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#65252 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
I have an idea. It's called anarcho-altruism. People have a natural inclination to be virtuous and to do good. It's just that many corporations, terrorist organizations, governments and so on corrupt people's initial will to do good. As do schools to some extent. School treats pupils badly, pupils treat school badly.

So, for me, I think we can be good without institutions and God. I think that WOULD actually work. While I still want some institutions (like school, but a more free school where children have more freedom)hospitals (but a more compassionate hospital where the doctors learn to sit down and talk to patients. problem here is scarcity in hospital staff. they have so many patients, that they can't explain how they patients are going to get medicated heavily in the cases of cancer for example, nor able to explain the causes of the disease at hand), I still want mental hospitals to exist.. but not in their current "detain & medicate" form.

Ever heard of Carl Gustav Jung? He had the title of "Shaman" thanks to his skill of talking to people and curing them. I believe that we can probe into a persons biography, then dissolve many of currently existing mental disorders. Not only have this Freudian materialist approach

So... Yeah, that's a few changes I'd like to implement.

If you have any idea what kind of school would nourish creativity & curiosity, hit me up with ideas. Thank you for reading.
User avatar #65331 to #65252 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Because humans are nice beings who would help anyone in need.

User avatar #65351 to #65331 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Right, so do you have any actual argument against this or is it just your anecdotal evidence?
User avatar #65352 to #65351 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Right, so do you have any actual argument against this or is it just your anecdotal evidence?
User avatar #65353 to #65352 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Yup. The majority of Steven pinkers books. If you want to, I will read them thoroughly and pick out the parts that support my claims.
User avatar #65354 to #65353 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Or you can read a history book and not repeat the mistakes from before.
User avatar #65355 to #65354 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
That's called historydeterminism.
#65284 to #65252 - pebar (07/05/2014) [-]
>People have a natural inclination to be virtuous and to do good   
   
no.... no they don't
>People have a natural inclination to be virtuous and to do good

no.... no they don't
User avatar #65288 to #65284 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
How do you know? There are VERY few times when institutions or organizations have not led people astray in human history. I believe there are both motivations for great evil and for great good in each human being.
#65261 to #65252 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
I think you're that one faggot indone.
#65320 to #65275 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
you know what
#65323 to #65321 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
We already know it's you, theres no point in trying to hide it fag.
User avatar #65324 to #65323 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Ok... 0_o
User avatar #65356 to #65324 - teoragnar (07/05/2014) [-]
God, I hope not.
User avatar #65357 to #65356 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Hope not what?
User avatar #65358 to #65357 - teoragnar (07/05/2014) [-]
That you're not indone.
User avatar #65359 to #65358 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Who the fuck is this indone individual?
User avatar #65360 to #65359 - teoragnar (07/05/2014) [-]
A guy who recently created a new account but told no one to keep it secret.
The only guy he told it spoiled the beans.
#65369 to #65360 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
Dude, it's so indone.
User avatar #65361 to #65360 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Huh. Okay.
User avatar #65362 to #65361 - teoragnar (07/05/2014) [-]
Doesn't matter, I just got the idea somehow because indone told me about Freeman and I saw you had some links on your account to his videos.
User avatar #65363 to #65362 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Freeman is cool. I can't speak for that guy you wwere talking about though
#65250 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Daily reminder.
User avatar #65448 to #65250 - jadewest (07/06/2014) [-]
so what you're saying is
I should be the supreme ruler of the world yea
User avatar #65449 to #65448 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Yes, I should be the supreme ruler of the world.
User avatar #65450 to #65449 - jadewest (07/06/2014) [-]
only if I get to be in charge of the army
User avatar #65451 to #65450 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
<3
User avatar #65253 to #65250 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
So... the simple word "Anarchy" is all encompassing for all subgroups of anarchy and means chaos? I think you've missunderstood the point of anarchy.
User avatar #65254 to #65253 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Oh sorry, it's not TRUE anarchy.
User avatar #65257 to #65254 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Not saying it isn't true anarchy. It may be a form of anarchy that is like that, but you might as well just call that chaos. In Africa, the resources are scarce and the people are desperate. Anarchy may very well work with a well-educated and compassionate populus. I believe that everyone has the capacity to be compassionate.
User avatar #65259 to #65257 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
In Africa, the resources are scarce and the people are desperate. Grab a map and look how many resources there are in Africa, and then your eyes will open wide.
>Anarchy may very well work with a well-educated and compassionate populus.
A ship has only but one captain.
> compassionate.
Nigger, we are a species of primitive savages who evolved on backstabbs, raids and wars and do you think that we have any compassion or mersy? Or do you want to be ruled by women, and we all know how bad that is.
User avatar #65262 to #65259 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Map..? What? How could I possibly find resources that are needed (food and clean water) on a map?
>A ship has only but one captain.
Then who are we to pick out one to be above the rest? What's so special about that person?
>Nigger, we are a species of primitive savages who evolved on backstabs, raids and wars and do you think that we have any compassion or mersy? Or do you want to be ruled by women, and we all know how bad that is.
Ruled by women? What do you mean?
Also. That's a very atavistic view. If that were true, we would not be able to have society at all. Some degree of compassion and trust is NEEDED to function in society and to have a good life. You know, that's why we have things like hospitals. If everyone were self-serving, such a thing could not exist.

