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#46936 - pebar (09/04/2013) [-]
I hate it when political policies are made based on emotions when children are involved... Just like sandy hook, people are saying "oh what about the children in Syria, I would hate for that to happen to my children." It completely blinds clouds people's judgement when making a responsible decision.
I hate it when political policies are made based on emotions when children are involved... Just like sandy hook, people are saying "oh what about the children in Syria, I would hate for that to happen to my children." It completely blinds clouds people's judgement when making a responsible decision.
User avatar #46981 to #46936 - undeadwill (09/04/2013) [-]
No matter what we do or how hard we try and can not pick the peaceful winner its like storm cloak vs imperials in Skyrim.
Bad independence or good imperialism.
User avatar #46958 to #46936 - byposted (09/04/2013) [-]
Do you think the American public would be more eager to bomb Syria if John Kerry explained in detail his theory on Mid-East geopolitics and how Syria's destruction plays to its benefit?

Most people in the world use their emotions to conduct thinking. It's natural and politicians play on it as such. I find it interesting how libertarians come to view this as bad or unnatural in some way. Perhaps there is some truth to libertarianism being a codeword for autism. If it is the goal for a politician to gain the support of the commoner, reaching out via abstractions will do nothing.
User avatar #46959 to #46958 - pebar (09/04/2013) [-]
If the action really is to save children, then sure, and there's nothing wrong with acting based on emotion with that goal in mind. But children are more often used as mere propaganda tools to manipulate the population to support a decision, regardless of whether that decision would actually save children or not.
User avatar #46960 to #46959 - byposted (09/04/2013) [-]
I'm not disagreeing with you but am saying that human emotion is linked with decision making. Children are rightfully seen in such a protective way for the human mind has a natural tendency to safeguard children.

Is it so hard to understand why a large chunk of gun-control activists are soccer-mom types? A majority of the population has no objective interest in politics. Most have subjective interests such as the soccer-moms or hideous feminists.

The question is not trying to manipulate the human mind into thinking rationally but to play on its emotions. Most Americans don't even know where Syria is but they can be tricked into supporting a war with the right delivery.

Libertarians need to stop thinking about the individual when they're staring at a flock of sheep.
User avatar #46961 to #46960 - pebar (09/04/2013) [-]
>not trying to manipulate the human mind into thinking rationally but to play on its emotions

that's why I hate it
#46928 - byposted (09/04/2013) [-]
Did anybody watch the Senate discussion on Syria today? Rand Paul asked a simple question: Why should we intervene if it will make the Middle East less stable? Kerryberg responded by talking about Israel's security and began to project illogically. Kerry and a Democrat Senator entertained the thought of authorizing rebels to take control of chemical weapons! On CNN there was some Jewish dyke using the holocaust as casus belli.

The good news is that Rand Paul may filibuster the vote:

les liberators:
User avatar #46926 - tredbear (09/04/2013) [-]
which of the following doesn't belong?

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#46921 - byposted (09/04/2013) [-]

Jurors in Manhattan awarded $250,000 in damages and compensation last week to a black employment agency worker, Brandi Johnson, 38, who was subjected to an N-word rant from her black employer, Rob Carmona.

Ms. Johnson said through her attorney that the rant was a “four-minute [N-word] tirade,” that sent her to the bathroom to cry for 45 minutes.
#46932 to #46921 - fresighto (09/04/2013) [-]
So pay her for 45 minutes at minimum wage.
Or better yet, pay her employer therapists wage for 45 minutes.
User avatar #46917 - roliga (09/03/2013) [-]
Gun Violence - Is this the #NewSchoolUniform ?

Moms demand action is pretty much the new PETA
User avatar #46910 - tredbear (09/03/2013) [-]
02 Anthem of Ukrainian SSR, instrumental version

any of you want to share some of your favorite national anthems?
User avatar #46915 to #46910 - feelythefeel (09/03/2013) [-]
ALL HAIL BRITANNIA. Britannia's Theme You never said it had to be real.
User avatar #46918 to #46915 - DasSpiel (09/04/2013) [-]
Fuck Britannia
User avatar #46919 to #46918 - feelythefeel (09/04/2013) [-]
U A11, m8?
User avatar #46913 to #46910 - teoberry (09/03/2013) [-]
O Canada

It's the only one i know
User avatar #46916 to #46913 - arisaka (09/03/2013) [-]
You know what I like about it? It's fucking short.
User avatar #46920 to #46916 - feelythefeel (09/04/2013) [-]
It kinda reflects how we're not as much of a patriotism-based society as most places. At least, that's what I like to think.
User avatar #46927 to #46920 - arisaka (09/04/2013) [-]
Our patriotism is humble but still very strong. Everyone I know is proud to be Canadian, or Quebecois.

