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#68180 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
what is the solution to eliminate the dirty liberals and the nasty rodent kikes?
#68236 to #68180 - byposted (08/19/2014) [-]
Armed insurrection, of course.
#68234 to #68180 - pebar (08/18/2014) [-]
Start a circlejerk?
User avatar #68231 to #68180 - feelythefeel (08/18/2014) [-]
I don't know, maybe try spamming. That usually does it.
User avatar #68225 to #68180 - akkere ONLINE (08/18/2014) [-]
Blast them with Ben Garrison edits and Iron Pill comics?
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User avatar #68187 to #68180 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
We should brutally murder them on a whim. That'll teach them to be savages.
#68189 to #68187 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
there was some discussion went with some libfag here.

so we went into zoophilia problems in USA (because they allowed it in 10+ states) and he said it is not their own problem so they allows it.

no shit, zoophilia is not a problem????????

then i asked him: give us a reason why we should not kill you or nail you in the cross or burn you alive.

he never answered, pathetic filth
User avatar #68190 to #68189 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Who cares if people fuck animals? It's not like they'll breed.
#68196 to #68190 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
10/10 about to vomit
User avatar #68199 to #68196 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
I said "who cares", not that it wasn't gross.
#68203 to #68199 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
The fact that you said "who cares" is the disgusting part.
User avatar #68204 to #68203 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Society has countless better things to do that go on a witch hunt against everyone who has ever done something stupid and nasty.
#68205 to #68204 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
There is nothing more important to society than preserving the standards of said society, without standards society is meaningless.
User avatar #68207 to #68205 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Preserving society isn't the most delusional concept in the history of politics, but it's sure up there in the top ten.
#68209 to #68207 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
lol, now I know that you're making stuff up as you go along, literally every nation or ideology actively attempts to preserve their society because society is civility, and some people want to preserve that.
User avatar #68211 to #68209 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
No, they don't. Preservation requires preventing change and growth. This is pretty bad for macroeconomics.
#68213 to #68211 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
Preservation is preserving what you hold dear, growth is encouraged, accepting people fucking horses is not growth, that's the opposite of growth.
User avatar #68215 to #68213 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
If you not try to stagnate society, it will invariably change and evolve into something you don't identify with. This is why social conservatism is naive.

There's also a difference between condoning something and simply not caring about it.
#68218 to #68215 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
Ridiculous, not defending the values of society is what will make it devolve, claiming that letting it go to shit is a better alternative is real naivety.

By saying that you don't care you accept it, meaning you condone it, so there's really no difference.
User avatar #68219 to #68218 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Societal values are consensus, not laws written in physics or books. They vary between groups and demographics, where they blend and boil apart over time, forming new values and bringing back old ones. Saving one particular state of time is just selfish, it shows that you value your own sense of safety and familiarity over the freedoms of others, including those like you.

If you want your culture to survive, give it room to thrive. Do not choke it to death.
#68221 to #68219 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
It's not about valuing one system of time, it's about valuing human decency and the things that created civilization. There is no strangulation involved, I already said I'm fine with growth, but horse fucking is not growth, which is now what you're defending.

Think about that, your whole argument is based on the idea that horse fucking is positive growth. I know that you refuse to admit when you're wrong, but this is such a lost cause even your own stubbornness shouldn't prevent you from seeing that.
User avatar #68222 to #68221 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
I never said we should let bestiality happen, just not to make it a fucking priority. How about, y'know, just dealing with it when it happens? There's no need to make everything part of a grand scheme.
User avatar #68229 to #68222 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/18/2014) [-]
Out of curiosity, are you for bestiality being illegal?
User avatar #68232 to #68229 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Sure, since animals cannot consent and it's therefore abuse.
User avatar #68191 to #68190 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
yeah who cares if people fuck little boys?
User avatar #68192 to #68191 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Animals are not human.
User avatar #68194 to #68192 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
and that is why we must not fuck them

unless they have mental illness then we better find a cure and stop it
User avatar #68195 to #68194 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
You're just moving goalposts at this point.
User avatar #68198 to #68195 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
well, it is just some filthy shit to fuck animals so it better to stop.

because allot of people will say: he fucked a dog? i will too!

and im sure we dont want to go and find a neighbor shagging his dog near the window
#68200 to #68198 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
"because allot of people will say: he fucked a dog? i will too!"

I bet you would. Faggot.
#68181 to #68180 - anonymous (08/18/2014) [-]
Gee, I wonder why so many educated people don't agree with me. There must be a conspiracy at work. There's no way anyone could possibly know more than I do.
#68174 - byposted (08/17/2014) [-]
www.thenational.ae/uae/worlds-most-pierced-man-claims-he-was-denied-entry-into-uae

lel

>I never received a response back from you regarding the job. Is it still open?
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#68161 - youregaylol (08/17/2014) [-]
Some say that people become extremists because they are stubborn and refuse to see the other side of the argument, isolating themselves in their own ignorance, but I think the opposite is true.

The more I learned about the left, about Marx and the entire progressive agenda the more I hated them. I think once you see the enemy you become more equipped to combat them by reaffirming your resolve and differentiating yourself from them.

