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#738 - spauldeagle
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Or you could be reasonable and say that the flood never ******* happened. At no point in human history have we been selected down to one dude. 90% of the stories in the Old Testament are *********. If you want to understand religion, let go of the Old Testament, as half of the entire thing is just a list of laws to guide a primitive civilization, the Jews (5000-2000 years ago). Our modern civilization is so much more advanced than the barbarian tribes of the BCs. The New Testament has some good **** though, its just misinterpreted by confused, power hungry asses with tiny dicks. If you have any respect for what Ghandi had to say, you'd realize that Jesus said the same thing too.   
   
TL;DR   
Old Testament is gay, New Testament is totally cool   
gif is completely unrelated, I used it to attract your attention.
Or you could be reasonable and say that the flood never ******* happened. At no point in human history have we been selected down to one dude. 90% of the stories in the Old Testament are *********. If you want to understand religion, let go of the Old Testament, as half of the entire thing is just a list of laws to guide a primitive civilization, the Jews (5000-2000 years ago). Our modern civilization is so much more advanced than the barbarian tribes of the BCs. The New Testament has some good **** though, its just misinterpreted by confused, power hungry asses with tiny dicks. If you have any respect for what Ghandi had to say, you'd realize that Jesus said the same thing too.

TL;DR
Old Testament is gay, New Testament is totally cool
gif is completely unrelated, I used it to attract your attention.
#756 to #738 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
It wasn't just him on the boat as I recall. Please actually read the Old Testament and make sure you understood it correctly before stating your opinion on it.
#794 to #756 - spauldeagle
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I understand your criticism, but i was making the connection that Noah was the father of the the three sons (shem, ham, and japheth), who fathered the rest of humanity. Believe me, I have read the ****** Bible. I'm currently graduating from a Jesuit high school. Couldn't have made it this far without actually opening a Bible.

Correction: At no point in human history have we been selected down to one man's lineage.
#765 to #756 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Correct. It wasn't just Noah.

Noah was accompanied on the ark with his wife and their three sons and their wives.
#737 - noobybooby
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(05/22/2012) [-]
thumbing down all the comments like a boss.

9gag 4 life
#747 to #737 - onetwothreeawfuck
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Hey mate!  Welcome to Funnjunk.  I'm really glad you made it!  I'd really appreciate if you didn't thumb down every comment.  We usually just thumb down the ones that aren't funny, but hey, who am I to tell someone else how to go about their business!  Cheers!  Maybe later we could all go out for some frosty milkshakes and talk about the internet!  Bye bye!  Have a great day!
Hey mate! Welcome to Funnjunk. I'm really glad you made it! I'd really appreciate if you didn't thumb down every comment. We usually just thumb down the ones that aren't funny, but hey, who am I to tell someone else how to go about their business! Cheers! Maybe later we could all go out for some frosty milkshakes and talk about the internet! Bye bye! Have a great day!
#730 - gcgporn
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(05/22/2012) [-]
**gcgporn rolled a random image posted in comment #27 at Lesbian Protest ** <---- OP
#726 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
There was a flood ~8000 years ago on the shores of the black sea as it rose, displacing thousands. Gods flood was the explanation for the event.
#745 to #726 - galkawhm
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(05/22/2012) [-]
But earth is only 6000 years old
#698 - vanoreo
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Just saying, almost all of the book of Genesis is 100% fiction.
>Adam and Eve

Source: Scripture student
#700 to #698 - lolfire
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(05/22/2012) [-]
From what I've gathered Genesis (And the bible as a whole) is NOT supposed to be taken literally. It's all metaphors and symbol on how to live a good life...

