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#107884 - mayorman
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(02/26/2016) [-]
hello. i have to make a short essay with a theme of my own..choice.choosing?..i decide what i will write about. i have decided to write about 9/11. this is the part where you guys come in. i want you to hit me with as many links to related stuff. everything from theories about how it all was the government. "jet fuel can't melt steel beams. that sorta stuff...and of course stuff like what country/ies did America invade afterwards and stuff about bush...if it's not too much to ask. thank you for your time
#107896 to #107884 - EdwardNigma
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(02/26/2016) [-]
You should write about Constantine the Fuck-Eyed instead.
#107890 to #107884 - pebar
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(02/26/2016) [-]
For the undying 911 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT how steel does NOT have to melt in order to becomes structurally unsound
#107891 to #107890 - thumbfortrump
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(02/26/2016) [-]
nono, this is wrong, and let this truther tell you why
#107886 to #107884 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
GIF
9/11 was an authoritarian wet dream come true. It justified police states by falsely fighting "terrorism".

Never forget the 3000 :^)
#107889 to #107886 - pebar
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(02/26/2016) [-]
WTC 7 had a skyscraper fall on top of it, you dip
#107876 - thumbfortrump
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Only unsuccessful, lazy poor people would ever vote left.
#107882 to #107876 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
W E W
#107892 to #107882 - pebar
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>>#107876, >>#107885, for total government spending, this isn't surprising

Old people like to live in red states since the cost of living is sooo much lower than blue states. Old people get social security and medicare payments, a substantial portion of of the federal budget.
Defense spending on military goods will go to the states that have military industries
Agriculture is subsidized into the sky. If a state is know for farming, it will get federal funding.

this isn't just about welfare for the poot
#107885 to #107882 - thereasonableperso
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>CNN
Well this statistic is garbage.
#107888 to #107885 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Republicans din do nuffin

W E W
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#107981 to #107887 - anon
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(02/27/2016) [-]
It's weird how states with the most niggers and spics have federal depence
#107880 to #107876 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Nervous?
#107873 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
American "Nationalism" Doesn't Exist.

American "Culture" Is A Judeo-Masonic Illusion.

Only Europeans Can Have Nationalism, Only Europe Has Culture Worth Fighting For.
#107897 to #107873 - asotil
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Then why are they bending over and letting it be taken from them?
#107874 to #107873 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Judeo-Masonic "Founding Fathers" Of America.
#107883 to #107874 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Everyone knows america was founded by jews.
#107870 - thumbfortrump
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(02/26/2016) [-]
#107871 to #107853 - thumbfortrump
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Too bad he didn't get to sell US to China this time.
#107858 to #107853 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Can you recommend me any books on right leaning economics or stock investments (not day trading - I've tried that before). I'm about to buy a good amount of books ranging from trading to economics to politics to history.
#107859 to #107858 - pebar
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(02/26/2016) [-]
free to choose by milton friedman, first and foremost
the housing boom and bust by thomas sowell is really good and you might learn a bit about financial markets

but for actual stock investment management, probably an actual textbook
my uni uses this one for the investments course
www.amazon.com/Essentials-Investments-9th-Zvi-Bodi
#107923 to #107859 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Do you recommend me Buying Road to Serfdom and also Capitalism & Freedom? Obviously major books but are they read-able?
#107935 to #107923 - pebar
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(02/26/2016) [-]
free to choose is more like an expanded version of capitalism and freedom, so there wouldn't be much extra info
both free to choose and capitalism and freedom are very readable

