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User avatar #51863 - undeadwill (11/18/2013) [-]
Sometimes I wonder if we we will ever make it a species.

Think about this.

We don't go to war with countries with nuclear weapons because of MAD. So we make a counter system to this in hope that we don't blow our selves up but then we are free to wage war again.
Only problem is then we drop bombs that aren't able to be deflected. So war goes on and on and on. Till there is nothing left on our pitiful planet but time.

Time till finally our sun goes super nova or a comet destroys our planet.

The main focus of every system should be human advance in the sciences and into space.
User avatar #51865 to #51863 - schnizel ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
Natural selection and the rights of the powerful.
#51854 - anonymous (11/18/2013) [-]
Faccetta Nera. . . 1° Versione. . . .

Kingdom of Italy Master Race
User avatar #51849 - pebar ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
Peter Schiff Owning Everyone's Ass on C-span
User avatar #51853 to #51849 - pebar ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
I'm still on the fence about austrian economics...
User avatar #51856 to #51853 - Shiny (11/18/2013) [-]
The name is kind of funny when you consider the fact that statistically speaking, the nation of Austria has always lagged behind in economic freedom.

That said, schools of economic thought seem to be more like academic classifications than rigid practical frameworks.
#51846 - CapnInterwebz (11/18/2013) [-]
>nearing the 50 year anniversary of JFK's mind-blowing trip to Dallas   
>still no mention of conspiracy theories on /politics/   
>mfw
>nearing the 50 year anniversary of JFK's mind-blowing trip to Dallas
>still no mention of conspiracy theories on /politics/
>mfw

#51842 to #51841 - lulzforhiroshima (11/18/2013) [-]
I fuckin love these comics.
User avatar #51861 to #51843 - schnizel ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
hahahahhahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahaha
#51791 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
ITT: If you were forced to relocate to any European country, which would it be?
ITT: If you were forced to relocate to any European country, which would it be?
User avatar #51844 to #51791 - undeadwill (11/18/2013) [-]
France. I'd never have to work a day in my life.
User avatar #51848 to #51844 - lulzforhiroshima (11/18/2013) [-]
you fucking socialist shit
User avatar #51850 to #51848 - undeadwill (11/18/2013) [-]
Its a joke.
User avatar #51851 to #51850 - lulzforhiroshima (11/18/2013) [-]
NO REALLY?????!
User avatar #51852 to #51851 - undeadwill (11/18/2013) [-]
I'd pick Texas.
User avatar #51821 to #51791 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
Excepting Poland, I could live with Lithuanians.
User avatar #51822 to #51821 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
What about the glorious Germans?
User avatar #51825 to #51822 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
They are a dying society like Japan. I'd rather not be near them.. I have family in Lithuania on the other hand. Lithuanians will one day embrace Polish power and Krolewiec will be a city dedicated to our joint relations and empire.
#51815 to #51791 - valeriya (11/17/2013) [-]
i already live in europe give me another continent?
User avatar #51818 to #51815 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
North America.
#51823 to #51818 - valeriya (11/17/2013) [-]
hmm canada cold, nice people from what the internet says.
User avatar #51803 to #51791 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
If language wasn't an issue, I'd probably pick Germany. I like their food and their culture is interesting.
User avatar #51805 to #51803 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
Same. Love the Germans.
User avatar #51833 to #51805 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
For a long time there were no German restaurants in the city. One finally opened (or is going to open) this fall but it looks like it's primarily a bar and you have to be 21 to enter.
I'm very disappointed.
#51787 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
>Bosnians

Mustafa Cerić: "Naša majka je Turska!"
Bosanski muslimani se napokon nacionalno opredjelili: "Mi smo Turci"
Sexy turkish Bitch BELLY DANCE.mp4






Poland sacrificed her stature to keep the Turks out of Vienna for this?
User avatar #51862 to #51787 - schnizel ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
I'm from Bosnia.........
User avatar #52002 to #51862 - byposted (11/19/2013) [-]
Become a satellite of Serbia.
User avatar #52040 to #52002 - schnizel ONLINE (11/19/2013) [-]
No, wtf I am son of Tvrtko I
User avatar #51793 to #51787 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
Eastern Europe, where you have to much corruption, Muslims and everything is shit.
User avatar #51799 to #51793 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
But you are correct in essence.
User avatar #51794 to #51793 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
We are speaking of Southern Europe here.
User avatar #51798 to #51794 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
which i also consider to be eastern europe...
User avatar #51809 to #51798 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
Geography is a matter of perspective after all. I remember sitting in class hearing about some womyn talking about "euro-centrism" in geography.