Steven Pinker can probably open your mind in this aspect. We are right now living in the most peaceful era of our species' existence. Which isn't really a coincidence, considering we're about 0.7 on the Kardashev scale and a type 1 civilization has no wars between countries. So, I suggest to you one of the best books possibly of the century: "The Better Angels of our Nature"
User avatar #65267 to #65262 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
What would Macedon be without Phillip? A band of sheep herders and farmers.
User avatar #65270 to #65267 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Wut? No, I don't believe that. I believe that every human that isn't severely neurologically damaged has the potential for greatness. You know what the thing about most people like Einstein, Tesla and so on are? They became great by themselves. There are speculations that Einstein actually made his own brain which led him to success, not that he had a pre-existing superbrain that led him to success.
User avatar #65273 to #65270 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
> I believe that every human that isn't severely neurologically damaged has the potential for greatness.
Yes, but not every human has the ability to lead.
>You know what the thing about most people like Einstein, Tesla and so on are? They became great by themselves.
Yeah, because there were born that way, born to become great men, geniuses by birth and early age.
User avatar #65265 to #65262 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
If everyone were solely self-serving*
User avatar #65264 to #65262 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Actually, there are maps for that, Yuropoors made them.
>Then who are we to pick out one to be above the rest? What's so special about that person?
The ability to lead and make good decisions.
>Some degree of compassion and trust is NEEDED to function in society and to have a good life.
We have oxytocin, I know. Stick with your own pakt and you will be safe, I never denied that.
>We are right now living in the most peaceful era of our species' existence.
What is ISIS? What's Israel? What's Ukrajina crisis?
User avatar #65268 to #65264 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
>Actually, there are maps for that, Yuropoors made them.
What KIND of resources though? Coal, oil, diamonds don't mean jack to a place where they don't have food nor drinking water.
>The ability to lead and make good decisions
Which most people who have normal cognition are able to do under the right circumstances.
>We have oxytocin, I know. Stick with your own pakt and you will be safe, I never denied that.
Well, why stick with only one group? Why not expand the moral sphere to animals, insects and people beyond our immediate family & community? We would gain so much more if we had a well-educated SPECIES as a whole and not just one well-educated group.
>What is ISIS? What's Israel? What's the Ukrajina crisis?
Presently existing crises. But, you know what? Those are miniscule and few compared to the rest of our species bloody, violent and sadistic history.
User avatar #65277 to #65268 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
>Why not expand the moral sphere to animals, insects and people beyond our immediate family & community?
That sounds autistic.
User avatar #65280 to #65277 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Hm, you sure showed me. You used a serious psychiatric disorder to berate me. I have met my master.
User avatar #65282 to #65280 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
No, really, people are ethno-centric and tribalist in their nature. And why the hell should we educate niggers when that has backfired? Why should we not stick with our rather than risk everything to educate barbarians who don't want to evolve, again?
User avatar #65293 to #65282 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
If you were in the same poor, desolate enviroment you'd probably not make much progress yourself. Regardless of skin colour. Now, the reason why Africans have an overall lower IQ is that they never moved out of Africa. They don't have stuff that stimulates them there and they can hardly build a civilization down there. Not sure if this is because of the low IQ or if it's because of the ground they're on. But I do know this: IQ is dynamic. EQ is more important either way.

So, you think that the only trait of humans is that they are ethno-centric and tribalist? I don't believe that. I think people also have the basis for compassion and cooperation in nature. The reason why so few move past their prejudices and fears is because to form their own opinions and to become their own person, they need to go against the main-stream, which is hard to do. It took me a while to get out of my prejudice.
#65296 to #65293 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
>The reason why so few move past their prejudices and fears is because to form their own opinions and to become their own person, they need to go against the main-stream, which is hard to do. It took me a while to get out of my prejudice.
Damn, are you by any chance a woman?
User avatar #65302 to #65296 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.................... bye...
*shakes head in dissapoint and slowly walks away with head down*
#65303 to #65302 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
No, no, I mean it because you think with emotions, like a woman.
User avatar #65304 to #65303 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
I don't. I think with both reason and emotion.
Wait, let me cure you of your ignorance...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-pg0En-_4
Here is one of my favourite videos ever. Enjoy!
User avatar #65309 to #65304 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Also, you sound like Wilson.
youtu.be/8c9mvw9AbgA?t=6m24s
User avatar #65310 to #65309 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Ironic thing. Hitchens was against racism.
User avatar #65311 to #65310 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
We will talk after I eat.
User avatar #65312 to #65311 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Nope. That was my last post here. I doubt that you will ever listen to what I have to say, so it's pretty pointless. Your information is scattershot and almost schizophrenic.
User avatar #65313 to #65312 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Ok, tuck tail and run bitch.
>Your information is scattershot and almost schizophrenic.
Your objective is reasonable and almost perfect.*
FTFY
User avatar #65308 to #65304 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
And what I mean is when people use feelings in judgement, it's like going easy on criminals because they were poor or "had a bad life", or not putting lazy people in jail. Order and law before everything.
User avatar #65307 to #65304 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Also, I don't believe in heaven.
#65306 to #65304 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Oh look what I've found.
User avatar #65305 to #65304 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Ignorant of confused ideas, yes and most of all confused people who think they are right. Be like a spear and have a point.
Are you by any chance liberal?
#65295 to #65293 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
>If you were in the same poor, desolate enviroment you'd probably not make much progress yourself.
>implying Europeans didn't go through an ice age
>implying Europe was a dreamland
>implying Africans didn't have empires
>using excuses
Read what's on the picture.
>Regardless of skin colour.
RACE=/=SKIN COLOR
Also, Africa has had empires and kingdoms.
>So, you think that the only trait of humans is that they are ethno-centric and tribalist?
Where did I say that?
>I think people also have the basis for compassion and cooperation in nature.
Within their own. Nigger, oxytocin a chemical in our brain in charge of love, loyalty, cooperation, etc. is released when we are with our own kin.
User avatar #65297 to #65295 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Yeah, my bad, I should've said regardless of race.

............................ Damn, they got you good.... Please..stop..browsing.../pol/.
#65300 to #65297 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Shigdy higdy.
#65271 to #65268 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
That's why there is trade, and Africa has a shitton of fertile land, and most right in the center.
>Which most people who have normal cognition are able to do under the right circumstances.
lel
The ability to lead is rare, and even more rare is the ability to lead good. There is only Alexander.
>We would gain so much more if we had a well-educated SPECIES as a whole and not just one well-educated group.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAA!
>example
>Haiti
>French set up colony
>Take blacks with them
>Free the blacks
>Blacks kill the French
>Mericans come and fix it
>Mericans leave
>Country turns into shit
>Mericans come and fix it again
>Mericans leave
>Country turns into shit again
Top kek m8.
This goes even against out entire nature.
>Those are miniscule and few compared to the rest of our species bloody, violent and sadistic history.
We are only getting started.
User avatar #65274 to #65271 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
The ability to lead is rare? What makes you believe that? Also, I have no idea what you mean by that greentext history at the end.. I have no idea what you mean by all that.

No, we're only ending it now. Do you think civilizations like in Star Trek have wars?
Oh yeah, and there's a chance we blow ourselves back to the stoneage. It depends on if WW3 happens at all. I'm not sure which direction we're moving, but you don't know that either.