I haven't read road to serfdom so I don't have 1st hand experience but I've heard it's really good
#107849 - canyou
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Who's winning the debate? I can't watch the livestream right now. I'm seeing people say Rubio roasted Trump.
#107852 to #107849 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Trump won. He deflected Cruz and Rubio's arguments pretty well.
#107854 to #107852 - canyou
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Alright. Did Rubio and Cruz attack each other again or did they finally start focusing on Trump?
#107857 to #107854 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
It was mainly Trump-focused I think.
#107860 to #107857 - canyou
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(02/26/2016) [-]
About time
#107840 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Can someone explain in dumb dumb terms what the EU referendum means and why it's happening?
also what happens if the UK leaves the EU?
#107863 to #107840 - lotengo
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(02/26/2016) [-]
If the UK leaves the EU, the EU will be dead in a few years.
#107907 to #107863 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
But why would the EU die?
what would happen to the UK?
would it become weaker or stronger?
#107924 to #107907 - lotengo
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Because if UK gets out somebody had got to pick up their part of the Greece bottomless pit tab.
After that France, the Netherlands or Austria get out. Etc etc etc. It will be over soon
#107927 to #107924 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
oh that makes sense, basically if they leave the EU, the UK won't have to pay anything to them.

oh boy, It looks like we're in for a wild ride.
#107838 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>/pol/ ironclad supports Trump
>"I am a very close friend of Israel" --Donald Trump, Republican Debate
>/pol/ supports Israel by association

gg no re
#107842 to #107838 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
my bad, it was "I have very close ties to israel"
#107839 to #107838 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
mfw all 3 competing for hardest shilling for my birthland
#107875 to #107839 - alimais
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Ayyy lulz, that u ?
#107902 to #107875 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Yes
#107826 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
INSURANCE COMPANIES
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#107827 to #107826 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
HOLY SHIT RUBIO JUST OWNED TRUMP

wow that was beat, BEAST
#107832 to #107827 - thereasonableperso
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I didn't catch it. what happened?
#107834 to #107832 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Rubio said Trump's repeats the same thing he says all the time, just like Christie accused Rubio of doing.

Then Rubio goes through this fingers and says all the typical things Trump repeats
"We will win win win"
"We will make america great again"
"Look at the polls I'm doing great"
ect
It was pretty funny, you'll see it in the highlights later
#107828 to #107827 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
It was funny, but I wouldn't say he owned him. That was pretty lame.

"This is what I just got busted for. Let me try it on Trump!"
#107829 to #107828 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Well, doing it to anybody would have been lame. Rubio has been repeating himself the whole debate anyway.
#107830 to #107829 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I'm not saying this will hurt Trump, I just think that was a funny burn.
#107831 to #107830 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
The 5 finger repeat line
#107833 to #107831 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Yeah, it was hilarious. I just think that people are going to remember that literally the same thing happened to him, and he even just paraphrased with Christie said.
#107835 to #107833 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Trump's weakness is being shown in this debate, not that it will hurt him but he doesn't actually have plans. He is very bland, and refuses to specify anything.
#107836 to #107835 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
What has there really been to specify so far...?
#107837 to #107836 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Health care plan refused to
What he would do with the insurance companies
Something else but I completely forgot
#107862 to #107837 - shyyguy
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>>#107837, The biggest blunder in my opinion was when he was asked (paraphrasing) how he would get Mexico to pay for the wall, and if he couldn't how would he get the necessary funds. He really only said "Oh believe me, Mexico will pay for it. And the wall will be ten feet higher than before."

The audience cheered, even though he blatantly dodged the question. I payed more attention to Trump this debate, and he usually ends up either attacking other candidates Not that Marco or Rubio don't or using hype words like "Build a wall" or "make America great". I didn't notice him going into specifics like some of the other candidates.
#107841 to #107837 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
So, literally one subject.

Besides, nobody cares about specifics. That's why he talks the way he does. Look at how Ben Carson and Kasich are doing. They're very specific, and they're the lowest two candidates in the polls on the stage. They're so specific that you can't pay attention.
#107843 to #107841 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I think that's a really weak argument. Having an actual plan means having an actual argument, Trump plays the easy game of abstractness, you have no idea what he actually plans to do.