If you were to consider Bosnia a part of Eastern Europe, then Eastern Europe's frontiers would not be too far from Berlin in the northern direction. I consider East Europe to run east of Lviv.
#51826 to #51809 - valeriya (11/17/2013) [-]
wait what your a shitty pole if ive ever met one
#51828 to #51826 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
Poland is in the advanced, culturally and scientifically, Central Europe. Russian lands have the legacy of being "eastern" and "oriental" aha
#51829 to #51828 - valeriya (11/17/2013) [-]
no no not that also you are eastern, just western slavic hush now delusional pole now, think for a moment, you're nationalist and polish and youve used the wrong something for a pole, if you don't realize it get out go to poland and find out what you did wrong
#51830 to #51829 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
Could this be about Lviv? Poles are over such disputes now.
#51831 to #51830 - valeriya (11/17/2013) [-]
they really aren't, and yes that was what i was talking about, still a bunch of ingrates with a massive superiority complex if i've ever met them
User avatar #51840 to #51831 - lulzforhiroshima (11/18/2013) [-]
that is an amazing pic.
User avatar #51834 to #51831 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
Lvov symbolizes, I believe, what makes Poland western. The city looks as if it is stuck in the 20th century while Krakow and other Polish cities are modern. Plus, our loss of Lvov was nicely supplanted by our long coast on the Baltic.

The same way that Germans cannot covet East Prussia due to the demographic situation, Poles cannot covet the Ukraine unless we plan to colonize other Slavs which is a possibility only in the future sometime. I certainly do not wish for an ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians from Lvov. I would not stoop to the level of them.
#51835 to #51834 - valeriya (11/17/2013) [-]
just remember who gave you that coastline, remember who gave you that industry who built your cities and towns and gave you food, poland isn't as strong as you like to believe they've got no cultural influence or soft poer like the uk does with its old colonies and empires modern poland has pretty much lived off of the benevolence of other states using and manipulating poland to their benefits, hell even during the commonwealth is pretty easy to fuck up poland, just bribe a small lord to veto everything and watch everything grind to a halt.
#51839 to #51835 - byposted (11/18/2013) [-]
Also you didn't do a very good job of giving us food. Giving us lead, on the other hand...
User avatar #51837 to #51835 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
You're forgetting that Poland had a rich independent history and culture prior to the modern state, much superior to the Russian. When you speak of manipulating, that's a sad fact. In the OP I stated that Poland saved Vienna and sacrificed her stature by doing it. Why? Probably because the Polish King's wife was Italian and doing the Pope's work by influencing the King. We were the strongest military in Europe at that time and it was all washed away in war debts to save the south Germans who never did anything for us.

>remember who gave you that industry who built your cities and towns and gave you food

I remember who rigged our elections and stabbed us in the back after years of pretending to be "neutral." I think you are mistaking me for believing that Poland is the strongest state in Europe or something. I would have preferred for our government to have become a vassal of Germany's in the 1930s. After centuries of occupation the damage done to the Polish nation was irreversible and we could only hope to gain stature under a common German/Polish policy.

