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User avatar #70132 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Do You Want To Build Fascism? (Frozen parody) A gr8 song for all those fellow /pol/ites
User avatar #70148 to #70132 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
This song is trully sad though, like it had me at a bad mood for class.
#70134 to #70132 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
All euroids are beige colored apes
User avatar #70146 to #70134 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Minority confirmed.
#70157 to #70146 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
beige assed euroid ape confirmed
User avatar #70159 to #70157 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Don't worry you can be a minority with me
User avatar #70158 to #70157 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Damn straight, you didn't deny what I said so I know it's true now.
User avatar #70139 to #70134 - youregaylol (09/29/2014) [-]
if beige colored apes can dominate every other race in the world, what does that say about a non beige ape?

#70142 to #70139 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
they dont dominate more. even if they were, they(you) still apes. by the way, niger dominates you at the moment in your amerigo vispuchia
User avatar #70143 to #70142 - youregaylol (09/29/2014) [-]
#70156 to #70143 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
You learn, fucked ape
#70126 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
So, how long before some of Eric Frein's Stormfront posts surface?
User avatar #70098 - ribocoon (09/28/2014) [-]
Tim Minchin - A Peace Anthem for Palestine ITT we all get along
#70135 to #70128 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
amerika shvamerica is main world agressor
#70095 - robinwilliamson (09/28/2014) [-]
Tell me again why the CIA doesn't sell massive amounts of marijuana and shrooms to the Iraqi and Syrian governments, then infiltrate ISIS with shipments to headquarters around the map and just get all of them chilled and open.
User avatar #70097 to #70095 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
how do you know they don;t
#70089 to #70083 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
She looks pretty integrated, I don't see the problem.
#70085 to #70084 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
last one just 4fun
User avatar #70051 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
Police interview of suspects in teen's slaying released

skip to 2:53

3 female police officers couldn't restrain one skinny hoodrat, remind me again why we allow women to be police?
User avatar #70052 to #70051 - jewishcommunazi (09/28/2014) [-]
If I'm not mistaken, the standards for females are lowered. Must be some affirmative action bullshit policy.
User avatar #70054 to #70052 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
They couldn't have been trained to extend both of their hands on someones chest and lean on them, thats something 4 year olds do when they don't want to go to bed.
#70049 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
Mindblowing truth
Mindblowing truth
User avatar #70289 to #70049 - brendantheferret (10/13/2014) [-]
>Average /pol/ user
#70044 - alimais (09/28/2014) [-]
Look at that beast
#70086 to #70042 - dumerveil (09/28/2014) [-]
I'm not much of a politics guy but undoubtedly this means I'm a retard to someone.
User avatar #70091 to #70086 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
No this is good. I'm surprised.
#70082 to #70042 - jewishcommunazi (09/28/2014) [-]
Man, I don't like this one...
User avatar #70050 to #70042 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
what is this?
#70078 to #70053 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
did I do ok pebar-san
#70087 to #70078 - pebar ONLINE (09/28/2014) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #70111 to #70087 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
that is Monty Python right?
User avatar #70112 to #70111 - pebar ONLINE (09/29/2014) [-]
User avatar #70113 to #70112 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
I should watch that some time
User avatar #70088 to #70087 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
I'm sorry :c
I thought most of my answers were ok
User avatar #70092 to #70088 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
It is so easy to tell which answers make you left or right...
User avatar #70099 to #70092 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
should I go over my answers
User avatar #70104 to #70100 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
Social Issues:
well I am pro-choice but don;t really like the idea of abortions, so the less unnecessary abortions the better so I chose " Pro-choice, but providing birth control, sex education, and social services could help reduce the number of abortions"

yes for gay marriage

I dunno, my state doesn't have the death penalty and I think that is good, but I feel like the federal government should be able to use it for the most serious cases if there isnt a shadow of a doubt they did it...but I don;t think the death penalty should just be given to every murderer

no free birth control

terminally ill patients should be allowed to end their own life but only after a psychological examination to prove they are in a sound mental state

this referencing God one I could care less about, people who complain about the pledge or in God we trust are dumb, but I say we keep existing references and just don;t create new ones
User avatar #70121 to #70104 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Your still a disgusting piece of shit though.
User avatar #70123 to #70121 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
love you too
User avatar #70119 to #70104 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Surprisingly I agree with most of yours, I guess my importance varied for some questions like Immigration was "Most" and you know my stance. But for more lefty seeming positions I kept somewhat/less important. I also answered more questions for some parts.