His health plan is extremely abstract, he says no one will be left on the street and he won't allow it but he won't use government. I actually want to see Trump's real health plan because he jumps left and right. I will love him more when he releases his plans just like he did with his tax plan.
#107844 to #107843 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
When he tries, people speak over him, and you make posts about how gets owned.

There are going to be areas where a candidate won't have specifics. There's a reason that they have cabinets and all that. The president's job isn't to know everything. It's to get the job done.
#107845 to #107844 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>When he tries, people speak over him, and you make posts about how gets owned.
Ok now you are blatantly lying, please stop the BS. You can love Trump as much I do if not far more, but don't hide from the truth. Many of his plans are very general, substance-less and not written in stone.
#107846 to #107845 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Blatant lies? >>#107827 It happened right there. When he tries to talk, he gets interrupted, and you eat it up.

He doesn't go into specifics on a lot of things, but do you think that he has no idea? He's been talking about politics for a long time. It's not like he just jumped in without a clue.

As I said, nobody cares about specifics. It's too complicated and boring for people to listen to, and, even having that considered, you had only one topic that he didn't give specifics for, and you conveniently forgot the other.
#107847 to #107846 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I'll bring up the others when I remember them.

>He doesn't go into specifics on a lot of things, but do you think that he has no idea?
Yes.

>As I said, nobody cares about specifics
Non-argument. I don't care if they care about specifics, I'm calling a spade a spade even if its a loosing one or winning one.

> It happened right there. When he tries to talk, he gets interrupted, and you eat it up
No he was literally repeating the same general statements about insurance. Can't lie to me since I'm watching it.

#107848 to #107847 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>I'll bring up the others when I remember them. 

Go ahead, but you've already proven my point. It obviously wasn't a huge enough issue for you to recollect it.

>Yes.

Then you're delusional.

>Non-argument. I don't care if they care about specifics, I'm calling a spade a spade even if its a loosing one or winning one. 

"I love Trump."
-makes a Trump-themed account-
"Trump sucks."
"I love Cruz."
"Trump isn't specific."
"I don't care about specifics."

I'm not calling for anything. You just flip flopped. I'm not backing down when you're wrong.

>No he was literally repeating the same general statements about insurance. Can't lie to me since I'm watching it. 

Yeah, he was. It's a trap. If you're arguing, and someone calls you out for repetition, you're going to start repeating more. It's hard not to. It catches you off guard, so you keep going back to your point. Regardless, I never lied. Most of the time that he tried to talk, Rubio and Cruz kept interrupting. If you're still arguing that, you must have been taking naps during the debate. It happened far too often.
#107850 to #107848 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>Then you're delusional.

No its pretty obvious, if Trump knew what he was talking about, he would simply say it then. But he doesn't, therefore he doesn't know and should be educated and release an actual plan.

>"I love Trump." -makes a Trump-themed account- "Trump sucks." "I love Cruz.""Trump isn't specific." "I don't care about specifics."

What a stupid ad hom attack, a) I never said Trump sucks nor do I hate him, he is my meme god but I at least recognize his flaws unlike you. You're delusional if you can't realize his flaws b) I've always loved Cruz too, I just liked Trump more, now its debatable c) I do care about specifics, I don't understand how you can just lie about that when I just told you I want to know the specifics of his plans. You are blatently lying dood. Get your shit together.

> If you're arguing, and someone calls you out for repetition, you're going to start repeating more
He was called on repeating because he repeated before Rubio called on him. And Trump does repeat all the time, that's a fact. In this case he was doing it because he couldn't get into specifics so he had to keep preaching the same thing. Again, you can love Trump but be factual and impartial about what actually happens. Stop ball-washing, jeez.

#107855 to #107850 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>No its pretty obvious, if Trump knew what he was talking about, he would simply say it then. But he doesn't, therefore he doesn't know and should be educated and release an actual plan. 

