913 to #96912 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
You want to get happier? Drink alcohol, only works if you're with friends thought because its boring as fuck and kinda sad to drink alone.
#96914 to #96913 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I do not want to get happier. Especially not when it is derived from a neurotoxin. I prefer to find joys in other mediums (such as getting pussy, a concept i have no doubt you are unfamilliar with), as opposed to being a hedonist.
#96916 to #96914 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
How do you get pussy without alcohol? Your moms or did your mom arrange a marriage with your cousin. Get out of that biblecamp bro, you sound like a total wiener to me.
#96921 to #96916 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I think it says more about you than it does about me that you need women to be drunk of their ass to like you, while they like me while still sober.

Call me a wiener if you wish, but i am fairly sure my life is far more enjoyable considering i do not need to drown myself in chemicals to handle it .

You will grow out of that phase within a few years anyway...hopefully.
#96933 to #96921 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Yeah but no. A life without ''chemical substances'' that your nerdy ass calls it isnt a life a all. Its a living prison. I didnt use any chemical substances 'til i turned 18 and man it sucked horseshit. Since you're the one complaining about users that have a different opinion than you on most topics at an online imageboard i fail to see how i am the loser here. Without me this board is nothing but a circlejerk where everybody pat eachocher on the back and that become very dull and meaningless.

I bring diversity and meaning to this board since you stubborn fucks seem to need it. And i refuse to take anyone seriously if they refer to liqur as ''chemical substance'', like you're trying to sound smart or anything. Nerd.

And by the way, the reason i dont have sex all the time is that every girl that have hitted on me (a lot) has either had a boyfriend or are just really ugly.
#96949 to #96933 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I refer to it as a chemical substance to point out what it really is. It is not apple juice for fucks sake. It is literal poison. If those words are too big for you, i will gladly refer to it as baddy baddy satan water instead.

You must really be pathetic if your only joys are found in consumption. Think about that a bit. Your life centres itself around poison, and distancing yourself from reality. Does that not make you sick? Does it not make you want to do something great? It sure does for me, although i avoided the drinking alltogether and stipped straight to this step.

I am not sure you have noticed, but this is an image board. People are meant to argue here - or as you put it, "complain about users that have a different opinion than you". Then you proceed to say you are fixing the circlejerk, while at the same time scolding me for engaging in discussion.

And stop deluding yourself. The reason you dont have sex is that the only ones you meet are drunk ones who most likely are not awake when you fuck them. And i think there is a reason only ugly ones hit on you. I think it may have to do with that disgusting shit you put in your mouth.
#96906 to #96904 - anon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Well, you should try them. Coffee gives me a buzz and alcohol kind of softens the edges on stuff in moderation.
#96887 - anon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Well I had to write 3 mini essays for a mid-term in my law class (actually just a sjw shit-show like ive shown before).

One of the questions was why is there a growing relationship between security and migration control, I pretty much dropped the redpill insteas of the typical "becuz muh wacism" bs that the proff probably wanted. Hope it works out well and I didn't hurt his wittle muslim feelings.

PIC RELATED: Lecture book
#96885 - anon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Prove that left wing and right wing aren't just 2 sides of the same coin
#96894 to #96885 - drastronomy
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(10/26/2015) [-]
Do i have to prove up and down is not the same direction too?
#96888 to #96885 - anon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
"Prove that red and blue really aren't just the same colors"

What.
#96884 - feelythefeel
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(10/26/2015) [-]
/politics/96331#96331

The debate I linked to is over (At least, it's over for me). It was a long one. Who do you think won?
#96890 to #96884 - anon
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(10/26/2015) [-]
I'm up for ganging up on Shiny and verbally abusing him but do you really need us on a leesh to go back to old discussions and write arguments for you?
-lulz
#97018 to #96890 - feelythefeel
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(10/27/2015) [-]
Just thought somebody might have been interested in how it turned out.
#96866 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
How hard is it to get a girlfriend in your countries? I get friendzoned all the time
#96881 to #96866 - feelythefeel
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(10/26/2015) [-]
If you're a visible minority, and you live in a country where the locals are starting to resent said minority, you should probably consider leaving.


"Getting tail" being the least of your many reasons.
#96907 to #96881 - enlightednatzie ONLINE
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(10/26/2015) [-]
And here we begon with the racism... Friendzoning doesnt just apply to minorities, toghether we must fight this. Those women has obviusly being damaged by a brain desease known as ''femenism'' which we men must defeat.