As for our anthem, I honestly have never analyzed it or given it much though, besides the image of thousands of dead native americans when the line "our home and native land."

I do like the french version a LOT better (translated for all of my friends at funnyjunk, of course):

"O Canada!
Land of our forefathers,
Thy brow is wreathed with a glorious garland of flowers.
As is thy arm ready to wield the sword,
So also is it ready to carry the cross.
Thy history is an epic
Of the most brilliant exploits.
Thy valour steeped in faith
Will protect our homes and our rights
Will protect our homes and our rights."
#46905 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (09/03/2013) [-]
Australia will have a new prime minister soon.
Probably gonna be Tony Abbot.
I.E Douchiest, most useless motherfucker in town.
#46933 to #46905 - fresighto (09/04/2013) [-]
Aus is a single town? Like... couresant? (fack spelling, SW ref)
User avatar #46894 - jewishcommunazi (09/03/2013) [-]
If you were running for president or something like that, what would your campaign slogan be?
User avatar #46931 to #46894 - undeadwill (09/04/2013) [-]
"Freedom. Liberty. Peace use to be something men would die for, and die for. When did they become bad words? Why are these ideals so foreign and cold now a days in a country that prides itself in these ideals? We have forgotten the dark days of the past when we gave up these ideals and oppression was the status quo to the sake of oppression. Men's graves have littered the earth ten fold with the words "liberty or death" written on tomb stones."
User avatar #46923 to #46894 - medewu (09/04/2013) [-]
"Hey, I couldn't possibly fuck up worse then the last guys."
User avatar #46922 to #46894 - feelythefeel (09/04/2013) [-]
"Nike™ McDonald's™ "I'm loving it"© Subway™ "Eat fresh"©"

If I'm going to run for a position that's going to force me to sell out eventually, I might as well get started from the get-go.
#46909 to #46894 - fatbenforever (09/03/2013) [-]
*raises fist in the air*

User avatar #46908 to #46894 - lorkhan (09/03/2013) [-]
"You'd think I have a slogan but I don't. Nike™
User avatar #46906 to #46894 - akkere (09/03/2013) [-]
I'd probably shoot for less a moral route and more something strategic, so I'd try to figure something out catchy and relevant to the time I'm running in.
Something simplified to a single word. Nothing controversial, nothing hard-thinking. Just something with a bang.
User avatar #46896 to #46894 - threeeighteen (09/03/2013) [-]
I'll tell the truth for a fucking change.
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#46899 to #46896 - valeriya (09/03/2013) [-]
youre in the wrong race then
User avatar #46892 - tianadesu (09/03/2013) [-]
User avatar #46869 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
I recently decided that I don't really give a fuck about peace I prefer prosperity through trade but when it comes down to it I don't give a fuck about "World peace"
User avatar #46870 to #46869 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
but with peace comes trade routes; as a libertarian, don't you think those are very valuable?
User avatar #46872 to #46870 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
Indeed but like I said peace for peace's sake is low on my list of importance
User avatar #46873 to #46872 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
I take it you're an egoist
so am I
User avatar #46874 to #46873 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
User avatar #46895 to #46874 - jewishcommunazi (09/03/2013) [-]
Nigga u srs?
User avatar #46875 to #46874 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
Very self-centered and you morality is based on how something would affect you personally.
For example, stealing is generally considered wrong. But you don't steal** because** it is wrong, but because there's a chance you might get caught, you might hurt your reputation, or you just might feel guilty.
User avatar #46876 to #46875 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
That describes me perfectly.
User avatar #46877 to #46876 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
I think you once mentioned Ayn Rand and objectivism as something you really agreed with. Ethical egoism was part of what she believed in.
#46938 to #46877 - fresighto (09/04/2013) [-]
Gah. Am I just archaic in thinking that objective morality is good for a society and that Most people do not need to understand to be? I'm not advocating ignorance or lack of introspection- Just acknowledging the widespread lack of affinity for it, and how it may be controlled for the good of the race. IMHO it is the duty of the aware and the intelligent to guide the rest. (All of this assuming a theistic vacuum. Religion makes things different and for this discussion I'd like to leave it out.)
Ave Imperitor
User avatar #46878 to #46877 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
Well I do have asperger syndrome so I tend to write my own laws of morality.
User avatar #46890 to #46878 - jewishcommunazi (09/03/2013) [-]
Some of my teachers said I might have that, but I didn't really care and didn't bother to figure out what that was.
User avatar #46891 to #46890 - jewishcommunazi (09/03/2013) [-]
Apparently I only have about half the symptoms, which probably means I don't have anything.
User avatar #46893 to #46891 - jewishcommunazi (09/03/2013) [-]
The "Paul" thing I saw on wikipedia really does seem like some things I do though.
#46880 to #46878 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
I just looked up asberger syndrome on wiki; it describes me perfectly.
I'm very concerned now...
User avatar #46881 to #46880 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
ever told the same joke over and over and not once realized that it wasn't as funny as the first time you told it?
User avatar #46882 to #46881 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
a bit... Maybe not as funny as the first time but I do like hearing jokes multiple times
User avatar #46883 to #46882 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
Have you ever told the same joke to the same person before?
User avatar #46884 to #46883 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
User avatar #46898 to #46884 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
Ever been obsessed with learning about a certain object?
User avatar #46900 to #46898 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
a bit, yes
User avatar #46901 to #46900 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
What was the obsession?
User avatar #46902 to #46901 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
Right after the sandy hook incident, I got interested in politics; after that I got interested in guns. I started looking a lot of stuff about guns and my research distracted me from more important things. To such an extent that I blew off my entire last semester of high school and almost didn't graduate.
User avatar #46904 to #46902 - undeadwill (09/03/2013) [-]
Mine was dinosaurs, and weapons.
#46886 to #46884 - valeriya (09/03/2013) [-]
i dont know why i find this as funny as i do...
#46857 - levchenko (09/03/2013) [-]
Hey guys, i'm back from my Perma-Ban!   
How was it being down a Red?   
 Bashar al-Assad did nothing wrong
Hey guys, i'm back from my Perma-Ban!