Also, convince me why I should read the picture, what is it about?
User avatar #65279 to #65274 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Oh yeah, the ability to lead is rare, yes, compare on how many men there are that don't know how to lead.
User avatar #65283 to #65279 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
You've interviewed all of them and written a thesis on it? Nice, show me! : ) What kind of psychology studies have you engaged in to know this?
User avatar #65286 to #65283 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
>The ability to lead is rare? What makes you believe that?
You've interviewed all of them and written a thesis on it? Nice, show me! : ) What kind of psychology studies have you engaged in to know this?
Two can play that game.
User avatar #65290 to #65286 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Ah, touché, you countered one of my several points. Well, you know, I just have my anecdotal evidence. My evidence is that any type of skill can be forged through doing it over and over and over again, strengthening the neural pathways responsible for e.g. leading. That's why I believe what I believe.

I played ping-pong for the first time in several years about 3-4 days ago and I got great in 3-4 days. Well, at least pretty good.

Do you follow any YouTubers, by the way?
User avatar #65292 to #65290 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Abilities to lead can be forged within the family, true. But I doubt that democracy and electing people is any good. Noble families are noble for a reason.
Youtubers, IDK, many. Why ask?
User avatar #65294 to #65292 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
So.. what's special with the group of human beings collectively named 'family'? You don't even know any evolutionary psychology, how do you know if the ability to lead is nature or nurture?
Curious. Maybe we can exchange and become smarter.
User avatar #65419 to #65294 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Didn't see you reply, well same as byposted said. Those people behave and are not quite the same as the crowd.
User avatar #65432 to #65419 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
So... barely at all? Anyway, here's the thing: Your genetics aren't fate. You have much more important things to you than your heritage. That's my take. I'm expecting you to ridicule me for my opinions, but really, whatever.
User avatar #65436 to #65432 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Also take Caesar for example, as a young man he was a sort of a priest and then when he was recruited, still in his youth he was awarded with medal for curage who defended a point during a siege of a Greek city, fought alongside his men shoulder to shoulder, he conquered like a champion, he abandoned his own guardsmen so that he could fight and when his men were loosing just his presence their would raise the morale and when they were retreating he would go in their ranks and tell them to reform. One of his own soldiers tried to kill him and a Germanic guard cut of his arm to protect Julius. Do you even know the siege of Alesia?
User avatar #65441 to #65436 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Jealousy, low resources (although this one is mostly economic or whatever), inferiority complexes, prejudice, aggression, hivemind and hatred. That would be the building blocks of war
User avatar #65442 to #65441 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
I need to calm down, this is just too much autistic.
User avatar #65438 to #65436 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
I'm really not that interested in the details of war as the psychological mechanisms behind them are the same each time. But thanks.
User avatar #65439 to #65438 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
>psychological mechanisms behind them are the same each time.
Tell me, what's the same?
User avatar #65433 to #65432 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
My genetics are my fate, I am the living embodiment of my ancestral blood born to serve my people and to protect my heritage.
User avatar #65435 to #65433 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
lol, kinda pretentious
User avatar #65440 to #65435 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
lol, lol, lol
User avatar #65418 to #65294 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
In reading the biographies of great generals, one notices a pattern. From an early age, they are described as "natural leaders" and whatnot - more ambitious and technical in the approach to things.

What you've said about pingpong is true for any rudimentary task, and doesn't quite apply.
User avatar #65420 to #65418 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Given what we know about neuroscience, anyone can become anything with the right effort involved. Being a leader is simple: you need to be able to explain WHY you're doing what to do (SLAY THE HERETICS FOR THEY WENT AGAINST GOD! KILL THE JEWS FOR THEY KILLED OUR ECONOMY!). Another thing about that... most people who attempt to hold a speech much like HItler did will go into flowstate, so it's not that hard.

Actually... it works for most higher cognition skills too. At least while people are in the ages of 1-30. After that it only gets harder, but never gets impossible.
User avatar #65446 to #65420 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
I don't know what in the way of Lysenkoist nonsense you've been reading, but it's a fact of life that some people are little more than genetic slobs with no agency.

There is much more to leadership than the art of convincing the masses, which itself is hardly "simple."

Either one is born with a sufficient level of verbal intelligence or not. This is what niggers getting into "flowstate" looks like:
"Debate" American Common Core Style: Our Top Orators in Action "The Nuts Are Running The Asylum"
User avatar #65455 to #65446 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Also, do you know what neural plasticity is?
User avatar #65453 to #65446 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Tell me this: is there a single human being on earth alive 18+ today that doesn't live in the wild, lives in a fairly civilized area, but hasn't gone through education as it looks today?
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User avatar #65422 to #65420 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Do you think that any man could have defeated 250 000-300 000 soldiers with only 30 000-40 000 warriors?
There was only one Alexander, and talk about everyone can become a leader, being a leader is not something that can be achieved, it's like a penis, you are either born with it or you are a woman.
User avatar #65443 to #65422 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Nice copout. I loom forward to the day at which you can handle defeat
User avatar #65444 to #65443 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Oh SHIT, HAHAHAHHAHA
DEFEATED ME
NIGGER you are broken to the core and I'm defeated
Shiiiet
BRB after I eat.
User avatar #65434 to #65422 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Actually, I THINK all of them can change since I've interacted with patients that have social anxiety and I KNOW that you can stop being shy once you realize that other people are like yourself. Introversion I'm not sure about, but it's very possible.

I never said anything about evidence, the last were my personal opinion, the first were psychological facts.
User avatar #65437 to #65434 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Similar goals like you, same type as yourself maybe, but there are different types of people and those shy people stick with their own and don't like to interact with others very much. They have a nun-mentality.
User avatar #65429 to #65422 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Prove that? Also, be sure to differentiate between shyness, introversion and social anxiety. The first one is a personality trait. The second one is a personality type. The third one is a serious mental disorder. I think ALL of them can change.
User avatar #65431 to #65429 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
> I think
Ah, there it is, SUBJECTIVE evidence.
You think a pig can fly, but it can't.
User avatar #65428 to #65422 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
You're deranged, man, I need to stop talking to you. Cya. At least you like Tesla, that's a redeeming feature.

