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#111872 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
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Advice to Women Protesting Trump.
My Advice to Women Protesting Trump
#111884 to #111872 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Right wing subhumans need to be gunned down.
#111903 to #111884 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
ALL subhumans need to be gunned down.
#111863 - theism
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Because you know that's not an actual police state.

(This was not endorsed by Trump as far as I know)
#111882 to #111863 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(03/31/2016) [-]
How about instead of making veterans into the secret police we use actual programs and organizations like ICE, which Trump has said he will expand to help deport the 11 million illegals in the country.

Also Ted Cruz said he wouldn't support a "deportation force", but instead he'd support ICE deporting people.... ????????
#111879 to #111863 - lotengo
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(03/31/2016) [-]
I've been on the fence between Bernie and Trump for a week, 10 days tops. But been on the Trump side ever since
But i just have to say that this sounds... AWESOME
GOD I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT SO BAD
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#111880 to #111879 - theism
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(03/31/2016) [-]
It's probably demoralizing as he'll busting down people's doors with the rest of the gestapo. And how do you flip flop between beanie and trump?
#111868 to #111863 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
"Says he will have a deportation force. But how will he do that? "

Isn't that what ICE is for?
#111869 to #111868 - theism
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Apparently the ICE isn't doing enough. IDK.
#111862 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Germany Crosses the Demographic RUBICON 2035s a MINORITY by 2020
#111861 - pebar
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The modern academy pays lip service to diversity. Yet as a "stigmatized minority," the authors note, right-of-center professors feel pressure to hide their identities, in many cases consciously emulating gays in similarly hostile environments. "I am the equivalent of someone who was gay in Mississippi in 1950," a prominent full professor told Shields and Dunn. He’s still hiding because he hopes for honors that depend on maintaining his colleagues’ good will. "If I came out, that would finish me," he said.
reason.com/blog/2016/03/30/being-conservative-in-academia-like-bein
#111870 to #111861 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
This is why I got my degree in Economics. Professors could not only freely support the free market, they could prove that they were right in believing so. (I don't know if right of center applies since most of the economics faculty at my college were libertarians but still)
#111849 - hadrian
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#111873 to #111849 - thumbfortrump
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(03/31/2016) [-]
>username hadrian
>not wanting to build wall
#111858 to #111849 - pebar
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#111856 to #111849 - anon
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Libertarianism Rising Johnson Polls at Double Digits
#111850 to #111849 - mixednuts
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(03/31/2016) [-]
#FeeltheJohnson
#111837 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(03/30/2016) [-]
"There should be punishment for women choosing to have illegal abortions"

UGH, OH MY GOD DRUMPF, HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE BE PUNISHED FOR COMMITTING CRIMES?????? UGH. HOW COULD WE LET THIS FASCIST GET AWAY WITH THESE THINGS????
#111854 to #111837 - mixednuts
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Bodily autonomy is under attack from Republican state legislators who want to punish people for having sex and Donald's first reaction is anger towards the women so desperate that they turn to back alley abortions knowing that their risky.

Yeah, fuck off. Nice simplification.
#111885 to #111854 - unforgivensoul
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Nice simplification too. I'm for abortions and I understand all the consequences of not doing them. But there is a point in time where having an abortion makes you a despicable piece of shit. Just look at what that popcornviking guy said, he wants to kill fetuses that can feel pain without even giving them anesthesia. That's soulless shit.

As far as I understand, most states have first 20 weeks legal, so anyone doing illegal abortions would be doing them with a 5 month+ year old baby in their womb. I'm assuming you don't harbor radical opinions in abortions, so you should clearly see why people like me can be concerned.
#111887 to #111885 - PopcornViking
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(03/31/2016) [-]
I'm against making women pay for the anesthesia
#111888 to #111887 - unforgivensoul
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(03/31/2016) [-]
uhhh no, you said you didn't want to give anesthesia to fetuses because they were gonna "die anyways". That's soulless shit.
#111891 to #111888 - PopcornViking
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(03/31/2016) [-]
right

so anesthesia is a waste of money, morally correct or not
#111904 to #111891 - unforgivensoul
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Yet you support the right for animals to receive a humane death before consumption right? Would you be ok if cows were killed by knifing them in the stomach till death?
#111907 to #111904 - PopcornViking
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(03/31/2016) [-]
i didnt know you ate fetus's

if you want to give the fetus' anesthesia, thats fine
but you cant make the women pay extra for it
#111909 to #111907 - unforgivensoul
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(03/31/2016) [-]
A) you didn't answer my question. Don't ignore it, answer what I asked you
B) whether I eat it is regardless of whether it deserves a humane death or not, that's entirely irrelevant. God you sound like a horrible person when you argue like this
C) "but you cant make the women pay extra for it" ...why not?
#111912 to #111909 - PopcornViking
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(03/31/2016) [-]
no, i wouldnt be ok with that

but a fetus isnt even a human yet
different animals that we eat have much more sentience than a fetus such as pigs
i wouldnt call the killing floors a humane death for animals tho

you are right in the the fetus' deserve a humane death
but millions of women all around the country can barely afford abortions as is, and now youre going to make them pay extra to do it humanely
thats pretty hypocritical if youre against raising taxes
#111914 to #111912 - unforgivensoul
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(03/31/2016) [-]
>no, i wouldnt be ok with that
Good, you're a hypocrite though. Fetuses deserve the same right as cows to a humane death

