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User avatar #1683 - zimork (05/04/2012) [-]
A good lot of you people should read this article
http://www.danoah.(c)om/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
without the "( )".
Alot of you will open your eyes reading it.
User avatar #1800 to #1781 - zimork (05/04/2012) [-]
Hey troll
#1802 to #1800 - kevinjr (05/04/2012) [-]
sup
#1784 to #1683 - kevinjr (05/04/2012) [-]
Just kidding. It actually was a really nice article.
User avatar #1493 - joekooldash (05/04/2012) [-]
i see a demon furby in the center, anyone else?
User avatar #1449 - amsel (05/04/2012) [-]
>apologize for being human

Personally, I'd rather not get involved in this debate 99% of the time because I couldn't care less, but I'm pretty sure you've got that part a little backwards. Most mainstream scientists agree that we are destroying the planet and that life as a whole would probably be better of with humanity. Meanwhile, most mainstream religions see humanity as the perfect creation of God 3000ish years ago, whom the planet was made for and everything revolves around.

idk, I've heard more scientific arguments for humanity being evil than religious arguments by far.
#1500 to #1449 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
>dosen't want to get involved
>gets involved
#1328 - bipolarfurry (05/04/2012) [-]
here comes a 			*********		 of religious/creation of the universe posts...
here comes a ********* of religious/creation of the universe posts...
#1294 - hellood (05/04/2012) [-]
people are gonna start ragging so......
people are gonna start ragging so......
#1270 - xxvinnehxx (05/04/2012) [-]
even if dont believe in God, or believe all Christians are pansies, its clear that many Christians were incredibly badass.
St. Bartholomew
St. Ignatius of Loyola
St. Sebastian
Mother Theresa
and many others
Pic VERY related

#1280 to #1270 - meanmrhyde (05/04/2012) [-]
don't know about the other ones, but mother theresa was NOT badass. she was a horrible person
User avatar #1288 to #1280 - xxvinnehxx (05/04/2012) [-]
and by badass, I dont just mean *********** , but her level of devotion was pretty badass
User avatar #1285 to #1280 - xxvinnehxx (05/04/2012) [-]
how so? She cared for many people that were in need of care. Can you explain please?
#1291 to #1285 - meanmrhyde (05/04/2012) [-]
she made the people she 'cared for' live in squalor because she believed suffering puts people close to god. any money she got from donations was used to open more clinics like that, not to improve the indian peoples' lives
User avatar #1324 to #1291 - xxvinnehxx (05/04/2012) [-]
i wouldnt completely judge her as horrible for that, yes it was a bad thing, but it wasnt for a bad reason. I didnt completely agree with that part of her work either.
#1330 to #1324 - meanmrhyde (05/04/2012) [-]
ok so what did she do that was good?
#1355 to #1330 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
i have no idea what you're talking about and have never even heard of the beliefs you are saying she had, she spent all her money making school, clinics and soup kitchens in a country of dirt poor people, that's hardly poverty she forced on them

User avatar #1340 to #1330 - xxvinnehxx (05/04/2012) [-]
she made orphanages for chidren in Calcutta, and she respected the human life. Instead of these sick people dying in the street without any consideration, she gave them a place to come to for care, even though she couldnt get doctors or advanced medicine to cure them.
#1352 to #1340 - meanmrhyde (05/04/2012) [-]
did you read my post? yes being in an orphanage is better than being in the streets, but she used none of the loads of donation money to improve the orphanages.
User avatar #1186 - blakjack (05/04/2012) [-]
********* BELOW
#1157 - LewdFlapjack (05/04/2012) [-]
What i don't get is that Christians are always seen as intolerant assholes, but I've known far more Christians in my life than atheists, but i know more atheists willing to personally attack you based on what you believe. Some Atheists i know say people are weak for relying on religion to give life meaning, but if your only goal is to take away something that gives them meaning, you're a sadist. Why would you want to take away something they rely on to get through life? I relied heavily on Christianity in the hardest time of my life and it got me through. Now I'm older and wiser and i don;t need religion anymore, but why in the flying **** would you feel so insignificant that you need to take away people's reasons for their significance.

I'm agnostic, and from my experience, I am far more likely to be personally attacked for my beliefs by an atheist than a religious person. Grow up, people.

