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#43484 - Major Mayhem (07/31/2013) [-]
What do you believe it would take to tip the U.S. into a second revolution?
User avatar #43941 to #43484 - thatguyontheright ONLINE (08/06/2013) [-]
All Civilization is three meals away from revolution.
User avatar #43658 to #43484 - domitius (08/04/2013) [-]
Won't happen.
User avatar #43503 to #43484 - undeadwill (08/01/2013) [-]
Sheep don't rebel

-Mr. Rose
User avatar #43592 to #43504 - undeadwill (08/02/2013) [-]
User avatar #43501 to #43484 - feelythefeel (08/01/2013) [-]
Probably a drastically lowered standard of living for the proletariat, if I were to hazard a guess.
User avatar #43498 to #43484 - CapnInterwebz (08/01/2013) [-]
That day will only come when everyone understands politics and what the government should be allowed to do.
User avatar #43492 to #43484 - pebar (07/31/2013) [-]
mass gun confiscation attempts
User avatar #43491 to #43484 - oxan (07/31/2013) [-]
The inevitable collapse of the capitalist system.
#43487 to #43484 - anonymous (07/31/2013) [-]
#43485 to #43484 - anonymous (07/31/2013) [-]
Ron paul gets elected.
#43483 - anonymous (07/31/2013) [-]
User avatar #43502 to #43483 - feelythefeel (08/01/2013) [-]
The sad thing is knowing how Kickstarter works, 4,800 is low enough that it actually stands a chance.
#43482 - CapnInterwebz (07/31/2013) [-]
"Those who find comfort in trading liberty for security will quickly find that they have neither."
"Those who find comfort in trading liberty for security will quickly find that they have neither."
#43468 - pebar (07/31/2013) [-]
"the government does not require a member of the public to own or carry a phone... the government merely comes in after the fact and asks a provider to turn over records the provider has already created."
#43477 to #43468 - rety (07/31/2013) [-]
Well people are finally reaping the rewards of shitty politicians.

Yes we scan, eh?
#43466 - oxan (07/31/2013) [-]
You know what I never understood? Why that Menshevik swine Trotsky came to refer to himself as a 'Bolshevik-Leninist'.   
Fuck that guy.   
>mfw Trotskyites
You know what I never understood? Why that Menshevik swine Trotsky came to refer to himself as a 'Bolshevik-Leninist'.

Fuck that guy.

>mfw Trotskyites
User avatar #43646 to #43466 - domitius (08/04/2013) [-]
But was Stalinism true communism?
User avatar #43701 to #43646 - oxan (08/04/2013) [-]
There was never an ideology of 'Stalinism'. It's Liberal rubbish and Trot propaganda.
User avatar #43702 to #43701 - domitius (08/04/2013) [-]
Ok so what ideology did Stalin follow during his leadership?
User avatar #43703 to #43702 - oxan (08/04/2013) [-]

Were there mistakes? Yes. Were there crimes? Yes. But you need to look at the USSR during the Stalin era in historical context.
User avatar #43706 to #43703 - domitius (08/04/2013) [-]
I've done a lot of research on Russian in that era
I just didn't identify it as that because of it's closer alignment to the right
but you are indeed correct
User avatar #43792 to #43706 - oxan (08/05/2013) [-]
Much of Stalin's social policy I disagree with. Criminalisation of homosexuality, for example.

Overall, given its context, Stalin worked well with what he had.
User avatar #43469 to #43466 - jewishcommunazi (07/31/2013) [-]
Probably because Marxist-Leninist was already taken.
#43470 to #43469 - oxan (07/31/2013) [-]
Trotskyites are terrible Leninists.
User avatar #43472 to #43471 - oxan (07/31/2013) [-]
The basis of Trotskyism is that of the petty-bourgeoisie. Trotsky was a brutish opportunist. His theories were refuted time and time again by Lenin.
#43456 - pebar (07/31/2013) [-]
Rand Paul called Chris Christie the "king of bacon" in reference to pork barrel spend but also a brilliant attack on his weight.
User avatar #43481 to #43456 - CapnInterwebz (07/31/2013) [-]
Rand Paul: Hero of America
User avatar #43450 - pebar (07/31/2013) [-]
If you don't vote in the primaries, you don't get to vote in the general election.

