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#68748 - alimais (08/31/2014) [-]
Haha , everyone discussed how a video showing jets destroying a vessel are Russian jets but Ukraine claims that vessel was destroyed by rebel artillery.   
   
  And now everyone is confused.   Meh, could be still through because I saw mostly birds and I'm not sure if I see a plane    
   

			
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Haha , everyone discussed how a video showing jets destroying a vessel are Russian jets but Ukraine claims that vessel was destroyed by rebel artillery.

And now everyone is confused. Meh, could be still through because I saw mostly birds and I'm not sure if I see a plane

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#68749 to #68748 - byposted (08/31/2014) [-]
RIP Ukraine navy
RIP Ukraine navy
#68750 to #68749 - alimais (08/31/2014) [-]
Reminds me of this one
Reminds me of this one
#68747 - anonymous (08/31/2014) [-]
#68745 - alimais (08/31/2014) [-]
syrianassassin this might interest you

#68752 to #68745 - anonymous (08/31/2014) [-]
Yes, I'm sure the Tsarnaevs, who had lived in the United States nearly their entire lives got their weapons directly from Chechnya.
#68753 to #68746 - syrianassassin (08/31/2014) [-]
Obama is trying to attack the ISIS in Syria using airstrike   
   
Just try it Obama, i dare you!   
   
let him touch a single part of syria and im sure the world war III will start
Obama is trying to attack the ISIS in Syria using airstrike

Just try it Obama, i dare you!

let him touch a single part of syria and im sure the world war III will start
User avatar #68760 to #68753 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
There have already been airstrikes on targets in Iraq.

If we did it in Syria without Syrias permission they would probably only have harsh words for us and claim that it was a declaration of war. Syria doesn't have the capabilities to do much damage to the US. They're only big ally is Russia, and they aren't willing to risk all out war with another nuclear power.
#68755 to #68753 - anonymous (08/31/2014) [-]
IT'S HABBENING 4 REAL THIS TIME GUISE
#68729 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
www.funnyjunk.com/we+need+a+new+word/funny-pictures/5277356/126#126

Take a moment to thank the strong walls of politics for protecting you from the rest of ShillJunk.
User avatar #68733 to #68729 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
It did have positive aspects, but so does every stable society. The Nazis were horrendously inefficient as a bureaucracy and batshit insane as a movement.

As a fascist, you should probably be embarrassed of Hitler. He was a mediocre leader that was good at giving speeches.
User avatar #68763 to #68733 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
I had always been taught that the Germans kept impeccable records and were generally a very well run nation, up until they were incredibly strained for resources.

As for Hitler, you can't really say he wasn't a good leader. He managed to take an economy that was unbelievably worse then the US's in the darkest hours of the depression, and managed to turn it into a nation capable of taking over the entirety of Europe in less then a decade. Although when it came to the war itself he should have listened to Rommel and all the other heavily talented German commanders instead of the batshit crazy battle plans he drew up. There were several times when the Germans could have caused incredible losses to the British, French, and Russians that would have altered the history of the war, but Hitler was stubborn and stupid in that regard.

I really don't think Hitler was as horrible of a Human being as much as he is demonized, but that's what happens when you lose a war.
User avatar #68771 to #68763 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
The thing is that Hitler didn't revitalize the economy with new infrastructures or policies, he got everyone riled up and spending money with promises he could only keep if the entire planet became Nazi territory. He didn't invade other nations simply out of jingoistic pride, a fascist state needs to constantly expand to remain economically viable.

Hell, if the Gemans won, it's entirely possible that they would have burned out again a few decades later, and the Nazi nation would become just like any other, leaving its national socialist roots behind.

"I really don't think Hitler was as horrible of a Human being as much as he is demonized, but that's what happens when you lose a war."

He wasn't any more horrible than, say, Ted Bundy... or, y'know, Stalin. Some people simply get bigger and better chances to be monsters. It's scary to think that anyone could grow up to be the leader of a genocidal war state.
User avatar #68773 to #68771 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
That was a point that I was going to make in my next response. The whole reason that they went to war was to continue to fuel their economic growth, otherwise it would all collapse. Which is why I'm a little nervous about China and their explosive growth.