Think something got lost in translation..
#706 to #700 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
The whole Bible was written by a bunch of power hungry monks that made up 90% of it and edited all of the other documents to fit into their "all powerful" god theme so people would follow them to gain power, fame, and money
#703 to #700 - vanoreo
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Need to know:
Social system
Literary form
Author's intent
#708 to #703 - lolfire
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(05/22/2012) [-]
And you can't ignore the facts that the stories and references match up perfectly with the movement of stars and planets, which back in those days, was the **** to the human race..
#664 - zhooker
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I hate religion/anti-religion posts
I hate religion/anti-religion posts
#661 - zhooker
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(05/22/2012) [-]
#576 - superjezuz
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(05/22/2012) [-]
you guys are forgetting Hitler isnt that bad... i mean he killed Hitler
#632 to #576 - devryn
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(05/22/2012) [-]
yeah but he also killed the guy who killed hitler
#431 - guto
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(05/22/2012) [-]
#377 - forsakensaint
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Also if there would be a god (Witch i don't personally believe), it would be the one who created Hitler... = God once again would be the one responsible...
#441 to #377 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Oh come off it, near all major faiths teach us that God or some higher power granted us reason and importantly free will. A God that intervenes is ultimately going to be a god guilty of favouritism. Mankind has reason, through reason we can solve near all the problems we face; Hitler acheived power because many, many people surrendered their reason.

It's fine that you disbelieve in God, but come on, you can do better than that.
#453 to #441 - forsakensaint
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Yeah, but if he/she is almigthy, then it would already know everything about everything, including that who will not believe in him and what anyone, everywhere will do, will not do.

So, he/she is not giving us any change at all because he/she already knows what we will do with our whole life right from the start.
#458 to #453 - nscott
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(05/22/2012) [-]
It's still free will, he just knows everything.
#466 to #458 - forsakensaint
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(05/22/2012) [-]
So basicly the free will does not matter? Because if he/she is the creator of all, witch is us including, he/she would know (before we even exist) all and everythig we will ever do/know/believe and yet he let's us born... Now tell me, why the F would that make any sense at all?
#550 to #466 - nscott
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(05/22/2012) [-]
The definition of free-will is free and independent choice; voluntary decision, so are you making choices and no one is forcing you to make them? Then you have free-will and everything you do affects everything else so I think free-will matters.
#244 - auesis
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(05/22/2012) [-]
#226 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
hows about act of nature kills millions, and Hitler even though he had millions of followers was a complete douchebag? God doesn't play a part here.
#241 to #226 - elektra
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Nature? isn't it god's creation according to creationist ?
#233 to #226 - Blasphemer
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(05/22/2012) [-]
No, because when good stuff happens, it's god. When **** happens god goes: wasntme.jpg
#143 - kitsunemochalite
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I didn't come here to be rustled
I came here to laugh
#180 to #143 - trimageryan
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I agree Ofdensen
#791 to #180 - kitsunemochalite
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Toki is not understanding why he didn't get invited to Jimmy Rustles Tuesday
#821 to #791 - trimageryan
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(05/23/2012) [-]
Because I's says nos Toki, nots until yous answers the question "At which do you most can't the least?"
#822 to #821 - kitsunemochalite
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(05/23/2012) [-]
Buts Skwisgaar I brought candies! And by candies I mean chickens! I justs want to be includes!
#823 to #822 - trimageryan
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(05/23/2012) [-]
Will someone please just let Toki be apart of your Jimmy....Rustling....thing?
He won't sleep tonight if you don't.
#824 to #823 - kitsunemochalite
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(05/23/2012) [-]
Hims is just being a baby to get hims ways!
#136 - joshthepoet
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Sorry, but this is completely wrong. God caused the flood to happen because people were explicitly sinning and following false prophets pretty much for the sole purpose of pissing off God. Well it worked.
Hitler used the Jewish as a scapegoat for all of Germany's problems, and wanted to create the "perfect Germany." God never wanted a perfect world, he knows that we can't be perfect. Sin breaks God's heart over and over again. It also broke his heart to cause the flood. He made a pact with Noah to never flood the earth again. Then there is Jesus.
God knew that the people were doing everything wrong, so he put on skin as Jesus for 33 years, walked the earth to try and teach people how to live, and then suffered the punishment he was given including the crucifix to take the punishment our sin deserves, because we cannot get to heaven on our own.