Today, it is best that Poland thinks in terms of nation. Hopefully under the leadership of strong men Poland may become self-sufficient, It has the proper culture of which Russians lack, and solidarity unionists should not delude themselves so easily.
#51879 to #51837 - valeriya (11/18/2013) [-]
I hate to break it to you, but unlike Russia, Poland was subjugated, crushed and divided by Russia Prussia, and Austria the polish nation ceased to exist, Russia has never been conquered, and tends to be the one doing the conquering simply because Russia was strong and Poland was weak culture has next to nothing to do with it you can deem yourself strong all you want it means nothing it can't back it up See Russia between 1721-1918 Multi-ethnic, multicultural, founded on conquest, culturally "inferior" yet crushed poland toplel., it only came into existence again through the entente nations demanding Germany give up the lands it'd gained If you don't know what I'm talking about just google brest-something I can't remember the treaty name , this after years of a mixture of russification and germanifcation you had a cluster fuck of a nation who looked at each other and tilted their own heads, ironically it then got split again because molotov. Modern day poland got expanded after Germany beat the shit out of Poland for shits and giggles and Russia felt a big buffer state was better then a small one, then Russia came and made Poland a buffer state and pretty much hurled money at poland to rebuild, Now the thing is Poland isn't a strong country, again no soft power influence no cultural influence either. Now if you look at Russia or hell even the UK both have soft power and cultural influence over countries, Poland is one of those countries, they will never be the master of their own fate, they'll always be bound to the whims and wills of others, If I wanted to shit they're not large enough not influential enough, and can't just dick wave hard power like America does. I'm not even sorry for that one. .

User avatar #51998 to #51879 - byposted (11/19/2013) [-]
>Poland isn't a strong country

I have never said that it was. Warsaw was a pile of ashes at the end of WWII and a large portion of our population died. The Communists executed our intelligentsia over and over again and prevented Poland from developing on Western lines. We cannot be a strong nation by virtue of what has happened to us; neither is Russia a strong nation any longer for much the same reasons. It remains a hotbed of poverty with the quality population emigrating en masse. Turkik Muslims are growing the fastest and will blow themselves up in the upcoming Olympics, and will eventually take over the region. Russia is done as a great power and will disintegrate further. Russia can only "wave its dick" around while America has direct influence in global affairs. If Syria had been bombed, Russia could not have done shit; it only waved its dick around by putting some of its outdated navy ships on the coast. I have been wanting Russia to come back to the stage as a World Power, but it is very unlikely.

The UK does not have much cultural influence, at that, and I don't know why you keep citing them. They lost their empire and are going the way of modern Italy and Greece. That is, they are becoming a largely irrelevant country.

>they will never be the master of their own fate, they'll always be bound to the whims and wills of others

The Russian people have never been masters of their own fate. All the Russians have ever known is something very close to oriental despotism: Absolute Monarchy, Bolshevism...You say Putin rigged the elections, well then this is an extension of such thought. You can denounce the stature of the Polish nation today, something you are largely responsible for, but at least Poles can afford to eat a good meal. Your compatriots in Russia drink themselves to death and live a precarious existence. You say culture doesn't matter...culture is what is preventing Russia from becoming anything.
User avatar #51995 to #51879 - byposted (11/19/2013) [-]
>Russia has never been conquered...

Do you really believe what you're saying? You asked me this question yesterday, and I must call your bluff. I can name at least two conquerors of all "Russia" off the top of my head. In both instances, "Russia" was subjected to only one foreign power who dominated the entire region by its own military might for an extended period of time.

I doubt you are so inept however, and you must be taking me for a fool.

...>and tends to be the one doing the conquering simply because Russia was strong and Poland was weak

Poland was a strong military power long before Russia became one by virtue of inevitability. Note Poland's march on Moscow as the prime example. When Russia "conquered" Poland, it only did so with the help of two other powers, as you have mentioned. In WWI, Russia showed how "powerful" it was compared to other European powers. It only achieved one major victory, against the Austrians, and this amounted to a Hail Mary which did not accomplish anything in the long run.

Russia never really had impressive military accomplishments, at that. Taking control of the divided Turkik nations following the disintegration of the Horde was not really impressive, and indeed was accomplished only with the help of German specialists who were in a large manner responsible for the modernization the Russian military, not to mention its administration. Left to its own devices, Russia would have developed almost totally on oriental lines.

>entente nations demanding Germany give up the lands it'd gained

Poland was not the only nation that was given sovereignty after WWI, as you are making it sound. The Czechs had suffered a similarly disastrous capitulation centuries before and regained statehood in an ironic manner.

>ironically it then got split again because molotov.

