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#110897 to #110881 - alimais
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(03/21/2016) [-]
Cant Roast The Ghost  Emergency Broadcast  20 March 2016
#110891 to #110881 - kanadetenshi
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(03/21/2016) [-]
He should invite Ben Garrison on.
#110883 to #110881 - unforgivensoul
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I'm so fucking happy right now, I can't even describe it.
#110878 - redandgreen
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(03/20/2016) [-]
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35855616

So, Ian Duncan Smith resigned the other day. How much of this is genuinely about resisting welfare cuts and how much is about the EU referendum do you think?
#110879 to #110878 - valeriya
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(03/20/2016) [-]
See I've been trying to figure that out. I'm naturally cynical of this, there is certainly a political angle to this and we can't discount Europe. But when you think about it, every benefit has been cut aside from pensions which are essentially protected as older people tend to vote conservative and they turnout more regularly. And they make up the largest expense of the DWP... So being asked time and time again find savings, but you can't cut the biggest expense, it's an impossible task in the long run. He isn't as big of an ideologue as say Jeremy Hunt or Osborne he is the conservatives pr nightmare right now, and even before now, he was probably the most hated minister.
#110916 to #110879 - redandgreen
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(03/21/2016) [-]
Him or Gove were probably most hated.

They should probably cut pensions for the very rich. I don't understand why they think it's a good idea to keep cutting taxes if their real aim is to eventually pay down the debt. You'd think they'd be keeping taxes the same if not raising them. Especially fuel taxes which they could put up as prices are low.
#111250 to #110916 - valeriya
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(03/24/2016) [-]
Sorry late reply.

Gove is a mixed bag, and one of those weird Tories who makes no sense, and I agree it makes no sense to cut taxes, and spending when you're trying to control debt and deficit
#110865 - youregaylol
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(03/20/2016) [-]
get your fresh memes here

bonus points if you can name all 9 users involved and which side they're on
#110927 to #110865 - unforgivensoul
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(03/21/2016) [-]
More.
#110873 to #110865 - anon
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Thank you for the good meme
#110857 - Elk
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(03/20/2016) [-]
X doubt
#110875 to #110857 - anon
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(03/20/2016) [-]
#110858 to #110857 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Ted Cruz is predicted to win Utah by a lot apparently
#110859 to #110858 - Elk
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I'm not surprised. I just hope that Trump can get a few delegates from it.
#110849 - feelythefeel
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(03/20/2016) [-]
>liberals are humanitarian
Let's take a look at what liberals have done for Africa lately. After all, of all places where you'd think humanitarians could do the most good, African countries probably take up about a dozen of the top spots. Because of Liberals, Africa can't have

-Agriculture
For many African nations, only GMO crops can survive the harsh local conditions on a scale worth making an industry out of. This, of course, can't be allowed to happen. Apparently eating GMO foods is more unhealthy than starving to death.

-Exotic game hunting
For years, African nations have built local tourist industries out of allowing people to travel over and hunt local predator species. It's more than a matter of money, however, since these predators make a habit of attacking locals indiscriminately when their populations aren't kept in check. It's bad for the lions, though, so saving hundreds of lives is off the table. It may seem weird for a humanitarian to argue against the interests of actual humans, but that's just because you forgot to turn your brain off before you think.

-DDT
DDT is an insecticide that could, among other things, prevent countless cases of malaria. But it's bad for the environment, guise! The only real evidence available on the subject suggests that it may warp bird eggs, but isn't that more important than saving thousands of lives?

-Industry
Africa is the content most untouched by the Industrial Revolution. And now, we can't allow that to change. After all, it'd be bad for the environment that seems to worry "humanitarians" more than the affairs of actual humans.

-Stable government
South Africa and Rhodesia used to be the bread baskets of a continent, absolute gems of sub-Saharan Africa. But just add liberals, and bam! Dysfunctional, backwards regimes in thirty minutes or less.


The great irony of liberals trying to absorb the concept of humanitarianism is that for the past century, there's been no greater or more consistently anti-human plague to the most impoverished continent on Earth than Liberals themselves.
#110850 to #110849 - mixednuts
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(03/20/2016) [-]
GMO crops are not yet being used regularly used for human consumption. At the moment, GMO crops are largely fed to livestock. You'll also find many opponents of GMOs are far-left and would object to being called "Liberals". Either that or they're easily fooled concerned parents of all political persuasions who buy the organic meme. There are also some right-wing NWO fearing types on the anti-GMO train, like David Dees and Ben Garrison for example.