It's like you see evil, and you try to become the opposite of that. Fox news doesn't make fascists like leftists claim, it's everything else.
User avatar #68185 to #68161 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Ideals fueled by hatred of others are the cornerstone of an inefficient, destructive and feelings-driven society.
#68186 to #68185 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
The ideology itself is not really fueled by hatred, more like the hate motivated you to learn about an ideology.

In war you have to hate your enemy, if you don't there's no personal reason for you to fight.
User avatar #68188 to #68186 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
If learning about different ways of thinking evokes such a strong emotional reaction out of you, I doubt you have the mental maturity to make important political decisions. I'm not a leftist because I fantasize about killing skinheads.
#68193 to #68188 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
Who said anything about fantasizing about killing? You're associating war with physical combat. While that is a valid part of war, I also consider war to be battling the opposing side in any way shape or form. Whether that be with debate or rallies, political donations or action committees, or if it comes down to it physical action. All of these things can be used to battle an ideology.

I feel strongly about my beliefs and my convictions, the fact that you didn't feel the way about yours only confirms that I care more than you.
User avatar #68197 to #68193 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Being so emotionally invested in anything is anathema to reason. I base my beliefs off of reasoning, not my desire to destroy others, even if such destruction is only metaphorical.
#68202 to #68197 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
Wrong. Emotion is passion, passion is confidence, confidence means you firmly believe in your values. If you truly believed you were motivated by reason you'd be defending that belief with everything you have, but you don't, and with your ideology I can't blame you.

The left is so devoid of reason that it's impossible to truly be inspired to defend it, you'd need to lead by the mob to do anything.
User avatar #68206 to #68202 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
Just because you have the motivation to do something doesn't mean what you are doing isn't incredibly goddamn stupid. If anything, being passionate about something usually means you refuse to accept opposing things even a little bit and need to turn even the simplest of actions into crusades.

If anything, this is why smart people don't vote. It's sad.
#68208 to #68206 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
And some motivated people being stupid doesn't me that all motivated people are stupid, so I don't see your point. I'm motivated because I understand what will happen if i don't act, and I believe in my principles. If the opposing side is dangerous, why should I compromise on my beliefs? To appear like some moderate? Moderates don't exist, they just seek to hide their true beliefs under a veil of objectivity.

Around 100 million people didn't vote in the last presidential election last time I checked, fewer still on local elections, is it your contention that those people are smart? No, the opposite is true, they are either stupid or lazy, maybe both.

You can't get passionate about your beliefs because your beliefs are dumbed down, if they had any value in them you'd be as motivated as I am. Any rational person would.
User avatar #68210 to #68208 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
It doesn't take a fervent attitude to participate in your nation's politics, only a sense of civil duty. If what you believe makes sense, you will not be afraid of others questioning it from their perspectives and will not see everyone that isn't on your "team" as an enemy waiting for the chance to make your life miserable.

Passion is for romance. Not politics.
#68212 to #68210 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
You can't be inspired to be dutiful without being passionate, and it's not a matter of being afraid of questions, its a matter of dealing with those whose ideas would destroy everything you hold dear. This is not a foreign concept, it's a well established fact that harmful ideas have ruined countries in the past, having the motivation to stop that is commendable.

I find it funny that you think passion belongs in romance but not about in your countries future, it only proves my point about your ideology.
User avatar #68214 to #68212 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
To be dutiful requires only discipline and caring, not passion. If you are so afraid of the other side of the fence, perhaps there is a good reason.
#68216 to #68214 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
Caring=passion. There has never been one political movement in history that didn't have passion.

And of course there's a reason to be afraid, I think their ideology is dangerous. Thanks for proving my point I guess?
User avatar #68217 to #68216 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
"There has never been one political movement in history that didn't have passion."

Personal passion, maybe, but ideological passion? I think of witch hunts and the Red Scares.

"And of course there's a reason to be afraid, I think their ideology is dangerous. Thanks for proving my point I guess?"

Ideas are dangerous? Fucking Christ.
#68220 to #68217 - youregaylol (08/18/2014) [-]
So the founding fathers didn't have an ideological passion for liberty when they establish the USA? Of course not, every modern nation on this earth was founded based on a firm belief in an ideology or belief system that it's founders were passionate about, saying otherwise is idiotic.

Ideas aren't dangerous? Okay, well what if my idea was that we kill everyone who thinks like you and other people agree with me, is that not dangerous to you?

History is filled with dead bodies created out of ideological delusions, it's ridiculous to claim that some belief systems are not dangerous.
User avatar #68223 to #68220 - Shiny (08/18/2014) [-]
No, in fact, the US's declaration of independence was purely pragmatic. None of the Founding Fathers wanted to split from Britain, they simply felt they had to. If King George III wasn't an inbred moron there would've been no problem, Washington and his peers would've remained quite loyal.

"Ideas aren't dangerous? Okay, well what if my idea was that we kill everyone who thinks like you and other people agree with me, is that not dangerous to you?"

No, because you are not actually killing me by saying you want to kill me. You're absolutely at liberty to want me dead, it just makes it that much funnier when your angst does nothing to impact my life.

You are basically doing what social justice slacktivists do when they say insulting women is rape.