I usually don't post on Religious pictures, because the entire atheism/ christianity debate is absolutely retarded. It's like Gandalf meets the black knight. It ends off in the standstill that no one can PROOVE their way against the other. But this one particularly pissed me off, even the thought of you comparing God to someone like Hitler is just you being a jackass. But I forgive you, and I'll be praying for you that perhaps some day you change the way you think.
#216 to #136 - draezeth
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(05/22/2012) [-]
God also had Noah warn them beforehand. In fact, he warned this victims every time before they were killed.
#140 to #136 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
you got reeled in
#142 to #136 - erethilful
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Mfw your post.. Still after thousand years of fighting about this ****, no real proof have been found that God would have existed.. But Hitler was alive, and there's proof.. Yet Hitler tried to make humans perfect ( in his own way, which is unacceptable ).. Used jews on experiments to cure diseases, tried dna manipulation ( which kinda failed because.. well you know, he tried to change eye colors kinda wrong way ) etc etc.   
   
Imo Hitler still tried to make human world better place.. With his own little plan which sucked ass, but still tried.
Mfw your post.. Still after thousand years of fighting about this ****, no real proof have been found that God would have existed.. But Hitler was alive, and there's proof.. Yet Hitler tried to make humans perfect ( in his own way, which is unacceptable ).. Used jews on experiments to cure diseases, tried dna manipulation ( which kinda failed because.. well you know, he tried to change eye colors kinda wrong way ) etc etc.

Imo Hitler still tried to make human world better place.. With his own little plan which sucked ass, but still tried.
#156 to #142 - drewsky
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Hitler was still just using the Jews as scapegoats lol. He just gave the people a reason to hate someone for no reason.
#163 to #156 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Yea, right.... You probable don't believe in the Holocaust either do you?
#190 to #163 - drewsky
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I personally went to Auschwitz and met a Holocaust survivor on my school trip to Germany.
#230 to #136 - hebs
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(05/22/2012) [-]
the most aggravating thing a religious person can say to an atheist is "i will pray for you"
#468 to #230 - draezeth
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(05/22/2012) [-]
"I'll pray for you" is Christian for "I care about you and don't want you to suffer."

Getting aggravated about that is like a Christian getting aggravated by a religious post on FJ that was solely intended for humor.
#855 to #468 - hebs
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(05/25/2012) [-]
that's why
#856 to #855 - draezeth
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(05/25/2012) [-]
Well, it's not my motivation.

...

Although sometimes seeing some of them squirm is satisfying.
#857 to #856 - hebs
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(05/25/2012) [-]
well that not very nice
#858 to #857 - draezeth
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(05/27/2012) [-]
It's only satisfying if they're mean.
#122 - anon
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(05/22/2012) [-]
You forgot to add that there is no possible way for the whole Earth to flood and drown everyone. It's scientifically impossible.
#126 to #122 - stargate
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(05/22/2012) [-]
1.What about the ice caps melting and people thinking it was so strange it had to be supernatural.
2.Also the bible has a lot of stories that aren't supposed to be taken literally.
3.Other religions state that there was a HUGE flood (not just Christianity) that cleansed the earth, so there probably was some monster flood that scared our ancestors.
#132 to #126 - gggeee
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(05/22/2012) [-]
1. because early post cave men were ******* dumb-asses when it came to nature
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2. the bible was written to be taken beyond literally and to strike fear into the "non believers"

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3. either the Dead or Red sea (one of those near Europe) did flood and the inhabitants freaked the **** out, the reasons it was written in other religions was because many of the tribes back then lived around those bodies of water and spread the stories. like you said monster flood, scared ancestors ********.