No, not ironic by any means. The imperialist Soviet state wanted to, ironically, have an empire despite its rhetoric and was able to gain land here.
User avatar #51817 to #51809 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
When you are referring to Southern Europe your referring to the Eastern -Southern side most likely, not Spain and Italy, at least thats what i can assume because you were talking about Bosnia.
User avatar #51800 to #51798 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
u wot m8
User avatar #51801 to #51800 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
fuck off, i hate assholes like you who created very general names and always join un-invited conversations saying "hi" and shit.
User avatar #51802 to #51801 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
I didn't say hi, though
Who needs an invitation on a public site?
User avatar #51804 to #51802 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
you dont get the point dumbass, it isn't funny and is annoying so fuck off and stop joining other people's conversations.
User avatar #51806 to #51804 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
I didn't come here to be funny
You have little right calling anyone a dumbass, considering how you consider southen Europe to be a eastern Europe
User avatar #51807 to #51806 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
I know you come here to be annoying.
User avatar #51808 to #51807 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
Does this board have any other purpose?
User avatar #51812 to #51808 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
We have actual discussions about politics dumbass. Please stop replying and don't come back here next time your name is called.
User avatar #51813 to #51812 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
If I want to come here when I get a mention, then that's my fancy
User avatar #51820 to #51813 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
I know you have the right to be an annoying cum-gurgling dumbass, i also have the right to recognize that and ask you to stop and fuck off.
User avatar #51824 to #51820 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
Yes, and you do
And to that I say pox on you.
Cheers.
User avatar #51810 to #51808 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
Have you heard the good new of our lord and savior the invisible hand of the market?
User avatar #51811 to #51810 - europe (11/17/2013) [-]
Yes
I reject it
User avatar #51900 to #51811 - jewishcommunazi (11/18/2013) [-]
"GoodForYou.jpg".
User avatar #51901 to #51900 - europe (11/18/2013) [-]
It is
User avatar #51902 to #51901 - jewishcommunazi (11/18/2013) [-]
What kind of economy do you prefer?
#51777 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
User avatar #51774 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
WW2 justified by former German soldiers

rekt
User avatar #51796 to #51774 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
Fucking disgusting shit tier Russian quality. Of course German master race quality, will always like those guys even though the holocaust and labor camps and ect.
#51792 to #51774 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
>OY VEY U GOYS SURROUNDED OUR VILLAGE
>dutch resistance

lol
User avatar #51860 to #51792 - schnizel ONLINE (11/18/2013) [-]
XD
User avatar #51797 to #51792 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
that's a dutch "tank" by the way
User avatar #51770 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
lulzforkazan n le russians
User avatar #51827 to #51770 - byposted (11/17/2013) [-]
They're still up to killing their political enemies with plane crashes. It's getting old.
#51734 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
#rekt
User avatar #51772 to #51734 - Shiny (11/17/2013) [-]
By that logic, humans can afford to be gay and animals can't, thus making us better than them for it.
#51773 to #51772 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
;)
;)
User avatar #51769 to #51734 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
Doesn't matter because its not the place of the state. To enforce such policies is little more than the tool to control the people.
User avatar #51771 to #51769 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
However, the state does have a duty to protect the rights of people and there's a debate on whether those rights should extend to intelligent apes.
User avatar #51775 to #51771 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
With rights come responsibilities. If a chimp or ape can not respect the rights of others then it does not deserve them.
User avatar #51832 to #51775 - kanadetenshi (11/17/2013) [-]
Some apes can do that, Koko the gorilla for example can speak full sentences in sign language and legally owns cats as pets. Although Koko is a pretty special example.
User avatar #51776 to #51775 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
Does a retard with barely any brain function have the right to not be executed by the state simple because he is a drain on resource?
User avatar #51778 to #51776 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
If attacks someone he loses his rights and is sent to prison that is the standard of having rights.
User avatar #51779 to #51778 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
How about the family who usually has to take care of the retard. If the family is fed up with the burden, are they allowed to kill the retard since he doesn't have the right to life which the state normally has the duty to protect?
User avatar #51781 to #51779 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
Again if you are going to give someone rights they must respect others and others must respect theirs.