<--pic related, every single religion vs atheist debate ive ever seen or been a part of
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#1261 to #1157 - meanmrhyde (05/04/2012) [-]
i simply don't like seeing people so deluded. it's sad. it really is a form of brainwashing
#870 - xrobinxx (05/03/2012) [-]
I wonder why after I read this I think of Them....Is it just me?
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#941 to #892 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
Is this highschool of the dead?
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#901 to #892 - xrobinxx (05/03/2012) [-]
The Big Bang Theory -.-
The Big Bang Theory -.-
#842 - KingCrimson (05/03/2012) [-]
mfw I see a dick in space.
#763 - butsecks **User deleted account** (05/03/2012) [-]
ye-nope.
ye-nope.
#686 - redclover (05/03/2012) [-]
Religion: You must donate your money to the church as a sacrifice to get into heaven. Maybe.
Science: You must help fund our experiment so we can tell you how things work. Maybe.

Either way, someone wants my money.
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#733 to #686 - ihateducksauce (05/03/2012) [-]
the money isn't a sacrifice to get into heaven, or at least it's not supposed to, there are people who would use that as an excuse though. People like that are the ones who give us a bad name along with a few other mention-able names.
#713 to #642 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
So if someone were to come up to me and tell me that God isn't real, that our universe, and indeed our very conciousnous has sprung up out of nowhere, and for no reason, then i can dismiss them for having no definitive proof. Atheists believe those who r religious r stupid for trusting in something without any hard evidence. Yet they themselves trust in their supposed knowledge with no real pointing to th absence of God. I believe in the big bang theory, and evolution, i also believe in God. So tell me, y is there no God?
#734 to #713 - traveltech (05/03/2012) [-]
I didn't say there was no god, I just have no reason to accept a random, pointless claim that there is one. If somebody told you that there are leprechauns living on a planet a million light-years from here, they're not right just because you can't prove them wrong.
#1576 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
Why do you continue to bully christianity? We didn't do anything to you, the overwhelming majority of us don't shove it down your throat, and we would like to be respected as we respect you. The ONLY thing christianity requires a christian to do is to accept Jesus Christ into their heart and to ask for forgiveness for your sins.

User avatar #1581 to #1576 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
because trolling is so easy? 'sides, why does christianity have to be the only religion being attacked here? Everything isn't always about you :D
#1586 to #1581 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
Normally I would agree with you, but the way you tacked a :D on the end really pissed me off.
User avatar #1596 to #1586 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
Because my comment wasn't cheaky enough without the :D? xP
User avatar #1582 to #1576 - Daemonseed (05/04/2012) [-]
Who mentioned Christianity?
User avatar #1635 to #1582 - thepalmtoptiger (05/04/2012) [-]
Actually they mentioned waking up early Sunday morning which suggests that they're talking about some form (or all forms) of Christianity. Muslims have Friday, Jews have Saturday, and Christians have Sunday as their day of worship/relaxation.
User avatar #1642 to #1635 - Daemonseed (05/04/2012) [-]
Actually, touché to you. It took me a minute to realize that the picture mentioned one of the Sabbath days. My apologies for overlooking that, and wasting your time.
User avatar #1597 to #1582 - Daemonseed (05/04/2012) [-]
Also, somebody doesn't know their own faith, apparently...
User avatar #1595 to #1576 - epicurious (05/04/2012) [-]
So... apologize for crimes committed by ancestors... deny scientific belief... bully homosexuals, nonbelievers, witches, pagans, women, children (If you're of the clergy), and grovel at the feet of a deity much in need of antidepressants who has in the old testament of the holy book slaughtered thousands of innocent men, women, children and infants, but expects us to feel sorry for telling a girl that a shirt doesn't make her look fat when it does (lying)? Riiiight... >.>
User avatar #1602 to #1595 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
I'm not shoving it down your throat, so you don't have to apologize for anything. You aren't making me mad.
User avatar #1607 to #1602 - epicurious (05/04/2012) [-]
Oh, didn't mean that as an attack against you as a person, just the thing you believe in :P (There's a difference I think... Don't take that in a hateful way lol)
User avatar #1659 to #1576 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
By the way I am not thumbing down your replies to my comments, I respect your opinions.
User avatar #1587 to #1576 - thepalmtoptiger (05/04/2012) [-]
Well there's that thing about religion being used throughout history to oppress and control people for millenniums. It's not so much a problem with Christianity as it is a problem with organized religion as a whole. I won't tell you that your beliefs are wrong or anything though.