It's hard to tell what would have happened if they had won though. Interesting topic though.

I agree with that last point. Stalin and Mao killed just about as many of their own people during peacetime compared to the total death toll of world war 2. That's the whole reason that we demonize him, Hitler wasn't some god awful person who was evil to his core. He was a human being who loved his country, his mother, and wanted to be an artist. We just demonize him so that we can distance ourselves from the fact that we all have the capability of being monsters.
User avatar #68777 to #68773 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
Meh, I don't think Mao, Stalin and Hitler can really be compared simply by death tolls. We'll never truly know whether any of them really meant well or were simply despots killing for their own gain. The Great Leap Forward, after all, only killed people that Zedong wanted to thrive.

China is also quite openly capitalistic and cronyist despite their insistence that they're fulfilling Marx's dream. Hu Jintao was probably more right wing than Santorum.
User avatar #68781 to #68777 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
I'm aware of the Chinese being more Capitalist then Communist in practice, but I'm talking just general economic growth wise. The growth that they are going through right now is not sustainable, and most economies don't just level off when it comes to erratic growth like that, they crash and burn. With the US and Germany pre WW2 as perfect examples of that. They're currently doing all they can to try and sustain these gains in their economy, which is evident in their aggressiveness economically over markets and militarily over resources. My whole issue is that with China rising, the power of that whole area will destabilize and may cause issues, especially if China only sees war as the only viable option to save their economy and all their growth from crashing and going back to square one.
User avatar #68735 to #68734 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FascistButInefficient
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_occultism
coffeecuphistory.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/the-myth-of-nazi-efficiency/

This is what my evidence would be if reality didn't bend to retroactively make all thought contrary to yours part of a grand conspiracy.
#68736 to #68735 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
mhm sure man
mhm sure man
User avatar #68761 to #68736 - akkere (08/31/2014) [-]
The horseshoe theory has proven itself once again.
User avatar #68762 to #68761 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
not really
User avatar #68764 to #68762 - akkere (08/31/2014) [-]
No? Then how is it then in your quest to fight the leftist degenerates, you have adopted their petty tactics of "I will not argue against someone of lower ideology who clearly won't learn anything from my superior intellect".

In your quest to fight left degeneration, you have become the right-wing degenerate.
User avatar #68766 to #68764 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
A degenerate is usually defined as someone of low moral character. I don't enjoy arguing with a wall, if you think I'm a degenerate because I won't acknowledge every single thing leftists spits out you're a moron.
User avatar #68768 to #68766 - akkere (08/31/2014) [-]
I'm sure the leftist degenerates would say something along those lines as well. Probably throw in some kooky tumblr reaction picture to mirror the one you gave Shiny along with it.
User avatar #68769 to #68768 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
I think you're just using false equivalency to demean those who won't spend hours arguing baseless leftwing arguments.

"oh u wont argue dat hitler was a nerd haha dat means ur a degenerate hypocrite"

2/10
User avatar #68770 to #68769 - akkere (08/31/2014) [-]
You already spend hours looking at POV videos of a guy and his adventures into ghetto degeneracy, no reason to partake in a fair discussion on a post that warranted no childish actions.

Not even a number/10
User avatar #68772 to #68770 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
Providing commentary on a video a few days ago = participating in a non discussion with a person who literally never listens or attempts to understand the other side of an argument?

Thats some retarded logic, did it ever occur to you that I had the energy at one point and I didn't at another? Or that maybe I'm just not in the mood for another Shiny teaching session that always boils down to "but im right", or that maybe his past insults (now that we're talking about childishness) could have possibly caused me to have a distaste for talking with him?

No, of course not. Dude just fuck off, I know your deal. You're just a leftist trying to score points for your team, you don't even care about this and you don't have a leg to stand on.
User avatar #68778 to #68772 - akkere (08/31/2014) [-]
Do you ever think that maybe people insult you because you declare anyone who so much as argues with you a leftist shill? I don't see how you could have a distaste for anyone that delivers in kind, and I recall some of your first posts here being that kind of degenerate behavior.