Fear is not realism, it is stupidity.
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User avatar #68163 to #68161 - schnizel (08/17/2014) [-]
The more you know, the more you hate, the more you hate the more you act.
User avatar #68145 - feelythefeel (08/17/2014) [-]
>answering a question on r/askhistorians about the holocaust
>get banned because part of my answer >implied that Jews are capable of being bad people
>appeal my ban
>get denied because the person reading my appeal is a specialist on the shoah
Fuck, I really liked that subreddit.
#68173 to #68145 - byposted (08/17/2014) [-]
To recognize that the Jews are an infallible people is a critical component of understanding the holocaust. Next time, instead of hinting at a fairer history, deem them "scapegoats," because that's all they ever were, and will be.
User avatar #68230 to #68173 - feelythefeel (08/18/2014) [-]
The worst part is, that was the concept of my post. I literally said they were just scapegoats. The part I was banned for, however, was the one part where I asked "What reason would Nazis have to make Jews scapegoats".
User avatar #68164 to #68145 - schnizel (08/17/2014) [-]
It's a jewboard.
#68160 to #68145 - oxan (08/17/2014) [-]
>be me
>be a year or two ago
>be still communist
>be on communist reddit
>say 'idiot'
>ableism
>banned
User avatar #68167 to #68160 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/17/2014) [-]
Really? Hehehehehe what a sophisticated place.
#68155 to #68145 - alimais (08/17/2014) [-]
I have some stuff
#68147 to #68145 - syrianassassin (08/17/2014) [-]
his face when denying your appeal
his face when denying your appeal
User avatar #68148 to #68147 - feelythefeel (08/17/2014) [-]
I asked to talk to another moderator, and he at least allowed for that. Still banned until at least tomorrow, though.
#68149 to #68148 - syrianassassin (08/17/2014) [-]
this is how the jews work.

say anythig against them even if it is legit and it is the truth, they will put you in the ground
User avatar #68150 to #68149 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/17/2014) [-]
This is where you belong Omar. This board is your home, you will find many friends with similar views. : ^ )
User avatar #68152 to #68150 - syrianassassin (08/17/2014) [-]
i have special plans for religion board. and it will be more worse than anything i did
User avatar #68166 to #68152 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/17/2014) [-]
Well you promised you wouldn't post there.
User avatar #68168 to #68166 - syrianassassin (08/17/2014) [-]
who said i will post there?
User avatar #68169 to #68168 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/17/2014) [-]
Just sayin, what is your plan? Non-chosen one
User avatar #68170 to #68169 - syrianassassin (08/17/2014) [-]
they gotta wait 6 years
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#68142 - pebar (08/17/2014) [-]
www.gallup.com/poll/155285/Atheists-Muslims-Bias-Presidential-Candidates.aspx   
   
looks like democrats hate atheists almost as much as republicans
www.gallup.com/poll/155285/Atheists-Muslims-Bias-Presidential-Candidates.aspx

looks like democrats hate atheists almost as much as republicans
#68151 to #68142 - anonymous (08/17/2014) [-]
So many people I know that describe themselves as "liberal" in the modern American sense of the world, would really clash with a Democratic politician if they met in person.
#68153 to #68151 - anonymous (08/17/2014) [-]
Particularly sense many of them are anti-interventionists.
#68154 to #68153 - anonymous (08/17/2014) [-]
*since

fuck
User avatar #68129 - byposted (08/16/2014) [-]
Missouri Gov. Nixon declares state of emergency, curfew in Ferguson
www.kmbc.com/news/missouri-gov-nixon-declares-state-of-emergency-curfew-in-ferguson/27531552
User avatar #68141 to #68129 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/17/2014) [-]
I feel bad for that guy having to answer stupid libtard questions.
User avatar #68140 to #68129 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/17/2014) [-]
I watched some of the protests/looting and they were basically 97% nigger.
User avatar #68130 to #68129 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
Oh snap.
User avatar #68127 - nigalthornberry ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
I can't say whether or not Michael Brown was attacking the cop or not, no one can really The cop seems to check out fine though from his past but the situation down there is too fucked up if you want to have a memorial for someone don't go fucking up your own neighborhood instead just peacefully protest

The cops can't do shit to put down the riots because they'll get branded with brutality so now they have to live with being called incompetent
#68126 - anonymous (08/16/2014) [-]
User avatar #68135 to #68126 - feelythefeel (08/17/2014) [-]
>tfw the vast majority of western parties, including the American Democrat party, are right wing authoritarian
>tfw left wing libertarians will forever be told that "left wing" parties are communist and right wing parties only fail because we don't give them enough power
>tfw we're not being represented and the people who are blame us when they mess up
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#68128 to #68126 - anonymous (08/16/2014) [-]
>Implying Obama is even close to a Communist   
   
Go back to crying about your gun rights.
>Implying Obama is even close to a Communist

Go back to crying about your gun rights.
#68106 - bitchpleaseshutup ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
>not supporting Israel

Are you guys gay?
#68107 to #68106 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
>supporting a country who violated over 60 UN resolutions    
>being this JIDF
>supporting a country who violated over 60 UN resolutions
>being this JIDF
User avatar #68115 to #68107 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
>supporting countries with terrorist organizations in them
>supporting countries with sharia law
>supporting countries that literally wanna wipe you off the map
>supporting countries that praised 911
>supporting countries that are turning Europe into Eurabia and soon North-A too

>being this MIDF
#68119 to #68115 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
>supporting a country who supports said sharia terrorist organisations in other countries   
>support a country which sides with Wahhabi arabs   
>support a country that praised 911  counts for Israel too    
>supporting countries that literally has a plan to wipe you off the map  Samson Option    
>supporting a country who flies Africans to Europe    
   
>being this JIDF
>supporting a country who supports said sharia terrorist organisations in other countries
>support a country which sides with Wahhabi arabs
>support a country that praised 911 counts for Israel too
>supporting countries that literally has a plan to wipe you off the map Samson Option
>supporting a country who flies Africans to Europe

>being this JIDF
#68131 to #68119 - cabbagemayhem (08/16/2014) [-]
1. Bullshit.
2. Bullshit.
3. Bullshit.
4. The Samson Option is a "deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence." Every nation with nuclear power has a nuclear deterrent plan.
5. You mean people traveling from Africa to Europe sometimes pass through Israel?