Normally I won't go up to religious types and spit in their faces but when asked why atheists have a problem with religions I feel I should explain in order to (maybe?) reach a mutual understanding.
User avatar #1598 to #1587 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
religion is misused by bad people... so you conclude that religion is bad... k...
User avatar #1611 to #1598 - thepalmtoptiger (05/04/2012) [-]
Religion is created by bad people. If you look at greek, egyptian, roman, japanese, chinese, mythology what is the primary difference between them and modern religions? The only one (other than the fact that most modern religions are monotheistic) is that those died out a while ago. Religion serves 2 purposed: to explain the unknown, and to control lesser minds.
User avatar #1629 to #1611 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
Yes... and? If there was a book that tried to teach morals to people en masse who otherwise would have none... who the hell cares who wrote it... it's a good book! It can be misused... but the book never said "THOU SHALT KILL ALL WHO OPPOSE ME". Humans are just assholes and like to read between the lines where they shouldn't...
User avatar #1641 to #1629 - thepalmtoptiger (05/04/2012) [-]
Never said to kill all who have different views? Riiiiight.

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


User avatar #1673 to #1641 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
What you neglect to mention is the rabbinical process of giving the death penalty.

A lot of these came from the Written Bible of Judaism. There is also an Oral Bible, the Talmud. In the Talmud it stipulates what is required to be met before a death penalty can be given.
1) You must sin in front of two witnesses
2) They must warn you that if you sin you will receive the death penalty
3) You must say "I will die for this sin".

Then all these things must be confirmed in a trial. The death penalty was rarely ever given and if a court gave one it would be called a killing court for 70 years.

Also, these are all commandments to the Jews... There are only 7 laws for the other nations of the world. Don't murder, don't steal, don't commit bestiality, set up courts, don't cut the limbs off of live animals, don't curse god, and don't worship idols.

Also if those laws are broken its not the Jewish court that gives the punishment it's Noahide courts that do it. So Secular law, not religious law governs those 7 principles.

It's easy to read a line of text and say "LOOK LOOK IT'S EEEEEEEEEEVIL" you need to take a second and wonder... how the heck did this religion survive if all this **** got you killed? You'll be surprised by what you find.
User avatar #1700 to #1673 - thepalmtoptiger (05/04/2012) [-]
I'm not saying that it's actually practiced, I'm saying that it was/ is in the holy scripture. Also, I would like to point out that the quotes I put were in the bible where as the talmud is not a part of christianity.
User avatar #1715 to #1700 - Sethorein ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
Well I'm not christian, I can't argue on christianity's behalf xP

I see your point... but still... just wanted to letcha know that there was never a religious endorsement of wanton killing. Only a human endorsement in the name of religion


User avatar #1643 to #1629 - thepalmtoptiger (05/04/2012) [-]
There were more, I just reached the character cap.
User avatar #1617 to #1576 - Gantrhythor (05/04/2012) [-]
Christians enslaved and persecuted my people for about 3000 years to today, just because we decided to stick to old beliefs and traditions, and that is one hell of a reason to hate monotheistic scum.
User avatar #1601 to #1576 - eight (05/04/2012) [-]
But, Christians don't respect or accept other religions. How hypocritical is that? There religion has about as much credibility as Christianity. They believe they follow the correct god. They live for others and the betterment of the body and soul. But apparently they are evil...
User avatar #1614 to #1601 - itsjustmeinca (05/04/2012) [-]
no thats crazy christians
User avatar #1618 to #1614 - eight (05/04/2012) [-]
I am surrounded by them then...I left my church because I got fed up with the lack of respect and acknowledgement of other religions and that we could just as easily be following the infamous "wrong path" so talked about in the Bible.
User avatar #1624 to #1618 - itsjustmeinca (05/04/2012) [-]
see thats just some tho i had to leave my church because there was cocaine in the walls and my pastor was selling it.
User avatar #1633 to #1624 - eight (05/04/2012) [-]
I have a bible thumping father who obssesses over the bible. He is losing his house and refuses to do anything about it..."if God wants me to stay, he will let me stay." When I try to explain to him "God helps you help yourself. He won't do the work for you, you have to do the labor, he will give you the power." It turns into a huge debate. Then he tells me I am unholy, and I am evil, that I am not a christian who believes in God because I don't go to church.!!! OMG.

