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#100724 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
"All you need to know about the middle eastern conflict is that the Jews want peace and the Arabs don't"
If I illegally stole your house and then offered you the basement, would you want peace? I thought I was agreeing with him before he brought the Jews into it.
#100733 to #100724 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
The Israelis and Palestinians will be fighting until the heat death of the universe.
#100732 to #100724 - drastronomy
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I do not get this israel-hate thing. It seems to be the one thing libs and polfags can agree upon.

In my opinion though, israel is the better of the two. Yes, they are at times overly aggressive in their conquest, but consider this:
-Hamas uses civilian areas as bases (thus the civilian casualties)
-They are surrounded by jew-hating countries (egypt, jordan and other countries declared war on them, if you remember - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War )
-They have a proper army, not ragheads doing terroris

#100737 to #100732 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I don't like the Palestinians. But you can't blame someone for getting pissed when you fuck with them, no matter how much of a prick they may be.
#100753 to #100737 - drastronomy
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(12/12/2015) [-]
One can just as easily argue that it was the palestinians that fucked with Israel, and Israel got pissed
#100735 to #100732 - Shiny
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Center-liberals hate Israel because it's "trendy" and because those Jews have their damn white privilege. Personally I don't think they're any different from their neighbors aside from US alliance.
#100725 to #100724 - thumbfortrump
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(12/12/2015) [-]
>Every single country surrounding Israel wants to destroy it, yet Israel is the aggressor.
>Every single country surrounding Israel has much less tolerant than Israel, yet Israel is the intolerant.
>Every single government in the countries surrounding Israel oppress their citizens much, much more, yet Israel is the oppressor.
#100783 to #100725 - akkere
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(12/13/2015) [-]
Israel is technically the aggressor on account of the multiple atrocities they did to take that land in the first place waaaay back in the early 1900s, like displacing people from their homes and slaughtering the ones that refused to leave.
Not saying that justifies Hamas in any way shape or form for the numerous atrocities they do, but this isn't exactly a black 'n' white issue.
#100794 to #100783 - thumbfortrump
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(12/13/2015) [-]
Yes, I can agree that the Israeli settlements are an overstep. And of course Israel can't continue to refer to historical events to justify their actions. But I nevertheless can't stand the "Isreal is evul, Palestinians dindu nuffin" mentality that especially many young people have.
#100810 to #100794 - akkere
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(12/13/2015) [-]
I can definitely understand that. People treating the issue as black 'n' white definitely goes both ways for both the absolute supporters of Palestine as well as those of Israel. It's essential that the issue is recognized for what it is, otherwise the juxtaposing that Hamas and the IDF will simply continue alternating and will only end until one or the other (and their surrounding collateral) is reduced to Stone-Age rubble.
#100726 to #100725 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
1.) If life is so shitty in Israel, why did they conquer Palestine to live there?
2.) They oppress their citizens less because Palestinians aren't citizens.
#100727 to #100726 - thumbfortrump
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(12/12/2015) [-]
>implying Palestinians haven't been given an olive branch several times.

Perhaps if they stop sending missiles at Israel and stop supporting Hamas, Israel will stop treating them like they are.
#100728 to #100727 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Please refer to my original metaphor. If I steal something from you and then offer a fraction of it back, I can't complain when it isn't good enough.
#100729 to #100728 - thumbfortrump
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Funny, I don't see you criticizing Russia's annexation of Crimea.

Anyways, Palestine was never a state. It was no ones land. If jews weren't given the land, there'd be mud huts now where there are skyscrapers.
#100730 to #100729 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I criticize it so long as Russia holds Konigsberg. If you're going to justify conquest with historical claims, don't cling to land you have no historical claim on whatsoever.