User avatar #70125 to #70119 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
most of mine were somewhat only really less for something I am unsure about or something that is dumb like the god thing
#70122 to #70119 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
User avatar #70105 to #70104 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
Environmental Issues:
Global Warming is a threat to the environment

the US should Incentivize the private sector to develop alternative forms of energy

the federal government should continue to preserve and protect national parks it's what teddy would of wanted

the government should continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry

not really sure about the truck one

I think we need to know more about fracking but right now the apparent cons outway the pros

for the labeling one I chose "No, we have selectively bred crops for thousands of years and labeling GMO foods adds an unfounded stigma to the science"
User avatar #70130 to #70105 - pebar ONLINE (09/29/2014) [-]
John Stossel - Saved By Green Tech?
User avatar #70106 to #70105 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
Economic Issues:
I feel like it should be raised alittle...but not alot

abled-bodied sane adults shouldn't be required to work to have welfare because what happens if they cant find a job for a period of time? however in order to receive benefits they should be looking for a job or enrolled in education and job training programs

you aren;t gonna like what I said I said the government should increase taxes to multinational corporations

I am gonna be honest I am not an economist which is why I don;t really hold super strong opinions on some of these...so I dunno about the the corporate tax rates

or really the subsiding farms...but if they think taking temporary measures will help stabilize prices that sounds ok

Yes wall street executives should be charged

I am gonna skip the next too because I really don;t know and am not gonna pretend like I do

as for increase sales taxes to lower property taxes I am on the fence...I mean property taxes are the most reliable source of income for the state, but at the same time if people can;t afford to live in their houses it could increase homelessness or something
User avatar #70107 to #70106 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
Domestic Policy Issues:
I'm not really against people owning most guns but i say background checks should be required and that you are sane and are trained in gun safety and how to use it properly

I think being caught doing illegal drugs should be punished with treatment and only drug dealers and lords should be sent to jail.

no on affirmative action regardless, we should offer social programs to address poverty regardless of race or ethnicity

the patriot act could be ok, but you should limit the scope of the governments powers

no on Super PACS

no set term limits

I chose No, gerrymandering allows officials to more effectively represent the interests of their constituency

and yes to background checks
User avatar #70114 to #70107 - pebar ONLINE (09/29/2014) [-]
Gerrymandering Explained you should watch this
#70127 to #70114 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
the Mixed-Member Proportional Representation thing sound spretty neat   
thanks for sharing
the Mixed-Member Proportional Representation thing sound spretty neat
thanks for sharing
#70115 to #70114 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
were my other answers ok?
I like to think I am somewhat in the middle between the parties
User avatar #70116 to #70115 - pebar ONLINE (09/29/2014) [-]
I disagree with a lot of what you said, especially your economic positions.
and your domestic positions.

And you're not really in the middle; you're pretty democrat.
#70117 to #70116 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
maybe it's just because I am from Massachusetts
maybe it's just because I am from Massachusetts
#70136 to #70117 - anonymous (09/29/2014) [-]
all beige euroids from matzochussets are pedophiles?
User avatar #70137 to #70136 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
#70118 to #70117 - pebar ONLINE (09/29/2014) [-]
you sure have a lot of anime stuff...
you sure have a lot of anime stuff...
#70120 to #70118 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
I have accumulated alot during my time on FJ   
surprisingly I don;t really watch that much anime   
also does this mean we can;t be friends?
I have accumulated alot during my time on FJ
surprisingly I don;t really watch that much anime

also does this mean we can;t be friends?
User avatar #70108 to #70107 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
Healthcare Issues:
yes to legalizing marijuana