>but a fetus isnt even a human yet
Yet an animal isn't humane too, however you say it deserves a humane death because it can feel pain. Well so can fetuses, they may not be "human", but they also deserve humane deaths because they can feel pain like cows.

>different animals that we eat have much more sentience than a fetus such as pigs
So the less sentience, the less humane the death? Weird, I thought we do it because they can feel pain. Again, an irrelevant argument.

>i wouldnt call the killing floors a humane death for animals tho
Exactly, I wouldn't call ripping a fetus out without anesthesia a humane death for a fetus "tho"

>but millions of women all around the country can barely afford abortions as is, and now youre going to make them pay extra to do it humanely

Another irrelevant argument, money should have nothing to do with our morality. Just because it costs more, doesn't mean its ok. Also I don't think its going to cost a significantly more amount.

>thats pretty hypocritical if youre against raising taxes
No idea what your point is here.


#111916 to #111914 - PopcornViking
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(03/31/2016) [-]
i just said a fetus deserves a humane death
and so do animals
and neither get humane deaths right now

all im saying is that it shouldnt cost extra to do so

#111917 to #111916 - unforgivensoul
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If you're trying to say that the government should pay for it, then you must therefore believe that the government should pay for an abortion because the anesthesia is part of it.

I disagree with making the government pay for abortion, therefore I disagree with making the government pay for anesthesia.
#111878 to #111854 - pebar
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(03/31/2016) [-]
democrats don't give a rat's ass about bodily autonomy
#111953 to #111878 - mixednuts
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(04/01/2016) [-]
That's all well and good, but I'm not a Democrat. I vote Democrat out of convince

I don't care about trans-fats
What is "demeaning labor"? In fact let's not even get into that, because it has nothing to do with abortion.
I don't want to get into hard drugs and prostitution either. Because I generally believe that they should be decriminalized but you'd probably like to see those markets far less regulated than I would and that is also another conversation to have.
"Sin taxes" harm the poor more than they discourage vice.

Not everything can be approached from the same angle. An abortion is a choice that effects a woman and her boyfriend/husband. Lowering labor standards or allowing pimping and unlicensed drug dealing have externalities.

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#111859 to #111854 - youregaylol
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(03/31/2016) [-]
GIF
>uses simplification
>Yeah, fuck off. Nice simplification.
#111855 to #111854 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(03/31/2016) [-]
"so desperate that they turn to back alley abortions knowing that their risky. "
BACK ALLEY ABORTIONS ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL.
YOU CAN ALREADY BE PUNISHED FOR THAT.
THERE ARE LEGAL ABORTIONS AND ILLEGAL ABORTIONS. YOU GET A LEGAL ONE- THE THING DONALD TRUMP'S BEEN ABOUT FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE- THEN FINE. YOU GET AN ILLEGAL ONE- WHICH HE WAS ASKED ABOUT TONIGHT- THEN YOU'RE PUNISHED.
#111857 to #111855 - mixednuts
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Abortion clinics are being closed en mass across states like Ohio and Texas by legislators while assembly members in Indiana are forcing women to carry children with down syndrome to term.

While this is going on to be calling out illegal abortions, while being quite about the effective outlawing of safe legal abortions is a clear dog whistle to the anti-choice crowd.
#111877 to #111857 - pebar
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if democrats were as pro-choice on everything else as they are on abortion, they wouldn't be democrats

like the law mandating abortion doctors have hospital admitting privileges within a 30 mile radius.

If this were any other industry, democrats would be cheering the law as a protection for customers from the evil greedy corporations would have abortions performed in septic tanks if it weren't for the generous protection of the government

and likewise republicans would be damning it as destroying businesses and jobs, which you can see the effect of right now. This is exactly what the pro-choice crowd is saying.
#111954 to #111877 - mixednuts
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(04/01/2016) [-]
I don't entirely disagree with you on this.

Democrats have done this with tobacco, particularly the Phillip Morris Company. But "any other industry" is a stretch. I don't think their are too many Democrats out there pushing for laws that force restaurants or retail stores to be located within 30 miles of their distributors.
#111860 to #111857 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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"Anti-choice"

In their mind it's "anti-baby killing". The left doesn't consider the fetus an individual with rights and focuses on the mother, while the right is more concerned about the fetus itself.