You wouldn't believe me, but I do care about topics like this because I am confident there's going to be some serious tides in racial issues in the future, and I am legitimately curious as to the full groundwork of your reasoning and ideals are (you'll remember I commented on a thread recently but for whatever reason you never responded; I just assumed you might've been busy). But if you'd rather be hostile, be hostile. I can understand if you don't want to bother taxing yourself in long discussion, I just don't understand why you run this circle of insult and then wonder why people do so in kind.
User avatar #68780 to #68778 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
Maybe the reason I don;t argue with you people is because you strawman to no end. Like I know that some people misuse that term, but seriously it's completely applicable in most our conversations. For instance I don't call everyone I disagree with a leftist shill, thats bullshit. When you say that crap over and over again I don't want to deal with you because you're lying. You also misuse terms constantly, again you use degenerate when I've done nothing that shows a lack of moral character.

You don't give a shit about me responding to Shiny, you just want to fight about pointless shit and because you're a leftist you want to defend your spectrum, that's the only reason you'd attack me for choosing not argue with a wall.

If I don't respond to you it means I'm either tired/busy. or I dont think you'd provide me with a beneficial discussion. If I can gain something from arguing with others I'll do it, but I'm not a teacher and I'm not going to spend 3 hours going back and forth with a moron.

And you called me a degenerate first so cut that hostile bullshit out, you set the tone so just deal with it, seriously. If you want an argument start up your own thread, quit bitching about shit you know is meaningless.
User avatar #68783 to #68780 - akkere (08/31/2014) [-]
I do give a shit actually, because I did want to remark on the referenced thread's remark on the internal dysfunctionality of the leadership of the Nazi Party despite the accomplishments they had initially made, but then I read how you reacted to Shiny's post and figured I'd throw in the Horseshoe remark to see if you understood what I meant, then add the degenerate bit to point out how your reaction wasn't much different than a tumblr twats shitposting.

I know for a fact you called me a leftist shill in the very first response you ever gave me when you came to this board, rather out of the blue if memory serves right. You might've been trolling then, but if you want to understand the stem of thought of your behavior in shill declaratives, that's probably it.

But hey, if you'd rather not argue the posts, then don't argue the posts. I'm just pointing out that you'd hardly be proving yourself to anyone outside of your ideals - like the occasional drifter that finds their way in this board - when you just simply go "mhm yeah okay buddy" on the occasions that those you claim to be moronic shills calmfully engage in a fair discussion with fair source material. But I suppose you wouldn't have to prove your point to some random lurkers, right? I'm sure these leftist degenerates will blow over in time and the Internet will gladly take these posts to heart.
User avatar #68785 to #68783 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
I called you a leftist shill because I believe you're a leftist shill based upon what I've observed, I don't deny that, but I don't call everyone a leftist shill for disagreeing with me. Syrian and me argue all the time but I don't think he's a shill. Lulz and me disagree but I don't consider him a shill. It's not a valid claim, it's a lie, and it's one of the reasons I avoid conversations with your type.

My reaction was mocking because I don't respect him and I don't want to waste my time on him. I also find it ironic that you and him both keep spitting out tumblr when really your type thrives in those places, not mine.

I don't have to prove my ideals to anybody who doesn't want to learn. If someone wants to asks me about my beliefs I will discuss with them, but if they won't listen then I have no obligation to talk with them, and you know that but you just want to take issue because you're biased, which is fine I don't care. Just don't pretend that this has to do with anything other than you wanting to stand up for the left.
User avatar #68807 to #68785 - akkere (09/01/2014) [-]
But they do agree with you on racial policy to one extent or another, which is most of what you post about anyway. Lulz (athough I'm pretty sure you have called him a shill a few times initially) hates mudslimes and niggers, Syrianassassin hates Jews and (possibly) niggers. So it's not a lie, you still call people who utmost disagree with you on racial policy a shill.