If chimps are to be given equal right they must have equal responsibility.
User avatar #51782 to #51781 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
My point is that retards, which we already give rights to, lack the same ability and responsibility that chimps lack.
User avatar #51783 to #51782 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
I'm not saying take away all their rights just because of actions of a few (If so no one would get rights) What I am saying is that they must on an individual level be able to function otherwise their rights will be removed.
User avatar #51784 to #51783 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
A lot of chimps have higher brain function than some severely retarded people
User avatar #51785 to #51784 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
Well that's good but remember they are also five times stronger than any living human in many cases.
They need to learn the language and be civil if they are to have a place.
User avatar #51758 to #51734 - kanadetenshi (11/17/2013) [-]
Most of what he said about bonobos are absolutely made up from the spot. Plus it was human intervention that got them near extinction in the first place.

If people actually want to sound like respectable people they would actually try to study the facts and science behind the things they blatantly try to defense instead of making absolute layman bullshit to justify their ideologies.
#51761 to #51758 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
*tips fedore*
*tips fedore*
User avatar #51748 to #51747 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
#rekt
User avatar #51751 to #51748 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
wut?
User avatar #51753 to #51751 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
in the but
User avatar #51755 to #51753 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
don't change the subject....
User avatar #51757 to #51755 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
But I am evil nazi who wants to enslave all non blonde blue eyes people, how should I understand?
User avatar #51756 to #51755 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
What, noone is perfect, I know that.
User avatar #51759 to #51756 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
What does "#rekt" mean?
User avatar #51760 to #51759 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
ownd
User avatar #51762 to #51760 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
The post basically says that although humans are more advanced, sociological differences play a huge part in the upbringing of other species as well.
So how is that owned?
#51763 to #51762 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
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User avatar #51693 - pebar ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
Milton Friedman - Health Care in a Free Market
User avatar #51695 to #51693 - Shiny (11/16/2013) [-]
Some good points, but I still feel that the libertarian view of health care is a bit simplistic.
User avatar #51699 to #51695 - pebar ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
does it need to be complicated?
User avatar #51700 to #51699 - Shiny (11/17/2013) [-]
No, but oftentimes it can be.
#51690 - pebar ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
The Collapse of The American Dream Explained in Animation Schnizel, is this why you hate Jews?
User avatar #51729 to #51690 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
Oy vey
User avatar #51697 to #51690 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
i think he's just trying to troll...
He never really fully discusses it like byposted or frisia did, he literally writes a sentence or two about something very general and thats it.
User avatar #51730 to #51697 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
50%
50%
User avatar #51726 to #51697 - akkere (11/17/2013) [-]
He's from /pol/, so keep that in mind.
I personally don't like how every time you argue something with him he just gets impatient and goes to playing a game like Total War he probably doesn't even play on hardest difficulty mode, the queerosexual but he'll still go back to reposting the same point he had before in a later thread.

Besides, who even plays Total War anymore? Generic Space Simulator Strategy Games are where it's at.
User avatar #51731 to #51726 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
Well I would rather play Rome than argue but next time I will stay.
Roma invicta
User avatar #51764 to #51731 - akkere (11/17/2013) [-]
You mean you'd rather get demolished by Carthage
butt anhilated
User avatar #51765 to #51764 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
You should check my pregress on Steam.
User avatar #51720 to #51697 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
To be honest I'm getting really tired of his shit posting. I mean I am king of shit posting (proud creator on no-post-sunday. TM.) but I don't expect people to watch a two hour video unless I really think they will enjoy it. (movie night history of the gun lock and load etc.) Not even I'm that egotistically sadistic.