How was it being down a Red?

Bashar al-Assad did nothing wrong
User avatar #46887 to #46857 - maddboiy (09/03/2013) [-]
I agree with your view of Assad even though i'm right wing
#46888 to #46887 - levchenko (09/03/2013) [-]
See even if we have different views we can still see what is wrong in the world!   
 People will be people you know ;3
See even if we have different views we can still see what is wrong in the world!

People will be people you know ;3
#46855 - pebar (09/03/2013) [-]
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography."
-Ambrose Bierce
#46856 to #46855 - CapnInterwebz (09/03/2013) [-]
This made me laugh and feel sad at the same time
This made me laugh and feel sad at the same time
#46844 - tredbear (09/02/2013) [-]
so what's going on in Iran today?
so what's going on in Iran today?
#46850 to #46844 - rety (09/03/2013) [-]
They are exploring options for enriching uranium so that they can pursue green initiatives and help the planet.
#46852 to #46850 - byposted (09/03/2013) [-]
oy gevalt look at the chutzpah on this goy. The second shoah will help the planet wouldn't it?
User avatar #46845 to #46844 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
Its economy is starting to somewhat stabilize to western sanctions; India will become a major trading partner with them. Iran's new government models the old one so the Jews have not gained an inch.

It's looking good.

User avatar #46846 to #46845 - tredbear (09/02/2013) [-]
Viva Iran!
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User avatar #46842 to #46739 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
FSA genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead FSA..ahahahahahISRAEL WE WILL GET YOU!! israel return to your precious khazaria....hahahahaha idiot zionist and FSA smell so bad..wow i can smell it.

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Song for the Syrian Army - our victory is inevitable
#46843 to #46842 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
"They have to know that Iran and Hezbollah fighters will be fighting with us, hand-in-hand. We have an alliance of protection. We are the resistance axe in the Arab world."

"We are ready for anything. Only God can take our souls, not America or Britain. The US and UK have been threatening us for more than two years now, they think we would care, but they are stupid to think so. We have been fighting the most criminal terrorists in the world and we have not given up or become tired."

"In Damascus, we have registered over 4,000 civilian volunteers in the last 48 hours."

"We have more than 8,000 suicide martyrs within the Syrian army, ready to carry out martyrdom operations at any moment to stop the Americans and the British.

"The Syrian army is fully ready, its finger on the trigger to face any challenge or scenario that they want to carry out."