No, you don't go onto these politics talk shows frequently and give your input and then just suddenly enter the race without a clue. You supported him for a long time before you flopped. If it mattered as much as you are making it out to be, he wouldn't be leading by so much. As I've said, being a president is not about being specific. You need to have ideas, which he has. A president also needs people to help him put forth these ideas. The way you're talking is though he should be running the country by himself.

>What a stupid ad hom attack, a) I never said Trump sucks nor do I hate him, he is my meme god but I at least recognize his flaws unlike you. You're delusional if you can't realize his flaws b) I've always loved Cruz too, I just liked Trump more, now its debatable c) I do care about specifics, I don't understand how you can just lie about that when I just told you I want to know the specifics of his plans. You are blatently lying dood. Get your shit together. 

It's not stupid. You're now going on about how he's not fit to be president, and having memes is a retarded reason to like someone. You jut showed off some illiteracy in this one as well. Everybody has flaws. You're trying to paint the perfect candidate, but it doesn't exist. The only person's flaws that I brought up were Rubio's. My side of the argument had nothing to do with flaws. You pointed out ideas, and I told you how they're silly. If you liked Trump as much as you claim, you wouldn't be chopping him down at the knees. I like Cruz, too, but nowhere nearly as much as I do Trump, and you don't see me talking about his flaws, which do shine, by the way. You kept going on about how important the specifics are, and I said that nobody cares about it. You said that you don't care if they care about them, and then you tried to drop it. You haven't backed out of the argument. You backed out of that specific one. If I gave you two minutes to be very specific about your ideas, no one would listen, and you'd probably never finish. You have to be interesting and efficient. Once again, I didn't lie about anything. Feel free to read the argument again.

> If you're arguing, and someone calls you out for repetition, you're going to start repeating more 
He was called on repeating because he repeated before Rubio called on him. And Trump does repeat all the time, that's a fact. In this case he was doing it because he couldn't get into specifics so he had to keep preaching the same thing. Again, you can love Trump but be factual and impartial about what actually happens. Stop ball-washing, jeez. 

I never said that he didn't do that. Rubio literally did the same exact thing. I was referring to that line, "He's doing it again." It was very similar to Christie's line, "There it is. The 25 second speech. There it is, everybody." Reiteration isn't the issue. Trump do repeat himself a lot, and I never sad that he doesn't, but to say that a candidate shouldn't repeat himself I mindboggingly stupid. Are you supposed to bring up a point and never mention it again? He felt that that was all he needed to say. Why he didn't end it earlier was weird to me, and he should have, but you keep copying insults that I've used and then pulling other ones of the air.

I haven't lied once in this conversation, but whatever. You keep complaining about Trump having no substance, but I'm sensing the irony.
#107866 to #107855 - factual
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(02/26/2016) [-]
oh, no you just mentioned me
#107867 to #107866 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I know.
#107864 to #107855 - factual
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(02/26/2016) [-]
it's a fact
#107865 to #107864 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I agree, but I just got tired of arguing because he's gonna block out what he doesn't want to hear.

Thanks for responding to my elktual statement, though. ;)
#107856 to #107855 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
>No, you don't go onto these politics talk shows frequently and give your input and then just suddenly enter the race without a clue. You supported him for a long time before you flopped.
Bringing up me changing my opinion is irrelevant to the issue, nice try. The problem with abstractness is it allows Trump to deflect criticism by jumping around. First he says we can't let people die on the street. But he also says he won't use the government. You can't deny that is a major oxymoron that only exists because we don't know the specifics of Trump's plan. That is a problem.

Response to the next big paragraph:
>Everybody has flaws. You're trying to paint the perfect candidate, but it doesn't exist.

Stupid argument, just because no one is perfect doesn't mean I can't critique them

>. You pointed out ideas, and I told you how they're silly
lol what

>If you liked Trump as much as you claim, you wouldn't be chopping him down at the knees.

Jesus Christ you and fallacious arguments. False dichotomy much. I've critiqued Cruz before too, your newfag is showing.

>You kept going on about how important the specifics are, and I said that nobody cares about it. You said that you don't care if they care about them, and then you tried to drop it.