He acts like a child that in neglected by even the lowest beings of sentience. Greedy for attention and thirsty for affection he has not earned.
User avatar #51728 to #51720 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
Nigga I watched that Israel video y told me to watch 4 y
User avatar #51746 to #51728 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
I gave you a video?
User avatar #51749 to #51746 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
Your mother giving birth to you.
User avatar #51750 to #51749 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
Can't troll me motherfucker
#51754 to #51750 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
I can, Chin Chin is my Lord!
User avatar #51725 to #51723 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
Was I a bit harsh?
User avatar #51727 to #51725 - lulzforhiroshima (11/17/2013) [-]
Not at all, he's a troll like i said, if he wasn't he'd be having actual discussions.
User avatar #51732 to #51727 - schnizel ONLINE (11/17/2013) [-]
What shall we talk about goy?
#51662 - pebar ONLINE (11/16/2013) [-]
"And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. Our landholders, too, like theirs, retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must wander, like theirs, in foreign countries, and be contented with penury, obscurity, exile, and the glory of the nation. This example reads to us the salutary lesson, that private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."
#51660 - lulzforhiroshima (11/16/2013) [-]
ca.news.yahoo.com/video/fords-shocking-023800123.html Holy crap, this has really escalated. They have completely destroyed him and his character.
User avatar #51712 to #51660 - teoberry (11/17/2013) [-]
I feel really bad for the guy, but he needs to take a vacation. He's fucked up. It's nothing to do with the media. He's fucked up, apologized, and fucked up more. The man's gotta take a break.
User avatar #51675 to #51660 - akkere (11/16/2013) [-]
I don't condone drug usage or extensive media bashing (I don't mind giving a fair share though), but smoking coke and smoking pot aren't exactly comparable.
The Toronto Star and Toronto Sun certainly seem to be at each other's throats, the former trying to attack him and the latter defending him (which is probably necessary; Ford's doing a shit job defending himself if he actually is innocent of the allegations, which doesn't seem to be the case).
I found it pretty funny when I heard NOW tried to fake a nude photograph of him with a fig leaf and everything.
User avatar #51676 to #51675 - lulzforhiroshima (11/16/2013) [-]
" but smoking coke and smoking pot aren't exactly comparable"

I'm sorry to be the first one to tell you this but they REALLY are, both are illegal drugs that should not be taken by anyone including politicians, just because you are left doesnt mean you can lower standards and make pot look like nothing.
User avatar #51677 to #51676 - akkere (11/16/2013) [-]
I'm not left, I'm a centrist, but nice job shit-flinging like the people you try to fight against. I'm talking in terms of one being more socially acceptable than the other. Cocaine will never (or at least, should never) be decriminalized because of it's volatile side effects and absolute addiction. Marijuana's considered more socially acceptable (even if it's not legally acceptable) because of a lack in volatile side effects.
User avatar #51679 to #51677 - lulzforhiroshima (11/16/2013) [-]
i wasnt trying to call you left akkere, i was simply using it as an example, because you are left - as in just because a person identifying themselves as this. Sorry for not clearing that up
It comes down to the fact that both are illegal, no matter how socially acceptable they one is, once pot becomes legal (which i am all for) then we can call them way different.
User avatar #51680 to #51679 - akkere (11/16/2013) [-]
Ah, my apologies then. Sorry for the trigger reaction then; I've been surfing between Huffpo (a bias Left source) and Fox (a bias right source) comment boards, across a few different discussions, and I've been tagged as a righty or a lefty through and through them in a rather unorthodox manner.
The right news sources (or whoever opposes those aforementioned pot smoking politicians) aren't going to effectively be able to strike the politicians as well as Rob Ford because of pot being socially acceptable, is my point. By the eyes of the law, Marijuana and Cocaine aren't viewed any differently because they're seen as both as illegal narcotics and therefore unsuitable for the use of any official - political or otherwise, but it's impossible for anyone to use Marijuana to the same effect as Coke because of it's social acceptability (it might even boost their ratings, which I think to be kind of a joke).
User avatar #51661 to #51660 - lulzforhiroshima (11/16/2013) [-]
anybody else heard about this? Its really getting hectic.