User avatar #43461 to #43450 - undeadwill (07/31/2013) [-]
What if we are undecided and don't belong to a single party?
#43453 to #43450 - rety (07/31/2013) [-]
Discussing- I agree, but it should not be government mandated.
User avatar #43448 - medewu (07/31/2013) [-]
KREATOR - Civilization Collapse (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

The day Civilization collapses will be an awesome day!
User avatar #43455 to #43448 - oxan (07/31/2013) [-]
I hate that sort of music.
User avatar #43475 to #43455 - jewishcommunazi (07/31/2013) [-]
At least you might enjoy the lyrics for some of their songs.
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#43451 to #43448 - feelythefeel (07/31/2013) [-]
Only in the sense that a lot of people like you will be dead.
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#43436 to #43435 - anonymous (07/30/2013) [-]
User avatar #43434 - undeadwill (07/30/2013) [-]
Let me see your war face!

God damn it private pyle! : Full metal Jacket You need to login to view this link

Inglorious bastards: You need to login to view this link

Lawrence of Arabia: You need to login to view this link (Little know fact Lawrence was gay,
#44809 to #43434 - kingpinkie (08/12/2013) [-]
hey motherfucker take off shatsmepants and add me
User avatar #44810 to #44809 - undeadwill (08/12/2013) [-]
User avatar #44825 to #44815 - undeadwill (08/12/2013) [-]
ric cur
User avatar #43738 to #43434 - bloodeyes (08/05/2013) [-]
good choices man, loving these nights
User avatar #43740 to #43738 - undeadwill (08/05/2013) [-]
User avatar #43692 to #43434 - undeadwill (08/04/2013) [-]
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There. Forgot it last time.
User avatar #43693 to #43692 - fuckya (08/04/2013) [-]
I'm happy that you use Solarmovie. Thats where i always go.
User avatar #43694 to #43693 - undeadwill (08/04/2013) [-]
Its okay I guess.
#43458 to #43434 - valeriya (07/31/2013) [-]
Also you forgot to name spam.
User avatar #43460 to #43458 - undeadwill (07/31/2013) [-]
Didn't forget just lazy and can't find the comment
User avatar #43462 to #43457 - undeadwill (07/31/2013) [-]
Despite the stereotype of the modern day flamer gay people have had a long history of success in military aspects this is absolutely true. Richard Lion Heart, King James, Salidma (Leader of the Muslims and arch rival of Richard fuck spelling) the 300 Spartans , Alexander the Great
#43398 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
I've been feeling really cynical lately. I'm probably going to vote republican even if the party throws out another hard-right conservative like Ryan. I just don't care anymore if they're forcing a specific set of ethics on people.
I've been feeling really cynical lately. I'm probably going to vote republican even if the party throws out another hard-right conservative like Ryan. I just don't care anymore if they're forcing a specific set of ethics on people.
#43449 to #43398 - repostsrepost (07/31/2013) [-]
Though Ryan has gone hard to the center Nixon-Bush wing of the party since he lost. Either Rand Paul or Ted Cruz got my support. I'm tired of defeatist Bush types who give Democrats 90% of what they want and then talk about the victory of not giving them the last 10%. Karl Rove can go sit on a dick. I'm not saying I won't vote if I don't get my favorite candidate, but I think the people are tired of picking between bad and less bad.
#43437 to #43398 - akkere ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
>Voting for a Party despite any level of extremism
User avatar #43408 to #43398 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
I know how you feel, pebar. No doubt I'll be forced to vote for some reformist party like the Greens unless the CPA presents candidates.
User avatar #43400 to #43398 - feelythefeel (07/30/2013) [-]
I use to be a cynic. Now I'm just hardcore pragmatic. I think I'm happier now.
#43403 to #43400 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
How can you stay pragmatic when everyone else is so fucking retarded that i doesn't even matter what you tell them, to such an extent that everything is bound to fall apart in the near future?
User avatar #43463 to #43403 - undeadwill (07/31/2013) [-]
I found out why we can't reason with these retards.
User avatar #43464 to #43463 - pebar (07/31/2013) [-]
i blame the bandwagon effect
User avatar #43465 to #43464 - undeadwill (07/31/2013) [-]
Its more that the current generation if you yell or try to tell them anything they shut down.
#43411 to #43403 - valeriya (07/30/2013) [-]
Welcome to the club, the deck is stacked so what do you do?
#43418 to #43411 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
I had a dream when I was a kid, I still remember it...   
It's raining giant fireballs and the entire city is in flames, and I'm sitting on a balcony watching and eating waffles...   
I think I'll try that.  Maybe I'm an oracle.
I had a dream when I was a kid, I still remember it...
It's raining giant fireballs and the entire city is in flames, and I'm sitting on a balcony watching and eating waffles...