Sound familiar?
#100734 to #100730 - thumbfortrump
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I agree, people who justify Israel because they were there 3000 years ago are morons. But I don't believe the current Israel is founded upon conquest, and the civil and economic development there outweighs any claim the Palestines may have. If the arabs didn't try to cast Israel in the ocean throughout half the last century, I would be inclined to criticize Israel as a state. But Israel has, against all odds, come out as the superior nation in every aspect in the Middle east, and for that I believe they deserve the land. I'd much rather have a state there run by jews, than another ISIS factory.
#100740 to #100734 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Thank you for agreeing that the new world belongs to Europeans instead of natives.
#100752 to #100740 - thumbfortrump
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Well, it depends at what time in history the territory was conquered. According to the doctrine of intertemporal law, you have to apply the international legal principles at the time of which the dispute occurs, the so called 'critical date'.
Now, acquisition of territory through conquest has been illegal since 1945, and this rule has status of jus cogens, which means all nations are bound by it. But acquisition through conquest before 1945 is, because of the doctrine of intertemporal law, perfectly legal.
So Americans actually legally own the American territory, not the natives, even though many tend to claim otherwise.
#100711 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Hitler, Mussolini and a jew walk into a bar. When the jew realizes his company, he runs out of the bar screaming "you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"

I feel bad for Pontius Pilate. All he asked was for the Romans to build him a kite.
#100714 to #100711 - pebar
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(12/12/2015) [-]
eh?
#100720 to #100714 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Ask away.
#100710 - alimais
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Ey schnizel, want some easy politics pinkies ?

By The Numbers  - The Untold Story of Muslim Opinions & Demographics
#100712 to #100710 - schnizel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
But muh islamiphibia
#100719 to #100712 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
arabs are whiter than slavs
#100722 to #100719 - thumbfortrump
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Sounds like the words of an arab.
#100690 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
How should we reform our education system and what/how should public schools teach?

Standard test scores?
Leave it more to the states/provinces?
Less tests?
Less mandatory classes or change in mandatory classes?

-lulz
#100771 to #100690 - akkere
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(12/12/2015) [-]
1. Push for parents of pre-school children to have their kids get an early start as possible, and one such that assesses their interests.
Parents should take a more active in their children's education that goes more than just the occasional PTA meeting, and it should start at a very early point.
If children get a head start with equivalents to programs such as Hooked on Phonics and JumpStart, not only will you give kids a head start in academics, you'll be working to foster an interest in the subjects they'll eventually learn in the classroom itself.

2. Develop a dynamic testing system that gives students results to work with.
One of the largest flaws in the test-taking system is the scores are entirely scalar; there's no input to give to students on what categories they do well in and what type of problems they have difficulty with. They can scan through what problems they got wrong, but they're limited to what their own personal interpretation of the problem is. By generating tests based on categories within a given topic and tagging them according to emphasis on qualitative or quantitative analysis, scoring systems can calculate what possible problems a student is facing in their studies and perhaps even give insight on what they can do to improve. Given a few years of this system in place, the test distribution system can analyze trends and common problems among students in separate localities, and advise school districts on how they need to act to ensure students overcome these trending problems. This offers a solution for most, if not all circumstances.

3. Have all classes be focused on impressing interests on students.
I can't stress this enough; all academic subjects can be interesting to anyone and everyone, but the fundamental flaw in the current schooling system is a lack of pushing intuitive understanding in subject matter which leads to students thinking more complex courses (mathematics, science, etc.) can only be met with success through sheer memory or simply having a god-like talent for the course. The biggest problem is many students ask "What am I supposed to do with this information?" for everything including the important fundamental theory of functions within basic calculus. It's not the fact that the question exists, but the fact many students won't find an answer and be completely demotivated to push any further.

I could probably think more about this question and produce more examples of solutions but those were the three points I've thought about for the longest time, with tangential solutions from both the public and private sectors.
#100731 to #100690 - Shiny
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Common Core and previously NCLB are essentially designed to make students mediocre useful idiots. It's never been based on evidence of success.
#100709 to #100690 - pebar
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(12/12/2015) [-]
>reform
>government schools

pick one
#100696 to #100690 - byposted
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Your question and suggestions ignore that public schooling is an industrial-era institution, which belongs, along with all that superstitious stuff, just in history class - with a wew haven't we progressed attitude about it, of course.

Except that this history class is entirely digitized, from PCs connected to the internet, like ours. Talk about "free fashioned!"