WTF kind of misinformation is this? Do you even believe this stuff yourself?
#68133 to #68131 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
1. Israel has multiple times called air-strikes into Syria and Israeli stuff was found among the FSA stratrisks.com/geostrat/13310
2. Saudi Arabia / FSA etc.
3. "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor." ~ Bibi N.
4. look more into the Samson Option ;)
5. www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.567450
#68139 to #68133 - cabbagemayhem (08/17/2014) [-]
Also, post anything you want to say to me here (not my profile). My supervisor is commonsense. It doesn't take some special interest group (e.g. JIDF) to see through your bullshit. Would you rather me leave and let you post propaganda that you should know is false, or would you rather me tell you why it's false so you can take a sound stance on issues and find yourself in the right?
#68138 to #68133 - cabbagemayhem (08/17/2014) [-]
1. The Syrian conflict is more of a civil war than terrorism. The FSA was started by members of the Syrian army because they refused to fire on their own peacefully protesting people. The link you posted has a sketchy source, but there's at least two reliable reporting agencies that estimate the number of foreign combatants in the FSA to be minimal. [1] The U.N.-sponsored "Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic" said rebels had committed war crimes, but they "did not reach the gravity, frequency and scale" of those by the state forces. [2]

2. What countries are those? And, that's nothing like outright supporting countries under Sharia law. One's just a religion, the other is a set of enforced laws that violate human rights every day.

3. That's just a statement. It doesn't mean he wanted the twin towers to fall, he just stated the effect it had on them. Is that all you have? Other countries openly praise 9/11.

4. What do I need to look for? I've found nothing of significance and plausibility from all the anti-Israeli posts on this board to pique my interest in chasing ducks.

5. They didn't fly Africans to Europe. They went voluntarily as a strike against Israeli migration policies.

References:
1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army#Foreign_combatants
2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army#War_Crimes_Allegations
#68157 to #68138 - alimais (08/17/2014) [-]
syrianassassin also know much about the conflict and the source on 95% of FSA are foreigner comes from Spiegel

'NYT' Cuts References to AIPAC in Syria Debate
www.thenation.com/blog/176001/nyt-cuts-key-references-aipac-pressure-syria-debate#
AIPAC to go all-out on Syria
www.politico.com/story/2013/09/aipac-syria-96344.html?ml=la
Syria army confiscates Israeli-made arms
www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/12/02/337755/syria-army-confiscates-israelimade-arms/
Israel ‘furious’ with White House for leak on Syria strike
www.timesofisrael.com/israel-furious-with-white-house-for-leak-on-syria-strike/
U.S. right to arm Syrian rebels, says Israeli president
uk.reuters.com/article/2013/06/18/uk-israel-peres-idUKBRE95H02F20130618
U.S. Officials: Israel behind Recent Syria Airstrike
www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/169879#.UgYSuT_pi2X
Israel & FSA attacking and killing Palestinians same day!
english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107120028
FSA leader Aroor Says Attacking Israel Is a Crime
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Israeli Weapons Found in Syria
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FSA in Syria Spiritual Leaders Says MB Is an Ally of Israel, Always Been
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#68175 to #68157 - cabbagemayhem (08/17/2014) [-]
Image - America hasn't support Al-Qaeda since they became a terrorist group. The Wikipedia page no longer says that since the snapshot was taken. It's not dated, so for all I know someone put it there just for the screenshot. Also, pasting an image of an Israeli flag on it doesn't somehow implicate Israel.

Most of those link titles just should like normal everyday politics or anti-Israeli propaganda that I've already debunked a thousand times. Otherwise, I see nothing outrageous, let alone worthy of vilifying Israel over her neighbors. There may be a few foreigners fighting with the FSA, but nothing significant that would make it anything other than a civil war. Bashar might complain about the few, but it doesn't address all the Syrians fighting. And, other nations supporting the side you think is right in a civil war is completely normal. It's the people's choice to fight and they're helpless without supplies.
#68272 to #68246 - cabbagemayhem (08/19/2014) [-]
1. I can't find a point anytime in the last year that Wikipedia page was in that state. It was probably for a very short period of time. That wording had no factual basis, so I'm not surprised.

2. Al-Julani wasn't removed from a "blacklist", he was removed from the top 10 most wanted terrorists. That doesn't mean the U.S. is suddenly giving him a stamp of approval. It just means there worse people. Seriously, ALL of this propaganda hinges on twisting words and taking things out of context. Wake up, people!