In my opinion if you have sex, you assume the risk of conception and should be required to carry the child to term with exceptions for rape, children who can be proven to have a disease that will give them a low quality of life, or pregnancies that threaten the life of the mother.
#111944 to #111860 - redandgreen
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It isn't as simple as 'left' and 'right'. Lots of Christian Democrats are economically on the left but anti-abortion.
#111945 to #111944 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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That's usually the case though. I understand it's not black and white, but generally speaking, people on the right are pro-life and the people on the left are pro-choice.
#111875 to #111860 - pebar
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I've never understood the rape exception....

if the reason abortion is bad to begin with is because a fetus is a person and has a right to live that the government must protect

why would it being conceived by rape change its that?
Is it not still alive?
Does it being created through rape mean a fetus doesn't have a right to life?

If it's a person, rape shouldn't matter
If it's a person, it having a disease wouldn't matter

if it's not a person, mind your own business
if you ever think there are exceptions to abortion, besides the life of the mother, then you obviously don't consider the fetus to be a person
#111871 to #111860 - mixednuts
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"Anti-Choice" does have an emotional weight to it, as it's something I feel strongly about. In my opinion "anti-abortion" would probably be a more evenhanded phrase. I would rather not use "pro-life" as most people who apply the term to themselves could not give less of a shit after birth.

Though I strongly disagree with it, I can understand where people come from in opposing all abortions, or only making exceptions in cases where the mother's life could be at risk.

I don't get that point of view. I'd imagine that there's far more harm in hundreds of thousands or even millions of children being brought up by parents who consider them to be negative consequences than there is in allowing people to have relatively consequence free sex. (As the possibility of contracting STDs still exists). People appeal to personal responsibility, but it often feels to me like it comes from a negative view of sex.
#111886 to #111871 - unforgivensoul
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Actually I think the reason people oppose all abortion would be that they think the fetus is a baby, not sex. I thought that was pretty obvious.
#111955 to #111886 - mixednuts
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That's what I'm saying. There's at least a logical consistency for people who oppose all abortions. But for people who make rape and disease exceptions, it's unusual. Though they argue for personal responsibility, I sometimes feel that it actually comes from a negative view of sex.

Pebar hits the nail on the head in his above comment.
#111876 to #111871 - pebar
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(03/31/2016) [-]
>could not give less of a shit after birth.

negative rights vs positive rights
learn the difference
#111844 to #111837 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Cruz Scandal Hillary on Debating Trump on Abortion Two Party System Declines Further
#111843 to #111837 - anon
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#111826 - pebar
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(03/30/2016) [-]
FJ, Trump is shit cue the red thumbs
But Hillary is shit too

So let's talk about the spoiler effect
If you don't recognize the same, the spoiler effect is when a 3rd part splits the vote of the next closest main party which allows the most opposing party to gain the most votes. Right now, Gary Johnson is polling double digits in the general election, which is rare, and most of his votes are coming from the right because of the #nevertrump crowd. Some people like Milo are hoping that Trump will destroy the republican party so much a libertarian-ish party will rise up and take its place.

But back to the spoiler effect specifically, Ben Shapiro denies that a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Hillary. But even if it were, he says moral lines need to be drawn with who people will not vote for. He says Trump crosses that line.

Thoughts?
#111864 to #111826 - theism
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(03/31/2016) [-]
How well is Gary Johnson polling? I haven't heard a single thing about him in the media, which is odd if he's polling well.
#111865 to #111864 - pebar
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(03/31/2016) [-]
relatively well, for a 3rd party candidate
#111867 to #111865 - theism
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11% is pretty good for a liberterian candidate. That sound pretty good actually. Reading Gary Johnson's positions he sounds pretty good.
#111841 to #111826 - seniorawesomesauce ONLINE
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I think the "destruction" of the Republican Party is ridiculous, it's being turned on its head and it's going to be reshaped and there will be A LOT of fallout about it, but in some ways the same thing is happening in the Democratic Party as well. But "destruction" implies a complete disappearance which I can't see happening.

Ben Shapiro is too smart to know that a 3rd party vote ISN'T a vote for the "enemy". That's very clear and has always been, at least in America. I'm almost 100% confident that after Trump wins the nomination (he will, and he will do it by reaching 1,237 delegates), people will warm up to him. Very quickly. People like Chris Christie (who said Donald was "unfit' to be president) and Ben Carson (who doesn't necessarily defend that he ISN'T racist, but defends that he's best for the country) did the same thing. And once the general election arrives between Hillary and Trump occurs, and people see how Hillary reacts to the kind of pressure Trump puts on her, they will quickly change their tune. Once Donald steps up to the plate he'll hit a home run every single time and she really won't have too much dirt on him without him exposing a hell of a lot more on her. And this "moral lines" argument is nonsense because a lot of the "moral wrongdoings" Donald's committed have been over-exaggerated and almost lied about by the media.
#111829 to #111826 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I'm close by to the Milo camp. There are many things I like about trump, like more secured borders, stronger foreign policy, and a reinvigorated military. But there are many things I really really dislike.

