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User avatar #38574 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
A hive mind is the collective sharing of minds into a single consciousness, serving and driving the goals of its entire population. As such, individuality in a hive mind is sacrificed for the whole, and its members and resources are assigned tasks according to how to best achieve those goals.
-the snip from an article about The Borg

Does this fit the philosophy of ideal communism? I never really got an answer last time
User avatar #38664 to #38574 - oxan (07/01/2013) [-]
Communism is all about expressing your individuality, pebar. Class consciousness doesn't mean a single consciousness, it just means being aware of your relationship to the mode of production and means of production.
User avatar #38575 to #38574 - pebar (07/01/2013) [-]
Oxan, I summon thee
#38580 to #38575 - anonymous (07/01/2013) [-]
YOU HAVE INSTEAD SUMMONED

FAT BEN'S POOP
#38586 to #38581 - anonymous (07/01/2013) [-]
FAT BEN'S POOP IS ALREADY IN THE SHADOW. IT IS ALSO IN THE LIGHT.

FAT BEN'S POOP IS EVERYWHERE.
#38591 to #38586 - undeadwill (07/01/2013) [-]
I banish thee!
#38593 to #38591 - anonymous (07/01/2013) [-]
PFFT! THAT'S NOTHING!

ww​w.theregister.c​o.u​k/2007/03/26/biggest_convenience/

MEET FAT BEN'S TOILET!
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User avatar #38543 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
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Master race asperger syndrome reporting in.
User avatar #38578 to #38543 - Shiny ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
Asperger's is now just autism (level 1, very high functioning).

Also, a lot of those people are just speculated to have some form of autism. I hate it when people act like having mental conditions makes them superior; I've been diagnosed myself, but know damn well that in the real world, it's mostly a liability.
User avatar #38583 to #38578 - undeadwill (07/01/2013) [-]
I have it too.
User avatar #38584 to #38583 - Shiny ONLINE (07/01/2013) [-]
I know. My mind is far more fucked than my autism, though, so I don't pay it much mind.
User avatar #38587 to #38584 - undeadwill (07/01/2013) [-]
Mine is fun.
#38582 to #38578 - anonymous (07/01/2013) [-]
Some people will simply use any excuse they can for unwarranted pride or feelings of superiority while saying that anyone outside of their group is a bigot with no sense of understanding.
User avatar #38541 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Why do American socialists think that corporations run everything and that private property only belongs to the rich?
User avatar #38669 to #38541 - oxan (07/01/2013) [-]
Because they do, and because they're probably simplifying things.
User avatar #38691 to #38669 - undeadwill (07/01/2013) [-]
So they are wrong?
User avatar #38791 to #38691 - oxan (07/02/2013) [-]
In what regards?
User avatar #38798 to #38796 - oxan (07/02/2013) [-]
Well, corporations - or more accurately 'the bourgeoisie' - do run everything, and while those that own private property are richer than a lot of people, they're not necessarily 'rich'.
#38544 to #38541 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Just call them the new left, or democratic socialists, or revisionists. And probably because corporations and members of corporate bodies seem to hold a large amount of appointed positions not to mention all those banks and buisnesses throwing money at the 2 main parties, legalized corruption thank you, no idea about the last part, the new left is a wonder which I'm surprised is still alive.
User avatar #38545 to #38544 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
How come?
#38546 to #38545 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Well the thing is there seems to be this cycle in capitalist systems where over time you degenerate from free market to corporatist state, you're slowly getting there and it's way beyond your control. I've written this before I'll dig it up.. thought odds are by the time I find it I could've written it again..
User avatar #38547 to #38546 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
No why are you surprised the new left is still alive?
#38548 to #38547 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Because they merely bastardized everything and made it more socially acceptable and more PC, and in doing so made themselves slaves to very system they wish to destroy, you can't reform a capitalist system in a socialist system.
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User avatar #38670 to #38553 - oxan (07/01/2013) [-]
The New Left only cares about identity politics.
User avatar #38536 to #38532 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
YFW Romney had healthcare in his state.