Good luck Assad; teach these kikes a lesson!
User avatar #46866 to #46843 - kikes (09/03/2013) [-]
He's a disgusting human! He's killed millions of people (nowhere near the amount of Jews at the holocaust). Once he's done with his people he's going to move to G-D's chosen land.
User avatar #46745 to #46739 - pebar (09/02/2013) [-]
that's why so many people are opposed to helping them
User avatar #46721 - pebar (09/02/2013) [-]
Do you think the US will ever go to war with China over the debt?
User avatar #46733 to #46721 - nitsuan (09/02/2013) [-]
The US is China's largest market. You do not punch your best customer in the face.
User avatar #46723 to #46721 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
There are two ways in which the US can find itself at war with China. Neither of them will ever happen.

Unless the Chinese can create a sustainable economy by themselves, then we will never see warfare between China and the US.

Control over East Asia
China's large army is to defend Chinese interests in Asia. This may very well conflict
with US interests in Asia, but war will never come about it for economic reasons. The US will have to deal with not getting their way in East Asia or risk slashing imports by 3/4.
User avatar #46722 to #46721 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
User avatar #46710 - chrisfloyd (09/01/2013) [-]
There should be a law that instead of only preventing just monopolies should also prevent oligopolies. There appears to be too many services that are dominated by two or three main corporations which I believe isn't much healthier for the economy than monopolies are.

Cars: GM, Chrysler, Ford
Beverages: Coke, Pepsi, RC
Computers: Mac, PC
Wireless carriers: AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile
Gaming: Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo
etc etc etc
User avatar #46712 to #46710 - pebar (09/01/2013) [-]
Cartel restrictions exist in anti-trust laws. It's not perfect, but the slight competition is mostly good enough to keep the businesses in check. Further restrictions hurt economies of scale.
User avatar #46714 to #46712 - chrisfloyd (09/01/2013) [-]
Still it's weird that some of the biggest and most influential corporations make the bulk of their money from mixing water and corn syrup and then carbonating it. Shouldn't there be more competition in that field?
User avatar #46716 to #46714 - pebar (09/01/2013) [-]
Competition works best when it's hard to tell products apart.
#46709 - byposted (09/01/2013) [-]
McCain Asspain

Sen. John McCain, appearing Friday on NBC’s “The Tonight Show With Jay Leno,” attacked the United Kingdom for deciding against a coordinated attack on Syria.

“I feel badly about the British. They’re our dear friends, but they’re no longer a world power. It’s just a fact of life.”

Britain hasn't been a world power since after WWII, McCoon. But at least they have some respect left. I can't wait until the House votes no and McCain starts crying.
User avatar #46831 to #46709 - ragnarfag (09/02/2013) [-]
I don't get this picture.
#46832 to #46831 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
Just Germans knowing their place.
User avatar #46833 to #46832 - ragnarfag (09/02/2013) [-]
This explains nothing, elaborate a bit.
User avatar #46834 to #46833 - byposted (09/02/2013) [-]
The Jewish gentleman is bringing reality to the evil racist Germans who are making fun of America. The last panel shows the state of Germans circa 2013.
User avatar #46711 to #46709 - byposted (09/01/2013) [-]

Speaking of that vote, Obommer is setting up his arguments to Republicans for bombing Syria in a meeting with warmongers McCain and Graham.

John Kerry: “I don’t think they will want to vote, ultimately, to put Israel at risk..."
#46695 - feelythefeel (09/01/2013) [-]
ITT: Least favorite of the two American parties. I hate them both with a passion, but I suppose the Democratic party can have the courtesy of filing my taxes instead of sucking my dick like the Republican party.
User avatar #46907 to #46695 - damayo (09/03/2013) [-]
The Dems are the only sensible option IMO. The GOP would just fuck me over in every way possible.
User avatar #46738 to #46695 - undeadwill (09/02/2013) [-]
Republicans without a doubt
User avatar #46713 to #46695 - akkere (09/01/2013) [-]
I don't see any reason to tolerate one more than the other, though I do have a much more fierce dislike for the Republican party on account of some bad experiences I've had with the more extreme of them throughout my life, mixed with how a lot of them treated the Sandy disaster (but that's because the "issue" affected me personally), as well as list of other things, those being the two big reasons.
I get along with the moderates of either party fine, however, because in my experience they can actually hold a discussion instead of filling the forum with banter posts from blogs and now Tumblr.
User avatar #46702 to #46695 - pebar (09/01/2013) [-]
Not a fan of either because both are for big government, but republicans are tolerable.
User avatar #46698 to #46695 - byposted (09/01/2013) [-]
Do you enjoy having your taxes spent on meaningless enterprises? The Demonooger Party can't even manage itself, less so my state.