I think I'll try that. Maybe I'm an oracle.
User avatar #43410 to #43403 - feelythefeel (07/30/2013) [-]
If you're getting the idea that everyone else is retarded, then either you're with the wrong crowd or the crowd is with the wrong you. If it's the first, just find more pleasant company and you'll feel better in no time.
User avatar #43414 to #43410 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
I wonder how many people vote democrat solely because of social issues like gay marriage or abortion.....
User avatar #43417 to #43414 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
Don't blame them, pebar. I'm sure there's a great number of people who vote Republican for the same reason.
User avatar #43420 to #43417 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
If the libertarian party had more publicity, I think it would do very well. There are so many people who claim to be socially liberal but fiscally conservative.
User avatar #43480 to #43420 - undeadwill (07/31/2013) [-]
Exactly why? Because it a beautiful ideals of Freedom.
User avatar #43421 to #43420 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
I doubt it'll ever happen. The two-party system serves the bourgeoisie well.
User avatar #43422 to #43421 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
I can't see how... businesses are hurting when we're stuck like this. When democrats are in charge, business suffer because there are so many regulations and high taxes. When republicans are in charge, society is upset with how culturally stunted they are and people fall back to voting democrat.
User avatar #43424 to #43422 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
It's just the capitalist boom and bust cycle. Nothing new. But both parties are pro-capitalist, that's all that matters. Democrats might want to regulate corporations but regulation transnational corporations is pretty much a dead idea.

Weren't companies making record profits only this decade?
User avatar #43431 to #43424 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
I suppose democrats force companies to give many benefits, including high minimum wage. New small business are unable to give all these benefits so there is less competition. These leaves the real borlesazy to dominate the market and stay in control.
democrats are so stupid
User avatar #43439 to #43431 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
It's to do, primarily, with the separate interests of the bourgeoisie. Their interests aren't all the same. So, as you say, the upper (as in, those who own the TNCs) bourgeoisie might find that the Democrats might help them secure their markets (even if they need to make small sacrifices). The lower bourgeoisie, however, might find that Republicans help them secure their position in the market.

At the same time, the Democrats are considered progressive, which gives an illusion of there being real choices in the two-party system. In reality, both parties serve the bourgeoisie.

Y'know, Demorepublican Party?
#43415 to #43414 - feelythefeel (07/30/2013) [-]
Better than voting Democrat because its candidate is black.
Better than voting Democrat because its candidate is black.
User avatar #43423 to #43415 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
it'll happen again in 2016 when their candidate is female....
#43395 - tredbear (07/30/2013) [-]
why is our government controlled by corporations?
why is our government controlled by corporations?
User avatar #43444 to #43395 - jewishcommunazi (07/31/2013) [-]
Crony capitalism, I guess.
User avatar #43407 to #43395 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
The state is a tool to subjugate one class to the will of another, and the owners of capital want to keep owning capital so they operate the state?
#43416 to #43413 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
Glad to help.   
If you want anything more regarding the Marxist understanding of the state, just google 'Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie' or 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat'.
Glad to help.