Didn't you also believe in the annunaki or something?
User avatar #65430 to #65428 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
>Didn't you also believe in the annunaki or something?
I don't know what to believe in any more, but I believe it as much as I believe in the story of Hercules.
User avatar #65425 to #65422 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Not really. There was one MLK, one Jobs, one Alexander, one Djinghis Khan... all just different forms of 'great leaders'

but why do you idolize war?
User avatar #65427 to #65425 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Also, personal traits like even shyness are carried on from a mother to her child.
User avatar #65426 to #65425 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Yes, there was one guy who beat his wife and his bitches, one bad company CEO, one great short term conqueror, on also even greater short term conqueror, all just diffrent forms, yeah. Anyone could have done what they did, yeah....
War is to a man what childbirth is to a woman.
#65421 to #65420 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
I can become a bird if I just focus enough.....   
CWA, CWA, REMOVE HAWKS, RAVENS RULE, WE ARE THE BLACK MASTER RACE!
I can become a bird if I just focus enough.....
CWA, CWA, REMOVE HAWKS, RAVENS RULE, WE ARE THE BLACK MASTER RACE!
User avatar #65423 to #65421 - cognosceteipsum (07/06/2014) [-]
Remember how you went to metalmind for questions of neuroscience? Yeah. It's showing that you don't know jack about it.
User avatar #65424 to #65423 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!
HAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!
He is a geneticist you IDIOT!
User avatar #65276 to #65274 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
You can take the nigger out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the nigger.
>Do you think civilizations like in Star Trek have wars?
>Sci-fi tv show
>Shigidy higdy
Just read it m8.
User avatar #65278 to #65276 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
No, I'm not going to read it, as it's probably some racist propaganda. Okay, you can have your view on humanity but know this: You are not going to get far in life. Gavna.
User avatar #65281 to #65278 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
HAHAHAHAHA
Facts hurt your feelings, ok. I shall go further than you will ever dream of.
User avatar #65285 to #65281 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
Not really. I just got bored with you being so stubborn.
Okay, then. I'm looking forward to seeing you on TED, ruling the world, getting a nobel prize or anything the like. Good luck!
User avatar #65287 to #65285 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Thank you.
#65256 to #65254 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Pic related.
User avatar #65258 to #65256 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
So, the people themselves can't fix security by cooperating?

I'll have to think about the other points for a while.
High quality public transport?! Maybe in Switzerland...
So, you guys have high quality buses and trains back in Bosnia?
User avatar #65260 to #65258 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
>cooperating
You seem to know the it but don't know the how to, nor the why.
>So, you guys have high quality buses and trains back in Bosnia?
Hell no.
User avatar #65263 to #65260 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
>You seem to know the it but don't know the how to, nor the why.
Why is pretty obvious to me. The reason is that it's beneficial to cooperate and we're a social species too. The how may be a bit harder to figure out, but not impossible.
>Hell no.
You have a state, yeah? We too. Our public transport sucks majorly as does your public transports, yet we have states. How about that? I can bet you that the public transport in many countries are also bad despite having states.
User avatar #65266 to #65263 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
True, but if not held by order we will fall into chaos. 1 Cohort could defeat a 1000 barbarians.
>You have a state, yeah? We too. Our public transport sucks majorly as does your public transports, yet we have states. How about that? I can bet you that the public transport in many countries are also bad despite having states.
Hell no, I've been outside Bosnia and those states look magical compared to my fatherland.
User avatar #65269 to #65266 - cognosceteipsum (07/05/2014) [-]
>True, but if not held by order we will fall into chaos. 1 Cohort could defeat a 1000 barbarians.
Well... yeah. But anarchy isn't synonymous with chaos.
>Hell no, I've been outside Bosnia and those states look lmagical compared to my fatherland.
We were talking about public transport only.
User avatar #65272 to #65269 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
No, it's his cousin.
And yes, public transport, magical.
#65215 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
MFW 4chan raids tumblr
MFW 4chan raids tumblr
User avatar #65348 to #65215 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Fag.
User avatar #65349 to #65348 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
You need to stop taking dicks in the ass. I know you love how they feel but stop.
User avatar #65350 to #65349 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
You need to stop taking dicks in the ass. I know you love how they feel but stop.
User avatar #65366 to #65350 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Wow such an original comment.
User avatar #65367 to #65366 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Wow such an original comment.
User avatar #65370 to #65367 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Schnizel is a faggot
User avatar #65371 to #65370 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
undeadwill is a faggot*
FTFY
User avatar #65373 to #65371 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
I get you are gay for me. But I have a bf.
User avatar #65403 to #65373 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
lel
User avatar #65224 to #65215 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Nothing much happened, just a bunch of bait threds.
User avatar #65318 to #65224 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
They spammed gore on the feminism tags.
User avatar #65319 to #65318 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
lel
User avatar #65327 to #65319 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
And fandom tags.

You really should join the fight faggot.
User avatar #65329 to #65327 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
link
User avatar #65334 to #65333 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Oh yeah, I think I got IP banned from umblr, posted some racist stuff there and they were all over me like a bear on honey.
User avatar #65335 to #65334 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Well then you are just a tard.
User avatar #65336 to #65335 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Faggot.
User avatar #65337 to #65336 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Look whose talking faggot
User avatar #65338 to #65337 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Plebian faggot
User avatar #65341 to #65340 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
You need to stop sucking dick.
User avatar #65342 to #65341 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
>said the cocksucker
User avatar #65343 to #65342 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Atleast I enjoy it. You do it because you crave it like a heron addict.
User avatar #65344 to #65343 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
lel
Bring me your evidence.
User avatar #65345 to #65344 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Your name is schnitzel
User avatar #65346 to #65345 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
schnizel*
User avatar #65347 to #65346 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Faggot*
User avatar #65208 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
The Nazi's never cared about their nation.

Discuss.