I think that trump ultimately leads a movement that will be beneficial for American politics and the republicans.
#111833 to #111829 - pebar
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(03/30/2016) [-]
How much military is enough military?
#111836 to #111833 - thumbfortrump
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You can't have enough military.
#111834 to #111833 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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Enough to defend ourselves and our nation's interests. This is obviously subjective depending on who you are talking to. Personally I don't think we need to spend more than what we are, we just need to spend more efficiently.
#111830 to #111829 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Guns or Butter?
#111832 to #111830 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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We can afford both guns and butter. Both are necessary.
#111835 to #111832 - valeriya
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Yes you can afford both but think of it like this, you can't have more of one without sacrificing more of the other. Each dollar thrown into the military is a dollar not thrown into education, or infrastructure, or police etc and the military is an investment with very little returns. Strong Foreign policy costs money and alienates other nations, and I think it's a little bit of a real problem the US faces of figuring out it's balance in foreign policy. Iraq and Afgahnistan are pretty prominent in the press as an example of how not to foreign policy. Really I think Trump will be a disaster for the foreign policy stage.
#111838 to #111835 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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Yes, that's common sense really. The military can indirectly contribute to economic gain through technological developments and a more stable diplomatic stage. Like I told Pebar, I'm not advocating an increase in military spending.

And Afghanistan has actually been going fairly well, but Iraq was a disaster from a premature removal of US forces. That's a pretty deep topic to get into.

I believe that personally foreign policy wise you can't get much worse than Obama, and I'll take a tough-talking salesman over him. I think he'll be an improvement at the very least.
#111840 to #111838 - valeriya
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Understandable, but well frankly military need should not be a driving technological innovator, think is the government can fill that void quite easily. (We can argue about the effectiveness all day long)

Afghanistan is still a mess, it's still currently mired in corruption and a civil war to some extent, less of an extent then previously but it still is a breeding ground for extremism Iraq was going to be a mess, since the US and allies essentially ripped a state apart which they'd previously supported on a falsified pretext and three weeks later claimed mission accomplished and spent years trying to rebuild a state whilst not eradicating the previous regime fully (Most of the ISIS leadership is former ba'ath party of Iraq and Iraqi military), whilst fighting an insurgency... Yeah that was never going to end in the favour of the US...

I think Obamas foreign policy is best described as a stop-gap measure. He's not willing to invest into further wars, especially when you consider that wars no longer require lots of manpower, so much as they require lots of money. His though process seems to be "Do we need to place this other nation in check." "No." "Do nothing then" Which admittedly isn't necessarily the best way to approach things. I don't think a tough-salesman with the grace of an elephant at a tea party will be even remotely competent in the diplomatic world. He will make you a lot more enemies, and alienate a lot of your friends even further.
#111845 to #111840 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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In a perfect world I would agree. But competition spurs innovation, and conflict is extremely competitive.

And Iraq wasn't based on a falsified pretext, there was serious reason to believe that Saddam was pursuing nuclear weapons, and he'd shown before that he was willing to use WMDs. UN representatives were sent to inspect Iraqi facilities many times and were turned away. Not to mention that there were stockpiles of WMDs found that we knew he had already that were ready to fire. Plus Saddam knew we were going to invade, and there were convoys moving from those facilities to areas in Syria for weeks, so while I doubt there were nukes on those convoys, there was something he didn't want us to find. Mission Accomplished was caked after the Saddam regime was toppled and the occupation began. It wasn't marking when the conflict was over.

I agree on this last one to an extent, but Obama's policies have further alienated us and in many ways shown us as weak. His recent dealings with Iran and Cuba come to mind.
#111847 to #111845 - valeriya
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Don't need a perfect world for this one, just one where we are less keen on killing each other. Great inventions are often prestigious enough to warrant them on their own.

I've never read anything of post first gulf war armaments being found in Iraq en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1441#Aftermath I very much doubt he was stupid enough to go after nuclear armaments after the arse kicking he got for utilizing chemical weapons.

Depends on who you are, he originally was happy to play nice with Russia, after Bush 2 sided with Georgia over a Russian incursion following Georgian attacks on Peacekeepers. Then the wholke Ukraine thing happened and ruined that. Some of the US's allies are well, liabilities. eg, The Baltic states, not great economically, not strong military literally their only bonus is their geography. I know Obama is somewhat popular in the UK since Bush was near universally hated. He's not really rocked the boat. Thing with Cuba is, mostly trying to fix something that makes absolutely no sense from a pragmatic point of view, literally the shitty relations are solely because a revolution overthrew a US puppet. Iran... It's not bad but it's far from good. I think the idea is almost like the Munich agreement peace in our time... Provided one party keeps their word.
#111848 to #111847 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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And we've been seeing that actually, the number of people dying due to warfare is at its lowest ever and still declining. Though like you mentioned before the fact that we use less manpower might be a contributor to that. But I think that as time goes on, we get further away from the cold war and nations like North Korea ultimately collapses, or China stabilizes or crashes, depending on how you view their mountains of debt and hazardous spending we'll see the military become less of a need, and we'll see private organizations that are interested in space development like Tesla/SpaceX become a leading innovator.