3. That reference seems sketchy, and no doubt, the first reliable source it cites is a CNN blog taken out of context and applied to the wrong group. It assumes the rebels are Al-Qaeda, which we know the FSA are not, and then speculates on our intentions. They aren't the only ones we give safe-handling training to to try to prevent their use and effect the most good. The article is just a conspiracy theory to appeal to what you want to believe. It's no evidence the U.S. was doing anything it shouldn't.
#68179 to #68175 - syrianassassin (08/18/2014) [-]
yes they did support al-qaida

as a syrian i confirm alimais

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Al-Nusra Front is a branch from al qaida: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

Islamic Front (Syria) in the section of Affiliation with Al-Qaeda: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Front_(Syria)

they are all supported by the sand niggers below us and the MURICA!
and more and more shit to be said about those armed terrorist groups

of course if you are american, what will you do now is deny the truth and accept the told lies
#68233 to #68179 - cabbagemayhem (08/18/2014) [-]
I addressed your first link in my last post. It doesn't link America to Al-Qaeda. The image he posted was either a forgery or a mistake.

Concerning your other references, I assume you meant to say that America supports Al-Nusra, and therefore helps Al-Qaeda by proxy. That's not true either. America officially considers Al-Nusra a terrorist organization. Quoted from your own reference: "The US Government has been sending weapons to rebels in Syria since at least late 2013, and perhaps as early as 2011, during the begininning phases of the conflict. These weapons have been reportedly falling into hands of extremists, such as Al-Nusra and ISIL" That is unfortunate, but we don't give them weapons. They take them from groups we try to help.

The Syrian civil war is mostly between Syrians. You are both the same people, brothers and sisters, seeing from two different perspectives. The FSA only fights because they couldn't bear to see their own people oppressed by their own government.

You can hate America all you want and pretend like we are stupid and refuse to see the truth, but we didn't get here by being ignorant or suppressing dissenting viewpoints. We got here by defending free speech and human rights, not each for ourselves, but for each other and those who can't for themselves. Only then are you free yourself, and only in a free society are you free to grow.
#68241 to #68233 - syrianassassin (08/19/2014) [-]
you are a unique type of stupid

>USA support FSA
>al qaida is a friend of FSA and supported by FSA in syria

and still they are supporting them
#68248 to #68241 - cabbagemayhem (08/19/2014) [-]
You can say that all you want, but it's not going to make it true. I saw no reliable source of the FSA supporting any extremists.

"The FSA is in stark contrast with groups such as Jabhat al-Nusra which have been designated as terrorist by several Western countries; this has led to a rift between the secular forces fighting the Syrian government and al-Qaeda linked groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS, often resulting in deaths. The FSA maintains good relations with moderate Islamist factions such as the Islamic Front." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

If you're reduced to name-calling, then I'd like to close with: good luck in the development of your country, and I hope you see the importance of freedom for everyone in your society. I also hope you and your country has another look at Christianity because that is where real freedom comes from.

EDIT: clarify first paragraph
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#68105 - alimais (08/16/2014) [-]
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And bring something back which sums up the stereotype or your views of that country
Go to one of those image boards

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And bring something back which sums up the stereotype or your views of that country
#68137 to #68105 - feelythefeel (08/17/2014) [-]
Oh this'll do for Russia nicely.

Because they're fucking insane.
#68071 - pebar (08/15/2014) [-]
www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GF0LP20140815   
   
(Reuters) - Minutes before a police officer shot him dead, Michael Brown had become a suspect in the theft of cigars from a store, according to police reports released on Friday after days of protests in a St. Louis suburb over the unarmed black teenager's death.   
   
But the officer who shot Brown was unaware that the 18-year-old was a suspect in the robbery of the nearby convenience store, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said at a news conference.   
   
Rather, Officer Darren Wilson, 28, shot and killed Michael Brown during an altercation after Wilson asked Brown to move out of the street onto a sidewalk, Jackson said.
www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GF0LP20140815

(Reuters) - Minutes before a police officer shot him dead, Michael Brown had become a suspect in the theft of cigars from a store, according to police reports released on Friday after days of protests in a St. Louis suburb over the unarmed black teenager's death.

But the officer who shot Brown was unaware that the 18-year-old was a suspect in the robbery of the nearby convenience store, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said at a news conference.

Rather, Officer Darren Wilson, 28, shot and killed Michael Brown during an altercation after Wilson asked Brown to move out of the street onto a sidewalk, Jackson said.
User avatar #68091 to #68071 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
He a gud boy he din do nuffin.