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#799 to #132 - stargate
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Th bible wasn't written to be taken literally, the bible is a fictional reference made up to show people how to live their lives.
#106 - combatgummybear
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(05/22/2012) [-]
&lt; What goes on in the comments in every religion post.
< What goes on in the comments in every religion post.
#69 - kibbleis
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(05/22/2012) [-]
#89 to #69 - theexo
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Jack Spicer, i challenge you to a Xiaolin Shodown! Your Fist of Tebigong against my Shrowd of Shadows! first to stop these religous posts wins! GONG YI TEMPI!
#223 to #89 - draezeth
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(05/22/2012) [-]
This one could last a while...
#83 to #69 - xOXAnimosityXOx
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I wager the sword of the storms then!
#643 - darthtomale
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I think the point is that an infinitely intelligent god has the evidence on which to base his judgement. While hitler was just an anti-semite. I mean, i still don't believe in god, but you know an argument is being driven into the ground if you have to go into hitler territory.
#282 - lolzordz
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(05/22/2012) [-]
wow... that was really immature..

goes to show what kind of noobs go on FJ nowadays
#286 to #282 - ThunderChunderFrom
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(05/22/2012) [-]
I really hate the term "noob".
#385 to #286 - lolzordz
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(05/22/2012) [-]
is it because you are one? lol jk.. whats a better term then?
#1 - TheFixer
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(05/21/2012) [-]
that was also God when he was younger (the old testament tends to show his wrath)
#3 to #1 - anon
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(05/21/2012) [-]
**anonymous rolled a random image posted in comment #246 at 4chan **
YOUNGER? are you RETARDED????
god doesn't age or change personality, the reason he's nicer in the new testament is because it was written by humans...
#4 to #3 - TheFixer
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(05/21/2012) [-]
he doesnt age because he is immortal, but funny thing about immortality you still get years added to you. for example if i was immortal and lets say its 1000 years later than i would be 1020 years old, now my outward appearance wouldnt have changed because i am immortal but i would still be 1020 years old.
#10 to #4 - draezeth
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(05/21/2012) [-]
The concept of time wouldn't apply to God, since he created it. I think the Bible also says he's omnipresent in a wibbly wobbly timey wimey kinda way. Kinda like time was a string and he could be on any part of it at any time/constantly.
#104 to #10 - hebs
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#113 to #10 - TheFixer
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(05/22/2012) [-]
okay let me re-phrase this to clarify some points. immortals are not affected by time but are still in time like with my example above say i spontainiously become immortal, and 1000 years from now im 1020 years old, now i physically havent aged a day but ive still been around for that amount of time thus giving me the total age of 1020 years old. the same thing could be said of God, he is an immortal being so he wouldnt age from the point of time where he became immortal. i am of course assuming that the immortality that we are talking about is the one where you are in a biological stasis and have rapid healing abilities, so you dont age outwardly and you dont sustain injury. now what i am saying is that God from our perspective of time was younger in the old testament then he was in the new testament. and this idea of our perspective vs his perspective leads me to my next point. God created the earth and heavens in 7 days from his perspective not ours, 7 of our days would seem like a nanosecond to God.
*this next bit is just a little extra that i have come to understand and feel like sharing*
our view of time is painfully narrowed, all time happens at once, our past is still there happening right along side us. also at almost every event in existance there is a fracture point, at this point multiple timelines are created that detail every possible outcome of the event and they are all happening right along the timeline we percieve to be ours and the same rule applies for those timelines as well (all time happens at once and almost every event creates tangent timelines). like say for instance you go and buy a lottery ticket well as soon as you start filling out the numbers on it alternate timelines appear right along side that one and one of those time line will win the lottery but it might not be the one that you are currently percieving.
#13 to #10 - tbhp
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(05/21/2012) [-]
So you are saying that god is not bound by the laws of time, and he can basicly travel to any time given?
So he could foresee this event but choose not to stop it?
#14 to #13 - draezeth
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(05/21/2012) [-]
Yeah. I'm not in the mood for another debate right now, though, so that's all you're getting out of me.
#15 to #14 - tbhp
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(05/21/2012) [-]
Too hard for you to understand logic, no worries.
#19 to #15 - draezeth
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(05/21/2012) [-]
You want logic? Just look at my comment history. Pretty sure the answers to all your questions will be in there somewhere. Don't act superior just because you're an atheist.
#22 to #19 - tbhp
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(05/21/2012) [-]
Ya, you rage and lock me into "the atheist guys group"