And I was referring to the Saren gas, that's what I've consistently read about. But my argument is more about looking at the situation before the invasion. In a Post 9/11 America where tensions are still running very high and you look at the interactions with Iraq before the war, you can see how we could justify it in my opinion. Knowing what we know now, it was obviously a bad idea. I'm mainly irked by the "Bush wanted the oil" people.

And without getting into the details, I don't think Cuba is anywhere near the forefront of Americans minds and Obama wanted to be the one to break the sanctions on Cuba to gain international prestige, same can go for Iran. And while trade is good and will aid those nations and help them become more developed, I don't think we should be helping those sorts of states, Iran especially. I 100% agree about some of our "allies" being liabilities too cough cough Saudi Arabia cough cough
#111851 to #111848 - valeriya
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Dying is one thing surviving traumatic Medical sense injuries is at an all time high, mostly because emergency medicine, and battlefield medicine are getting more and more advanced. I've worked in both fields

Perceptions are confusing, and the ability to understand the legitimacy of other peoples narratives is key, something I think became a luxary.

It reflects well on the united states in general as well as Obama, whether they realize it is another matter. Trading with those nations isn't really the same as helping them, trade with Cuba isn't saying "We endorse everything your regime stands for" Otherwise you wouldn't trade with the sauds, or Syria pre-2011. And regime change has shown itself to be a bad foreign policy...
#111853 to #111851 - marinepenguin ONLINE
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(03/31/2016) [-]
Good points all around. I enjoyed this discussion.

Could you elaborate on how you've worked in those medical and battlefield areas? I'm actually in training for military and have a decent chance of deploying to Afghanistan, Iraq we still have large numbers of people going there, whether or not we officially say so or whatever conflict they want to throw me into.
#111881 to #111853 - valeriya
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I did as well.

Sure, served in the Russian Army to get money for university in the UK, served in the North Caucasus military district for the most part 2005-2009. But anyway, the main bulk of problems stem from being able to get people back to facilities. where you chances of living become a lot higher. My part was basically to make sure there was someone out with every patrol or go myself.So long as we were well supplied and had the necessary support, things would usually go fine iuf sometimes hilarious when things don't go to plan One of my guys once had his designed tourniquet fail so he had him lit down with his leg against a tree, with one end of cloth tied above his wound and the other end nailed to the tree... .

It's another story when your supplies aren't great and you have no means of removing wounded soldiers. Worst was working out of a hospital basement, with mrls firing at you meaning you can't even get more water, or when your pretty much scavenging around for paracetamol and codeine mixtures and bleach and hard choices have to be made. Yeah not great. Also not sure if this applies to the US armed forces, but don't piss off your medical attachment.
#111831 to #111830 - pebar
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#111827 to #111826 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I think this election is a win no matter what. Agents of chaos like Trump do more good than harm.

The republican party desperately NEEDS chaos to spice things up and make it better.

"Necessary Evil"
#111828 to #111827 - pebar
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(03/30/2016) [-]
So you're in the Milo camp then?
#111839 to #111828 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Of course!
#111815 - alimais
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Now that weird campaign manager/female reporter thing got interesting

/Rape+on+cnn/youtube/5874544/
#111816 to #111815 - thumbfortrump
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Nice someone uploaded it, so goddamn hilarious.
#111817 to #111816 - shekelnator
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(03/30/2016) [-]
the man cant get stumped no matter how people try. how hard for some degenerates to see trump being US president?
#111819 to #111817 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I remember a few months ago you were very anti-Trump, what changed?
#111820 to #111819 - shekelnator
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(03/30/2016) [-]
thumbfortrump and 4chan red pilled me.
#111821 to #111820 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Good goy.
#111823 to #111821 - shekelnator
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(03/30/2016) [-]
im surprised the media doesnt show this
#111824 to #111823 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
What reason do they have to like Trump lol?
#111825 to #111824 - shekelnator
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(03/30/2016) [-]
dey Americans n sheeit? you see, most Muslims are brainwashed by the corrupted media that trump will ban Muslims FOREVER! while he clearly said he will ban them temporary until he filters the good guys from the bad guys and who supports them and who dont.