But seriously. Can I really say I didn't expect this?
User avatar #68072 to #68071 - pebar (08/15/2014) [-]
Dorian Johnson, the friend who was with Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer over the weekend, reportedly confirmed that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/15/robbery-not-related-to-why-michael-brown-was-initially-stopped-by-ferguson/
#68033 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
Just making this clear. If you are a nat soc/anti-nigger/polite and you listen to rap then you are fucking retarded. I don't think I need explaining.
User avatar #68073 to #68033 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
What's the point of the first effect of this card? That's like saying "Name any kind of ice cream you want so you can get it yourself".
User avatar #68077 to #68074 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
6.) What does the X cost mean here? It's usually used to represent a mana value that differs depending on how the card is used. But here it's just... there.
User avatar #68076 to #68074 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
Oh, and 4.) It's black and red even though it costs nothing. It should be grey.
5.) It costs three nothings.
User avatar #68075 to #68074 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
1.) Half of those aren't even effects.
2.) Life drain isn't an effect, it's an ability. Maybe if it had Life Drain and had the effect "This card's Life Drain ability only activates when this HINC attacks a human creature. Multiply the effect of Life Drain by ten", or something like that. But no.
3.) It has zero health. In almost any case it would die immediately.
User avatar #68079 to #68078 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
1.) The tap symbol is not a mana cost symbol. The mana cost seems to be implying that you have to tap this card twice before playing it.
2.) What does "Full instant manna" mean?
3.) Manna
4.) Disable is not an effect.
5.) What is "Shields owner through slums" supposed to mean?
6.) Even more pointless X to cast symbols.
7.) The description isn't even a proper sentence.
8.) There are cards that cost more than this that are lucky to be much more than 10/10s with a good effect. And here's a 50/50 for ten plus... whatever tap twice is supposed to mean.
User avatar #68081 to #68080 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
1.) Creatures don't block. They're attacked. This isn't Yu-Gi-Oh.
2.) What does it mean to "Go category five cable"?
3.) Oh cool, this card is temporarily slightly better. Too bad it's also tapped for the whole time.
4.) What's the point of giving a creature haste after it's already come out? the whole point of the ability is that it can attack when it first comes out.
5.) Why would anyone pay five and five per turn for an 8/8 with trample? Mind you, an 8/8 with trample is good, but it's certainly not that good. Most of this doesn't matter though, because
6.) this thing is usually dead the moment it comes out. Literally. It's another 0/0.
7.) This creature is not legendary and you know it.
8.) Nixon quotes do not fantasy immersion make.
9.) This card costs grey mana, so it should be grey. But it's brown.
User avatar #68083 to #68082 - feelythefeel (08/16/2014) [-]
I'm busy right now. Sorry.
User avatar #68065 to #68031 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
>When the battle begins, you need troops who can defeat the Mongol horse archers and lancers. This is where the longbow and heavy crossbow come into their own.

Take two equally fit and equally well-trained archers. Have one of them bouncing around on the back of a moving horse; have the other standing with both feet firmly planted on the ground. Which of them will be most effective? The foot archer, of course. He can also use a larger and more powerful bow. He's a smaller target than the combination of a man plus a horse. And he can carry a large shield or have someone else stand in front of him holding a shield. (That's how the ancient Persians defeated horse archers back in their own day—regiments of archers with shield-bearers standing in front of them. Not very effective against Macedonian pikemen, but deadly against Central Asian cavalry.)
User avatar #68067 to #68065 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Account for training and for experience along with the tools of the horde.
User avatar #68102 to #68067 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
True, but they are not unbeatable, just very hard to beat.
User avatar #68116 to #68102 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
No just saying those horse archers will slaughter lesser men.
User avatar #68118 to #68116 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
hows medieval 2
User avatar #68120 to #68118 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
Shogun
User avatar #68123 to #68120 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
oh
how is it
User avatar #68132 to #68123 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
Pretty good.
User avatar #68134 to #68132 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
nice
User avatar #68124 to #68123 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
brb
User avatar #68117 to #68116 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
kinda
User avatar #68032 to #68031 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Kewl
I even had my own tactics to defeat them.
User avatar #68042 to #68032 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Like?
User avatar #68043 to #68042 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Crossbows combined with a lot of small arty.
Spear wall agains their arrows
Fixed side cav
When in battle
User avatar #68044 to #68043 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
They strike your calvery (who isn't immune to their arrows and then flank your spears.

The shields will fall all the same.

Arty is then destroyed by flanking bowmen.

You forgot about the flanking didn't you.
#68050 to #68044 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
also, whats your tactics
User avatar #68054 to #68050 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Haven't put much thought into it because I have been thinking about how to defend against a modern foe.
User avatar #68047 to #68044 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
nigga trust me
I played total war
User avatar #68049 to #68047 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Is that any good?
User avatar #68056 to #68051 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Describe it.
User avatar #68057 to #68056 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
well the game is old but good
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqfsnByYN14
User avatar #68058 to #68057 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
I got TW shotgun 2
User avatar #68059 to #68058 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
thats one of the best in the series
User avatar #68060 to #68059 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
So what should I expect while playing it?

What about Rome 2?
User avatar #68061 to #68060 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, you have many cool events and the campaign is fun, and if you want a challenge then download darth mod. There is even the mongol invasion.
User avatar #68062 to #68061 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
I mean what is the game like? I am downloading the game now.

Compare it something I might know.
User avatar #68063 to #68062 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
hmm
its like shogun but in medieval europe with worse animations
User avatar #68070 to #68063 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
ANy difference between units?
User avatar #68069 to #68063 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
oh.
User avatar #68046 to #68044 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Ok, mounted archers dont have the same rang as regular arches, even talking about crossbowsa and arty should also mess up their ranks reall good. Also talking about that I live in bosnia son where your cavalry is useless, and it seems that we were to only ones in the balkans not conquered by them.
User avatar #68048 to #68046 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Dude they are firing composite bows, range+power= dead kebab. And consider that these are experienced soldiers, they will hit your archers.

These are mobile units arty takes too long to reload your be better off with more long bowmen as they will quickly close the distance. Also they will just capture it to use against you.

Maybe because you had nothing of value to raid being so far from home.

