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#120325 - whoozy
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GIF
I'm actually worried
If Scotland and Ireland want their independence what's going to be left of the UK?
#120337 to #120325 - anon id: c41a2372
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Why is that a bad thing?
User avatar #120357 to #120337 - whoozy
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Because I like the UK
User avatar #120335 to #120325 - theplanetearth
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I hope Northern Ireland leaves.
User avatar #120332 to #120325 - thumbfortrump
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All my Union Jack merchandise is going to be redundant
User avatar #120331 to #120325 - redandgreen
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England would be left along with Wales. Sooner or later Wales would probably leave because they'd be sick of being ruled by the English Tory majority.
User avatar #120328 to #120325 - redandgreen
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Ireland is already independent. You mean Northern Ireland.
#120315 - shekelnator
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Remain fags on suicide watch.
#120362 to #120315 - lotengo
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User avatar #120314 - thumbfortrump
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I've seen several liberal media saying it was wrong of Cameron to even have the referendum in the first place.

How can anyone seriously argue that referendums are wrong? Sure, you might disagree with the outcome, but that's how democracy works. If anything the opinion of the people is the most important.
User avatar #120327 to #120314 - redandgreen
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I don't think they're wrong. I do think there should be a requirement for two thirds majority though.
#120316 to #120314 - valeriya
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How can anyone seriously argue that referendums are wrong.

One tyranny by majority, the minority who voted against (48%) is now subjected to the will of 52% and is entirely unrepresented in this choice, so we're representing 52% out of 72% turnout
They give legitimacy points to potentially stupid choices. Let's say we had a referendum on I don't know whether to nuke north korea.
The opinion of the mob is largely secondary. Call me old fashioned but people are not clever, they can be misled and do not know what is actually in their interests. (See picture related, red = high amounts of eu funding) www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results note that wales and ni areas voted to leave despite explicitly benefiting from the eu
We're already seeing some vote leave back tracks.
User avatar #120349 to #120316 - kanadetenshi
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It's rather disgusting to think that people's ideals and views should be swayed by EU's bribing.
User avatar #120350 to #120349 - valeriya
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If by bribing you mean propping up their economy Literally London has a larger economy by several times over , because westminister refuses to do so seeing it as a sunk ship, even with all the money they believe they'll be getting. The welsh have only really proven themselves stupid, since they are in for a world of economic pain.
User avatar #120351 to #120350 - kanadetenshi
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No the Welsh have realized that you can't buy people with flashy subsidizes and bribes, and no retarded economically illiterate communists like you could scare monger them.
User avatar #120352 to #120351 - valeriya
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Well, we shall see, I'm rather confident of this one, since wales is best thought of as the UK's poorhouse, quite literally, I very much doubt Westminster will step in to prop up the welsh infrastructure and economy, they barely did so when the steel industry began collapsing.
User avatar #120330 to #120316 - redandgreen
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Yes, the Welsh got sold some shit there. There's no way a Tory government will invest that money in those areas either.

Turkeys voted for Christmas.
User avatar #120322 to #120316 - youregaylol
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Commies distrustful of majorities?

What a world.
User avatar #120323 to #120322 - valeriya
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Rome is a mob.
User avatar #120317 to #120316 - thumbfortrump
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I agree totally that a lot of people obviously aren't very intelligent.
But people get the society they deserve.
User avatar #120318 to #120317 - valeriya
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One tyranny by majority, the minority who voted against (48%) is now subjected to the will of 52% and is entirely unrepresented in this choice, so we're representing 52% out of 72% turnout - This is my main issue really, we're listening I think to 25% out of the entire of those eligable, I'm not saying they'd tip it either way, but it's not really much of a claim to legitimacy.

Much like the US elections have their problem of low voter turnout meaning you can argue the US government is not a legitimate government.
User avatar #120319 to #120318 - thumbfortrump
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I somewhat agree, but not many alternatives. However it did serve to show the political differences between England and Scotland. I can't see any other outcome than Scotland voting for independence.
User avatar #120320 to #120319 - valeriya
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That will be interesting to watch...
#120312 - shekelnator
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This fucking kike. hope he get heart attack now
User avatar #120336 to #120312 - theplanetearth
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It's like Christmas morning.
#120309 - shekelnator
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god bless you UK friends! A one step further to better future to your people and mine

UK WILL BE GREAT AGAIN!
#120308 - anon id: 1b3decad
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623 BREXIT FAGGOT
User avatar #120307 - thumbfortrump
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anyone have a link to the kek-post on pol?
User avatar #120310 to #120307 - lotengo
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the wut?
User avatar #120313 to #120310 - thumbfortrump
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someone made a post where it said something about 66,6% something, and he had 666 ending digits, whilst saying "kek whilst it"
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User avatar #120295 - kanadetenshi
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So now that David Cameron is resigning who will the Tories pick next for PM?