I don;t know about Obamacare, but it doesnt seem to be very effective

Foreign Policy Issues:
I don;t think I am one of those people who is like "F the military" or whatever, I get why we spend so much on the military, but I don't think it would hurt to decrease a little of how much we spend and use it for other things. So basically yes to decreasing military spending.

the military should use drones over countries for intelligence but if they are going to fire they need the other countries permission

the situation in the middle east is a big mess, and I don;t agree with everything Israel does, but I think we should still support them

terrorist suspects should be given a fair trial

yes the US should stay in the UN

Yes, sometimes you have to spy on your allies
User avatar #70217 to #70108 - jdrinfantry ONLINE (10/10/2014) [-]
Just a little side note to your view on "Terrorist suspects should be given a fair trial"
I somewhat agree, but the Taleban leader where I served in Afghanistan (Helmand Province's Taleban Mullah) who was behind over a 1000 ISAF soldiers death, has been in Guantanamo but he was released due to the lack of evidence provided in the court room, and has resumed his previous position in Afghanistan and continues to kill and dismember our soldiers.
I think they should be treated as prisoners of war, to protect those still serving in their country.
User avatar #70218 to #70217 - princessren (10/10/2014) [-]
oh..well yeah
but like if someone is just a "suspected" terrorist and not an actual leader of a terrorist organization then I think it should go to court and they should be given all the rights
User avatar #70220 to #70218 - jdrinfantry ONLINE (10/10/2014) [-]
Yeah well. It's just important to remember what happens when you take these cases into a civilian courtroom. I'm all for the rights of every individual, but I've also watched some pretty decent men die because of some political mistakes.

I just thought I wanted to share my knowledge, it seemed pretty relevant.
User avatar #70109 to #70108 - princessren (09/29/2014) [-]
Education Issues:
Yes I support the Common Core national education standards

Immigration Issues:
my stance can be summarized as "f illegals"
User avatar #70101 to #70100 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
User avatar #70102 to #70101 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
I'll be waiting fuckhead.
#70103 to #70102 - princessren (09/28/2014) [-]
please verbally abuse me more
User avatar #70079 to #70078 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
Another reason to hate you.
#70048 to #70042 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
yep, this is bullshit

we really need a proper far right movement in the states
User avatar #70124 to #70048 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
>3% socialist
User avatar #70055 to #70048 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
because we all know how good of an idea fracking is.....

User avatar #70056 to #70055 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
That was never mentioned.

pebar, talk to this dude about fracking.
User avatar #70061 to #70056 - pebar ONLINE (09/28/2014) [-]
I don't really know that much about fracking, other than what it is.
User avatar #70063 to #70061 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
you posted that john stossel video about it, and if I remember you wrote a few paragraphs
User avatar #70094 to #70063 - robinwilliamson (09/28/2014) [-]
Fracking is easy to fuck up, since they essentially break the earth and the liquid stores underground make the tectonics nervous as shit and very often easily slip thanks to loss of friction in the ground, so oops, now Oklahoma has around 10-15 times as many magnitude 3+ earthquakes.

Fuckup number two is not having as much control of the liquid underground as we'd like because we're not mega-gophers, and that can also often easily slip and runaway into underground water sources or nearby aboveground water.

Ohshit number three: it's sucking up the sources with margin of error losses of natural gas we don't really know how to calculate right, and remaining content we don't know how to count that well either, and unless alternative energy gets rolling along at a proper rate, we won't be prepared economically for losing resources we're being so dependent on.