Libertarian master race reporting in.
#38538 to #38536 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
YFW he didn't mention Romney once. Also, YFW no face.
Not disputing Libertarian master race status.
User avatar #38539 to #38538 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Just pointing republicans socialize healthcare all the same.
#38542 to #38539 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
Some do. And I hope they get killed in primary challenges. Though I don't know if you heard but radio host Mark Levin and Sarah Palin have both said recently that if the republican leadership, mainly people like McCain and Lindsey Graham and the Bush dynasty, doesn't stop treating conservatives, constitutionalists, and libertarians like shit, we will be forced to pursue other means and they will be left in the dust.

here's a link:
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#38540 to #38539 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
those republicans are spies for the communists
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#38585 to #38558 - undeadwill (07/01/2013) [-]
We can't enjoy people talking how they can't enjoy movies now to political cartoons that make references to films now?
#38571 to #38558 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
WE CAN'T ENJOY FAT BEN'S POOP NOW?
User avatar #38528 to #38467 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Avatar was a movie about a different species, culture, and planet. They were suffering because the military was using force to steal their lands for the wealth it had. Had they found a peaceful solution like oh I don't know using the millions of years of advance technology to use advanced mining techniques to mine the resources without destabilizing the region or drilling straight down.

I mean they solved cyro freezing an entire army and then traveling across the galaxy. But you can't use the same mining techniques we use today in modern day drilling? Pitiful.
#38526 to #38467 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
The blue aliens in Avatar were uncivilized savages. Are you saying the same could be said about the homeless? I'm not saying I disagree
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User avatar #38487 to #38486 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
There you go, friend.
User avatar #38469 to #38467 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
What I found interesting is how they determine unemployment. Part of the criteria is that you must have been actively searching for a job prior to the answering the unemployment survey. The unemployment rate, then, consists of individuals who are actually looking for work.
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User avatar #38471 to #38463 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
I doubt it.
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User avatar #38529 to #38472 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Oh jew.
Always trying to cheer us up.
User avatar #38473 to #38472 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
Just trying to bring us all together to recognise our similarities? Oh you...
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#38466 to #38465 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Oh, purge then.
User avatar #38468 to #38466 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
Holy shit, yes. That pic.
User avatar #38530 to #38468 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Even I like it.
#38453 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
I have a question: how many of this board's users are registered with a political party?

Just curious.

Pic unrelated, but it's a nice picture.
#38573 to #38453 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
I'M REGISTERED WITH THE FAT BEN'S POOP PARTY
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User avatar #38475 to #38474 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
>Ideology Trotskyism

I knew it. Ha!
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#38520 to #38476 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
You could be a capitalist instead...
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#38522 to #38521 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
But instead of class struggle, you'll make lots of money.
User avatar #38477 to #38476 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
Are you sure PCP - honestly, really? - isn't for you? ^.^
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User avatar #38479 to #38478 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
>2bolshevik4me

b-but... Bolshevism-Leninism attempts to portray itself as the most Bolshevik... So does M-L.
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#38455 to #38453 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Hmm, I'm a communist party member but I don't vote very often mostly because I think we should just be using bullets to get the message across rather then ballots who have dead people voting.
User avatar #38457 to #38455 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
How long have you been a member?
#38458 to #38457 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Since around 2008/9, I was pretty politically apathetic before that.
User avatar #38443 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
Let's say hypothetically the government is completely honest and always keeps its promises

would you be willing to tolerate cameras nearly everywhere (cept insides houses) in exchange for absolute gun rights (not including explosives like grenade launchers) and the gov promised never to infringe on these rights
User avatar #38525 to #38443 - Zarke (06/30/2013) [-]
Here's a solution:
Use those guns to shoot the cameras and scare off the repair crews.
User avatar #38448 to #38443 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
Well, no, because there's other rights they'd still be free to infringe on. Unless they promised to never infringe on those rights, either.
#38434 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
Do you think it might be in the best interest of some Latin American nations to legalize recreational drug use?
User avatar #38444 to #38434 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
considering how integrated the cartels are, it might get... messy... if competition starts to appear
#38436 to #38434 - rety (06/30/2013) [-]
yeah, the power base of the cartels needs to be disrupted, and illicit drugs are the base.
If drugs are legalized and controlled via government, that'd put a real big fire in the cartel's wallet.
#38432 - hadrian (06/30/2013) [-]
Enlarge to read
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#38437 to #38432 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
I don't think you can argue that democrats are socially liberal anymore. With the expanded use of the surveillance state and the Patriot Act, military interventionism, cronyism to corporations that fund them and support their interests and intervention in religion by means of health care policy. They are just plain statist now.
User avatar #38439 to #38437 - hadrian (06/30/2013) [-]
You might be right, in which case the Democrats would no longer be on the left.
User avatar #38454 to #38439 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
The Democrats were, at best, barely on the Left.