It is only our obligation to ensure that the future of education is not pic related, for the future in all but ideological inheritance is foreordained. Notice how the test is administered - over the internet.
#100721 to #100696 - Shiny
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I can see how the pic is politically slanted, but even though it is technically plausible for the genetics of race to be linked to those of cognitive ability, it's incredibly unlikely while we have tons of proof of how neurological development causes such differences.
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#100692 to #100690 - Zaxplab
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(12/12/2015) [-]
The feds shouldn't have anything to do with education.
#100693 to #100692 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Then they'd be teaching Jesus in school instead of real subjects
You know how the stupid redneck Republicans are
Wtf are you a jew
#100784 to #100693 - Zaxplab
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(12/13/2015) [-]
No they wouldn't, the Constitution has that covered.
#100905 to #100784 - anon
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(12/14/2015) [-]
HOW ASSHOLE AND YEAH IM PUTTING YOU DOWN BECAUSE NIGGER
#100694 to #100693 - minibeep
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(12/12/2015) [-]
i dont think they should teach any religion in class.
and history classes should be more free fashioned so kids are not affected by propaganda all the time.
i even found some conspiracy theories in my history book.
#100688 - pebar
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(12/12/2015) [-]
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#100691 to #100688 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Socialized medicine in Switzerland works fine. Maybe North Americans are just subhuman?
#100684 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
WE KNOW WHO THE ENEMY IS

#100681 - anon
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#100680 - Shiny
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(12/12/2015) [-]
twitter.com/LDJ_France/status/674307580861263872

8chan's /pol/ has gone full damage control and now dumps all threads about pic related or his anti-free speech comments into the memory hole.
#100702 to #100680 - byposted
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(12/12/2015) [-]
The JDL wouldn't support the sort of immigration policies I envision, believe me.

The "temporary" measures against "Muslims" Trump suggested should be popular, as a policy proposal, with Breitbart, the JDL, and others, but not /pol/ - which should see these things rather as propaganda vehicles for the redpill-armored twatter brigade, since it isn't nearly enough to satisfy WNs.

We should be above "serious concern" for "turror" or "mooooooslim jihaaaad" or whatever.

/pol/ is likely in a trance from which it doesn't want to be woken because, like triggered, leftist journalists, they've never seen anybody like Trump say what he's saying before, even though WN has many good voices. Why won't they "educate themselves" and meme become an effective resistance to the NWO already?
#100705 to #100702 - byposted
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(12/12/2015) [-]
>The JDL wouldn't support the sort of immigration policies I envision

This is because there'd be complementary emigration policies - begrudgingly back to Israel the so-called Israelites go!

I'd consider burning them instead, since I know how they burden my Arab friends, too.
#100708 to #100705 - byposted
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(12/12/2015) [-]
In theory, radical Zionists would support any Jewish "return" to Israel, but Israel was never about letting go of control over gentiles. It was only ever meant to be a safe space for that activity, evidently. Many of Tel Aviv's skyscrapers are vacant for most of the year, while their offices occupy New York or Paris.

Nearly one in two billionaires in the US are Jewish - what money to reappropriate for the public good and companies to nationalize or bid, for example!
#100713 to #100708 - Shiny
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Isn't rich people being Jewish a result of Jewish being an ethnicity and not a race? You can have one Ashkenazi great grandfather and still be considered a Jew.
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#100678 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
Dance like a cuck
#100763 to #100678 - feelythefeel
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(12/12/2015) [-]
HE HAS NO PROFILE
HE HAS NO FACE
THIS KONG
IS A FUCKING DISGRACE
HE CAN SHITPOST
IF HE NEEDS TO
HE CAN BANEPOST
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#100676 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
#100689 to #100676 - Zaxplab
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(12/12/2015) [-]
That's almost as believable as the original version.
#100677 to #100676 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
But not logical.
#100679 to #100675 - akkere
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I don't really see this doing all that much for education, in all honesty.
NCLB was a pretty ineffective policy, but with no real intent to introduce further an additional solution like enhancing the technical aspects of educational presentation, repealing it probably won't do much either. States that don't intend to fund or put any kind of proper focus on education aren't going to benefit anymore from losing the severe expectation of fulfilling core requirements anymore than placing those expectations would in the first place. Calling it "Every Student Succeeds" is pretty much the last thing needed to fit the rest of the policy into the ironic theme of a policy that does nothing to help younger students.