No party wants to think about it right though. It's black and white to them, either fire at will or don't do it at all. It's not horrible as a method, it just needs to be done right with the 5 W's and How like anything else.
User avatar #70057 to #70056 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
i was surprised there was no question on spending for salt water purification
because phoenix is going to be a ghost town in a few hundred years is we dont start using it
User avatar #70058 to #70057 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
in a few hundred years Phoenix is going to be a part of mexico so who cares.
User avatar #70059 to #70058 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
and florida, belguim, amsterdam, and bangladesh will all be underwater
User avatar #70069 to #70059 - pebar ONLINE (09/28/2014) [-]
Compared to coal and oil, I mean
User avatar #70068 to #70059 - pebar ONLINE (09/28/2014) [-]
Are you referring to climate change raising the sea level?
If so, natural gas provided by fracking is relatively cleaner it still produces CO2 but it's still cleaner energy.
User avatar #70071 to #70068 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
dont the chemicals flow into streams and rivers during fracking

or is that a myth
User avatar #70060 to #70059 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
and nothing of value was lost
User avatar #70062 to #70060 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
where do you live?
User avatar #70064 to #70062 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
In a hundred years I'll either be in heaven or in a cryogenic therapy chamber.
User avatar #70066 to #70064 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
User avatar #70065 to #70064 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]

who cares about the future cause well be in heaven by then
User avatar #70067 to #70065 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
Or just dead, in which case you still shouldn't care about a hundred years into the future.

It's likely we'll be in a nuclear winter by the end of the century.
User avatar #70070 to #70067 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
so basically your stance is that we can do whatever we want with the environment cause eventually it will be destroyed by nukes
User avatar #70093 to #70070 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
ohh boo hoo
User avatar #70072 to #70070 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
My stance is we should allow the science to catch up with the hype before jumping to conclusions, and that if something is a problem it will be dealt with when we are able to coherently asses the situation.

I'm sure there are going to billions of problems hundreds of years from now, but I'm focused on the billions of problems that are relevant in my lifetime and my grandchildrens lifetime.
User avatar #70073 to #70072 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
then maybe use technology to find a better source of energy than oil....

instead of tearing up the environment, let science catch up to the hype and find a better and more cost efficient energy source
User avatar #70074 to #70073 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
There are several energy sources that can serve as alternatives to oil, namely nuclear power. That technology is already there, we're just at a point where it's not a necessity to drastically change our infrastructure. There is more than enough oil left in the world, and when it becomes cheaper to drive a nuclear powered car than a hummer we'll make that shift. It just takes time. Necessity is the mother of invention.
#70043 to #70042 - youregaylol (09/28/2014) [-]
#70040 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
yo repubs how does it feel knowing your race is dieing
#70096 to #70040 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
i could ask you the same
#70037 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
lulz out of curiosity. As a Nationalist and a Jew, do you ever intend to live in Israel?
User avatar #70041 to #70037 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]

But I went to Israel when i was like 7 and Im gonna do birthright with my cousins in a few years
User avatar #70080 to #70041 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
He didn't ask you
#70075 to #70041 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
whats birthright? like in this sense
User avatar #70077 to #70075 - PopcornViking (09/28/2014) [-]
If youre Jewish you get a free trip to Israel anytime between ages 18 and 25 or something like that and you stay in designated houses in different parts of the country
Im not sure how long it is
Probably a week
User avatar #70081 to #70077 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
Yeah I might do that, what's keeping me back is how unsafe that place is now.
User avatar #70039 to #70037 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
Also not a believer, I use it as an ethnical term because so many others do so. I celebrate the holidays and shit, daz it.
User avatar #70038 to #70037 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/28/2014) [-]
No I'm never coming back, I'm not a Zionist myself. I'm also not really a nationalist to Israel, I just happen to dislike mudslimes and agree with the actions they take.
#70035 - alimais (09/28/2014) [-]
Anyone here who knows Ray McGovern the ex-CIA guy ?
#70032 - alimais (09/27/2014) [-]
Oi, Russia is master ruse man
>Russia’s state-run OAO Rosneft (ROSN) said a well drilled in the Kara Sea region of the Arctic Ocean with Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) struck oil, showing the region has the potential to become one of the world’s most important crude-producing areas.

>The announcement was made by Igor Sechin, Rosneft’s chief executive officer, who spent two days sailing on a Russian research ship to the drilling rig where the find was unveiled today. The well found about 1 billion barrels of oil and similar geology nearby means the surrounding area may hold more than the U.S. part of the Gulf or Mexico, he said.