Schnitzel, yourgaylol, byposted
#65246 to #65208 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
Right, they all just died for the lulz.
User avatar #65314 to #65246 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
citations necessary.
#65225 to #65208 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
They did, that's why they were national socialists, and that's why they fought and died for Germany.
User avatar #65315 to #65225 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Citations necessary.
#65316 to #65315 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
You have got to be kidding me.
You have got to be kidding me.
User avatar #65317 to #65316 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Citations are necessary.
#65365 to #65317 - anonymous (07/05/2014) [-]
Citations necessary.
#65226 to #65225 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
because they'd be ostracized if they didn't
User avatar #65227 to #65226 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
No, they would be sent to a work camp. And fuck yeah, if you can fight you will. Even in older times german Teuton tribe was one of the most battle ready tribe where every man ready for war prepared and went to war and they didn't hesitate. War is to man what maternity is to a woman.
#65228 to #65227 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
z0mg awr so awsum
z0mg awr so awsum
User avatar #65229 to #65228 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxgrr0wL8M [Embed]
No man has ever lived in our recorded history without a war going on our planet. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
User avatar #65230 to #65229 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
nearly all the places that have war are uncivilized shitholes
#65245 to #65230 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
>"only uncivilized places do da war"
>Mesopotamia
>Greece
>Japan
>British Empire
>USA
>FUCKING ROME

Literally every great civilization has a strong warrior tradition, you couldn't be more wrong.
User avatar #65249 to #65245 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
Mesopotamia is a shit hole
Greece is broke
Japan barely even has an army
Britain minds its own business most of the time
No foreign army has set foot on American soil in nearly 200 years
Modern Rome is a city and nothing more
User avatar #65405 to #65249 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
I went into Mesopotamia below, so I will ignore it here.

Greece is broke
Being in a financial calamity makes a nation uncivilized? What about Turkey schnitzel ? Is that country a "shithole?"

Japan barely even has an army.
But it has the full backing of the United States, and has been willing to escalate tensions with China. Anyway, this will soon change, as the Japanese government has recently made obsolete the Macarther Clause.

Britain minds its own business most of the time
Yes, that country only marches lockstep with the United States.

No foreign army has set foot on American soil in nearly 200 years
How many times has an American army set foot on foreign soil in the last two centuries?
User avatar #65411 to #65405 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
No, actually, Turkey is one of the most civilized countries in the world and the people are hardworking and good, the only thing I don't like is their kids, they are american-swagfaggot-wanabes
#65413 to #65411 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
What about the women?
User avatar #65414 to #65413 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Meh
Their men are better looking that their women, no homo.
#65255 to #65249 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
DOES THIS NIGGA REALLY THINK I WAS REFERRING TO MODERN COUNTRIES WTF LOL
DOES THIS NIGGA REALLY THINK I WAS REFERRING TO MODERN COUNTRIES WTF LOL
#65289 to #65255 - anonymous (07/05/2014) [-]
&gt;nearly all the places that have war are uncivilized shitholes   
   
that sentence is present tense
>nearly all the places that have war are uncivilized shitholes

that sentence is present tense
User avatar #65404 to #65289 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
It also implies that regions with internal conflicts are "uncivilized shitholes." The sly wording confused youregaylol, and such may have come as intended.

Through effectively ignoring the dynamics by which the world operates - with the United States and its allies placed at the center of events - economicfreedom was able to project the fruits of militarism onto the Levant, as he does below.

Above, he refers to Mesopotamia as a "shithole." The pertinent question is: what actors have enabled militias to take control of such large swaths of the territory - almost down to Baghdad? If we wish to stay within the river banks, we come across Turkey. schnitzel Until around a year ago, the NATO member facilitated the movement of fighters and armaments, no matter the politics and end-user, into Syria - a nation which was once highly developed, at least by Middle East standards.

War rules our day. That much of the civilized world has experienced a long lull in the fighting is due to nothing more than American hegemony, which will, one day, run its course.
#65322 to #65289 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
Because the greatest civilizations in all of history don't count because "dey from da past".

Makes sense.
#65387 to #65322 - anonymous (07/05/2014) [-]
The ability to wipe out a convoy at the push of a button is not the same as bows and arrows....
User avatar #65407 to #65387 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
It is difficult to understand your point. Have your learned from the libertarian to trap youregaylol into a box through ambiguity?

Perhaps you meant that military technology, having advanced so far as to make war more horrid than ever before, will dissuade civilized nations from abandoning diplomacy in conflicts with one another. I have news for you....
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#65395 to #65387 - youregaylol (07/06/2014) [-]
So having advanced weaponry makes a civilization uncivilized, thats some flawless logic there.
User avatar #65251 to #65249 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Is, but now was. They failed because barbarians sacked them.
Greece is broke, but Greece laid the foundation for the western civilization and there would be no western civilization if Greeks didn't kick Persian ass.
Japan, the only reason it lost is because they didn't hit the oil on Pearl Harbor, and it's not about the size of the hammer.
Yet it was the largest empire in the world.
But yet 'Merica does that to others once in a while.
Ancient Rome was one of the greatest empires of all time.
User avatar #65291 to #65251 - pebar (07/05/2014) [-]
A lot of Rome's successes came from trade and allowing their conquered people to do their own thing
#65298 to #65291 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!
User avatar #65301 to #65299 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Or because they conquered people with a sword and a shield and had romanisation policies against the conquered people to keep them away from doing their own thing.
#65231 to #65230 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Depends on who fights those wars and for what.
User avatar #65233 to #65232 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Do I look like a muslim? They have taken a lot of land in such a short time, I admire their bravery.
User avatar #65235 to #65233 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
And you're national socialism is literally no different from muslims wanting sharia for everyone.
#65247 to #65235 - youregaylol (07/05/2014) [-]
Compare and contrast the policies and beliefs systems of both without saying "dey hate joos" and "dey both extremeist"
User avatar #65248 to #65247 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
they both want a strong government to force a single culture on their populations
User avatar #65237 to #65235 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Well, what do nat-socs fight for and what do jihadists fight for? Now pick a place where you would like to live, with us or them?
User avatar #65234 to #65233 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
you're reasons for loving war are just as petty
User avatar #65236 to #65234 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
I don't love war, who told you that? I only see it as a means of surviving life.
User avatar #65238 to #65236 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
>War is to man what maternity is to a woman
war destroys life. It doesn't make it prosper.
User avatar #65239 to #65238 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
The life of the enemy. Even ants have wars. We wage war so that we may live in peace.
User avatar #65408 to #65239 - byposted (07/06/2014) [-]
You retained the Aristotle quote from the Total War series, didn't you?
User avatar #65409 to #65408 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
User avatar #65412 to #65410 - schnizel ONLINE (07/06/2014) [-]
Counteroffer
User avatar #65241 to #65240 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
I'm an honest man, not a demagogue.
#65242 to #65241 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
You rip on Jews all the time. You are the definition of a demagogue.
You rip on Jews all the time. You are the definition of a demagogue.
#65368 to #65242 - alimais (07/05/2014) [-]
The last two millenniums people have ripped on Jews
#65243 to #65242 - schnizel ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Noble, yes, a demagogu, no.
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And fear is good, but panic is bad.
#65212 to #65208 - minibeep (07/05/2014) [-]
real nazis did
faggots who joined it because it was the cool trend probably didnt
SS schnizel ?
User avatar #65213 to #65212 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Citations necessary.
#65214 to #65213 - minibeep (07/05/2014) [-]
no im to tired to care
#65206 - youregaylol (07/04/2014) [-]
I sometimes enjoy listening to shock jocks, it's one of my negative hobbies that keeps me going throughout the day. Admittedly almost all of them propagate filth, but I do appreciate the clarity of some commentators. In a society where jews set the agenda the PC zealots have a tendency to smother the media with boring repetitive commentary. For some reason radio has attracted those who are able to break the mold of pre programmed teleprompters.