Cocaine though? That is a no good pastor.
User avatar #1645 to #1633 - itsjustmeinca (05/04/2012) [-]
wow that sound terrible i rarely went to church as a child but everyone in my family did and i had to go all the time as a teen when i was at my grandparents house being forced to pray and everything. but never got told i was unholy or evil. ive never even read the bible to be honest.

hope everything works out with you're dad :)
User avatar #1651 to #1645 - eight (05/04/2012) [-]
lol it won't...I am either going to kill him, or simply not speak to him again. I would rather not tarnish my soul though. Honor thy father only applies when the father deserves it after all or at least in my opinion. Good luck with coke head priest.
#1639 to #1576 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
If you belonged to a political party or a social club that was tied to as much bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, violence and sheer ignorance as religion is, you'd resign in protest. To do otherwise is to be an enabler, a Mafia wife, with the true devils of extremism that draw their legitimacy from the billions of their fellow travelers. lf the world does come to an end here or wherever, or if it limps into the future, decimated by the effects of a religion-inspired nuclear terrorism, let's remember what the real problem was: That we learned how to precipitate mass death before we got past the neurological disorder of wishing for it. That's it. Grow up or die.
User avatar #1652 to #1639 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
And you think I'm full of hate and destruction, that most christians today are full of hate and destruction? Maybe Kony and his lapdogs, but that's ABOUT it.
#1675 to #1652 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
I never said Christians I was referring to ALL RELIGION and ALL the problems it has caused.
User avatar #1681 to #1675 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
The only thing causing this problem is SOME people's take on their religion.
User avatar #1695 to #1681 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
"Proof #24 - Ask why religion causes so many problems

If God were to exist, wouldn't you expect there to be a huge benefit to those who follow and obey him? Why, instead, do we see the opposite?

For example, there is growing evidence that the delusion of religion causes significant social dysfunction. Statistical research is revealing the problems that go with religion. For example, a recent article in the Journal of Religion and Society points out that religion is correlated to the significant social difficulties that we can see in America:

In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy, and abortion in the prosperous democracies . The most theistic prosperous democracy, the U.S., is exceptional, but not in the manner Franklin predicted. The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the developed democracies, sometimes spectacularly so, and almost always scores poorly. The view of the U.S. as a “shining city on the hill” to the rest of the world is falsified when it comes to basic measures of societal health."
#1719 to #1695 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
Yes, because STD's, teen prego, homicide, and death are not caused by today's Deist society. (&quot;bitches and hoes&quot; rap music, readily available drugs, bad role models, etc...)
Yes, because STD's, teen prego, homicide, and death are not caused by today's Deist society. ("bitches and hoes" rap music, readily available drugs, bad role models, etc...)
#1739 to #1719 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

(pic related 16, kills herself because judge forced her to marry her RAPIST)
#1752 to #1739 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
The Jewish had a bunch of laws, one of them was to not have to sex until you were married, so if you did have sex with someone and you were both discovered together, you would have been forced to marry.   
He violated her because she was a virgin.   
nowhere does it say rape.   
a lot of people misinterpret the bible.   
this is also from the old testament, which is from the Torah.
The Jewish had a bunch of laws, one of them was to not have to sex until you were married, so if you did have sex with someone and you were both discovered together, you would have been forced to marry.
He violated her because she was a virgin.
nowhere does it say rape.
a lot of people misinterpret the bible.
this is also from the old testament, which is from the Torah.
User avatar #1764 to #1752 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
Well as for Death:
1562-1598 – French Wars of Religion – France – 4 million
1095-1291 – Crusades to the Holy Land – Middle East, Spain, Africa – 1.5 million (This does include all sides of the conflict)
1184-c. 1860 – Various Christian Inquisitions – Europe – 17,500
184-205 – Yellow Scarves Rebellion (Taoists) – China – 7 million
1300s-1521 – Human Sacrifices (Aztecs) – Mexico – 1 million
1855-1877 – Panthay Rebellion (Muslims) – China – 12 million
1971 – Bangladesh Atrocities (Islamists) – East Pakistan – 3 million
September 11, 2007 – Terrorist attacks (Muslim Jihadists) – USA – 5,000
#1772 to #1764 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
And still, the vast majority of people involved in religions today don't kill millions of &quot;infidels&quot;. Don't blame the religion, blame the people who misinterpret it.   
   