>new oil wells

>old diamond news
#70076 to #70032 - anonymous (09/28/2014) [-]
i love how russia is still like a massive fuck you to the rest of the world, sure its corrupt as fuck but really what countries arent these days, but i reckon if it came down to it russia will just do its own thing and not give two fucks while the rest of the world simply just has to watch and hope russia doesnt shit on them
#70034 to #70033 - alimais (09/27/2014) [-]
I forgot that I had it in much better resolution on my pc got the picture above via url
#70022 - anonymous (09/27/2014) [-]
Obama's trying to choke out tobacco and firearms in the US. plsno, vote republicans before it's too late
User avatar #70031 to #70022 - drastronomy (09/27/2014) [-]
tobacco is for degenerates
User avatar #70028 to #70023 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
A lot of new anons may actually be decedents from /pol/ checking this place out due to IA's vids, they probably leave 2 min later because this is the worst shithole.
User avatar #70019 - PopcornViking (09/27/2014) [-]

catalonia wants to become independent
User avatar #70025 to #70019 - feelythefeel (09/27/2014) [-]
If Europe gets enough separatist sentiment, can it carry over to Cascadia?
#70013 - alcoholicsemen ONLINE (09/27/2014) [-]
Daffy D. takes out dictators with rockets.
Vote Daffy D. 2016
#70005 - alimais (09/27/2014) [-]
At least there are Space Elevator threads to distract me from depressive politics

You need to login to view this link

Also since the Gamergate shit, /pol/ became even much shittier then it already was but at least there are still Space Elevator threads
User avatar #69977 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
National Conservatism or National Socialism? go fuck yourself if neither
User avatar #69983 to #69977 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
National socialism is retarded, Nazis notwithstanding.
User avatar #69984 to #69983 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
I more so mean a high level of National Pride and therefore creation of laws based on solely the countries citizens and not anyone else.
User avatar #69986 to #69984 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
National pride is usually an inefficient concept. I'm not a fan of immigration but that's a result of the way it's usually done. A large amount of national pride could well cause problems for the immigration I like.
User avatar #69991 to #69986 - youregaylol (09/27/2014) [-]
>liking any form of immigration
>being this shill
User avatar #70000 to #69991 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
Immigraton can be good as it increases the supply of labour, decreasing wages, increasing business efficiency and encouraging investment in the long run.

What makes immigration bad a lot of the time is how governments do it. Things like:

>Letting literally everyone in
>Letting people in when labour markets are oversaturated, leading to leeching
>Not doing anything when your immigrants are trying to do things like enact Sharia law
>Letting in people who can't speak the native tongue to a reasonable degree
>Giving immigrants special rights that put them above the native populace

I don't see the problem with letting in immigrants with a decent education, can speak the language, no or minor criminal record, and people who wont do dumb shit like blowing themselves up or destroying culture.
User avatar #70001 to #70000 - youregaylol (09/27/2014) [-]
Immigration only helps two groups (besides the immigrants themselves), business men and cultural marxists. The state can adequately control the growth of the market and ensure that the native populace can provide the needed labor at fair wages. Business men love immigrants because they are easier to exploit than native workers, and will use them to provide excessive amounts of wealth for themselves, wealth that they could not have made by paying fair wages to natives and expanding at a smaller rate.

Unless the entire (physically able) country is employed and the uneducated all have jobs there is no need for immigration unless the state subsidizes laziness for an exorbitant amount of time.

Cultural marxists benefit from immigration because introducing a foreign element into the nation increases strife.
User avatar #70007 to #70001 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
>Fair wages
>Not understanding that concentrated wealth for businessmen and corporations is a good thing
>Expand at a smaller rate

Sorry, I didn't realise that you were a liberal.
User avatar #70008 to #70007 - youregaylol (09/27/2014) [-]
Liberal =/= anything involving the state
Liberal = american leftist, pro fag culture, pro immigration, corporatism, welfare state, affirmative action, multiculturalism, anti gun, anti military, feminism, and cultural marxism.

youregaylol = far right, pro family, anti immigrant, anti corporation, anti welfare monkey, pro worker, monoculturalism, pro gun (in the citizens hands), pro military, pro traditional gender roles, and pro order and civility.