The policy doesn't do anything to change the ineffective mantra of creating a system to evaluate mandatory knowledgeable concepts without following up with a system to actually teach students the intuition behind those topics. Instead, the trend of having students memorize common test formats will still linger, it'll just be up to the states to demonstrate how they'll go about doing it.
#100772 to #100679 - mixednuts
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(12/12/2015) [-]
I'm inclined to agree.

Though it should be simpler for states to create a curriculum suited to their students needs, this probably won't change much. Espcially as it still retains the standardized testing. Actually with some state governments increasing ire towards public education and sympathy for the home school movement, I'm concerned that schooling could become even worse in some places.
#100672 - feelythefeel
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(12/11/2015) [-]
German Military War Songs-Westerwald Lied ITT: Patriotic music that gets you moving.






Augen geradeaus






Die Wacht am Rhein - Deutsches Kaiserreich
#100674 to #100672 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
German sounds like they have dicks in their mouths lol
#100673 to #100672 - feelythefeel
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(12/11/2015) [-]
Napoleon Bonaparte : la marseillaise One last song from the Frenchies.
#100664 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
"In time of war, we blockade our enemys in order to provent them from getting goods from us. In time of peace, we do to ourselves by tariffs, what we do to our enemys in time of war."
~Henry george

Trump is economically illiterate.
#100683 to #100664 - anon
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(12/12/2015) [-]
fuck this economic philosophy crap

america is the home of crony capitalism greased palms and bullshit
#100644 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
DARTH TRUMP - Auralnauts
#100671 to #100644 - feelythefeel
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(12/11/2015) [-]
You can try, but you still can't fuck up Star Wars as bad as Disney can.
#100635 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
Are there any Republican candidates who won't reverse the foreign policy achievements of the Obama administration in regards to Cuba and Iran?
#100698 to #100635 - byposted
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(12/12/2015) [-]
It isn't possible to "reverse" these developments.

Obama is hardly a hero for "accomplishing" what was overdue - rapprochement with Cuba and stabilization of relations with Iran. It's what anybody would expect, and they are overshadowed by what he has, in part, done to Libya and Syria.
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#100632 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew that he fathered an illegitimate black child?
#100630 - feelythefeel
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(12/11/2015) [-]
I'm thinking of writing some form of political tract some day. How's "Nature's Eternal Fascism; A Treatise on National Socialist Application to Modern Crisis" for a title?
#100686 to #100630 - youregaylol
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(12/12/2015) [-]
A bit long
#100651 to #100630 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
No one will care or read it anyway.
#100659 to #100651 - thumbfortrump
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(12/11/2015) [-]
make account faggot.
#100620 to #100609 - byposted
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(12/11/2015) [-]
I find it bretty lol how leftist journalists, finding common cause with neoconservatives, are injecting or projecting their outrage into the GOP primaries. Notice how initial polls for Trump's Muslim proposal were much more favorable before "this is the worst thing since Nuremberg" took effect.

The Onion should parody them. Whenever there's an article titled: "it's literally ogre for Trump" look up his/hyr/zir leanings.

I even saw a libcuck offering advice to his cuckservative buddies yesterday: "this is seriously concerning. The RNC should seriously consider kicking these extremists out of their party. The formation of a third party only hurts for a little while, historically, before the disaffected electorate realizes it's, like, literally the current year, and rejoins our leftist-incrementalist two-party charade." this is why leftists largely will never abandon the two-party system - Clinton may be a corporate whore, but she's certainly taking the country in their direction.

But unearthing the Reform Party wouldn't hurt. Trump/Ventura would've been dank, had a Ron Paul appeal, and given me some hope in the political process. It could still happen if Trump does to the RNC what it deserves and runs third-party.
#100622 to #100620 - Shiny
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(12/11/2015) [-]
I find the Trump paranoia weird when most GOP candidates of the last three decades have been far more guilty of the accusations thrown at him.

#100654 to #100622 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
Trump has balls.
The GOP doesn't.
#100662 to #100654 - thumbfortrump
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(12/11/2015) [-]
Make account faggot.
#100625 to #100622 - anon
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(12/11/2015) [-]
Trump is just saying out loud what most GOP politicians usually imply with weasel words and dog whistling.
#100604 - redandgreen
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(12/10/2015) [-]
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-35061430

Not generally in favour of the death penalty but I could change my mind.