Uhh no the argument is still going on, obviously I didn't drop it. The only thing I dropped is that I don't care what others are saying, I'm presenting my own point of view. Another non-argument, numbers game is absolutely irrelevant to me. Especially since leftists are retards who make up the majority - there is your numbers game. I guess you must love Clinton too (this is literally your logic).

>If I gave you two minutes to be very specific about your ideas, no one would listen, and you'd probably never finish

I respond to this above, my problem with abstractness is Trump gets to get away with oxymoronic arguing.

>He felt that that was all he needed to say. Why he didn't end it earlier was weird to me, and he should have, but you keep copying insults that I've used and then pulling other ones of the air.

Again I've responded to this. There are inherent problems with holding abstract, substance-less ideas in debates.

>I haven't lied once in this conversation, but whatever. You keep complaining about Trump having no substance, but I'm sensing the irony.
Read my argument above, you lied about me saying Trump sucks. You lied about the series of events. You lied about me being unfair to Trump in my criticism which as I already pointed out is not true. These are lies, I don't expect apologies. I just expect better from you to purposefully mis-characterize me or events. Stop pretending like I'm some crazy Cruz supporter that hates Trump, its a lie and its demonstrably ridicolous and only something a newfag to this board would do.

#107861 to #107856 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
We're going in circles, so I'm just going to end my side here because I want to go to bed, but I do want to clarify on one part.


You said that I lied about you saying that Trump sucks. My quote wasn't intended to be taken literally. It was more about the vibe I was getting, but I did do that weirdly. I didn't mean to cause the misunderstanding.
#107818 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Jeb Bush  Suicide Note Nice Guy  Jeb Bush All Star Jebcore Hurt
Jeb Core: Songs Edition

Btw they finally let me make an account and keep it.
#107872 to #107818 - thumbfortrump
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(02/26/2016) [-]
gz dude
#107815 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I think that this debate his going to hurt Rubio if he keeps acting like this. Any good points he's making are being wiped out by bad manners and his lack of professionalism.
#107822 to #107815 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Did the CNN debate start at 9pm EST?
#107823 to #107822 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I guess. It seems like it's been on forever, though. :')
#107824 to #107823 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
:^ )
#107817 to #107815 - Elk
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(02/26/2016) [-]
And now I'm reminded of Christie's accusation about his memorized speeches. He repeats himself way too much. God, I wish Cruz would start beating him.
#107802 - asotil
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(02/26/2016) [-]
You want a giggle m8s? Republican Debates Snapchat

There's still Bernie supporters there
Their reasons for voting are "Global Warming" and "Equal pay for all jobs"

Also as of checking like an hour ago Trump is beating Cruz in the polls
#107811 to #107802 - anon
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Kys tbh
#107814 to #107804 - redandgreen
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Don't use facts and sources, it just upsets them.
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#107792 - pebar
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(02/26/2016) [-]
The audience of the Ben Shapiro speech is literally being held hostage by leftists
they have all the exits blocked
#107797 to #107792 - anon
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#107794 to #107792 - unforgivensoul
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Is this live?
#107816 to #107788 - canyou
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(02/26/2016) [-]
So what ended up happening? Shitty WiFi messed with my live feed
#107791 to #107788 - thereasonableperso
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(02/25/2016) [-]
The fuck? She wasn't even doing anything, just recording.
#107754 - pebar
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(02/25/2016) [-]
livestream.com/YAF/events/4870270
Ben Shapiro at CSULA