It is no mistake that Obongo came from Illinois. This place is a shithole.
User avatar #46699 to #46698 - feelythefeel (09/01/2013) [-]
Don't be surprised that I'm not into the Republican party, it's like they're trying to alienate anyone who isn't voting for them regardless of anything.

Also, not my taxes. I'm Canadian. Do you know Canadian politics? Anything you want to say about the parties here? I'm Green, by the way.
User avatar #46700 to #46699 - feelythefeel (09/01/2013) [-]
Although I could be convinced to go NDP maybe.
User avatar #46705 to #46700 - byposted (09/01/2013) [-]
It seems to me that anyone with left principles would not even see any value in the Democrats, whereas the Republicans can still stand for something. As pebar said, they're tolerable.

I have little knowledge of Canada.
User avatar #46694 - roliga (09/01/2013) [-]
I found on tumblr (well more like Gunblr with the blogs I follow) a nice list. If you apply to one or more of the following you do not qualify to talk about gun control. I may have to split this up into several comments because it's kind of long but bare with me.

-You use the term "Assault weapon" to describe certain firearms
-You don't know the difference between semi-automatic and select fire
-You think the AR in AR-15 stands for assault rifle
-You refer to an AR-15 as an assault rifle
-You refer to any semi-automatic weapon as an "assault rifle"
-You use the term "gun-nut" as a derogatory term
-Your knowledge of firearms is based entirely from movies and video games
-You use the term "high-powered" to describe a firearm
-You think a rifle's lethality is determined by things such as stocks, barrel shrouds, flash hiders, pistol grips, and the shoulder things that go up.
User avatar #47044 to #46694 - akkere (09/06/2013) [-]
I find it funny that you bash on liberals, a majority of which banter post from tumblr and blogs that favor their opinions, and then you proceed to do the same exact thing they do.
User avatar #46696 to #46694 - roliga (09/01/2013) [-]
-You don't understand the difference in calibers of ammunition. Example why you shouldn't fire a 5.56 out of a firearm chambered in .223
-You base firearm ownership on what a person needs
-You think the Constitution "gives" you your rights
-You have ever used the 1st amendment to defend your right while saying the 2nd amendment is outdated
-You have ever said the Constitution needs to be scrapped
-You aren't familiar with the practice of carrying magazines and reloading a firearm, but support magazine restrictions
-You believe "well regulated" means "government controlled", learn to 18th century context
-You think the 2nd amendment only applies to muskets but the 1st amendment applies to all forms of communication
-You don't know what a militia is, or you believe the national guard means we have no need or right for militias
-You voted for/support Dianne Feinstein, Carolyn McCarthy, or Michael Bloomberg
-You continuously ask gun owners to compromise yet offer nothing in return other than "letting them keep guns you decided are safer than others"
-You have ever used the phrase "common sense gun control" in support of registration, assault weapon bans, or magazine restrictions
User avatar #46697 to #46696 - roliga (09/01/2013) [-]
-You think an assault weapon ban would have prevented any of the previous mass shootings (See Columbine)
-You think government enforcement prohibitions work in any way shape or form
-You're unaware of the fact that background checks are already mandatory
-You get your news from CNN, MSNBC, HuffingtonPost, or FOX
-You think the Second Amendment has anything to do with protecting slavery
-You get your talking points from the wealthy and media elite who all have their own heavily armed security
-You believe that the same government who was sicking attack dogs on people for just being a different color less than 60 years ago can be trusted with registering everyone's guns
-You believe the government who committed the largest civilian massacre in US history (see Wounded Knee Massacre) can be trusted with registering everyone's guns
-You've ever used the phrase "no one is coming for your guns"
-You've never shot, held, or owned a gun
#46707 to #46697 - pebar (09/01/2013) [-]
>You've never shot, held, or owned a gun   
But I'm poor, I have college expenses, I just got interested in politics a few months ago.   
The gun control debate was what got me interested in politics.
>You've never shot, held, or owned a gun

But I'm poor, I have college expenses, I just got interested in politics a few months ago.
The gun control debate was what got me interested in politics.
User avatar #46740 to #46707 - undeadwill (09/02/2013) [-]
If you got atleast 150 you can buy a surplus rifle.
#46715 to #46707 - valeriya (09/01/2013) [-]
There there, you'll get a rooty-tooty-point-and-shooty eventually.
There there, you'll get a rooty-tooty-point-and-shooty eventually.
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