Boris Johnson would seem like an obvious choice, he's always been a favorite and has gotten a huge boost with this referendum, but he'd probably be really polarizing for the party right now considering he was the most vocal Leave supporter so he'll likely be blocked by the former Remain MPs of the party.

Another strong contender is Theresa May it seems, but i don't know much about her, she seems very low energy and bland really.

Michael Gove seems like a strong contender too, principled conservative guy, though his neoconservative views are for me a turn-off and his stance of the NHS will likely turn off voters who practically worship it.

Ruth Davidson, the leader of the Scottish conservative party gained notoriety after debating in favor of Remain in the BBC debate, but she'd be a long shot.
User avatar #120299 to #120295 - thumbfortrump
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Most likely Boris Johnson. He was one of the first cons for Brexit and he's extremely well known.
User avatar #120302 to #120299 - redandgreen
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Kanadetenshi may be right though, Boris could be very divisive. I doubt it will be Gove because he's genuinely hated in parts of the party and the country.

Probably won't be Ian Duncan Smith because he had it and failed before.

Could be May.

User avatar #120304 to #120302 - thumbfortrump
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Well Farage called for a Brexit government, so they'll have to choose someone pro-leave if they want to survive next general election.
User avatar #120305 to #120304 - redandgreen
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You're probably right.

metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/farage-says-350million-nhs-pledge-was-a-mistake-5963794/

The bullshit is unravelling already.
#120306 to #120305 - thumbfortrump
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Epic victory.

But the people have spoken, I can only respect that. I still think they made a huge mistake.
From a law perspective this is going to be extremely interesting though. I don't think any country has ever experienced having to replace so much law in such a short amount of time.
User avatar #120311 to #120306 - redandgreen
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You're right, the outcome has to be respected.

I think there'll be a lot of very angry Brexit people over the next few years though as they realise that:

1. The promised dividend from leaving isn't going to appear
2. Much of the EU regulation will have to be retained
3. New EU regulation will still have to be adopted

That's leaving aside the speculative stuff on the economy, the above are certainties.
User avatar #120294 - youregaylol
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User avatar #120297 to #120294 - thumbfortrump
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Yes, it's obvious me and him have a disagreement here. But he's addressing the whole immigration issue, which I've continuously also been against. That's why I've been calling for opt-outs like the Danes have. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_opt-outs_from_the_European_Union
I've never said the EU was some divine, perfect thing, pretty much the contrary. I've only supported the EU because of the single market. I'm fully against any regulation that does not relate to the single market.

Now, I know some are going to ask "shouldn't UK just follow the European Free Trade Association."
Sure. But they won't have any influence on the regulation. If Brexit supporters argument is that the EU is undemocratic, then joining EFTA would be directly contradictory to their own principles.
User avatar #120303 to #120297 - redandgreen
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I don't think the Remain camp ever tackled the immigration issue and the Brexit camp never covered the economic and democratic issues.
#120298 to #120297 - youregaylol
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User avatar #120293 - lotengo
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Kool  The Gang  Celebration
Idea for a theme account. Name: suicidewatch.
And then just start stalking mudkipfucker
#120334 to #120293 - mudkipfucker
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#120289 - thumbfortrump
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UK the absolute madman.
User avatar #120283 - klowserpok
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Cameron to step down as PM by October
ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKCN0ZA11H
User avatar #120287 to #120283 - drastronomy
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After all his bullshit, he is still a decent loser. Props to him.
User avatar #120280 - joshlol
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Farewell EU

this feels surreal
User avatar #120301 to #120280 - whoozy
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Did you get the result you wanted?
#120339 to #120301 - anon id: c41a2372
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Yes. Why did you not?
#120296 to #120280 - youregaylol
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#120273 - kanadetenshi
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#120288 to #120273 - drastronomy
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NO SURVIVORS
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#120272 - anon id: ce9cb965
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the Jews started the holocaust
User avatar #120268 - kanadetenshi
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The fact that Leave won against all odds and predictions is a really good sign for Trump. He should definitely not be underestimated now.
#120284 to #120268 - theplanetearth
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#120265 - pebar
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If the UK doesn't maintain free trade, Brexit will completely backfire

>Everyone's FW the pound dropped to its lowest point in 30 years
User avatar #120324 to #120265 - valeriya
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next.ft.com/content/29a7964c-3953-11e6-9a05-82a9b15a8ee7