But very well, I realize this is a very late response but I wanted to get that out there and to say, yeah, you do call everyone who disagrees with you (at least on racial policy) a shill.
#68811 to #68807 - syrianassassin (09/01/2014) [-]
i hate jews and possibly niggers?   
   
hey hey. my manager is black, and i dont hate jews but i hate zionism
i hate jews and possibly niggers?

hey hey. my manager is black, and i dont hate jews but i hate zionism
User avatar #68818 to #68811 - akkere (09/01/2014) [-]
Jews are behind lots of things but not every things.
User avatar #68816 to #68811 - akkere (09/01/2014) [-]
That's valid, as do I. Not to the sense I'd chalk it up as being behind anything and all things degenerate, but recognizing it as a rather troubling force in the political winds.
User avatar #68817 to #68816 - syrianassassin (09/01/2014) [-]
be less complicated
User avatar #68810 to #68807 - youregaylol (09/01/2014) [-]
See, why bother even attempting to talk to you if you're going to lie about me over and over again after I've attempted to correct you.

I reply back and forth to you over and over again and I still get "Nope you call everybody a shill" without any shit to back it up.

Nobody want's to waste time on people who aren't interested in talking.

Anyway convo is over.
User avatar #68814 to #68810 - akkere (09/01/2014) [-]
"Without anything to back it up"
Well, in this thread someone presented back up for their own post, and you didn't so much as acknowledge it. Why waste the effort? Isn't that what your point was? Wasted effort?

I'm plenty interested in talking, you just reply back and forth over and over that "no I'm not the degenerate, I have high moral character, look at how I reacted to this response, I've declared him a moron and will respond to him like one. Nothing about the way I've judged and responded is anything like those degenerates who do the same thing"

But hey, if you want to end the convo without much to gain, be my guest. I've realized you insulate yourself to those that at least run parallel in your ideas of racial policy - even if it's not perfect - you'll be more likely to consider them less of a shill, so I got something out of this. You already thought of me as a moronic shill from the get-go, so chances are nothing about anything I could post would've changed that.
User avatar #68815 to #68814 - youregaylol (09/01/2014) [-]
Anyway convo is over.
User avatar #68812 to #68810 - syrianassassin (09/01/2014) [-]
wtf is he talking about?
User avatar #68813 to #68812 - youregaylol (09/01/2014) [-]
He's saying that I call everyone I disagree with shills so i pointed out how I don't call you and lulz shills, but now he's saying that you're both racists so it doesn't mater.

It's all bullshit.
User avatar #68774 to #68772 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
"youregaylol" calling me childish. Classic.
#68775 to #68774 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
"ur username on an image sharing website is dumb, lul owned"

Nevermind the fact that you jack off to cartoon animals, I'd say I'm way ahead of you in the adult department.
User avatar #68776 to #68775 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
I keep the fact that I jack off to stupid shit off of this board. You're the one that's keen on labeling himself some kind of crusader of societal purity, despite the fact that he can't have a rational discussion without "drurr hurr dis is wut u sond like".
User avatar #68779 to #68776 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
Irony and strawmans galore.

You can't even stay on point with your own lame insults. You said that my name made me childish, I pointed out that you jack off to furry shit, you said that it didn't matter because it's off the board. So if my username was off the board it wouldn't be childish, and because you don't talk about your dog fetish I can't hold it against you?

This is why I don't like talking with you, you don't make any sense, you just say things in the hopes that you'll win.
User avatar #68782 to #68779 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
"strawmans galore"

33 minutes ago: "oh u wont argue dat hitler was a nerd haha dat means ur a degenerate hypocrite"

Yeah, that figures.

No, I'm calling you childish because you have the gall to call others degenerate useful idiots, but recoil in bitter angst when someone throws a few punches at you and dig around on someone else's profile for dirt against them when they make even a vaguely accurate point. You pretend to be some enlightened bastion of truth then turn around and spam "sassy" Tumblr animations between passive aggressive remarks. I wouldn't even care if you were a Nazist if you had a tenth of the mental fortitude of byposted or schnizel.
User avatar #68808 to #68782 - schnizel ONLINE (09/01/2014) [-]
he didn du nutin
he a good boy
User avatar #68784 to #68782 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
Satire is a bit different than actively attempting to portray a false perception of someone. By using quotes and typing like a retard I'm obviously mocking you, but when you say in passing "You say you're a crusader for social purity and a bastion of truth" you knowingly distort my position in a way that will make others accept it as fact if I don't correct it, thereby creating distorting my position and attacking me. You do this all the time and it's basic as fuck and boring.