Also:
>Using eminent domain for private gain

What the fuck is that shit? Do the Democrats seriously do that shit?
#38549 to #38454 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
Yup, and the worst part is the people get shit compensation when affected by eminent domain.
User avatar #38531 to #38454 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Yup.
I've seen it too.
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#38441 to #38439 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
*for a libertarian
#38440 to #38439 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
Also, you're username might be a bit ironic
#38401 - heyhowsitgoin (06/30/2013) [-]
Increased spending to improve the economy in an industrialized and modern nation-state. Ye or Nay + reasons why.
User avatar #38449 to #38401 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
Yes. Obviously, not throwing money at things and hoping they work, but well thought out programs. It's essentially what Australia did, but the government was on the border of going overboard (and maybe jumped over a couple of times), and the Australian economy is probably one of the strongest in the world right now.
User avatar #38535 to #38449 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
And if they fail?
User avatar #38663 to #38535 - oxan (07/01/2013) [-]
Like austerity?
User avatar #38692 to #38663 - undeadwill (07/01/2013) [-]
*Shrug*
User avatar #38554 to #38535 - akkere (06/30/2013) [-]
There's no guarantee it will always succeed, that's why you put the effort in ensuring the plan you're putting the dollar on is thought-out from the barebones and onward.

Just simply throwing your hands up and letting the economy fall into the total hands of the private sector doesn't work if they themselves don't handle themselves properly. That's what Hoover did where he just gave money to businesses hoping they'd save America from the Great Depression, and that did nothing.

There has to be a balance between private and public sector for the economy to make true advancement.
User avatar #38556 to #38554 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Or remove the main cause of inflation.
User avatar #38557 to #38556 - akkere (06/30/2013) [-]
How does that change the balance of spending?

Also, controlling inflation and deflation is something that's somewhat a necessity because it maintains the demand for our exports. If it's too deflated, not too many nations wish to buy our products, and if it's too inflated, we can't buy our own products or other nations products.
Balance.
#38433 to #38401 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
Spending for the sake of spending doesn't help anyone.
User avatar #38429 to #38401 - Shiny ONLINE (06/30/2013) [-]
Depends. You shouldn't just blindly pump money into the economy with hopes that it will magically work, but it can be necessary to improve the social aspect of the nation before the economic aspect can heal.
#38428 to #38401 - rety (06/30/2013) [-]
no, the invisible hand works fine, and is meant to work w/o government influence
User avatar #38411 to #38401 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
No. Economy and the state should be separate.
User avatar #38407 to #38401 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
or
or...
or........
quit taxing people to death and let them spend their own money
User avatar #38402 to #38401 - byposted (06/30/2013) [-]
Most countries could not sustain massive state spending for their economies. Obammy can because of his Jewish and Chinese friends who print and loan respectively, so the more power to him.
User avatar #38403 to #38402 - byposted (06/30/2013) [-]
Why should we stop him from destroying this country?
#38552 to #38403 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
Because I'd rather have the country be destroyed from the outside than from within by the cancer we call "statist social democracy."
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User avatar #38397 to #38395 - byposted (06/30/2013) [-]
G-d bless the Islamic Worker's Security Agency for not arresting the leftist freedom fighter at 40 seconds; that would have been very bigoted. The Principality shows itself to be at the top of progressive countries yet again.
#38399 to #38397 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
this is very unlike you...
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#38388 - anonymous (06/29/2013) [-]
The bigger the government, the smaller the people. Eventually the people become ants for the government to step on.
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#38391 to #38388 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
fascism & corrupt socialism in a nutshell
User avatar #38387 - undeadwill (06/29/2013) [-]
Solutions on lower costs of healthcare and higher education?
#38456 to #38387 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Higher education is seriously inflated in value there's some pretty useless degrees out there, make more practical alternatives such as speciallly training for certain roles at a college (I've heard they do women's studies in the US), sure it's nice to have people knowledgeable in cultures but it isn't practical subsidize certain core subjects; (Your sciences medicine , engineering, military staff etc).