In order to gain full access to the european free trade area we have to accept free movement of people. Which is not likely
User avatar #120291 to #120265 - thumbfortrump
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I can't wait to see Brexit supporters call for a free trade agreement. The hypocrisy.
#120443 to #120291 - pebar
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there's no contradiction
#120450 to #120443 - anon id: 32036696
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Are you actually being serious.
#120340 to #120291 - anon id: c41a2372
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There is no hypocrisy in that what so ever.
User avatar #120282 to #120265 - figatron
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Low or nonexistent tarriffs was literally the only good thing about the EU. Since Britain wasn't stupid enough to give up its currency, they stand to benefit very little from leaving. And even in the EU Britain could just laugh at anything the EU wanted to do that Britain didn't want. If they don't try to keep free trade, Brexit would hurt much more than it could help. I don't think the EU should exist but that issue isn't on the table at the moment. That's why I can't make up my mind on Brexit. If it were Germany or France I'd be all for it.
User avatar #120277 to #120265 - redandgreen
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I think it will bounce back again somewhat but remain below where it was - I guess it's been based on a bet that Brexit wouldn't happen and this is the correction.

It'll probably dive again as negotiations begin.
User avatar #120271 to #120265 - drastronomy
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The pound dropping is not due to free trade lol

Its due to globalist investors trowing a hissyfit when the results are not in their favour no matter how much lobbyist money they throw at it
User avatar #120281 to #120271 - figatron
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Currencies and stocks tend to plummet following big changes, good or bad. Investors don't like volatility which stems from change. But they'll get over it in time. It's economic success will be measurable in months or years, immediate market reactions can largely be ignored
User avatar #120286 to #120281 - drastronomy
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Yup. Like i said. This has nothing to do with EU or its policies, as >>#120265 claims
#120274 to #120271 - pebar
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the exchange rate is the lynch pin of free trade and it significantly influenced by capital flows which is influenced by domestic investment opportunities

net capital outflow = net exports
User avatar #120275 to #120274 - drastronomy
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Duh

but notice that it is still the fucking morning and that NO POLICIES have changed since the results were announced. GB is effectively still in the EU till they formally leave and abandon whatever agreements they had come to. This remains to be done

If this was independent of globalist effect, we would see the effect in a few weeks, not immediately like this. This is purely due to cucked globalist investors.
User avatar #120276 to #120275 - pebar
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people exist independent of government

governments don't need to change for peoples behavior to change
User avatar #120278 to #120276 - drastronomy
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Thats my point
"People" (read: big bankers and malicious pseudo-oligarchs) are causing the effect, no policy. This is not due to the leaving of the EU and hence nothing to do with free trade, it is due to shitty investors. Any effect due to free trade would not be as immediate. Furthermore, free trade can very easily be maintained nowadays even w/o EU. Just look at norway and switzerland.
User avatar #120279 to #120278 - pebar
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one of the greatest benefits of the free market is that it is very adaptable to changing conditions
this is how it works

what's happened was to be expected
User avatar #120285 to #120279 - drastronomy
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Guess what faggot
By leaving the EU, the markets are becoming freer. Less regulation. Less retarded laws. Less subsidies. Less taxes. Trade performance will likely be just as decent as it has been before.
User avatar #120270 to #120265 - klowserpok
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Without the eurocrats in the way, Britains government will be free to make far more trade deals though
User avatar #120269 to #120265 - kanadetenshi
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The EU will continue making deals with the UK, they can't afford not to. Plus now they're in a much better position to negotiate with emerging markets like Switzerland and Norway do.

The stock market drop isn't that surprising since market trends tend to go wild during moments of uncertainty, but they usually adjust pretty quickly.
#120262 - pebar
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so many new people
User avatar #120264 to #120262 - averagewhitekid
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I barely every post here, but I check regularly
Seeing the UK actually winning has gotten me excited enough to post
User avatar #120263 to #120262 - squalllionhart
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it's like vgb during E3
we'll be gone when this is all over
User avatar #120266 to #120263 - pebar
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normies get out
REEEEEE
User avatar #120267 to #120266 - squalllionhart
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yeah pretty much
#120260 - averagewhitekid
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ITS OVER
ITS ALL OVER
Thank you UK for showing politicians and the media that calling people racists doesn't win you votes
GG
User avatar #120261 to #120260 - squalllionhart
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i'm just glad someone over there is doing something
User avatar #120258 - Zaxplab
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Congrats, Britain. Or not congrats, I don't know the science behind it.