And no, you actually called me childish because of my username, you were that dumb. I do believe that you're a useful idiot but I didn't recoil in bitter angst, I just refused to acknowledge your ridiculous argument, and then you were the one who started flipping shit. Let me be clear, I don't think I would gain anything from talking with you and I believe that our conversations are more of me educating you than a real discussion. You don't interest me.

And I don't give a shit if you think some other people are smarter than me or whatever, it's the equivalent of a kid telling his dad that he likes his uncle better when the dad makes him angry. You're only saying that because I'm the one who has given you the most smackdowns as of late, I'm sure if byposted would be the one with the whip you'd say that youregaylol is a super genius. It's pointless chitter chatter that you spew out when you don't know what to say.

Also I didn't check you profile, go ahead and look at the recent visitors. I've been here long enough to know that you're a furfag.
User avatar #68905 to #68784 - Shiny (09/03/2014) [-]
"toxic"

Should I check my privilege, too?
User avatar #68799 to #68784 - Shiny (09/01/2014) [-]
Shitposting is not "satire". The Producers is satire. Intentionally misquoting another person is, in fact, technically considered libel.
User avatar #68809 to #68799 - youregaylol (09/01/2014) [-]
Man you're toxic.
4/10 for getting me to respond to your idiocy.
User avatar #68737 to #68736 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
So, no argument?
#68738 to #68737 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
>arguing with the ignorant   
>debating shills   
>correcting leftists   
>expecting them to learn anything
>arguing with the ignorant
>debating shills
>correcting leftists
>expecting them to learn anything
User avatar #68739 to #68738 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
You might win a debate now and then if you tried to argue on common talking points instead of making it impossible to agree with literally anything you say without admitting that nonwhites should be killed en masse. :^)
#68740 to #68739 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
>implies I ever said that non whites should be killed   
>implying that I haven't destroyed you in every discussion we've had   
>implying I need to find common ground with mongoloids   
>acts like hes a troll   
>being this base   
>"why don't you talk to me?"
>implies I ever said that non whites should be killed
>implying that I haven't destroyed you in every discussion we've had
>implying I need to find common ground with mongoloids
>acts like hes a troll
>being this base
>"why don't you talk to me?"
User avatar #68741 to #68740 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
I think you spend too much time on 4chan, son. That shit rots your brain.
User avatar #68742 to #68741 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
2012/10 best unslut evar so owned gg
User avatar #68743 to #68742 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
Also, you should stop browsing 4chan because you are clearly not old enough to. At least not mentally.
#68744 to #68743 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
omg I didn't think you could trump your "u go on da 4chan 2 much" argument but you just devastated me with the "stop browsing 4chan kid" defense.   
   
pls don't call me a nazi racist again or i might cry.
omg I didn't think you could trump your "u go on da 4chan 2 much" argument but you just devastated me with the "stop browsing 4chan kid" defense.

pls don't call me a nazi racist again or i might cry.
#68765 to #68744 - anonymous (08/31/2014) [-]
Nazi racist
#68731 to #68729 - economicfreedom (08/31/2014) [-]
The walls weren't strong enough to protect us from immature hipster faggots like you who just want an ideology that's not mainstream.
"Hurr durr Hitler was so great!!! Race should play a major factor in policy making. OMG this shit is delicious!!!"
Seriously?
Grow up.
#68732 to #68731 - youregaylol (08/31/2014) [-]
>calls me a hipster and a faggot   
>strawmans the shit out of something he doesn't understand   
>tells other to grow up   
>says that others are butthurt   
   
gg ron paul 2016 libertardanism 4 lyfe
>calls me a hipster and a faggot
>strawmans the shit out of something he doesn't understand
>tells other to grow up
>says that others are butthurt