I don't dislike most athiests, because not all of them want christians and other religious people exterminated.
And still, the vast majority of people involved in religions today don't kill millions of "infidels". Don't blame the religion, blame the people who misinterpret it.

I don't dislike most athiests, because not all of them want christians and other religious people exterminated.
#1788 to #1772 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
Why is faith good? Why should we believe in something we have NO PROOF of.
Why is faith good? Why should we believe in something we have NO PROOF of.
#1789 to #1788 - doodogger (05/04/2012) [-]
I'm not telling you to, I am just telling you to respect those who do, because we respect the fact that you do not. (well most of us)
User avatar #1795 to #1789 - nougat (05/04/2012) [-]
Okay but why do you believe in something that, misguided or not, did lead to millions dead and more discriminated without proof?
#1386 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
Okay, here I will give you something then:

If you choose not to follow religion, you are stating that you believe that human existence is finite (i know, no duh). But choosing to believe in religion offers the hope of life beyond death. I acknowledge that there is a possibility that God doesn't exist, and that my religion is simply wishful thinking. Faith is believing that the unlikely is still possible. What is the point you might say? By choosing religion, you have a chance of a future existence. By choosing atheism, you choose only what you can confirm and what your given: A span of a lifetime. Why not choose religion when there is a hope of a future?

Also I would like to point out to the OP who posted the pic: The reason for dressing up is not from religion, but is a stupid rule that traditional churches use.

If you also want to trust in the guys in the lab coats, I have this to say as well: Many scientists believe in the big bang theory. However, the big bang theory is not something that can be confirmed. IT IS A THEORY (Theory=Speculation). It is what, one might say, a religion for scientists. Because they also believe in what they cannot prove. They teach about evolution in schools. But once again, it can't be proven. It has been observed that micro-evolution exists, but that is different. Micro evolution is the adaptation of a species to short term differences in the environment. Macro evolution involves the complete repurposing of a lifeforms chemistry over thousands of years. Sounds kinda like a religious claim. It's something you can't prove and must believe.

And simply believing the guys in the lab coats means you don't have a mind of your own. You don't take the time to consider the issue. What each choice means. What the consequences of each choice means. Go in depth to both beliefs, and find out what they claim.
User avatar #1421 to #1386 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
There someone goes mixing up the definitions of Hypothesis and Theory again.

Gravity is a theory. Does that make it a religion as well?
User avatar #1434 to #1421 - SemiAnon (05/04/2012) [-]
If you don't believe in it, Gravitron, the God of Gravitation, makes you fly off into space.

So, yes.
User avatar #1439 to #1434 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
The Flying Spaghetti Monster keeps me on the ground with his noodley appendages.
#1410 to #1386 - icedmantwo (05/04/2012) [-]
the number of times i get to post this
User avatar #1422 to #1410 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
fukkensaved.gif
User avatar #1430 to #1422 - icedmantwo (05/04/2012) [-]
i go a bunch of them if you want, as i got lazy after all my internet fights
#1444 to #1430 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
Please. I'll share mine as well.
#1452 to #1444 - icedmantwo (05/04/2012) [-]
for when they say all evil people are atheist right here
also +1 to hitler pics
#1469 to #1452 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
For when Christians think they are the oppressed minority.
For when Christians think they are the oppressed minority.
#1473 to #1469 - icedmantwo (05/04/2012) [-]
i think that statistics have changed since that was made, or that only counts america
did you know how the universe was made?
#1478 to #1473 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
Self explanatory here.
#1481 to #1478 - icedmantwo (05/04/2012) [-]
well science is all fake n stuff
#1483 to #1481 - galkawhm (05/04/2012) [-]
Jesus helps us all with trivial tasks.
#1222 - krazykorn (05/04/2012) [-]
Whoa really you're an atheist which makes you better than religious people because your information is backed by science which makes everything more logical and smarter than religious people?! Wow, please tell me more! This is the first post I've ever seen dissing religion!