and these muslim boys are the one who understood trump intention clearly and i supports him too.
#111818 to #111817 - thumbfortrump
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Reality can be a real smack in the face when you've lived your whole life in an imaginary world.
#111822 to #111818 - shekelnator
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(03/30/2016) [-]
i want him to win. i want to see the world reaction from USA to KSA. especially KSA. it wont be good news! but good news for us all : D
#111814 - shekelnator
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(03/30/2016) [-]
r8 my modified meme. Syrian civil war explained in one pic.
#111799 - pebar
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#111789 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
My love poem to valeriya

I want to hate fuck the communism out of your cunt, blat my load all over your face

I will bust your ass open with my capitalistic cock

I will ruin you like the pathetic dick addict you are

You will be my number 1 slut, i will bounce your pussy on my cock all day, everyday

You will be my cum rag, my cum princess, my jizz dumpster

I will show you that material possessions are great by making you my material possession, my fucktoy

We will rut like animals for days, I will fertilize your vagina with my magnum dong so you will birth my children

Dont deny your love for me slut, we were meant to be

-Love theism
#111813 to #111789 - theism
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Ty bby.
#111796 to #111789 - jewishcommunazi
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#111785 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
That moment you realize ISIS is a Ultra-Conservative Nationalistic Right wing movment.
#111801 to #111785 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I wouldn't say they're nationalistic. They like destroying historical sites and relics and practically want to wipe out the history of these nations they're trying to overtake, including the nations they live in. They want to preserve no country and instead want to rebuild the world according to their own desires.

Replacing Nationalistic with Theocratic would be more accurate.
#111786 to #111785 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
On a serious note though, the reason I say ISIS is ultra conservative right wing is because they would hang homosexuals like myself.

I could be giving oral pleasure to my lover Troyquan and some right wing nazi muslim will cut my head off, basically ISIS are republicans.
#111782 - pebar
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Globalisation is Good  Johan Norberg on Globalisationfull video
#111866 to #111782 - undeadwill
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(03/31/2016) [-]
I'll have to watch this later
#111767 - youregaylol
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#111787 to #111767 - lotengo
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(03/30/2016) [-]
we should be talking about the cute doggy in the window
#111741 - feelythefeel
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#111803 to #111741 - redandgreen
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Yes. You are all the wrong.
#111798 to #111741 - jewishcommunazi
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Looks unrealistic as fuck. But then again, changing borders isn't very relistic in the first place.
#111790 to #111741 - thumbfortrump
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(03/30/2016) [-]
The only one I could see working is a Nordic union.

All memes aside they're the most civic and developed people of Europe, and their culture, language and values are very much alike.

I don't know enough about the others to say if they'd work or not.
#111795 to #111790 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Finland would be tough since their language is very very different from Swedish, Norwegian, and Danish which are all pretty close
#111797 to #111795 - thumbfortrump
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(03/30/2016) [-]
yeah okay missed Finland, that's just retarded.
#111776 to #111741 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Nordic countries love their rivalries
Yugoslavia is destined to fail
Poland and Germany into 1 country - LOL
Cyprus is divided by the west and Turkey - all 3 are not going to be 1 entity
Ireland won't join the empire again nor will Belarus, Armenia, or Georgia join Russia again with the exception of South Ossetia
Moldova, more specifically Transnistria, would join Ukraine, and not Romania
Moroccans dislike Algerians because they're too radical
Somalia is a failed state, Ethiopia and Eritrea are not, you'd just be fucking up those countries even more
Not sure what you're doing in West Africa
They don't speak French in Liberia
Israel will absolutely never be a part of Egypt, Lebanon, eat
The rest of the Saudi peninsula would never join with Yemen