gg ron paul 2016 libertardanism 4 lyfe
#68726 - feelythefeel (08/31/2014) [-]
So I was playing RFC, and it made me think of this. What would happen in a crazy alternate universe where the Mayans survived to do the kind of thing shown?
User avatar #68730 to #68726 - princessren (08/31/2014) [-]
RFC?
what does that stand for? It looks like Civ.
User avatar #68751 to #68730 - feelythefeel (08/31/2014) [-]
Rhye's and Fall of Civilizations. It's a history mod for Civ 4.
User avatar #68728 to #68722 - oxan (08/31/2014) [-]
I'm sure the Watchmen militias rounding up illegals in their tacticool gear can handle it.
User avatar #68725 to #68722 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
I'm far more afraid of the Mexican cartels that cross that same border than some jihadi "invasion" that will more than likely fizzle.
User avatar #68727 to #68725 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
I'm not worried about an invasion, ISIS doesn't have that kind of capability. I'm worried about a terrorist attack on a civilian center, and how that would effect the current political atmosphere.
#68721 - anonymous (08/30/2014) [-]
Would it be possible to make it so that voting doesn't qualify you for jury duty?

I imagine most Americans aren't voting because they believe it won't make a difference. So voting isn't worth the possibility of wasting some of your time on a jury.
User avatar #68724 to #68721 - Shiny (08/31/2014) [-]
The externalities sound frightening. What if there's a difference in demographics between the voters and jury servers?
User avatar #68718 - ribocoon (08/30/2014) [-]
Middle Eastern Marksmanship Training
User avatar #68720 to #68718 - pebar ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
Vertical Video Syndrome - A PSA
#68719 to #68718 - anonymous (08/30/2014) [-]
Aloha snackbar
#68717 - byposted (08/30/2014) [-]
www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/30/george-galloway-released-hospital-assault

A man has been charged with religiously aggravated assault after allegedly attacking George Galloway on a London street on Friday evening, police have said.

The Bradford West MP was released from hospital on Saturday morning having suffered a suspected broken jaw and rib as well as facial bruising. Neil Masterson, 39, has been accused of shouting about the Holocaust and attacking him.
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User avatar #68703 - youregaylol (08/30/2014) [-]
Group of People Harassing and Restraining a Cyclist Gods chosen fighting off a neo nazi riding a holocaust mobile on his way to oppress blacks.
#68704 to #68703 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
GOY!

we are the chosen people, remember the 6 trillion.

just delete your comment.
User avatar #68706 to #68704 - youregaylol (08/30/2014) [-]
Omar we need to set some ground rules here. Your presence is acceptable in religion because without you the fedora bunch will start acting up and the board will become boring and stale.

Politics is in the firm control of the master race, there are only a few shill faggots here and shitting on them is fun.

Don't blow up this board.
User avatar #68707 to #68706 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
i actually don't shit post here.

as a deal between me and some bro that i never piss the idiots here, and leave it to you guys to bait them as much as you all want.

User avatar #68708 to #68707 - youregaylol (08/30/2014) [-]
Politics will belong to Right forever, no juden or shills allowed.
User avatar #68709 to #68708 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
indeed.

but of course they will come to protect their own shit.
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User avatar #68693 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
let us take a look at our >>MURICAN<< GAMES OF WAR

as we all knows, murica hate al qaida more than any terrorist cause muh 9/11.

but their games is as stupid as a kid with down syndrome.

take a look at this table en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

in the opposition scroll down to see the military support. murica is there, MUH FREEDOMS
User avatar #68723 to #68693 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/31/2014) [-]
Notice that the Armament support for the Syrians includes the Russians, that's what this all boils down too. The US vs. Russia.

Because we couldn't stand letting Russia have an ally in the Middle East, we now have a much much bigger issue that we have partially armed, the ISIS. Just because we are American doesn't mean that we agree with any of the decisions our leaders make.
User avatar #68696 to #68693 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
Your language skills make my brain bleed.
User avatar #68700 to #68696 - alekksandar (08/30/2014) [-]
You're only mad because what he said made sense regardless of his bad grammar and spelling. Keep being proud of your terrorist state.
User avatar #68701 to #68700 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
All I said was that his language skills are atrocious, I'm probably the first one to accuse the United States government of funding violence.
User avatar #68702 to #68701 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
so you agree that USA funded those terrorist?
User avatar #68711 to #68702 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
User avatar #68712 to #68711 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
what political party you belong to?
User avatar #68713 to #68712 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
They're all a crock of shit. I vote by candidate.
User avatar #68715 to #68714 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
What?
User avatar #68698 to #68696 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
im sorry, but also does the truth makes your eyes bleed?
#68694 to #68693 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
let us now go the the free shit army

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

we will see their nasty allies called al nusra front
#68695 to #68694 - syrianassassin (08/30/2014) [-]
now we switch to the al nusra front

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

take a look at what part it is from, al qada.

so the Jewnited States of AmeriKKKunts are helping the groups who are allied with their enemies.