Businessmen can earn a respectable wage in their trade while still working within the interests of the state. Opportunism and exploitation is a sign of treachery to ones nation.
User avatar #70010 to #70008 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
No, exploitation and opportunism is a sign of maximisation of growth and efficiency in the long run. If you wish to be inefficient and grow slowly then so be it, but it's economically ignorant and has no place in politics.
#70011 to #70010 - youregaylol (09/27/2014) [-]
"No, exploitation and opportunism is a sign of maximisation of growth and efficiency"
User avatar #70012 to #70011 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
Forcing wages down means that the company has more money for investment and to lower costs further.
High concentrations of wealth in a small minority (The whole 1% thing) means that there's a significant amount of money that the banks have to loan and increase investment further. You could have a more even distribution but that means that very little money would be saved, it'd all be spent by people increasing demand, inflation, and setting up for severe stagflation in the future.

Study some economics.
#70014 to #70012 - youregaylol (09/27/2014) [-]
A couple problems here, but first lets focus on the fact that you associate your form of economic prosperity with exploitation, and that you consider this a positive. I think you need to phrase your ideas better.

Then lets go on the "study economics" nonsense, you're aware that there are other schools of economics besides Chicago and Austrian, correct?

Third, you assume that service to a state somehow prevents companies from being efficient, and that you need individuals to invest to keep the country running, when a state can have that exact same function. Large industries would become nationalized, their operations and profits belonging to the state who would then expand the operation steadily concurrent with the needs of the state. In addition inflation can only be caused by government, as the government controls the currency and the amount available to the public, meaning that controlling both large industry and the monetary supply you have an economy that is subservient to an entity, not an individual plutocracy.

You do not need an individual to make an investment in the nations industry, you only need the industry. Unemployment can be eradicated and a living wage can be achieved and surpassed if you mobilize the upper class in collaboration with the working class.
User avatar #70015 to #70014 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
Well I don't much care how the idea sounds, the implications are the important thing. Free market set wages, little government intervention, and maximisation of efficiency and growth.

I don't subscribe to any specific school of thought, I just say what I say based on the research and theory I've studied.

Nationalisation of industries are usually extremely inefficient due to them being a part of a greater whole, diseconomies of scale kicking in and inefficiencies manifesting within the government-corporate link. They're also less efficient than privatised industries as profit is not at the heart of their existence, rather a service to the people and government becoming paramount. Combine this with the fact that governments often sacrifice economic efficiency in exchange for political sway, monopolies becoming near impossible to remove if they become inefficient or more efficient rivals come along, and no pressure from shareholders to increase profits, and you usually have an inefficient system, and even if it is done well, still less efficient than privatisation.
As for the inflation part, I assume you're basing this off the monetarist's view of inflation where MV=PT? Yeah, the government has full control over the money supply but the velocity of circulation is only fixed in the short run, in the long run there can still be huge inflation, and there would be due to the more balanced distribution of income and wealth.

You don't need an individual, you need large corporations and banks, heavy state interventionist policies are good at making people happy in a singular timeframe but not at advancing forward, as profit incentive is dulled and free market economics is not allowed to push the markets towards the natural state as well.
User avatar #70016 to #70015 - youregaylol (09/27/2014) [-]
Expand upon the idea that nationalization equates to an automatic increase in cost. Profit that will be utilized by the state is a benefit to the state, therefor it is a major priority. Any profit created will be used to increase the workers wage or the industries scope as necessary for the state. There does not need to be individual selfishness for a company to be efficient, only proper management. In a centralized government where the power is rested in strong executive branch that serves as a vanguard to the states interest there would be no political favors to be traded for stability, in fact the current corporatist system is solely responsible for increased corruption and big business running rough shot.

Inflation can only occur when there is more currency introduced into the system than there is a demand for said currency, since the state controls and observes demand there would be no hyperinflation to deal with.