#111791 to #111776 - thumbfortrump
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Nordic countries is feasible.
#111779 to #111776 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Southern Belgium would join France
Northern Belgium would stay Belgium
#111788 to #111779 - lotengo
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Northern Belgium would join the Netherlands
#111800 to #111788 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
oh i didnt realize flemish was so close to dutch
#111780 to #111779 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I think you're looking at the map wrong.
#111743 to #111741 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Yes, completely wrong.
#111745 to #111743 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
How?
#111748 to #111745 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Read his arguments. Pretty much everything he said is right, and I assume you do play too much of those Conquer-the-world games.
#111753 to #111748 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
But there are certain cultures that are especially compatible, like Canada and the United States. What's wrong with pan-nationalism? I'm pretty sure Kaiser Wilhelm II wasn't a gsg fan.
#111759 to #111753 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Yugoslavia pretty much tore itself a new arsehole because of individual nationalism trumping pan-nationalism, south slavs, who are supposedly compatible basically bombed each other and tried to annihilate each other. Pan-nationalism only really works, if there is a desire for unity to begin with and a lot of compromise, problem is it very quickly becomes unity under rather then unity alongside. See Prussia in Germany. United Kingdom under England,Yugoslavia under Serbia, . Then things get messy.
#111762 to #111759 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I think that it could work, given modern experience and a future national socialist shift.
#111764 to #111762 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
That is some heavy tinting on your glasses...
#111768 to #111764 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
ill put some heavy cumming on your face
#111757 to #111753 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Because its being forced and doesn't represent everyone.
#111758 to #111757 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I don't see it that way. Most, if not all, of the "blobs" have some form of presidence/justification, both on historical and political levels.
#111761 to #111758 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
History...
Right so, ignoring the break up of yugoslavia happened, ignoring the existence of the ottoman empire, ignoring crimean being and ethnic Russian majority, Ignoring Austria being independant of the rest of Germany for 99.9% of it's history Ignoring Belgium splitting from the netherlands and being fractured in itself.... I could go on.
#111765 to #111761 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
1.) Just because it happened doesn't mean it can't ever un-happen.
2.) What do the Ottomans have to do with this?
3.) That's why it's not a part of Ukraine.
4.) Anschluss wasn't invented by the Nazis, you know. There's a long history with that.
5.) A non-globalist political climate will dictate there be unions between cultures as compatible as those of the lowlands.
#111770 to #111765 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
1. Generations, and I very much doubt they will be friends in a few years.
2. Read up on the millet system, and read up on you know Istanbul.
3. Then why is it on it's own. Also you put Russians and Georgians together considering recent relations, and the lack of even a similar alphabet, azerbaijan and Armenia as well...
4.Years of Austria independant of a pan-nationalist Germany 500 years. Years as a part of a pan nationalist germany. 6/7
5.Wallons can't even get along with flanders... they're not divided by a "globalist political climate" they're divided by history.
#111771 to #111770 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
1.) I don't know what you're saying here.
2.) This is a debate, I shouldn't have to do your research for you. At least explain your point to me.
3.) Crimea couldn't stably join either nation, in my opinion. They would revolt under the Ukrainians, and cause diplomatic disasters under Russia. It seems just substantial enough to justify at least technical independence, anyways.
4.) Many of those years were spent with the idea of Grobdeutschland floating around.
5.) Nowadays it seems like Quebec separatism, it's more than died down enough to be largely negligible.
#111772 to #111771 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Tinted. Glasses.
#111777 to #111772 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Cum. Face.
#111730 - feelythefeel
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(03/29/2016) [-]
Comedy is, at it's best, highly critical. It's every bit as offensive, insulting, and indiscriminate as the reality it so religiously mocks. For the politically correct to claim that they're not the death of comedy is like if a cat gnawed at a bluebird's wings and claimed that he has not killed it. What can it do if not fly?
#111773 to #111730 - mixednuts
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Comedy that stresses offense and shock is almost always shit. Brickleberry and the films of Friedberg and Seltzer come to mind.

Would I be right in assuming that you don't listen to Eddie Griffin or Dave Chappelle? If so, why not? As a white person and admitted racist, shouldn't you find it offensive and insulting and therefor good?

Really most comedians that you'll see complaining about "political correctness" aren't exactly brilliant satirists. The reason young people aren't lining up to see Gilbert Gottfried is because he's a lowbrow hack. Not because he might challenge their perceptions of the world.
#111775 to #111773 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I'm not saying that you should be edgy, just honest is all. It can't be meaningfully funny if it doesn't come from a real place.
#111740 to #111730 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
if youre wondering tho

southpark is my favorite show
#111737 to #111730 - PopcornViking
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(03/29/2016) [-]
i do think their are certain lines that shouldnt be crossed

like stand up comedians making holocaust jokes or referring to black people as niggers

#111792 to #111737 - thumbfortrump
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(03/30/2016) [-]
What you are essentially saying is screw freedom of speech. Only those who share the same values as you should have a platform to speak.

If people want to make jokes about holocaust they should be allowed to. If people don't find them funny, the amount holocaust jokes would fall.

And why is it you want to limit them? Do you actually think that if people are allowed, everyone will instantly turn into nazies who scream white supremacy and race war?
#111794 to #111792 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
my entire point

is that comedy is not at its best when stand up comedians make jokes about throwing Jews into ovens or refer to black people as niggers

that was my whole point

nothing more, nothing less
#111793 to #111792 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
were not even close to being on the same page here
#111774 to #111737 - youregaylol
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(03/30/2016) [-]
nigger
#111749 to #111737 - pebar
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I disagree
some jokes are bad because they're bad jokes, not because they're inherently offensive
#111752 to #111749 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
That's with a soft a
not a hard r
#111763 to #111752 - pebar
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(03/30/2016) [-]
02 Standards And Practices ok, I got one, I got one
#111766 to #111763 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I believe you lol
#111746 to #111737 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
>like stand up comedians making holocaust jokes or referring to black people as niggers

Oh come on, fuck off you emotional kike. "MY RELATIVES DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST DONT MAKE STAND UP JOKES ABOUT IT"
#111754 to #111746 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
I'm over emotional because I don't like people making jokes about Jews being thrown in ovens?