If you want anything more regarding the Marxist understanding of the state, just google 'Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie' or 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat'.
#43401 to #43395 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
Lobbying, campaign contributions, advertisements blasting politicians with no debate, people blindly following whatever celebrities say, etc.
#43396 to #43395 - valeriya (07/30/2013) [-]
Who makes up the corporations.
#43397 to #43396 - tredbear (07/30/2013) [-]
fortune 50
fortune 50
#43399 to #43397 - valeriya (07/30/2013) [-]
I was more thinking the bourgeois, why would the bourgeois want to have control over the government?
#43402 to #43399 - feelythefeel (07/30/2013) [-]
Is that a serious question?
Is that a serious question?
#43405 to #43402 - valeriya (07/30/2013) [-]
No not really, I've realized I have to really lead people down the garden path to actually get them to learn or realize something.
User avatar #43406 to #43405 - feelythefeel (07/30/2013) [-]
I see. Good luck, then.
User avatar #43390 - bbboy (07/30/2013) [-]
"Austrialia has a neighbor, his name is New Zealand. But nobody cares about him, he's Canadian"
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User avatar #43393 to #43389 - pebar (07/30/2013) [-]
Liberals in the US aren't real liberals. They're statist social democrats, the opposite of liberalism.
#43433 to #43393 - necroshiz **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
#43419 to #43393 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
I'm never going to get over that moment when the board, seemingly unanimously, agreed to refer to them as social democrats for all eternity.
#43392 to #43389 - anonymous (07/30/2013) [-]
considering that every single politician ever has used an opposing viewpoints name as an insult at one point or another you must be of the god tier when it comes to politics.
#43432 to #43392 - necroshiz **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #43391 to #43389 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
Consveraberal, pls go.
#43388 - CapnInterwebz (07/30/2013) [-]
I'm back! Not like anyone gives a shit.

Anyhow, tomorrow the verdict for Bradley Manning is supposed to be announced. Thoughts?

I think what he did was the right thing, and I would be happy if he was set free, but I think it would be naive to think he wouldn't get punished. Morality aside, he broke a law and is inevitably going to be punished for it.
User avatar #43438 to #43388 - akkere ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Don't know if you tuned in yet, but it looks like he's been pronounced not guilty of the charges regarding "Aiding The Enemy". That's a life sentence he just dodged, so that's more or less a relief.

However, because he pleaded guilty to other charges, he faces a 20 year charge at least. Still, better than a life sentence I suppose.
#43384 - byposted (07/30/2013) [-]
What could drive 15 year old boys to have sex for the first time with old men? If every deviant had such a conversation in their youth, there would be no fag marriage parades.
#43386 to #43384 - byposted (07/30/2013) [-]
Sure thing monkey. Too many fag-apologists in the comments. The Russian one with 4 thumbs is saying that those who appose homosexuals are homosexuals.
#45200 to #43386 - markwho (08/15/2013) [-]
so the picture above of the two guys and the one with his pants down to his ankles where was this pic and want to know a lot more about it please
#43387 to #43386 - byposted (07/30/2013) [-]
You can understand this post by Mr. Diversity without even knowing Spanish.
User avatar #43337 - pebar (07/29/2013) [-]
Total smoking ban: yay or nay?

I'm thinking no. If they want to die, then the gov should let them.
User avatar #43375 to #43337 - undeadwill (07/30/2013) [-]
Ban? No.
Age limits? Yes.
Because if you are going to get a addictive mind altering habit do when you are able to support yourself, your healthcare, and your bad habit. Also allows the minds of the youth to not be altered by this drug and finally producing semi healthy young adults.

But bans do little more than move the markets on to the black market and have you ever seen a smoker without his fix? Imagine him when everyone is trying to arrest him. Yes it has its negative effects but the social economic effects of a ban are far worse.
User avatar #43363 to #43337 - byposted (07/30/2013) [-]
Continue to tax cigarettes higher and higher and encourage negroes and other worthless people to get addicted so that they may fill the state's coffers. Smoking should be phased out from the productive class (middle and upper).

Smoking should not be illegal since it provides nice revenue. Like Oxan said, it takes time, although the task is largely accomplished as of now in 1st world countries. In Russia, smoking is still a big thing.
User avatar #43440 to #43363 - jewishcommunazi (07/30/2013) [-]
"...negroes and other worthless people..."

I'm just going to assume this is a joke.
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User avatar #43360 to #43337 - Shiny ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
I don't care if someone wants to smoke, but there's always a limit. Secondhand smoke is not exactly healthy.