I'm sorry I had to do this. This is just getting out of hand though. I'm going down with my post too.
User avatar #1228 to #1222 - KirbyFullyLoaded (05/04/2012) [-]
Your picture...thats not what Atheism is though. Atheism doesn't attempt to explain anything.
User avatar #1234 to #1228 - krazykorn (05/04/2012) [-]
I don't agree with the picture entirely. It's not fully implicated on the fact of what Atheism actually says happened at the start of the world. Nothing was a ball the size of the end of a pinkie finger that began to expand not explode that created gases and other particles to make complex organisms. I just don't see why that is so much more believable than ANY other religions theories other than Mormons and Scientologists.
User avatar #1238 to #1234 - KirbyFullyLoaded (05/04/2012) [-]
Once again, Atheists don't try to explain anything. Its more of a " **** Happens" approach or "We just don't know yet, why can't we just admit to not knowing all the answers?"
User avatar #1245 to #1238 - krazykorn (05/04/2012) [-]
Well I'm only a sophmore in Highschool and from every evolution section we do out of the 2 classes that have talked about it they explain before hand that this is where the Atheistic thought of the beginning of the world comes from.
User avatar #1301 to #1245 - KirbyFullyLoaded (05/04/2012) [-]
I too am a sophmore. Thats more of the current scientific thought, but even scientists can't be as bold to say "this is how it happened." Nobody can say that for sure.
User avatar #1254 to #1245 - superpoo ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
Its what atheists believe because it has the strongest evidence.
User avatar #1260 to #1254 - krazykorn (05/04/2012) [-]
Well see that's what I don't understand, some of it does make a lot of sense but some parts just make no sense to me. How did the first organisms learn to reproduce without some kind of instruction? How did they learn to use chemicals to do chemosynthesis without an earlier ancestor telling them how?
User avatar #1309 to #1260 - KirbyFullyLoaded (05/04/2012) [-]
The argument really isn't which argument is correct, its more of whose argument is more correct or sounds more correct based on evidence that we can observe with our senses and through technology that we have developed to enhance our senses.
User avatar #1297 to #1260 - superpoo ONLINE (05/04/2012) [-]
With the organisms its more instinct based it had no idea what it was or what it was doing it was just surviving. I'm not really sure what the last question is supposed to be.
#1058 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
Oh shut up. Seriously, stop acting so smug. IT TAKES NO TALENT, BRAINS, OR ANYTHING OF VALUE TO BE AN ATHEISTS. WHY ARE YOU SO PROUD OF SOMETHING SO INCONSEQUENTIAL?
#1063 to #1058 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
better question:
why u mad?
#1403 to #1058 - stigganigga (05/04/2012) [-]
I ******* hate it how Christians ALWAYS SHOVE THEIR RELIGION DOWN OTHER PEOPLE'S THROATS. Its ******* annoying.
User avatar #661 - edreva (05/03/2012) [-]
The problem is that christians are so retrogade that they think that we are so special in the universe. All these people should have gone to school to learn that we are nothing else than living matter. God is a product of our minds and the CREATOR of the life was the bacteria that was born pure randomly from elements like hydrogen, carbono, etc. You may life scared all your life but don't **** with me, ******* christ **** .
#677 to #661 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
where did hydrogen and [carbon] carbono come from?
User avatar #707 to #677 - roflkitteh (05/03/2012) [-]
A meteor impacted with earth before it could sustain life, on said meteor were elements, which brought water onto the planet
#688 to #677 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
The Big Bang.
#708 to #688 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
Do you even realize who invented the Big Bang theory? Google helps.
The big bang theory was even critized for being too close to how christians view how the world was created. Most scientists didn't accept the reason for this at first and this is also where the nickname "Big Bang"-theory comes from
User avatar #699 to #677 - edreva (05/03/2012) [-]
THAT'S A NICE QUESTION! There are some humans called scientists that have been working for centuries and studying to answer these questions and every century we have more answers. Religion only says that there's a ghost that created EEEEVERYYTHIIING and you must swallow it like a good boy.
#725 to #661 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
U c, ur not looking far enough back. I can believe that our physical bodies formed through a long line of chemical bonds, I just can't believe that those particles came from nothing.