I cant believe they're doing all of this over smoking crack when we got leftists in Canada like Trudeau who apparently admit to smoking pot.
User avatar #51691 to #51661 - Shiny (11/16/2013) [-]
Crack and pot are the same thing now?
User avatar #51692 to #51691 - lulzforhiroshima (11/16/2013) [-]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#51642 - finni (11/16/2013) [-]
Wants to be patriotic of your country's culture and cultural history


Nazis already taken most of the coolest icons
#51684 to #51642 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
You got your National flag dumbass
thats the only icon you'll need
User avatar #51743 to #51684 - finni (11/17/2013) [-]
For you maybe, but there are a lot of other things that represents your culture than just your flag, moron. The flag is like your country's mascot, but it doesn't show all the other things that includes in your cultural history.
#51644 to #51642 - anonymous (11/16/2013) [-]
you're already better than everyone else... please don't rub it in
User avatar #51645 to #51644 - finni (11/16/2013) [-]
Well thank you, but being better than everyone else wasn't exactly the point I was trying to make
User avatar #51639 - undeadwill (11/16/2013) [-]
Oxan I summon thee.
Do you know what your commie buddies on tumblr have been up to?
1. They replaced communism with either anarcho communism or resource based economy
2. Make NOTHING but social, moralistic, or emotional arguments. (I'm not kidding about this one)
3. They tend to claim that capitalism is racist, sexist, trans-phobic, homophobic, non vegan, environmentally damaging and etc.
4. They can't tell the fucking difference between capitalism and imperialism (Because yes there is a difference)
5. They claim because I "Enjoy my talks with a nationalist socialist (bypest)" That I was a fascist.
Let that one soak in for a moment. No really just wait a bit and think long and hard on that last one. I talk to a nationalist socialist therefore I am. Ignore you and peber and everyone else I talk to its only bypest that matters. So pleae sit back and think on this think about your buddies. How they assume because of this and the 88 in my user name undeadwill88 which could be for anything (It was because when I was little I saw it as a number of mechanical perfection one was too little three too much, that and it was a football jersey I wore)
Okay yo thought about it enough? Good

6. They seem to believe that believing in a political ideology wills it into existence. They are incapable of making long term plans.
7. They believe that everything that is not anachro communism is "State capitalism" Which means "We don't want to deal with the fact in high school we learned how badddddd the soviets were so we are distencing our selves from them. To the point of calling North Korea, Capitalist.
8. Cultural fucking Marxism. Serious fuck you for this,
9. When ever I make a great and valid point I am hit with "Hurr Durr u r fascist so u is wong"
10. Most commies are SJW. How does that make you feel?
So just want to let you know how batshit your religion political group has gotten of late.
No if you excuse I'm going to cough up mucus and blood.
User avatar #51738 to #51639 - oxan (11/17/2013) [-]
1. Fucking AnComs, man.
2. And that's totally un-Marxist, what the fuck. Tumblr commies suck.
3.
a) Yes
b) Yes
c) They fucking think everything is transphobic. The answer is still yes, but not wanting to date a trans person, for example, isn't fucking transphobic, shit
d) Yes, and somewhat related to 'C'
e) Lol, I'm dying
f) Yup
4. Naw, capitalism today is imperialism. Remember the distinction between imperialism and colonialism.
5. Alleging that everything is fascist is a major problem for these people. I'm good friends with racists, but I'm anti-racist anti-white anti-racist.
6. No, that's fucking AnComs. We Marxist-Leninists actually have proven theory and a plan.
7. HOLY FUCKING SHIT COME HERE AND HUG ME. If I hear one more Trot talk about Stalin ruining the revolution or some shit. But I should actually review the North Korean economy and check the state capitalist hypothesis. I understand it's revisionist, but not sure about state-capitalist.
8. Fuck me? You know I hate those guys.
9. 'Hurr, you Stalinist!' I know that feel.
10. We are. But not Tumblr-tier.

Internet commies have always been batshit. Especially hipster bloggers. Seriously, fuck Trots.
8.
User avatar #51768 to #51738 - undeadwill (11/17/2013) [-]
1. You've. been. Replaced.
2. I miss debates with you after that shit.
3.
a. Nope. People are racist not economies.
b. nope.
c. No more than communism is.
d. nope. (Gay people under capitalism are usually upper to middle class due to the lack of children to become a finical burden)
e. they assume because people make money of it, it encourages flesh eating.
f. It is, but they are assuming that every other system isn't.
4. Not really. We have more of national socialism today in every country. Capitalism in its true state is nonexistent today.
5. So why do you allow them to ruin your revolution because you know they can not fight.
6. that's the point, these people will ruin your revolution.
7. It has one case of non state owned business. And its a factory owned by South Korea.
8. Yes but its because of Marxism its even a thing.
9. When I made brilliant points that can not be topped they respond with that. As if their mommy told them never to talk to fascists.
10. Everyone is. The difference is that everyone believes that their system is better.