canyou
#107851 to #107754 - Zaxplab
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Good god his voice is annoying.
#107790 to #107754 - canyou
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Oh my god
#107786 to #107754 - thereasonableperso
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Shit is about to erupt.
#107766 to #107755 - redandgreen
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Stream keeps crashing on me
#107756 to #107755 - pebar
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(02/25/2016) [-]
protesters are violent
#107761 to #107756 - redandgreen
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(02/25/2016) [-]
He's getting in to it now
#107760 to #107756 - redandgreen
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Is that the fire alarm?
#107763 to #107760 - pebar
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(02/25/2016) [-]
yes
#107759 to #107756 - redandgreen
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(02/25/2016) [-]
He seems to be talking about what is happening there. What was he invited to talk about before this controversy?
#107762 to #107759 - pebar
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(02/25/2016) [-]
"when diversity becomes a problem" i believe is the title of his speech
#107764 to #107762 - redandgreen
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Sorry, I didn't see that but he started now.
#107752 - Zaxplab
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Do democrats even HAVE a choice in their primaries with the Superdelegates thing?
#107751 - theism
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(02/25/2016) [-]
It's fascinating that people feel the head of a major real estate company will be inherently less corrupt than any other politician.
#107800 to #107751 - marinepenguin
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(02/26/2016) [-]
What's fascinating is that you believe the head of a real estate company will have as much power as any given senator, governor, or representative.

Muh ebil corporations
#107801 to #107800 - theism
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(02/26/2016) [-]
What implies that?
#107806 to #107801 - marinepenguin
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(02/26/2016) [-]
You always seem to compare the two, as if they're somehow related. Neither positions are inherently corrupt, but any position of power will attract bad human beings. The more powerful the position, the greater likelihood of corruption.

The power of your average CEO or board of directors, is far far less than that of a corrupt group of politicians. Uber billionaires I would maybe agree with.
#107812 to #107806 - redandgreen
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Trump is a billionaire who wants to be President.... Does that make him appallingly corrupt in your eyes?
#107821 to #107812 - marinepenguin
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Not necessarily. I'm not saying its a scale that you can just tack down as fact, it's just probability. Do I think a billionaire politician would be corrupt? Likely. Do I think Trump himself is corrupt? To a degree.
#107878 to #107821 - redandgreen
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I understand what you mean, I think I misread what you were saying before. I agree with you.
#107807 to #107806 - theism
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(02/26/2016) [-]
So then putting anyone into the presidency is likely to lead to corruption?
#107809 to #107807 - marinepenguin
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(02/26/2016) [-]
I believe so. Which is why power should be distributed in my opinion, not concentrated. A bunch of weak politicians are going to be less corrupt and do less overall damage compared to a few strong corrupt politicians.
#107810 to #107809 - theism
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(02/26/2016) [-]
So then it's ridiculous to argue that trump would be significantly less corrupt than most other candidates?
#107819 to #107810 - marinepenguin
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Not necessarily. The positions aren't inherently corrupt, they're just more likely to be.

Do I think Trump is corrupt? To a degree, yes. Do I think he has some of his own reasons for becoming president? Absolutely.
#107813 to #107810 - redandgreen
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(02/26/2016) [-]
On the scale suggested he'd be MORE corrupt if elected - a billionaire & President.
#107820 to #107813 - marinepenguin
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(02/26/2016) [-]
It'd be more probable, it's not like every political individual or billionaire is unethical or corrupt. It's just that power and money attract unethical and corrupt individuals. But saying that Trump is inherently corrupt because he's a billionaire and a political figure wouldn't be accurate.
#107877 to #107820 - redandgreen
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(02/26/2016) [-]
Yes, I agree. I do think that Trump is corrupt though.
#107787 to #107751 - anon
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Why are you assuming successful business people are as corrupt as government officials?
#107789 to #107787 - theism
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Because they are. It's the same subset of people.
#107730 - thumbfortrump
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(02/25/2016) [-]
What do we do against the surge in avocado-farm related crimes?
#107750 to #107730 - thereasonableperso
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Ban assault-avocados and create avocado-free zones.
#107749 to #107730 - drastronomy ONLINE
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(02/25/2016) [-]
This must be Jeb!'s fault.
#107748 to #107730 - anon
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(02/25/2016) [-]
Ban Avacados, IT'S THE ONLY WAY