User avatar #753 to #725 - roflkitteh (05/03/2012) [-]
Technically they didnt come from nothing, even though it seems odd, all life on the planet evolving from bacteria makes sense, after 4.5 billions years, its very possible that something so simple turned into something more complex.
#698 to #661 - SgtObvious (05/03/2012) [-]
How about you go **** yourself, you intolerant piece of **** . People are allowed to have their own opinions without having douchebags like you criticize them.
User avatar #702 to #698 - edreva (05/03/2012) [-]
GTFO thumbwhore.
User avatar #711 to #702 - SgtObvious (05/03/2012) [-]
How am I a thumbwhore?
User avatar #729 to #711 - edreva (05/03/2012) [-]
"How about you go **** yourself, you intolerant piece of **** . People are allowed to have their own opinions without having douchebags like you criticize them. "
Either you want thumbs up or you are a bad educated pipsquid.
User avatar #743 to #729 - SgtObvious (05/03/2012) [-]
"Bad educated?" I don't think I'm the one that's "bad educated" here. And I am simply stating the fact that you are acting like a condescending asshole. I think many people, including athiests, would agree, seeing the reaction to your posts.
#771 to #743 - edreva (05/03/2012) [-]
Exactly in wich part am I intolerant? So according to you to state a truth is to be condescending? Then all my teachers have been condescending all the time with me. Maybe everyone with knowledge is condescending now? Next time you break your leg and you go to medic you should insult him and punch him in the face for being condescending with you.
User avatar #853 to #771 - SgtObvious (05/03/2012) [-]
You're being condescending because you're rejecting mine and many other people's beliefs just because you don't agree with them. And to my knowledge, teachers aren't allowed to say that a certain religion isn't real.
User avatar #872 to #853 - edreva (05/03/2012) [-]
I don't agree with you because they brainwashed you all. I bet that you are american.
Let me explain you in other way:

Guess that I have 2 aples, one is red and one is green. I have one aple in each hand. If I show you that the red aple is in my right hand, can you guess what will I have in the other hand? It's easy. You can pray, you can wish to me to have another red aple in my other hand, because you love red aples, or your mother is dying and needs 2 aples, whatever, but the common sense tells you that I have a green aple in my left hand. And guess what? so it is. Deal with it.

Stop praying and start studying.


User avatar #1008 to #872 - SgtObvious (05/04/2012) [-]
"aple" lmao

And there's no 100% proof that God isn't real, and there's no 100% proof that the Universe was created randomly during the Big Bang.

And I'm not arguing about my beliefs, I'm arguing about you insulting me for having them.
User avatar #1533 to #1008 - edreva (05/04/2012) [-]
Well, I can't do nothing if your beliefs are lies. Sorry, I can't help with your ignorance.
#741 to #729 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
Or he wanted you to **** yourself, because you're an intolerant piece of **** ?
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#719 to #702 - anon (05/03/2012) [-]
You call him a thumbwhore for stating the fact that you are an selfrighteous douchebag?
And yet you wonder why noone takes you seriously?

I have nothing against atheists. But I have something against condescending pieces of ***** like you.
#1085 - sabbykat (05/04/2012) [-]
Christian people scare me. They seem so..ignorant I guess is the term i'm looking for.
#1094 to #1085 - anon (05/04/2012) [-]
Also you've posted a billion times already. No one cares that your atheist. You aren't special. Go outside or something.

Btw I'm atheist
User avatar #1112 to #1094 - sabbykat (05/04/2012) [-]
Did I ever once mention in the above comment that I am atheist? I don't recall..enlighten me.
#1099 to #1085 - LewdFlapjack (05/04/2012) [-]
You lump all Christians into one group, then call them ignorant. I thought Christians were supposed to be the intolerant ones, lol.

Not a Christianfag btw, i'm agnostic.
User avatar #1122 to #1099 - sabbykat (05/04/2012) [-]
Well, I think you just did the same thing there buddy. 'Christianfag' aren't you calling every single Christian a fag?

And i'm just saying the religion itself is ignorant. I mean really, a random guy..lets just call him Jesus for ***** and giggles comes and brings peace and love to everyone, feeds them endless fish and wine, dies, then comes back 3 days later. And that's just one small part of the faith.