No, honestly you drop out of debating the seccond i prove your dumbfound argument of time beeing a "wibbly wobbley timey kinda way" wrong.

You dont have logic.
#23 to #22 - draezeth
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(05/21/2012) [-]
Oh wow, you thumbed down all my comments after I thumbed down one of yours because you were being a dick. You must be so mature. I'm no match for your superior debating skills.

Well, you'd be the first anti-Christian dick on this site that I've debated with to not be an atheist.

Seriously, GTFO. Go laugh at cats or something. If not, fine, I'll let you delude yourself with the idea you actually won a debate.
#25 to #23 - tbhp
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(05/21/2012) [-]
Keep going, il be the superior one and thumb you up. please do actually try and answer now.
#27 to #25 - draezeth
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(05/21/2012) [-]
I thumbed you down because you were being a dick, no other reason. It is good to thumb a person up when they present a good argument, though, and I practice doing that even when my opponent disagrees with my views.

Fine, I'll answer your question, but you could have found it if you had looked in my comment history.

There are two answers to that question:
1. God chooses not to interfere with man openly because it would take no faith to believe in him, and people would convert merely out of fear of Hell, which isn't what he wants.
2. God doesn't control the actions of people because that would be removing their free will.

As I said in my other post, I've been debating practically nonstop the last 3 days (except for a break this afternoon), and I've grown really tired of it, so I want to cut off the debate here. If you're determined to keep debating, add me as a friend or something and I'll contact you when I'm in the mood.
#115 to #27 - TheFixer
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(05/22/2012) [-]
now see free will is the biggest illusion of them all.
all time happens at once and each time there is an event or a "choice" alternate timelines form along side the one we are currently percieving. in these alternate timelines every possible permuation of the out come of that event or "choice" occurs and those other timeline also follow the same rules (all time happens at once and every event or "choice" creates timeline that show all possible outcomes) now knowing this, if we take a step back and view this constantly then we gain knowledge of everything. note i am not trying to disprove God or start anything here i am mearly presenting what it would be like to view time and free will from an omnipitant (or God-like) stance.
#208 to #115 - draezeth
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(05/22/2012) [-]
That's all theoretical. We only have one experiment as evidence for alternate universes, and even that only suggested alternate futures on an subatomic level.
#687 to #208 - TheFixer
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(05/22/2012) [-]
true but you cant deny that its a pretty good theory to explain how God can be omnipotent (all knowing)
#704 to #687 - draezeth
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(05/22/2012) [-]
Haha, I see what you mean.
#29 to #27 - tbhp
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(05/21/2012) [-]
allright, no more debating.

I generally just get upset when people thumb me down when im speaking my own opinions, and name calling is a very esay way to get my point across.
#91 to #29 - theexo
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(05/22/2012) [-]
it's funny. cause you're and idiot
#30 to #29 - draezeth
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(05/21/2012) [-]
"Too hard for you to understand logic, no worries."

I wouldn't call that an opinion.
#5 to #4 - hertogrick
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(05/21/2012) [-]
Dude, the new testament was written because the old one was to hardcore.
#6 to #5 - xxbrunostxx
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(05/21/2012) [-]
ya'll dnt knw wat u be talkin 'bout! that ***** god aint real dawg! he be lettin ppl die an ****!