One of the shows I sometimes enjoy watching is Opie and Anthony. Now I should point out, they are both disgusting, but they don't cower behind the progressive do not cross line. They say what they feel, which I can respect. Anthony recently got attacked by a female nig nog who thought he was taking pictures of her, apparently thinking he was a national geographic photographer. She hit him 5 times while calling him a "white motherfucker".

He posted a pic with her face on it captioned with several bad words, none of them racial from what I can see unless you wanted to conclude that animal=black, which is such a huge leap of logic right?

And what does his broadcasting company do? They fire him, expecting to get a pat on the back from the PC police like Rush Limbaughs advertisers did in the wake of Sandy the Slut. But once again, it backfired. People are dropping Sirius like it's Blockbuster stock.

When will companies learn, liberals don't have money, they aren't your customer base. Unless your company sells failure and accepts food stamps.

news.yahoo.com/anthony-opie-anthony-fame-fired-twitter-rant-195335862.html
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#65221 to #65205 - pebar (07/05/2014) [-]
in case you can't read it   
   
#bringbackourgirls   
   
#your husband has killed more muslims girls than Boko Harem ever could   
#youcantbringbackourdead
in case you can't read it

#bringbackourgirls

#your husband has killed more muslims girls than Boko Harem ever could
#youcantbringbackourdead
User avatar #65218 to #65205 - robinwilliamson (07/05/2014) [-]
This guy ran a campaign on shutting down gitmo. Disappointed us there, too.
User avatar #65211 to #65205 - targaryren (07/05/2014) [-]
oh noes some muslims are terrorist so we either have to be mean to all of them or be nice
User avatar #65192 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
So how is everyone celebrating Freedom day?
#65209 to #65192 - anonymous (07/05/2014) [-]
Celebrated it with a hurricane.
User avatar #65199 to #65192 - pebar (07/04/2014) [-]
our church is hosting a cook out
User avatar #65210 to #65199 - undeadwill (07/05/2014) [-]
Also I bought tea bags and I plan to find a large body of water and dump it in.
User avatar #65202 to #65199 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
I think I see my grand parents today and listen to some patriotic music.
Tomorrow go see fireworks with my bf.
User avatar #65189 - pebar (07/04/2014) [-]
PARIS – The mother of a pupil at a French pre-school stabbed a teacher to death in front of her class Friday, the last day of the school year, authorities said.

The education minister said the mother apparently had "serious psychiatric problems," and pledged support for teachers in the face of angry or violent parents. Police said the mother was taken into custody.

Deadly attacks in a school are extremely rare in France, and the stabbing in front of a class of 5- and 6-year-olds raised concern at the highest levels. French President Francois Hollande expressed outrage at the attack at the Edouard Herriot school in Albi in southern France.

www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/04/police-mom-kills-kindergarten-teacher-in-class/
#65186 - syrianassassin (07/04/2014) [-]
jews are trying to take the religion board, cleverguy is the biggest jew. how to deal with filth?
#65187 to #65186 - pebar (07/04/2014) [-]
You're the only one posting anything jew related on the board.
#65188 to #65187 - syrianassassin (07/04/2014) [-]
because that jew cleverguy is in rage posting israel how angel it is.

and it is for the lulz.

so any help
#65190 to #65188 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
Maybe deal with it yourself?
#65193 to #65191 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
Your gif is broken
User avatar #65195 to #65194 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
No really yours in broken. This one is fine the other is broken.
#65196 to #65195 - syrianassassin (07/04/2014) [-]
but goy, remember the 60 trillion
#65197 to #65196 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
Why is it you aren't making sense? Its like your autistic, &quot;Hey this joke worked before so why is he not laughing&quot; Because you didn't build up to it. Its like yelling, &quot;THE ARISTOCRATS&quot; randomly expecting the punchline to be funny while ignoring all the build up that made it worth while.   
And you think simply making saying your phrase even more over the top will make up for no context but it doesn't it makes me realize how tired this attempt at humor is.
Why is it you aren't making sense? Its like your autistic, "Hey this joke worked before so why is he not laughing" Because you didn't build up to it. Its like yelling, "THE ARISTOCRATS" randomly expecting the punchline to be funny while ignoring all the build up that made it worth while.
And you think simply making saying your phrase even more over the top will make up for no context but it doesn't it makes me realize how tired this attempt at humor is.
User avatar #65198 to #65197 - syrianassassin (07/04/2014) [-]
wooh man, dont take it serious. i know it is broken

but i am not autistic
#65200 to #65198 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
It wasn't that it was the random &quot;but goy...&quot; for all of the reasons above. It didn't make sense.   
1. post broken gif   
2. post similar art style as broken gif one   
3. &quot;But goy&quot;   
   
It didn't make sense  and was too disjointed for me to see the connection between the images if that was your attempt at build up.
It wasn't that it was the random "but goy..." for all of the reasons above. It didn't make sense.
1. post broken gif
2. post similar art style as broken gif one
3. "But goy"

It didn't make sense and was too disjointed for me to see the connection between the images if that was your attempt at build up.
#65201 to #65200 - syrianassassin (07/04/2014) [-]
ok im sorry
ok im sorry
User avatar #65203 to #65201 - undeadwill (07/04/2014) [-]
Good.
#65179 - anonymous (07/04/2014) [-]
tfw the upper class will never trickle down their golden piss money to us plebs
#65204 to #65179 - youregaylol (07/04/2014) [-]
hey don't lump me in with you bruh
User avatar #65183 to #65179 - pebar (07/04/2014) [-]
Thomas Sowell - Tax Cuts For The Rich Trickle down theory does not exist. It is a strawman argument used by the left to demonize the right. Nobody says that if the rich do better then the poor will do better.
User avatar #65219 to #65183 - robinwilliamson (07/05/2014) [-]
But Supply Side was still a failure, regardless.
#65222 to #65219 - economicfreedom (07/05/2014) [-]
You're just spewing nonsense you don't understand.... You can't force unnecessary costs on business and expect nothing to happen.