Healthcare is also incredibly inflated in terms of what you're getting, thanks to the nice big pharma you've got going as well as the fact the government is limiting the amount of medical staff to ensure it remains profitable, so basically end the artificial scarcity I'd personally drop all (excess) liabilities on doctors because it's just driving prices up, you know you could solve a lot of this by nationalizing and taking a lot of the profit motive out of healthcare.
User avatar #38494 to #38456 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
That could also lower the quality of care and drive up taxes when our government has no money to spend.
#38501 to #38494 - valeriya (06/30/2013) [-]
Depending on how bureaucratic and lazy your government is, I know in the Ussr we had the most medical staff and doctors per cap the world, not sure if we still do. The British have a system here where common illnesses and injuries are covered the thing is in America you pay the most into healthcare anywhere in the world, and it's shit in comparison to the rest of the developed world because your government doesn't actually have the ability to do anything., it does benefit employers as well a healthy worker is a lot more productive , it really depends on how the government does it, in your case so far it's been forcing companies to insure people or picking up gap in the market of said company which you are helping to line their pockets by keeping x amount of the potential workforce out.
User avatar #38511 to #38501 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Anything our government does benefits corporations so even if we socialize it. Behind healthcare all over the world is our pharmaceutical companies.
#38435 to #38387 - repostsrepost (06/30/2013) [-]
For education, have market level interest rates for student loans. You might say people who can't afford it wouldn't be able to go to college, but that's kinda the point. For health care, I've been toying with the idea of eliminating insurance altogether. It would lower overhead for doctors greatly and give doctors more flexibility in their practices and payment plans.
User avatar #38438 to #38435 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
basically what I would do.
User avatar #38392 to #38387 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
tort reform ONLY FOR HOSPITALS
it's a very unethical solution but it may be necessary
User avatar #38404 to #38392 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Tort reform?
User avatar #38408 to #38404 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
cap on damages from lawsuits
User avatar #38409 to #38408 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
I'd say the same.
User avatar #38410 to #38409 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
have you seen the documentary "hot coffee"?
User avatar #38412 to #38410 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
No. What is it about?
User avatar #38413 to #38412 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
It's about the impact of tort reform. It's biased but it's pretty good.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Coffee_(film)
User avatar #38414 to #38413 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
I know what next movie night is.
#38416 to #38414 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
it's from the point of view of democrats
User avatar #38417 to #38416 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Fuck.
Is it what I expect it will be?
User avatar #38419 to #38417 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
it's against tort reform
but it's still a really good documentary and you should still have it for movie night. It gets you to think about the issue.
User avatar #38420 to #38419 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Why is it against reform?
User avatar #38421 to #38420 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
It let's companies get away with very unethical behavior and the victims cannot get the necessary compensation. I think it also has to do with mandatory arbitration due to fine print in contracts that forbid you from taking the company to court. Because of this the arbitration almost always rules in favor of the company.

Let's just watch it and see what everyone thinks.
User avatar #38423 to #38422 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
I did say it was pretty biased
User avatar #38425 to #38423 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
I hate democrats.
User avatar #38427 to #38426 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
I really fucking hate them.
User avatar #38424 to #38423 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Yeah..
User avatar #38384 - undeadwill (06/29/2013) [-]
"The only free things in the world are things that are obtained without the use of force."
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#38382 - anonymous (06/29/2013) [-]
Why do many moderate pro-lifers condone abortion in cases of incest? I never quite understood this.
#38389 to #38382 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
I've never understand that either... a life is a life.
#38386 to #38382 - anonymous (06/29/2013) [-]
Because inbreeding leads to defects.
#38418 to #38386 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
Is that the only reason?
#38550 to #38418 - anonymous (06/30/2013) [-]
Is there a need for any more reasons?
Why let people inbreed when it greatly increases the likelihood of a child being born with defects that will severely impact the quality of its life?
User avatar #38385 to #38382 - undeadwill (06/29/2013) [-]
Because retard babies+ possible molestation.
User avatar #38390 to #38385 - pebar (06/30/2013) [-]
People claim abortion is murder yet those same people allow it if the circumstances of conception are shameful. If it's really murder then rape/incest shouldn't make a difference.
User avatar #38405 to #38390 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
Indeed. Shouldn't matter.
User avatar #38450 to #38351 - oxan (06/30/2013) [-]
>Stalin was an atheist

You say it like it was a bad thing, Crazy Man.

Also:
>You're not a rational people
>You people ruin the South
User avatar #38499 to #38450 - undeadwill (06/30/2013) [-]
The south is fucking great its the north that all five layers of fuck.

rational people?
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