No comment.

Please don't ever say this again. This is a literal shill argument propagated by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, who push second-hand smoke denial and global warming denial alongside DDT conspiracy theories. For one, there aren't blanket bans on DDT in most developing nations, and there are even exceptions to the ban in the United States. The fact of the matter is that the mosquitoes developed a resistance to DDT in areas where it was widely sprayed. In the long run, spraying of DDT was never even as effective as previous malaria prevention methods. Though there were some major success stories in controlled settings, before the mosquitoes had developed a resistance to DDT. By the 1970s, the WHO had abandoned a program of spraying DDT to fight malaria, as it was a miserable failure. scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2005/01/24/ddt/

The problems linked to industrialization in Africa have little if anything to do with environmental legislation. Though there is a growing middle class in some African states, such as Nigeria and Kenya, corruption and poor infrastructure are a major inhibitor to investment for many firms who would otherwise try to cater to them. www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-dolls-idUSBREA0E0K520140115

No comment.
#110919 to #110850 - feelythefeel
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(03/21/2016) [-]
I wasn't necessarily claiming that every one of these issues was exclusively due to liberals, just that said problems would persist if the Liberals had their way. And as for the DDT issue, a blog post isn't a citation.
#110840 to #110835 - anon
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Biggest irony ever, basically Cruz needs to win 4 more states or he is fucked and all Kasich is doing is bending Cruz over backwards.
#110837 to #110835 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
It's things like this that make me hate the republican party. I'm voting republican more than likely, but I despise their party and the way it's ran.
#110853 to #110837 - lotengo
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Dem isn't any better tho
#110832 - anon
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(03/19/2016) [-]
#110862 to #110832 - Zaxplab
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Ben Garrison in a nutshell
#110824 - lotengo
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#110852 to #110824 - thumbfortrump
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I doubt she's serious.
#110831 to #110824 - akkere
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Blood sacrifices and secret cult forces would explain an awful lot.
#110818 - anon
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(03/19/2016) [-]
"Also I'd like to mention child pornography (the nudie picture kind not the sex kind). I'm not a pedo nor would I engage in the consumption of it, but I think child porn is a great and painless way for poor children to get out of poverty or to be treated a little better by abusive parents because now they can make money off them." - /r/Anarcho_Capitalism
#110855 to #110818 - Shiny
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(03/20/2016) [-]
#110833 to #110818 - theism
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(03/19/2016) [-]
"No man, ancap is a legitimate philosophy"
#110828 to #110818 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
don't give any attention to the anarchists
don't give any attention to the anarchists
#110827 to #110818 - kanadetenshi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
>Reddit
#110816 - theism
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(03/19/2016) [-]
There's a very real chance Gawker media will fold. I'm so fucking happy.
#110838 to #110816 - Shiny
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Also known as Breitbart For Liberals™
#110848 to #110838 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I'd think huffpost is more deserving of that title
#110844 to #110838 - theism
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I think you just triggered half the board.
#110834 to #110816 - anon
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Who isnt.
#110836 to #110834 - theism
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Nick Denton.
#110811 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
www.igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel

found an interesting site
it surveys a bunch of economists about a variety of issues

you'll notice 95% of economists agree free trade is a good idea
#110847 to #110811 - kanadetenshi
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(03/20/2016) [-]
Even New Keynesians are supportive of free trade. The only people who really oppose it are anti-globalization socialists and economic nationalists, neither who have any actual respected economists to back them up.
#110808 - unforgivensoul
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Post yours.
#110830 to #110808 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
file didn't save well
#110839 to #110830 - anon
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(03/20/2016) [-]
>dislike all of Europe except Swissland
Is it the socialism?

Also I'm curious on the Bosnia and France hate.
#110841 to #110839 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I'm pretty sure Switzerland is not socialist
#110842 to #110841 - unforgivensoul
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(03/20/2016) [-]
No I was asking why you disliked all of Europe except Swissland.
#110843 to #110842 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/20/2016) [-]
I don't dislike all of europe, just eastern europe


and France
#110846 to #110809 - thumbfortrump
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(03/20/2016) [-]
>Poland over Denmark

Don't be a pleb
#110877 to #110846 - unforgivensoul
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(03/20/2016) [-]
>Denmark
>Literally Sweden light

Are you sure you want to argue about this?
#110880 to #110877 - thumbfortrump
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(03/20/2016) [-]
>Literally Sweden light

Not really if you think that statement holds even a minimum of truth.