You need a system to distribute currency, and you need industry that can provides jobs as well as goods and services, and thats all you need. A living wage is the only incentive the average man needs, and with experience and seniority he can have a comfortable retirement, anything else is inconsequential.
User avatar #70018 to #70016 - whatley (09/27/2014) [-]
It's tautological, it's what you're saying. There will be an increase in costs as you will raise the wages of the workers, therefore increasing the cost. Any profit not used in future investment after paying for all costs is by definition inefficient, as it will not cause the greatest long run efficiency.
Exactly "Proper management". This is where the diseconomies of scales I mentioned kicks in. Managing government owned industries usually results in improper management as they are so large you cannot micromanage things to be efficient, and you still have the problem of no competition and threat to nationalised firms.

What you're talking about is called the monetarist theory of inflation, where MV=PT, where M=money supply, V=velocity of money (How quickly money is spent), P is the price level, and T is the index or real expenditures (This one varies slightly based on your sources but the principle is the same. And you're correct in saying that control of the money supply means that inflation will not rise due to that, but the increase in wages and more balanced distribution of income means V will increase, causing inflation.

Yes, like I said, your system would work and people will generally be fine in a given timeframe, however you don't progress much, you don't grow. It's evident by your dismissal of anything else being inconsequential that that's the only timeframe you're concerned with. This is not economically viable in the long run.
User avatar #70004 to #70001 - alimais (09/27/2014) [-]
Also throwing all kinds of Cultures on one place mostly diverts the people because every culture has their special stuff the other culture doesn't have.

Also you can see on the current ISIS crisis what "unregulated" immigration has brought the Western world.

I have seen enough Jihadists on Facebook speaking my language and making threats to people and a Turkish mate of mine had experience how one of his relatives got "brainwashed" in a Moshe in Vienna and went to Syria

I like my Turkish friend he's a Linux ace, hates Wahabbi and makes a lot of anti-jew jokes but it's sad that I can't enjoy a beer with him duo cultural differences.
User avatar #69988 to #69986 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
That's fine with me, the second part not your opinion.
User avatar #69979 to #69977 - leadstriker (09/27/2014) [-]
#69975 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
canada.isidewith.com/political-quiz Really good test for Canadians kinda embarrassed about the NDP part.
#70002 to #69975 - feelythefeel (09/27/2014) [-]
>that Bloc Quebeshit stat
I'll take it with a grain of salt.
User avatar #70006 to #70002 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N D FUCKING P
You have lost almost all respect from me. No joke.
User avatar #70020 to #70006 - feelythefeel (09/27/2014) [-]
This test s crap.
User avatar #70021 to #70020 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
Who would you actually vote for then?
User avatar #70024 to #70021 - feelythefeel (09/27/2014) [-]
I'm not sure, still deciding. But probably not NDP. Apparently they fucked up my province in my parent's time. Maybe Green? Probably not that either, too libby for me.
User avatar #70026 to #70024 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
Conserv or your a fagget. End of Story, they're left enough on social issues (gay marriage, ect, what libs in america cry so hard for) which should be gud enough4u.
User avatar #70027 to #70026 - feelythefeel (09/27/2014) [-]
Harper's a fucking fraud, and it probably wasn't even his idea to be.
User avatar #70129 to #70029 - feelythefeel (09/29/2014) [-]
He's been the center of a shitload of controversies, especially recently.
User avatar #70131 to #70129 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/29/2014) [-]
Again, please explain. I don't see it.
#69994 to #69975 - jadewest (09/27/2014) [-]
aussie one here
User avatar #69995 to #69994 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
That sounds so leftist... pathetic
User avatar #69998 to #69995 - jadewest (09/27/2014) [-]
kinda, but I don't agree with some of the things most leftists believe in
#69993 to #69975 - mixednuts (09/27/2014) [-]
Odd, I can't stand most Green Party members that I've met.

Is the Justice Party on here?
User avatar #69996 to #69993 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
ewwwww digusting
User avatar #69989 to #69975 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/27/2014) [-]
feelythefeel teoberry
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