Why not help me crush or reeducate them?
User avatar #52592 to #51768 - oxan (11/28/2013) [-]
1. AnComs could never replace god-tier Marxist-Leninists
2. thx bby
3.
a. Base influences superstructure.
b. Bourgeois society is, yup
c. Not if these ultalefties have anything to say about it.
d. A lot of people are middle class in capitalism, that don't mean shit
e. Well, demand usually means someone will look to create supply, but whatever
f. Socialism hasn't had they good of a history with the environment, but our emphasis on use-value over exchange-value gives us a bit of a head start
4. I hope you don't mean Nazism, bruh. But naw, the assertion that capitalism is nonexistant is false. There's still a M-C-M process.
5. Not like I have a choice. I mean, if I argued with them, it'd go no where, because I'm a 'Stalinist'. Seriously, these people are just the buffoons of our movement and don't participate in actual Communist Parties.
6. Revisionists and AnComs have been trying that shit forever and we still managed successful revolutions.
7. State-capitalism. The Soviet economy, after about 1965, was state capitalist. High degrees of planning remained, but the gradual decline in Soviet productivity is the result of the inefficiency of the reintroduction of capitalism.
8. But Cultural Marxism actually rejects Marxism when it shifts the emphasis to the superstructure away from the base.
9. I was reading a 'debate' between a top Marxist-Leninist and a Libertarian today. Lol'd my tits off as this guy got his arse handed to him by the M-L, and then could only respond with 'watch the video', despite the fact that the point of the video was refuted anyway.

I try. I argue with Trots all the time, man.
#51650 to #51639 - valeriya (11/16/2013) [-]
i hate to say it but i'm pretty certain most the points you've raised were covered months ago...
#51654 to #51651 - valeriya (11/16/2013) [-]
just dig through the old threads you'll probably find your answers.
User avatar #51655 to #51654 - undeadwill (11/16/2013) [-]
Nope.
User avatar #51640 to #51639 - Shiny (11/16/2013) [-]
How does him being communist means he agrees with every stupid thing a Tumblr retard says>
User avatar #51641 to #51640 - undeadwill (11/16/2013) [-]
Nothing just saying if there was a time to stop appeasing Tumblrs bullshit it be now.
User avatar #51643 to #51641 - Shiny (11/16/2013) [-]
I hardly agree with communism myself, but it seems pretentious and trite to give up something you believe in just because of a website filled with particularly dumb people.
User avatar #51646 to #51643 - undeadwill (11/16/2013) [-]
Not asking him to give it up just not allow it be ruined like this.
#51742 to #51646 - oxan (11/17/2013) [-]
You know the ultraleftists hate me just as much, if not more, than they hte you.
User avatar #52591 to #51767 - oxan (11/28/2013) [-]
Because I'm basically a Stalinist to them.
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User avatar #51647 to #51646 - Shiny (11/16/2013) [-]
Are you actually implying that the opinion of blogaholic fucktards has ever meant anything?
User avatar #51648 to #51647 - undeadwill (11/16/2013) [-]
Good point.
#51634 - oxan (11/16/2013) [-]
>tfw ultraleftists
User avatar #51637 to #51634 - jewishcommunazi (11/16/2013) [-]
By ultra left, you mean the more extreme, almost anarchist communists or cultural "marxists" who are barely left-wing?
User avatar #51735 to #51637 - oxan (11/17/2013) [-]
Both!

But I had the cultural 'Marxists' in mind when making this post.
User avatar #51903 to #51735 - jewishcommunazi (11/18/2013) [-]
Never seen pseudo-leftists being regarded as 'ultra left'.
User avatar #51635 to #51634 - jewishcommunazi (11/16/2013) [-]
What aspects of the ultra left don't you like?
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