You need both supply and demand for trade to take place.
User avatar #65400 to #65222 - robinwilliamson (07/06/2014) [-]
Spewing nonsense? Supply side economics being a failure is nonsense? I loved the culture of the 80s but it we weren't top of our game in economics for the long run.
User avatar #65182 to #65177 - ihatem (07/04/2014) [-]
Ahh, the Statue of Liberty, what a great way to argue against immigration by showing off the French gift regarding openness to immigrants.
#65169 - youregaylol (07/03/2014) [-]
I can't think of anyone more jewish than Richard Beltzer. I would say he's definitely on my top ten list for most hated Hollywood shills.

1. He thinks he knows more about war than the military because he reads newspapers. This may come as surprise to some of you, but the military has access to news. It also has access to mudslime cavemen out to kill them. I'm going to guess the actor doesn't have that experience, he's okay with sitting in his mansion while the uneducated lower class (which he claims to love of course) protects his jewish interests.( newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2006/03/18/belzer-proclaims-he-knows-better-about-iraq-uneducated-soldiers-iraq )

2. He baits stronger men into hurting him so he can later sue them for money. A jew faking injury for profit? Never heard that one before. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7n_SHrK408 )

3. He masquerades as a comedian like all the other shills (John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher, ect) to push the belief systems of his masters while he collects a fat corporate paycheck.

4. He believes in UFO sightings and once hosted a conspiracy theory show on Scifi, once again to profit off of other peoples stupidity.
User avatar #65171 to #65164 - undeadwill (07/03/2014) [-]
That's really impressive.
User avatar #65160 - akkere ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
CNN: Senator McCaskill Grills Dr. Oz Over Diet Scams
So what does the board think is the best course of action to take against companies that thrive on misinforming and outright scamming the public, especially ones that have successfully done so throughout the years?

A few general examples being the "natural health" craze, the nutritional supplements, as well as the lobbying and information conflict between GMOs and "Organic" Food.

Main reason I bring this up is because I've been reading up on this figure called "Dr. Oz", fittingly named as he's built a career of referring to various brands of nutritional supplements as "magical cures", even if they have no evidence properly acquired through studies and peer review that can so much as contribute to any positive effect at all. Meanwhile he's participated in a Supreme Court review in which he testifies to the supplements in a less enthusiastic manner. Yet, Oz is apparently not alone in the scamming of nutritional supplements either.

Also, for those who've studied and believe in the concept of the free market (Pebar, undeadwill), how exactly would the free market take on this issue? It seems the free market requires a public that is strongly informed so that they can properly allocate their demand to reject businesses guilty of non-preferable practices as well as quality of product, but how can it do so if the public is easily misinformed and sold to snake oil salesmen?
User avatar #65168 to #65160 - hawaiianhappysauce (07/03/2014) [-]
My response is buyer beware. Do your research before you buy shit. Dr. Oz has the right to promote what he wants, it's up to the consumer to not be retarded (most of the viewers are women, so I'm not surprised most of them buy into his shit).
#65161 to #65160 - anonymous (07/02/2014) [-]
newhope360.com/blog/its-only-vitamins-says-mel-gibson

Jackbooted gubmit thugs gonna take muh vitamins.
User avatar #65163 to #65161 - akkere ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
If this problem of false marketing for this industry has dated as far back as the early 90s, then perhaps it's something that requires more attention than previously thought.
User avatar #65167 to #65163 - undeadwill (07/03/2014) [-]
private quality assurance would fix that. As a company that only hands its seal of approval to products that meet the claims
#65153 - anonymous (07/02/2014) [-]
What do you think of Anarchism?
User avatar #65181 to #65153 - ihatem (07/04/2014) [-]
Literally impossible. There will always be someone in charge to some degree of whatever it is. That counts as government.
User avatar #65184 to #65181 - jewishcommunazi (07/04/2014) [-]
Anarchism=/=no governance.
User avatar #65223 to #65216 - jewishcommunazi (07/05/2014) [-]
Anarchy simply means the absence of state, while anarchism is an ideology that aims at eliminating social hierarchies, and with it, the state aswell.
User avatar #65399 to #65223 - ihatem (07/06/2014) [-]
Still, some sort of state is inevitable, regardless how formal it is, having an official building or whatever. Even if you're totally alone, you become your own state, you have some form of it one way or another.
User avatar #65401 to #65399 - jewishcommunazi (07/06/2014) [-]
True, anarchism aims at replacing the state with their mini-states that function through direct democracy most likely. Because these "states" aren't "a tool for one class to control another" they don't regard them as states.
User avatar #65487 to #65401 - ihatem (07/07/2014) [-]
Isn't that why there's local - state - national government? Or local - district - national?
User avatar #65578 to #65487 - jewishcommunazi (07/09/2014) [-]
Sort of, but they don't really function in a bottom-up and more "popular" manner like what anarchists advocate for.
User avatar #65581 to #65578 - ihatem (07/09/2014) [-]
How could anything the size of maybe Colorado let's say, function more bottom up than calling local and state representatives?
In better days of course, not these days where corporations cheated power, but in the Woodrow Wilson era and Roosevelt, but with modern communication. Is it that Anarchism would just basically take the levels of government and improve the democratic power with modern communication infrastructure into advanced bodies? Because you need those tiers if you A.) want to function at that size of a nation and B.) realize the potential of a nation's wealth by not sizing down too much. It sounds difficult to manage but possible in ways.
User avatar #65176 to #65153 - Shiny (07/03/2014) [-]
It's a nice ideal that the good of humanity strives for, but civilization isn't ready for it. Not for a long time.
User avatar #65166 to #65153 - undeadwill (07/03/2014) [-]
A noble fantasy.
User avatar #65165 to #65153 - jewishcommunazi (07/02/2014) [-]
I agree with their goals, but I think their tactics won't get them very far. Assuming you're talking about revolutionary/revolutionary-ish anarchism and not anarcho-capitalism. If it's anarcho-capitalism, then I think it's very unrealistic.
#65170 to #65165 - youregaylol (07/03/2014) [-]
>communist
>talking about other ideologies being unrealistic