User avatar #68692 to #68670 - youregaylol (08/30/2014) [-]
"Anyone who questions us is a stupid racist conspiracy theorist"
User avatar #68691 to #68670 - schnizel ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
Worst propaganda this week, you shills need to come up with better stuff.
#68690 to #68670 - dehumanizer (08/30/2014) [-]
Brought to you by, the jewish media.
User avatar #68697 to #68690 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
>circular reasoning
#68688 to #68670 - anonymous (08/30/2014) [-]
Replace the commie with "muh nazi", the devil with "muh bible thumpers", and the jew with "muh racists" and you might actually have a point, but you don't acknowledge the stupidity Of the left.

Go back to Reddit you useful idiot.
User avatar #68666 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
If it is confirmed that Russian troops have actually invaded the Ukraine, what are the chances that the US goes to war under the Budapest Memorandum in the early 90's?

Essentially it was a treaty signed after the USSR fell, saying that if the Ukraine gave its nuclear arsenal (the 3rd largest at the time) to Russia and the US, then they would have both countries' protection from foreign invasion. Now that Russia seems to be invading, we are inclined to act under the treaty. If we do not go to war then any other modern treaty signed with any other nation could possibly come into question.

My prediction: If Russia does end up invading the Ukraine, the US will break the treaty with the Ukraine claiming that when there was a regime change in March the treaty was void, since the treaty was agreed upon with the previous government, and Obama will be forced to put more attention to ISIS per public demand. This will probably give Russia the break it needs, and may take the entire Ukraine.
User avatar #68668 to #68666 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
I don' think there are many circumstances where Russia will annex Ukraine outright, and if they do they can kiss just about any all foreign relations goodbye.
User avatar #68669 to #68668 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
Their foreign relations have already pretty much become nonexistent at the moment anyways. The only incentive the rest of Europe has to maintain relations is that Russia supplies the rest of Europe's gas.
User avatar #68671 to #68669 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
I'm just saying that it'll become a whole new world of hurt if they pull that shit.
User avatar #68672 to #68671 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
NATO is pretty much a joke militarily without the US. The UK and Germany have an okay military, but I don't think they could take on Russia head on. If it came down to it then I would say Russia isn't afraid of NATO unless the US is completely involved in a conflict with Russia. But with Obama showing how unwilling he is to show any kind of force or have any kind of balls Putin may call that bluff.
User avatar #68689 to #68672 - youregaylol (08/30/2014) [-]
MAD will prevent any NATO/Russia war, the UK doesn't need a strong army if they have nukes. WMD's have either doomed us to our inevitable Apocalypse or have insured that we will never see a world war again.
User avatar #68673 to #68672 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
I'm not even talking about direct military intervention.
User avatar #68674 to #68673 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
I know.