You even put Austria above Denmark, even though they're even more immigrant friendly than Denmark.
#110791 - Elk
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(03/19/2016) [-]
#110789 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Is Eating Animals A Personal Choice
#110804 to #110789 - lotengo
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(03/19/2016) [-]
While i agree that its far from idea, a lot of people depend on meat, dairy and egs for nutrition either way. I have a peannut allergy not severe, im not gonna die , where am i supposed to get my proteins from?

Kids need it to grow. And its still a human right, you can't fight it. If you really want to help the enviorment, send a boatload of condoms to African and Middle-Eastern countries and India.

If you want to help suffering animals, fight halal slaughter
#110819 to #110804 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
There are alternatives. Personally, I wouldn't ditch meat itself, but even now, I try to avoid other animal products occasionally. Mostly because if you think about it, they're pretty disgusting.
Halal slaughter isn't even the most cruel practice by the average slaughterhouse, unfortunately.
#110820 to #110819 - lotengo
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(03/19/2016) [-]
just ending those industry's. Besides the loss of jobs, cause protein to be a luxury not everybody can afford, not even in the west.

#110821 to #110820 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I'm not calling for a ban on the industry, but I think it would be a good thing if it started to fade out. If anything, I'd just advocate for a push to make it fade out by itself and be replaced. While the alternatives couldn't make such low prices, I suppose it would still be around.
#110822 to #110821 - lotengo
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Maybe that protein out of bugs thing is something to look into.
IF you can get people to eat it i mean.

Growing 1kg of bugs is way cheaper than growing 1kg of veal, pork or chicken. And bugs dont feel pain like mammals do
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomophagy
#110823 to #110822 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I guess I could give the crickets a try because I assume they'd be crunchy. I'd never try the worms though, they look disgusting.
#110825 to #110823 - lotengo
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I have actually eaten small grasshoppers(or crickets im not sure) and mealworms. Both very crunch.
I remember both to be more than a tad try, and the grasshoppers/crickets had a nutty flavor.
The mealworms are a bit longer ago, and i only tried them individually, so i dont fully remember their taste, but kinda bland, not a strong flavor if i recall correctly.
#110801 to #110789 - thumbfortrump
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(03/19/2016) [-]
This cunt just doesn't get that the liberty of the individual comes before anything else, as long as that person does not infringe upon someone else's liberty.

I am all for people raising awareness about environment or animal protection.
And to a certain degree a minimum standard of animal protection should be guaranteed.
But beyond that point, one shouldn't kid themselves into thinking that human rights and animal rights are equal. Because they are not.
#110817 to #110801 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I think she understands that. Some liberties and rights are more important than others. The liberties for humans in this case is to eat a specific kind of food when we have alternatives. For the animals, it's the right to live a decent life as opposed to a life of slavery (pretty much).
#110792 to #110789 - kanadetenshi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
All dat collectivism tho.

Real talk though i am a vegan myself (and i just ruined the little reputation i had on this board), so i understand her arguments. Problem is what are her solutions?

I can think of four:

1. Raise awareness
2. Use government to tax, restrict, or ban meat consumption
3. Make vegan food an industry that can properly compete against meat
4. Focus on innovation with in vitro meat

The first one is already happening and it's noble, but it's hardly going to change most people's minds.

The second one would be incredibly Orwellian and likely lead to a rise in giant black market meat industries which opposed to farms who treat their animals more humane are not going to be so nice to the animals.

The third one is also already happening, restaurants becoming more vegan, creating proper alternatives, ect. But not at a massive scope yet.

The fourth is the idea that i support the most. In vitro meat means that the billions of animals killed would be reduced massively since only few are needed, which would reduce environmental waste, increase far more profit since they don't have to breed and feed animals, which as a result would also lower the price of meat making it more affordable for the poor. Of course in vitro meat is still quite at it's early stages but i can definitely see it inevitably replacing the current meat industry.
#110812 to #110792 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
u'r a wat
#110829 to #110812 - kanadetenshi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
In my defense it started largely for dietary reasons.
#110803 to #110792 - unforgivensoul
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(03/19/2016) [-]
>trap
>vegan
>anarcho-capitalist
>lives in a very cucked country

Jesus Christ the stereotype is real.
#110826 to #110803 - kanadetenshi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I'm not an ancap tho.
#110794 to #110792 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/19/2016) [-]
1- Agree.