I said they shouldn't
Not shouldn't be able to
#111756 to #111754 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
My point still stands.
#111744 to #111737 - feelythefeel
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(03/30/2016) [-]
But you shouldn't straight up ban people from making those jokes. If people find it socially unacceptable, they should punish it in a social manner within the bounds of the law.
#111750 to #111744 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
fair
#111731 to #111730 - anon
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(03/29/2016) [-]
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#111729 - valeriya
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(03/29/2016) [-]
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-35919248

I'll be honest, right now I'm surprised there has not been a coup, when you consider in the past many latin American countries tend to have problems, and then have a coup and go soul searching for a decade or two.
#111739 to #111729 - PopcornViking
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(03/29/2016) [-]
i just started latin american politics today

im sure on thursday my teacher will go on some huge rant
shes from argentina and has a thickass accent
#111747 to #111739 - valeriya
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Funny thing with Latin America they rarely have external wars. I can only think of peru-bolivia in the 1800's but really next to no wars, aside from a load of civil wars.
#111769 to #111747 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
The CIA had a nice miscue in Chile tho
With willingly executing a few Americans and propping up mr Pinochet

And there's always fun stuff in Cuba, Sao Palo and Medellin

And can't forget Che running around the continent

But yea they're usually not involved in other wars
#111727 - feelythefeel
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(03/29/2016) [-]
Lately I've taken up map painting. How'd this so far? The red X represents places I haven't gotten to yet.
#111783 to #111727 - anon
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(03/30/2016) [-]
FTFY.
I call it "progress".
Although, I'm giving Germany and Sweden a chance to redeem themselves.
#111732 to #111727 - valeriya
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#111733 to #111732 - feelythefeel
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(03/29/2016) [-]
What's heretical about it?
#111734 to #111733 - valeriya
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(03/29/2016) [-]
It's a useless map to begin with, and a little bit autist to be frank.
#111735 to #111734 - feelythefeel
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(03/29/2016) [-]
It's a fun thing to do on my off time. Fuck off.
#111736 to #111735 - valeriya
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(03/29/2016) [-]
Suit yourself. Still don't get it.
#111738 to #111736 - anon
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(03/29/2016) [-]
when are you gonna start treating my rod with those dick sucking lips you communistic cock sucker
#111725 to #111721 - unforgivensoul
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(03/29/2016) [-]
5 months? That's it? When do the non-20 week states ban abortion?
#111728 to #111725 - PopcornViking
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(03/29/2016) [-]
i was referring to making people pay extra for anesthesia so they dont harm the fetus which is going to die anyway

which is reaching new levels of unnecessary stupidity
#111742 to #111728 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
Seriously dood? You're ok with killing a fetus that CAN FEEL PAIN without anesthesia, what kind of a heartless fuck are you?
#111751 to #111742 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
it's gonna die anyway
and it's not a human yet, it's a fetus

all you're doing is wasting both time and money

heartless would be forcing a child into a world where it's parents can't afford it monetarily or can't devote nearly enough time to the child
And you know damn well these people aren't going to put the babies up for adoption

Heartless is making a woman who is pregnant from legitimately getting raped have that child
#111755 to #111751 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
"its gonna die anyways" is the only argument you've made so far. So I'll ask you this, are you ok with giving animals horrible conditions before they die, or making them go through intense pain? Do you believe in a torturous death for criminals if given capital punishment because they're going to die anyways? Is that really an argument? It doesn't warrant a pain-less death because its going to die anyways, that sounds very immoral quite frankly. Hell we're wasting time and money on giving animals a painless death, we should continue to give them horrible conditions and make them even worse if it lines our pockets. But wait you probably believe in giving animals proper conditions and painless deaths, huh, how hypocritical then.

I like the strawman you pulled out of your ass though, its like I'm talking to a fucking child. I never said to ban abortion, I'm simply agreeing that anesthesia should be given to the fetus and the person should pay for it.
#111760 to #111755 - PopcornViking
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(03/30/2016) [-]
No for animals
And no for torture unless absolutely necessary

An abortion is quick
You're not torturing the fetus
#111778 to #111760 - unforgivensoul
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(03/30/2016) [-]
>You're not torturing the fetus
You are slowly killing it, by definition its torture buddy. You literally have no argument here. Anesthesia for a fetus is as moral as a painless death for an animal. If you support one and not the other you are a hypocrite.
#111719 - theism
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(03/29/2016) [-]
Donald Trump associates hand size with penis size. Donald Trump seems to be fairly insecure about the size of his. What does this imply?
#111723 to #111719 - unforgivensoul
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(03/29/2016) [-]
It implies you're very interested in his penis.
#111724 to #111723 - theism
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(03/29/2016) [-]
Apparently it's important enough to come up in the debate.
#111722 to #111719 - pebar
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(03/29/2016) [-]
nothing
#111726 to #111722 - theism
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(03/29/2016) [-]
What it means is one thing, what it implies is another.