But you also have to look at it from Russia's perspective. If the Ukraine remains under it's current government then they will take steps to join NATO, and that is unacceptable considering NATO has been placing a missile shield around Russia for decades. I can guarantee that if the tables were turned and Russia had an alliance with Canada, Cuba, and was trying to get Mexico into the alliance, we'd be acting the same way and trying everything we could to prevent being pushed into a corner.
User avatar #68675 to #68674 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
>implying the cold war hasn't ended yet
User avatar #68676 to #68675 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
I agree, but I also think that NATO has adopted an almost anti-Russian position. I've heard nothing but bad things about them my entire life.
User avatar #68677 to #68676 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
I think that's more of the culture than an actual malicious intent. Besides, didn't Ukraine start to make moves to join NATO on it's own?
User avatar #68678 to #68677 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
Before March, the Ukraine was wanting to maintain relations with Russia. After the coup (whether you believe NATO had a hand in it or not), Ukraine has suddenly wanted to join NATO. It's what the Pro-Russian separatists are fighting for, they want close relations with Russia and not the EU and Europe.
User avatar #68679 to #68678 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
Well regardless, the original question is whether they could get away with completely annexing Ukraine. And realistically, the answer is no.
User avatar #68680 to #68679 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
I don't see that either, too much strain financially. I could seem them annexing Dontesk and Luhansk along with their provinces at the very most.
User avatar #68681 to #68680 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
That's what I'm saying.
User avatar #68682 to #68681 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
I guess time will tell, I'm about to join the Air National Guard, so I could easily get deployed to any kind of conflict if something did happen.
User avatar #68683 to #68682 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
What country?
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User avatar #68684 to #68683 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/30/2014) [-]
US
User avatar #68686 to #68684 - feelythefeel (08/30/2014) [-]
Well good luck.
User avatar #68662 - ribocoon (08/29/2014) [-]
Tyrone Reviews 4chan /pol/
#68664 to #68662 - economicfreedom (08/29/2014) [-]
&quot;If you do not browse /pol/ daily, you are certainly a JIDF shill.&quot;
"If you do not browse /pol/ daily, you are certainly a JIDF shill."
#68663 to #68662 - maddboiy (08/29/2014) [-]
Hearing a black guy say "Can't flim-flam the Zim-zam" has been the highlight of my day.
User avatar #68656 - youregaylol (08/29/2014) [-]
UK MUSLIM STREET GANGS THREATEN WOMEN & DRINKERS The greatest left wing dilemma of our time, you want hordes of muslim immigrants in western nations while also wanting to eliminate homo discrimination.
User avatar #68667 to #68656 - Shiny (08/30/2014) [-]
Modern Islamic beliefs are crazily right wing, though, down to the economic values. Political correctness isn't about a specific ideology as much as it is about doublethink between conflicting ideologies.
#68648 - anonymous (08/29/2014) [-]
UK terrorist threat level raised to 'severe',
User avatar #68660 to #68648 - beatmasterz (08/29/2014) [-]
Jesus, anon. You scared the hell outta me with that picture.
#68655 to #68648 - anonymous (08/29/2014) [-]
I hope they suffer a major terrorist attack just so we can rip on THEM for overreacting to terrorism.   
   
[X] Post as anonymous
I hope they suffer a major terrorist attack just so we can rip on THEM for overreacting to terrorism.

[X] Post as anonymous
#68657 to #68655 - anonymous (08/29/2014) [-]
but muh tea

I don't want admiral Allāhu Akbar to come bomb me.
User avatar #68649 to #68648 - schnizel ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
spooky
#68650 to #68649 - anonymous (08/29/2014) [-]
It's happening.
User avatar #68651 to #68650 - schnizel ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
;(
#68652 to #68651 - anonymous (08/29/2014) [-]
I can't handle it, I'm going to bug out with my bug out kit to my bug out shelter.
User avatar #68654 to #68652 - schnizel ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
oh no
#68645 - alimais (08/29/2014) [-]
WE NATO NOW
User avatar #68665 to #68645 - tredbear (08/30/2014) [-]
If Ukraine joins nato during the Eastern Conflict, it will just turn into a huge ass shitstoem with Russia
User avatar #68653 to #68645 - princessren (08/29/2014) [-]
don't think I would let them join tbh
they are already pretty much at war with Russia and that would only drag everyone else in with them
User avatar #68658 to #68653 - alimais (08/29/2014) [-]
Pretty much the view of most Yuros
User avatar #68646 to #68645 - youregaylol (08/29/2014) [-]
That's a smart move on Ukraine's part tbh.
User avatar #68640 - schnizel ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
Benjamin Freedman's 1961 - Warns America About The Jews
#68642 to #68640 - alimais (08/29/2014) [-]
"Not available in your country" ~ Austria

I can imagine what the video is about, though
User avatar #68643 to #68642 - schnizel ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
A guy explaining how the jews weren't scapegoats, but rather the opposite.
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