So, no. Fascist idiots.
User avatar #43359 to #43337 - mykoira ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
it's meh for me. if we ban them we lose shit-ton of tax money. it would be good to ban them for healthy reasons, but it would cost shit-ton of money. where i live there is new law that bans buying of smokes for people born after 2004 (or 06 i can't remember) even after they are 18 so it's the first step to ban them.
User avatar #43364 to #43359 - byposted (07/30/2013) [-]
Now the smokers will turn to the black market to get cigarettes that aren't taxed.
User avatar #43358 to #43337 - roliga (07/29/2013) [-]
>more government dick up my ass telling me what to do

Yeah, no fucking thanks.
#43354 to #43337 - repostsrepost (07/29/2013) [-]
I don't smoke cigs and I've never smoked weed, but I enjoy the occasional cigar after a long week at work. I'm not sure what this smoking ban covers or how it would be enforced, but leave us alone to our vices whether its a classy cigar, a pack a day, or being as high as the empire state building. And getting smashed. Alcohol is fun too.
#43346 to #43337 - anonymous (07/29/2013) [-]
Translation: 22% of Americans are totalitarian fuckwads.
User avatar #43338 to #43337 - oxan (07/29/2013) [-]
Eventually, yay. But it has to be a process. An instant ban is counterproductive.
#43327 - roliga (07/29/2013) [-]
So now that detroit has gotten a shovel and has decided to start digging past rock bottom what do you think will happen and who will get blamed?
#43378 to #43327 - feelythefeel (07/30/2013) [-]
Who deserves the blame: The auto industry.
Who will get the blame: Black people and politicians.
Tell me when something changes.
User avatar #43339 to #43327 - oxan (07/29/2013) [-]
One party will blame the other, and /pol/ will blame black people. Few will blame the auto industry that essentially abandoned the city.

Overall, innocent workers and their families will be the ones forced to pay the debts of the capitalist system. Same old, same old.
#43317 - rety (07/29/2013) [-]
Ima just leave this here, I feel like discussing it.
User avatar #43348 to #43317 - oxan (07/29/2013) [-]
I'm not a fan of Islam (but as you all know, I'm not of any religion), but the connection between the state of a country and its Muslim population is a little bit of a stretch. It completely ignores the history of a lot of nations.

Countries like Afghanistan once treated women equally, and wasn't a wartorn shithole. Not pointing fingers, but the US funding radical Islamist extremists certainly didn't help. Good going guys.

The assessment of Islam as a monolithic hivemind is ridiculous.

I'd be more interested in finding out the age variations of the Muslims rioting. I imagine most are youth, would you agree?
#43394 to #43348 - valeriya (07/30/2013) [-]
They're mostly youth with no sense of identity on a national level I find, when it comes to identity in Russia most Muslims identify as Russian before Muslim, then you have places like Chechnya where they have no clear identity, Chechen means very little in terms of identity it hasn't existed clearly defined for long time and the line between Chechen and Muslim is incredibly blurred. 2 cents.
User avatar #43404 to #43394 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
There probably is a degree of a lack of identity, you're right. Especially amongst the children of immigrants. Then among locals who convert, and to a lesser extent the children of immigrants, they find an identity in Islam.

The most simple explanation is angsty youth. I need to read Leninism and the National Question. Nationality is of great interest to me at the moment.
#43409 to #43404 - valeriya (07/30/2013) [-]
I think that's probably the main issue, is that when your religion is your primary identity you're a lot more open to being radicalized whilst at the same time you are also more likely to be active in communities goals, like for example when I was last in Chechnya there weren't just Chechen Muslims there, there were Muslims for all over the world and not just as part of charities, if you're looking for nationality the general idea that was employed by the USSR (And Yugoslavia to a lesser extent) was basically to destroy the idea of nationalities and replace it with a new one, sort of monoculturalism/nationalism just look up the new soviet man.
User avatar #43412 to #43409 - oxan (07/30/2013) [-]
Monoculturalism/nationalism? No, I disagree. There was still high degrees of national autonomy. There's a good book on Muslim women in the USSR, actually. Soviet Women by William Mandel.

Then there was the autonomous region for Jews, etc.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the New Soviet Man was the USSR encouraging a 'melting polt' of culture. Seems to me more like a patriotic thing.
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