What if you aren't fighting in that location?
User avatar #68053 to #68048 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, I usually always take the high ground.....
User avatar #68055 to #68053 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Always good.
User avatar #68052 to #68048 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
idk nigga
tell me yo tactic then nigga
#67985 - pebar (08/15/2014) [-]
The name of the officer who killed the guy has been ID'd.
A mob lynching has been scheduled for this weekend. sarcasm, obviously

Meanwhile, the police claim the dead guy was a robbery suspect.
(Guess how well that news was taken....)

www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GF0LP20140815
www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-fergsuon-shooting-police-name-20140815-story.html
User avatar #67992 to #67985 - alimais (08/15/2014) [-]
I saw that the same time on /pol/ as you posted it
User avatar #67987 to #67985 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Damn you are fast.
User avatar #67964 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Whose got a better army, NCR or Legion?

If you like we can start with an analysis of basic recruits.
User avatar #68100 to #67964 - themanwithnoplan (08/16/2014) [-]
NCR by a mile.

Superior tech, superior supplies, Army-building strategy that doesn't rely on momentum, Higher-ups that wouldn't pass for a mental-patient, and the NCR don't have their heads up their asses about being technophobes.
User avatar #68029 to #67964 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
the NCR is the best and will win.
User avatar #68030 to #68029 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Why?
User avatar #68034 to #68030 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
Well my nigga, idk. I gotta think about it. I'll gib some mone- I mean reasons later.
User avatar #68045 to #68034 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
k.
User avatar #68110 to #68045 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
i couldn't think of any other then the fact that they have the much better weapons and most likely more people to fight with them.
User avatar #68121 to #68110 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/16/2014) [-]
Unless you consider the upper level soldiers.
User avatar #67982 to #67964 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Legion, the NCR will fall like 'Merica, but Caesar hold the monopoly of violence in the desert.
User avatar #68111 to #67982 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
But doesn't the NCR have better weapons & more people?
User avatar #68112 to #68111 - schnizel (08/16/2014) [-]
Depends, but still, never underestimate a desperate enemy.
User avatar #68113 to #68112 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/16/2014) [-]
Yes goy, never do ; )
User avatar #67988 to #67982 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
But the only one with knowledge of how to lead is Caesar and Caesar will succumb to his headaches.

His commanders are not wise but brutal.
User avatar #68008 to #67988 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
In the ending where you join the Legion, let Caesar die and get he Enclave to help you, all of Caesar's potential successors work together to try to find the Enclave. I like to think it's proof of potential for a Roman-styled Republic after Caesar's death, or something to the effect.
#68025 to #68008 - youregaylol (08/15/2014) [-]
I haven't really played any video games in the past year but I'm pretty sure chasing the Enclave was a bad move with a bunch of men dying for no reason, something that Caesar wouldn't allow.

If anything that signifies that the entire legion is nothing without a strong leader.
User avatar #68027 to #68025 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Yes, but it's the jolly cooperation that counts.
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#68028 to #68026 - youregaylol (08/15/2014) [-]
I know, I recruited them in my Yes Man/ Courier power grab play through.

After I killed Caesar I remember something about Legate sending hundreds of men to their deaths chasing them across the desert with nothing to show for it, I think that was meant to signify the end of the Legion as a competent force. If you keep Caesar I think he lets them go, not sure though.
User avatar #68013 to #68008 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Maybe.
User avatar #67990 to #67988 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
True, but damn effective, unless caesar has a son.
User avatar #67996 to #67990 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
He won't last that long and as far as I know he doesn't have a harem.

Also take into account the equipment of the soldier being mostly poor. (Its like US army vs Native American warriors of the same age.)

He's a great warrior and can "sense weakness" but these two traits do not make one a great warrior. So I am told.

However not taking the town of Novac and even temporally to sever supply lines shows a great lack of skill.
In destroying Novac you force NCR to double its defenses along the supply lines but to no help as the troops can't fend off the legion raiding parties.

If he loses, he loses a town of no importance other than symbolic purpose.
And all he would need to do is throw some dynamite from the cliff above the NCR and then flank the road block. before bringing up the more experienced legionaries from up the road. That gets rid of the road block very quickly then you seen in a raiding party up from the direction of the robco area or from the ranger base and quickly hold the houses where the snipers can't harm you.

That or use a few legion spies to ambush the snipers.

Simple stuff.
User avatar #67997 to #67996 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, he could get any slave girl.
The eqipment will improve over time as they loot more or even take Vegas.
And new F4 will tell the tale.
User avatar #67998 to #67997 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
But hasn't.

No because they believe that technology and man's reliance on it was what caused the last great disaster. And they couldn't take Vegas. Unlike NCR house's troops are god tier with their weapons perfectly suitable for killing the legion.

It will be too far away to tell.
User avatar #68003 to #67999 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Is it cannon?
User avatar #68005 to #68004 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Part of official story line or is it a mod. Looks like a mod.
User avatar #68006 to #68005 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
I think it's official.
User avatar #68010 to #68006 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Initial dialogue with Achilles, a Legion-recruitable companion.
Caesar's New Regime mod here: newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45557//?