I am not atheist or christian. I believe in what feels good to me, and what makes me happy as a person. If anyone has a problem with that **** off.
#1250 to #1122 - LewdFlapjack (05/04/2012) [-]
Lol. never heard of the terms moralfag, amerifag, britfag, *any group*fag? Not actually calling them fags. For instance, im an agnostifag. Way to pick a single word out of context.
#111 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
atheism is just ingorant. Being agnostic is where its at
#119 to #111 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
**tritusneptune rolled a random image posted in comment #78 at Neil Degrasse Tyson on the Mayans ** Dude, you do realize that YOU are an atheist.
#127 to #119 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
atheists and agnostics have different views.
#146 to #127 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
**tritusneptune rolled a random image posted in comment #4217851 at FJ Pony Thread ** OK
Prefix "a" = not
"theist" = one who believes in a god or gods
Therefore, atheist= Someone who isn't a Theist.

If I ask you if you are a Theist. You will say no. (At least I'm assuming that you will)
If you say no, then you are not a Theist. That would make you an atheist.

You either believe in god, or you don't. There is no middle ground. Now you may have the misconception that an atheist is some who says that they KNOW that god doesn't exist. This is certainly not the case. Most atheists say "I haven't seen any evidence, so there's no reason to believe in God"



#151 to #146 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
okay im a theist but i don't believe in any specific religion at all
#175 to #151 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
Then that makes you a deist. (AKA one who believes in a god but not a personal one)

User avatar #128 to #111 - shamefulhumor (05/03/2012) [-]
Agnosticism Is a cop out, of coarse there is no evidence of absence, but there is a huge absence of evidence for god in any religion today. As far as any faith/deity any ancient nomads have come up with thus far are ridiculous. We can eliminate the idea Abrahamic religions to a quantum refutal, everything in the bible is either false or historically traceable to regional superstition.

Now, not knowing if there is not something larger then us that may have a hand in things is much more probable whilst still farfetched. But you are not agnostic in that case.
You are ignostic or a theological non-cognesent.
#145 to #128 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
all im saying is that nothing creating something is not possible. I don't believe in any specific religion, nor do i find them accurate at in the way they perceive that the world was created. For all i know the big bang could have possibly happened. But that swirling dust cloud didn't just come out of no where.
User avatar #169 to #145 - shamefulhumor (05/03/2012) [-]
Well there are much better theories about the origins of our universe then "Someone had to do it" The quark and proton subsequence is a good one.
However it is a drastic undersell to the enigmatic nature of reality to say someone had to do it, or else it could not happen.
#164 to #145 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
OK now you have TWO misconceptions.
1. You think that Being an atheist means that you believe in the big bang theory. It certainly does not.
2. The big bang didn't start from a "swirling cloud" (The only other person I've heard say that was Kent Hovind and look where he ended up.)

The big bang has evidence(I'll be happy to discuss the evidence if you want me to)
We don't know everything about the origins of the big bang but we know it happened. At least Scientists are honest and say "It's unknown"
#180 to #164 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
i know atheists done indefinitely believe in the big bang theory, i was using it as example.
#189 to #180 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
OK, but you do realize that the Big bang theory(I will be referring to it as BBT from this point on) has PLENTY of evidence?
#200 to #189 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
i think i already acknowledged that fact.
#215 to #200 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
Fair enough, so what is your status on the big bang theory.
#234 to #215 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
You probably wont like my response and also this will be my last but, As all theories do it has many facts to support it and could quite possibly be true. But you can't deny the fact that its just a "theory" and it does leave room for question. There are multiple theories up for debate on how the universe was created. I don't believe in any one theory but i don't deny any of them either. I leave them up for others to debate while i sit back and watch. And if you haven't noticed already by previous posts im a very uncertain person meaning i don't know what to believe and i am on the fence about many things.
#267 to #234 - tritusneptune (05/03/2012) [-]
It's just a theory. Well you know I have a friend who denies gravity because after all it's just a theory(AKA gravitational theory), he also didn't believe in germs(AKA germ theory. You obviously don't know what a scientific theory is. The big bang theory is the only "scientific" theory on how the universe began. BTW if you are unsure on whether or not to believe something. That means you don't believe it. I know you said that this was your last response but can you at least look at what a theory in science actually is.
#206 to #111 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
Don't have all day to argue, debate, or what ever you want to call this thread but im out.
Don't have all day to argue, debate, or what ever you want to call this thread but im out.
#161 to #138 - blockheadboy (05/03/2012) [-]
how is that even a valid response? That could go both ways. You're unsure so you believe.
User avatar #516 to #161 - hackapelite (05/03/2012) [-]
ergo agnostic theist
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