lol
User avatar #65174 to #65170 - jewishcommunazi (07/03/2014) [-]
If I thought communism was unrealistic I wouldn't be a communist in the first place.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
#65175 to #65174 - youregaylol (07/03/2014) [-]
Well I wasn't trying to say that you realized your ideology was unrealistic.
User avatar #65162 to #65153 - pebar (07/02/2014) [-]
it makes libertarians look bad
User avatar #65154 to #65153 - schnizel ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Bretty bad.
User avatar #65155 to #65151 - ablueguy (07/02/2014) [-]
Is that shit for real?
Half the people in Malmo are foreigners?
User avatar #65207 to #65155 - adak ONLINE (07/05/2014) [-]
Only if you count people with one foreign parent and one swedish parent as foreigners, which is a bit of a hazy area. Most of the foreigners in Malmö are most likely from Denmark anyway so it feels a bit odd to think of them as foreign, they're essentially the same "people" as us, the only real difference is the language.
User avatar #65157 to #65155 - schnizel ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
A bit more than a half.
User avatar #65158 to #65157 - ablueguy (07/02/2014) [-]
It must feel terrible to be outnumbered by foreigners in your own country.

User avatar #65159 to #65158 - schnizel ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
And the funny thing is that people who supported the immigration are also the ones who first left Malmo.
User avatar #65172 to #65159 - alimais (07/03/2014) [-]
I blame the Jews

Jewish activist promotes "multicultural mode" for Europa: Sample Sweden
User avatar #65173 to #65172 - schnizel ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
Jews.......
User avatar #65156 to #65155 - schnizel ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Yep.
#65141 - alimais (07/01/2014) [-]
Pebar, undeadwill

How does the market fix society ?
Because shit like thug culture is dangerously increasing leading to African Americans which are only a 1/9 of the US to commit 1/3 of its crimes.
Nope, I won't call out to lynch black people
#65144 to #65141 - pebar (07/01/2014) [-]
People commit so many crimes because it is profitable to commit crimes. For example gangs like to attack each other to maintain control over an area and have a monopoly. Monopolies by definition control the market and they tend to be very profitable. By allowing markets to work, you introduce competition which sucks away the profit of gangs. If major pharmaceutical companies, or even just gardeners, produce drugs, gangs no longer have an economic incentive to kill each other because they would have nothing to gain from it.
#65180 to #65144 - anonymous (07/04/2014) [-]
That quote is not a literal truth, it's an unintentional consequence, because the government hires people who shoot at the motherfuckers, even if they're too thick to realize the legalities that can eliminate their market. Another terribly worded quote from Friedman.
#65148 to #65144 - youregaylol (07/02/2014) [-]
You're assuming that degenerates only exist because of a vague profit motive.

In actuality it's a combination of poverty (which your market can never eliminate), environment (which your market can never improve), culture (which your market will never correct), genetics (which your market can never change), class tension (which your market encourages), and media (which your market profits from).

So really you can't do anything about it.
#65149 to #65148 - pebar (07/02/2014) [-]
Responsibility to the Poor regarding poverty
User avatar #65220 to #65149 - robinwilliamson (07/05/2014) [-]
I'm looking at- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty

And you mean to tell me that all of these countries are more Milton Friedman than we are?
User avatar #65147 to #65144 - schnizel ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Pebar, pebar and pebar.
Why no just whip them, put them on the cross and spear them?
User avatar #65146 to #65144 - alimais (07/02/2014) [-]
Yeah that's the gang aspect but what's about random thugs ?

Thugs life won't end when gangs don't profit anymore
User avatar #65137 - jokeface ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
So. Here's what I don't get about politics. It seems like there are some countries in the world that just manage better than others. France leads the world in healthcare. Finland is the best in education. Switzerland has the lowest crime rates. So my question is, if we can readily observe these countries that are more successful than anyone else, why isn't every country trying to emulate the same healthcare system as France, the same education as Finland, the same crime prevention as Switzerland, and so on? Why do we all insist on doing things differently when there are better solutions right in front of us?
User avatar #65143 to #65137 - akkere ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
A couple reasons -
Plenty of nations are built up in different ways that simply copy and pasting legislatures would do more harm than good. Many nations have differently shaped economies dependent on the method of achieving industrialization or lack thereof, for instance.
The US, for instance, a nation that is built on independent businesses and industries with varying degrees of government impact, differs greatly to a nation such as Cuba which has a great deal of nationalized businesses directly controlled by their government.

That being said, sometimes copy and pasting legislatures WOULD work, but some politicians would prefer to write original ones that pander to some forces (including but not limited to; lobbyists). For instance, the US healthcare system was designed to pander to health insurance companies that were afraid they would be wiped off with a nationalized healthcare service, so rather than adopting the more popular, more safe and effective single-payer system, the current healthcare system was shaped in a peculiar manner that it is today; saving the health insurance businesses, but condemning others.

There's other examples I could probably cite, but I wouldn't want to bore you with them.
User avatar #65142 to #65137 - alimais (07/01/2014) [-]
Final solution ?
User avatar #65140 to #65137 - targaryren (07/01/2014) [-]
well...I suppose a solution for one place won't always work for another.
but they maybe should see if it will work
User avatar #65138 to #65137 - alimais (07/01/2014) [-]
Because there are people who don't like people having a good time on this planet.
#65123 - alimais (07/01/2014) [-]
Thank you USA for establishing another Islamic state

rt.com/news/169716-isis-jihad-muslims-syria/
User avatar #65135 to #65123 - undeadwill (07/01/2014) [-]
I though you guys wanted them to destroy Israel?
User avatar #65136 to #65135 - alimais (07/01/2014) [-]
You take jokes too seriously also you shouldn't lump everyone down into one box,

Israel as it is now can't be so easily removed and their Zionist government, Zionist rabbis and everything else Zionist is the problem.
Israelis are included when it comes to manipulating the masses, look at the video I posted about Ernst Zündel getting interviewed by a Israeli Journalist.

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