Don't lie to me
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User avatar #68009 to #68007 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
I said I think.
User avatar #68011 to #68009 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
You posted it.
User avatar #68014 to #68012 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Anyway. what was the point you were trying to make.
User avatar #68015 to #68014 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
listen
User avatar #68016 to #68015 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Fuck no its 11 minutes of poor voice acting. I got shit to do like study military tactics.
User avatar #68024 to #68016 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
I doubt it, do you have any idea how he came to power? He became the leader of a tribe that had him as a prisoner.
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Until a new one comes?
User avatar #68022 to #68016 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
Well, they have been doing a lot of raiding like the earlier Romans, and they are very cunning, the first assault on the dam would be victorious if Caesar has been there too.
They are keeping reserves.
>More like more scared of the spears behind them, also if you make your troops reckless like the Japanese of ww2 you lose good experienced troops that way.
True, but once the legion has its Rome, everything will procede more smothly.
User avatar #68023 to #68022 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
Not really so, Caser is a figure head but not a good warrior or general.
For what? They have access to service rifles but keep using varmet rifles.
Not really because they are all dependent on Cesar who will die soon.
User avatar #68020 to #68016 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
>tldr
Roman army used most advanced tactics so the kaisar made it up on that principle
They don't have enough guns so guns are given to the more valuable people
They want their units to become less afraid of guns and bullets because it develops into trench warfare and caesar wants conquests, not defensive wars
User avatar #68021 to #68020 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
If that is true they don't show it.
Of course but they have access to allot of guns they just don't fully use them.
More like more scared of the spears behind them, also if you make your troops reckless like the Japanese of ww2 you lose good experienced troops that way.
User avatar #68019 to #68017 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
So give me a summery.
User avatar #67993 to #67990 - turtletroll (08/15/2014) [-]
Implying Lanius wouldn't be a great leader
User avatar #67995 to #67994 - turtletroll (08/15/2014) [-]
<3

Niggers already started looting lel.
#67967 to #67964 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
The Army of the New California Republic, obviously.

>Conscript army kicking the shit out of life-time soldiers

Also, 'legioner'? Whoever made this fucking picture is retarded.
User avatar #68035 to #67967 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
Love this pic.
User avatar #67973 to #67967 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
The Boomers, just by the way, are the greatest faction

>Militaristic
>Monarchy
>Limited immigration
>Self-sustainable
User avatar #68036 to #67973 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
True but I killed them all...

Although the BoS is the coolest and dopest one.
User avatar #68090 to #68036 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
The BoS is pretty based, indeed.
User avatar #68000 to #67973 - undeadwill ONLINE (08/15/2014) [-]
This is very true.
User avatar #67965 to #67964 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Personally, I'd go with Legion. They're part of a better system more focused on protecting conquered land than exploiting it, and they're more professionally trained and organized with more discipline. The only disadvantage is weaponry, seeing as a lot of Legion units use swords for some reason (Which is potentially subverted as a problem by the fact that in the Fallout universe, you can actually bring knives to gunfights and win).
User avatar #67974 to #67965 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
>Protecting conquered land
>Not exploiting it
>Legion

What.
User avatar #67975 to #67974 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
Let's say there's a village. When the Legion comes across the village, they don't usually "Conquer" it per se, as much as give it protection in exchange for becoming a part of the Legion. After that, aside from contributing in areas such as troops and taxes, the village will be as free as it was before. The NCR, however, assumes control of frontier locations and offers no benefits to the local people (As suggested by the constant griping of many people under NCR rule about exploitation and over-management).
User avatar #67976 to #67975 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
>A vast army of slaves, forged by the conquest of 86 tribes: Caesar's Legion.

Whereas the Desert Rangers of Nevada agreed to be absorbed into the NCR Rangers in exchange for NCR protection of the Mojave Wasteland against the Legion.

Frontier locations are happy to have the NCR patrolling the roads, keeping the wildlife and Legion at bay, but they don't want to contribute to the costs.
User avatar #67977 to #67976 - feelythefeel (08/15/2014) [-]
But the NCR is shit tier at actually doing that. Legion routes are routinely preferred by merchants because of the relative safety. As for the slave part, it's part of the contributions I mentioned. The Legion isn't the hero we want; It's the hero we need.

Anyways, I have to go to bed. Noot.
User avatar #67978 to #67977 - oxan (08/15/2014) [-]
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nipton

Peacefully absorbed into the Legion.

fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Primm

Violently conquered by the NCR Army who impose their rule with force. Residents certainly did not suggest to the Courier that they're happy to receive NCR protection. NCR forces certainly did not hesitate and were not content to have Primm police itself.

>Relative safety

The Western territories of the NCR would be hella safe. It's only the frontier that is dangerous, for obvious reasons and that's no fault of the NCR.

>Noot

Night bby talk to you tomorrow
User avatar #67984 to #67978 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
>Nipton was a wicked place, debased and corrupt. It served all comers, as long as they paid. Profligate troops, Powder Gangers, men of the Legion such as myself. The people here didn't care. It was a town of whores. For a pittance, the town agreed to lead those it had sheltered into a trap. Only when I sprang it did they realize they were caught inside it, too.
User avatar #68086 to #67984 - oxan (08/16/2014) [-]
They only killed the NCR troopers and civilians. There's no Legion corpses, except the one killed by the laser rifle.
User avatar #68038 to #68037 - schnizel (08/15/2014) [-]
cant now nigger
working out like a good goy
User avatar #68039 to #68038 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/15/2014) [-]
ye ye I'm just showing you, I don't wanna play now too.
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