2- I'd make it so that animals are required to have a decent living and the killing was much more humane (like requiring that thing that's meant to point out at cows' heads and give them a fatal shot), but I wouldn't go as far as to prohibit them from being killed. The average consumer wouldn't directly notice these restrictions.

3- True. One of the things that is happening in my country, though, is that milk is being less consumed at a significant rate (not dairy products, just milk). Some don't drink milk, others drink soy milk or something else (I prefer almond milk myself).

4- I hope so. One of the biggest issues with meat consumption besides the treatment of animals is the environmental impact, like the huge amount of resources used and emission of methane to the athmosphere.
#110788 - anon
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Brazil In Chaos Protests Swell to Millions of People what do you think?
pic unrelated.
#110779 - topoftherock
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(03/19/2016) [-]
has anyone else noticed that anonymous is kinda getting SJW?
#110813 to #110779 - pebar ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
it always has been
the whole point of the "anonymous" label was to be able to voice an opinion people disagree with without the social backlash

but then they doxx people they disagree with
#110780 to #110779 - figatron ONLINE
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Was it ever not?
#110781 to #110780 - topoftherock
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(03/19/2016) [-]
i thought they were pretty level headed until recently
#110783 to #110781 - lotengo
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(03/19/2016) [-]
probably a few high ranking bernfags hiding behind the 'post as anon' option to avoid being ripped apart in the discussions. Because honestly, most political discussions are being won by conservatives on this site.
#110798 to #110783 - topoftherock
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(03/19/2016) [-]
i didnt mean fj anon, i meant the hacker collective Anonymous
#110800 to #110798 - lotengo
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Ohhh yea.
Uhm, that 'hacker collective' is mainly Tumblr and Reddit now
#110805 to #110800 - Shiny
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Just going after Trump and Ferguson aren't quite SJW level since these exact same people went after people like Anita Richards.
#110778 - anon
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I'll keep my moral and political beliefs to a limit here and say that I've had a hard time finding somebody I agree with to vote for. This has been ongoing, but Obama really made it clear who I wanted as president; Emperor Palpatine. Emphasis on the Emperor part, I want the strong leader with clear goals and motivations, that strives for greatness. It's the evil I know, the evil I understand and while I disagree with it, it's a step up from what we, as Americans, keep getting offered.

Trump is, as far as I know, the closest thing I'll ever get to this. It's my realistic compromise that I'll never get a GOOD leader, so settling for an evil one I want Emperor Palpatine. The sudden rise of the "Emperor Trump" meme just made it all the funnier to me in a dark comedy sorta way.
#110799 to #110778 - akkere
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(03/19/2016) [-]
Actually, the Emperor had pretty ambigious goals. For one thing, he had no idea what he actually wanted to do with super-weapons. At first it seemed like he was perfectly fine with just using the Death Star as Grand Moff Tarkin presumed it should've been for; a deterrence and nothing more. But then he started making subtle additions to the super-weapon by deciding to already start building a second Death Star long before the Rebellion even attacked the first one.
Then there's the fact he had no consistent idea with how to deal with dark force users. At one point he decided to set up an inquisition to help kill or convert light-force users, and then he decided to just have Vader do a blanket-killing of anyone carrying a lightsaber in general, regardless of force orientation.
And then there's the also the fact that he didn't even do most of the political restructuring; that was thanks to Sate Pestage for cunning networking, and Mas Amedda for handling things Senate-side in preparation for the transition to an Empire.
The Emperor simply made the galaxy co-dependent on him and his highest ranking henchmen, he didn't really build a strong Empire because so much of it was reliant on him using the Force to supplement the skills and talents for many officers, so much so that when he died, they fought like shit. This is evident by the utter crushing defeat on Endor. It wasn't until someone like Grand Admiral Thrawn (who you might actually want to think of in regards to strong and independent leadership) came to actually build a strong force for the Rebellion/New Republic to reckon with that didn't run on force power.

TL;DR The Emperor was a cunning power taker, but not the most efficient leader, as he needed help in the long run. A lot of it.
#110785 to #110778 - thumbfortrump
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(03/19/2016) [-]
But Trump is a force of light, justice and good.
He doesn't want to take your freedom, as the memesters claim, he wants to give it back to you.

If you want an evil Emperor you should cast your vote in Shillary.
#110776 - feelythefeel
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(03/19/2016) [-]
/videogames/1409145#1409145

You guys would probably be interested in this.
#110777 to #110776 - youregaylol
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(03/19/2016) [-]
I enjoyed ckii, though im not sure about this one

im not a fan of sci fi strategy games